Chao Lao Beach Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Q : Which message of the four people summoned by the TCSD was deemed unlawful?Basically, they talked about the possibility of a coup, which is groundless and is clearly against the Computer Crime Act. Q : What about "sharing" such a message?There are two kinds of sharing. If you share in a way to support the original message, this is wrong. But if you comment against the message, this is okay. Are little smiley faces illegal as well? This is so silly it is now funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chao Lao Beach Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 One should consider the fact that ThaiVisa is possibly one of the most famous forums about Thailand on the web. One might also think about how simply "liking" a page may bring scrutiny. But it is in English, have you seen the standard of ng-rish in Thailand Well they could use Google translate maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 The door to the future just opened up a crack to show you the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2169 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 So I guess anyone who "likes" Thaksin's facebook page should be considered supporting an international criminal fugitive, huh?+1, lets bring them all to jail,...555555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2169 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 what i dont understand is if you press the like button you life will change because you are making thailand look bad, so what becomes of the media that brings the thai badness to the public eye?What about the Thai people who make Thailand bad in the first place???????? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeOboe57 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 l feel the overwhelming urge to tell this guy right into his face to depart and intercourse himself. However I can restrain myself. Sent from my GT-N5100 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2169 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Only in Thailand. A sign of things to come.not only in Thailand, there are more countries where you will be arrested for "liking" and sharing political motivated posts. Face book, emails and for example twitter are great ways for governments to create a profile which later can and will be used against you. Freedom of speech does not exist! Welcome to dedactorship Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtoad Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 The DL is getting ready to return, and the crackdown on dissension will increase. All hail The DL, as he returns to Thailand on top of a Rice Mountain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2169 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 A democratic country, WOW! Do not voice your opinion on something that is classed as freedom of speech in a normal democracy. That your new thainess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Songhua Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 so Im pushed couple "Like" buttons, just waiting for now, what might be happendBOO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 l feel the overwhelming urge to tell this guy right into his face to depart and intercourse himself. However I can restrain myself. Sent from my GT-N5100 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Probably for the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2169 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW 'Liking' political rumours is a crime Pisit Police Maj Gen Pisit Pao-in, commander of the Technology Crime Suppression Division, defends his agency against criticism over its threat to take legal action against Facebook users who "like" certain messages of a political nature. He talks to The Sunday Nations Pakorn Puengnetr in an exclusive interview. Q : Are asking if clicking "like" is now against the law. It will be if you 'like' a message deemed damaging to national security. If you press 'like', it means you are accepting that message, which is tantamount to supporting it. By doing so, you help increase the credibility of the message and hence you should also be held responsible. Q : Is this rule the same in other countries? This has nothing to do with foreign countries, because they have different laws. We are taking preventive measures in dealing with this matter. Others may use the principle of law but we use the principle of political science. Q : Do you think the police have done anything wrong in this? I don't know. But believe me, I can take legal action against you. The Penal Code and the Computer Crime Act can be applied in this matter. Q : Which message of the four people summoned by the TCSD was deemed unlawful? Basically, they talked about the possibility of a coup, which is groundless and is clearly against the Computer Crime Act. The TCSD action is just meant to have a psychological impact. We don't want these four persons to be jailed. We just questioned them and it's okay for them to say they didn't mean to create panic. After this action, people are now more careful [about their Facebook messages]. I am mainly aiming at social peace. So you mean from now on, people can't click 'like'? I'm not prohibiting from pressing 'like'. But if you 'like' this kind of message, you will be arrested. Q : What about "sharing" such a message? There are two kinds of sharing. If you share in a way to support the original message, this is wrong. But if you comment against the message, this is okay. Q : Will this rule be applied to all cases? We will just focus on cases of political violence. If you don't prevent it, bad news will be covered by foreign media and confidence [in Thailand] will be affected. Q : There has been a campaign that "liking is not a crime". It's okay for people to "like" a Facebook page. But they can't 'like' rumours anymore. I think I have achieved my goal. Q : Is the TCSD action intended as a threat? No. We work without any bias about the political colours. Two of those summoned were red shirts, another is a white mask. [The last one is Thai PBS editor Sermsuk Kasiti pradit.] Q : How did the TCSD go about this case? I have a team here [at TCSD] and at the Royal Thai Police HQ. Our team searched the keyword "coup" and we found posts by these four persons. It was not difficult. We didn't have a particular watchlist. Q : Do you think police will be criticised for this action? It's okay. I just do my work and I have achieved my goal. What the law says The Criminal Code and Computer Crime Act can be enforced against people who "like" and "share" Facebook messages deemed unlawful by police, according to the Technology Crime Suppression Division commander. Section 59 of the Criminal Code, involving Criminal Liability, states that "A person shall be criminally liable only when such person commits an act intentionally. To commit an act intentionally is to do an act consciously and at the same time the doer desired or could have foreseen the effect of such doing." Section 83, about Principals and Supporters, states that, "In case of an offence accrued by commission of two persons or more, such accomplices deemed to be principals shall be punished as provided by the law for such offence." Under Section 14 of the Computer Crime Act, any person involved in dissemination or forwarding of computer data already known to be against this law shall be subject to imprisonment for not more than five years or a fine of up to Bt100,000, or both. -- The Nation 2013-08-11 That's why Burma is going up and Thailand going down, wait and see in a few years, Junta will rock Thailand and a full on democratic government on Burma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mangkhut Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 There should be a dislike button for this guy. he would have got massive response..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim walker Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 (edited) If Major General Commander says hitting the like button is a crime then it must be a crime especially if it’s a political rumour that we like and he doesn’t. Its ok for billions of Baht to be stolen through corruption but if it’s stated on facebook then we can’t like what a shame. Edited August 11, 2013 by metisdead Font 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bigbamboo Posted August 11, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted August 11, 2013 (edited) So we now have 'lese majeste' and 'lese PTP'. Edited August 11, 2013 by bigbamboo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ppmacready Posted August 11, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted August 11, 2013 He's lost the plot ..... completely. Sorry don't you get it? His Thai. He believes what his saying is perfectly credible and acceptable. T.I.T 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirk0233 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 I believe the comments by Pisit Pao-in are a danger to national security. His mindset as ultimate judge of what is permissible for Thai society to like is so grandiose, paternal, dangerous and fascist I believe he should be checked for possible bipolar disorder and thought adjustment for the benefit of all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudRight Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 I would post something negative about this so called general but he would probably have me incarcerated for libel. Use your worst imagination. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bigbamboo Posted August 11, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted August 11, 2013 There should be a dislike button for this guy. he would have got massive response..... Hey ADMIN, how about adding a dislike button to the format ????? it would save a lot of crazy replies and a straight forward answer to a post, ANYONE else in favour. ?????? Good idea. You can't be arrested for 'Disliking'...... yet. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gudtymchuk Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Somebody needs to tell Tony Blair and Kofi Annan to stay away from the "like" button on their Facebook.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingtongfarang Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 If they blocked facebook, youtube, twitter and such it just would,nt surprise me, Youtube was blocked in thailand for how many years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sayonarax Posted August 11, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted August 11, 2013 political science? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Now that I'm a criminal, since I sometimes use my 'like'-button on TV, does that mean i can get residency/citizenship or a Thai-Elite-Card more-easily ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Neilly Posted August 11, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted August 11, 2013 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SOTIRIOS Posted August 11, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted August 11, 2013 .....but corruption....lying...cheating....stealing....silencing opposition....murder....fleeing prosecution.....are okay ???? (.....oh........I get it now.....thanks....I had it backwards.....) 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorG Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 I am so happy that I no longer live there. I can "like" whatever I want. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 political science? Yep. I studied political science for three years at uni and I have no idea what he is on about. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post petedk Posted August 11, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted August 11, 2013 He's lost the plot ..... completely. I was going to click "Like" on this comment but I am afraid the special operations group will come bursting through my windows and doors. Are thoughts still permitted? Don't worry... you can click "like" because the post doesn't contain the word "coup". Oh shit... now they'll find this post. DON'T click "like" or they'll come and question you. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifeincnx Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Only in Thailand. A sign of things to come. not only in Thailand, there are more countries where you will be arrested for "liking" and sharing political motivated posts. Face book, emails and for example twitter are great ways for governments to create a profile which later can and will be used against you. Freedom of speech does not exist! OK, name these countries. You'll be greeted by a common denominator - they do not have freedom of speech (or the press), freedom of (or from) religion and not one is a western nation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthurboy Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 .....but corruption....lying...cheating....stealing....silencing opposition....murder....fleeing prosecution.....are okay ???? (.....oh........I get it now.....thanks....I had it backwards.....) And that's the rub. Top comment, SOTIRIOS. sent from my banana phone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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