Helping a foreigner apply for a retirement visa.

[kirstymelb101]

A German man offered me 10,000 bht to assist him in obtaining his retirement Visa, if there is such a thing.

He is dating one of my distant Aunts, who introduced us both. And since I'm a good samaritan I agreed to help.

Well, it's the least I can do. I can speak both Thai/English fluently.

He has been in the country three weeks and is absolutely clueless on how to go about it.

Any relevant information you can provide is much appreciated.

Thanks Regards. Kirsty x0x0x0...

[Crossy]

First off what type of visa is he in Thailand on now?

Can he meet the financial requirements of 800,000 Baht in a local bank (which must be seasoned for 2 months) or a pension income of 65,000 Baht per month? (use of a combination of the two is possible if insufficient pension and doesn't require the cash to be seasoned)

[merijn]

Where do i start.

What kind of visa or VOA does he has now ?

The information below is correct for Phuket immigration but it can be a little bit different at other immigration offices.

If he is on a VOA 15/30 then he has to upgrade to an NON-IM visa which can be done at the immigration office. ( Cost 2000 Baht with TM87 form )

If he is on a tourist visa TR60 then he has to change to an NON-IM visa which can be done at the immigration office. ( Cost 2000 Baht with TM86 form )

This will give him 90 days and he has to come back to immigration after 60 days.

After 60 days he can extend this for one year ( Cost 1900 Baht with TM7 form.)

financial requirements are:

800 ,000 Baht in Thai bank account in his name for 60 days. ( Updated bank book with bank certificate )

OR declaration of income of more then 65.000 Baht a month from embassy or consul.

OR combination of those 2.

Good luck.

[ubonjoe]

There is a extension of stay of stay based upon retirement but not a retirement visa.

What type of entry does he now have? IE: from a tourist or non immigrant visa or a 30 day entry with no visa.

First step will be to meet the financial requirements of 800k baht in a Thai bank or proof of income of 65k baht proven by a income letter from his embassy. Or if income is less than 65k a combination of money in bank and total annual income to reach the 800k amount.

He will need a non immigrant visa entry that he can then extend if he does not have one already. This can obtained at any nearby Thai embassy or consulate. Or by doing a two step process to get it at immigration. First step is to apply for the nonimmigrant visa entry by showing financial proof at immigration.

Next step is the same as if he already had a visa entry or went out of the country which is apply for his extension during the last 30 days of his visa entry showing his financial proof. At this time money in bank must of been there for 60 days.

[OJAS]

And, if he's already been here for 3 weeks but his passport was only stamped on arrival for 30 days, he really needs to get his skates on (or you do on his behalf)!

[nosatisfaction]

First off what type of visa is he in Thailand on now?

Can he meet the financial requirements of 800,000 Baht in a local bank (which must be seasoned for 2 months) or a pension income of 65,000 Baht per month? (use of a combination of the two is possible if insufficient pension and doesn't require the cash to be seasoned)

everything I read so far is correct, please don't take offence i'm only joking as usual, life otherwise would be so dull, for 10,000thb i'd love to play good samaritan too.

555555555

[daveology]

keep the 10,000 and ring an agency and let them sort it

[oneday]

Where do i start.

What kind of visa or VOA does he has now ?

The information below is correct for Phuket immigration but it can be a little bit different at other immigration offices.

If he is on a VOA 15/30 then he has to upgrade to an NON-IM visa which can be done at the immigration office. ( Cost 2000 Baht with TM87 form )

If he is on a tourist visa TR60 then he has to change to an NON-IM visa which can be done at the immigration office. ( Cost 2000 Baht with TM86 form )

This will give him 90 days and he has to come back to immigration after 60 days.

After 60 days he can extend this for one year ( Cost 1900 Baht with TM7 form.)

financial requirements are:

800 ,000 Baht in Thai bank account in his name for 60 days. ( Updated bank book with bank certificate )

OR declaration of income of more then 65.000 Baht a month from embassy or consul.

OR combination of those 2.

Good luck.

One of the best answers I have seen on this question. Good job.

[ubonjoe]

I probably should not say anything but I find errors in his post.

I he is not on a VOA because he does not qualify for one. He might be on a visa exempt entry.

Also he does not have enough time to do a conversion to a non immigrant visa if he is on an visa exempt entry.

What is a TR60?

[Suradit69]

Where do i start.

What kind of visa or VOA does he has now ?

The information below is correct for Phuket immigration but it can be a little bit different at other immigration offices.

If he is on a VOA 15/30 then he has to upgrade to an NON-IM visa which can be done at the immigration office. ( Cost 2000 Baht with TM87 form )

If he is on a tourist visa TR60 then he has to change to an NON-IM visa which can be done at the immigration office. ( Cost 2000 Baht with TM86 form )

This will give him 90 days and he has to come back to immigration after 60 days.

After 60 days he can extend this for one year ( Cost 1900 Baht with TM7 form.)

financial requirements are:

800 ,000 Baht in Thai bank account in his name for 60 days. ( Updated bank book with bank certificate )

OR declaration of income of more then 65.000 Baht a month from embassy or consul.

OR combination of those 2.

Good luck.

One of the best answers I have seen on this question. Good job.

I probably should not say anything but I find errors in his post. I he is not on a VOA because he does not qualify for one. He might be on a visa exempt entry. Also he does not have enough time to do a conversion to a non immigrant visa if he is on an visa exempt entry. What is a TR60?

"One of the best answers I have seen on this question. Good job."

"I probably should not say anything but I find errors in his post."

Some of these threads are as amusing as they are informative. Maybe more amusing than.

[merijn]

I probably should not say anything but I find errors in his post. I he is not on a VOA because he does not qualify for one. He might be on a visa exempt entry. Also he does not have enough time to do a conversion to a non immigrant visa if he is on an visa exempt entry. What is a TR60?

ubonjoe, I think you know what a TR60 is as you answered many questions about this in the past.

[ubonjoe]

I probably should not say anything but I find errors in his post. I he is not on a VOA because he does not qualify for one. He might be on a visa exempt entry. Also he does not have enough time to do a conversion to a non immigrant visa if he is on an visa exempt entry. What is a TR60?

 

ubonjoe, I think you know what a TR60 is as you answered many questions about this in the past.

But how many people do.

[merijn]

I probably should not say anything but I find errors in his post. I he is not on a VOA because he does not qualify for one. He might be on a visa exempt entry. Also he does not have enough time to do a conversion to a non immigrant visa if he is on an visa exempt entry. What is a TR60?

ubonjoe, I think you know what a TR60 is as you answered many questions about this in the past.

But how many people do.

That's way i put Tourist Visa before the TR60 in my post.

Move alone nothing to see.

[wayned]

Nice job guys! It seems that once again personal conflicts and "wars on words" have overshadowed the need for a logical answer. Since the OP has not responded, either you have confused or pi**ed her of so much that she has written off the 10000 baht! Posts 2 and 3 are spot on, after that it kinda gets out of hand! I assume that TR60 is a new way of identifying a 60 day tourist visa, ( or is it the latest model of the TR^ Sports Car).

[sirchai]

It would have been much easier for this German man having obtained a retirement visa at a Thai consulate for example in Stuttgart.

He'll need a document showing his income, or pension of at least 65,000 baht. Or 800,000 baht on a Thai bank account in his name. This on the other hand has to be confirmed by the German embassy. ( Please see website)

All in all an easy exercise Please see attached word office document..-

ThailandUpdateDoc26.doc

[ubonjoe]

Nice job guys!  It seems that once again personal conflicts and "wars on words" have overshadowed the need for a logical answer.  Since the OP has not responded, either you have confused or pi**ed her of so much that she has written off the 10000 baht!  Posts 2 and 3 are spot on, after that it kinda gets out  of hand!  I assume that TR60 is a new way of identifying a 60 day tourist visa, ( or is it the latest model of the TR^ Sports Car).

My post was primarily to point out calling a visa exempt entry a VOA (visa on arrival) which of course it is not.

I often wonder how many people have got into the line for a VOA at the airport only to be told they didn't need one.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

It also would have helped if the OP would have indicated what Immigration office he (his friend) will be applying at. Some offices, particularly at places like Pattaya and Phuket, seem to have their own peculiar requirements in certain details that can be a bit different from the general rules applied elsewhere, including the main Immigration office in Bangkok.

[NancyL]

Seriously, the OP should hire a visa agency to sort this. The ones in CM charge less than 10,000 baht to obtain a retirement visa/extension for someone who entered 30 day exempt. The OP won't have to figure out how to do this complex procedure and should be able to pocket a few thousand baht for being a good samaritan.

[OJAS]

Nice job guys! It seems that once again personal conflicts and "wars on words" have overshadowed the need for a logical answer. Since the OP has not responded, either you have confused or pi**ed her of so much that she has written off the 10000 baht! Posts 2 and 3 are spot on, after that it kinda gets out of hand! I assume that TR60 is a new way of identifying a 60 day tourist visa, ( or is it the latest model of the TR^ Sports Car).

So the serious point I was striving to make in my post @ #5 is "kinda out of hand", then is it?