Dozens hurt as Thai airliner hits turbulence

[Tywais]

Hope they check the wings for cracking, weren't they already doing that straight out of the factory.

If you get the facts, there was no wing crack issue with A380s.

Really?

Wing cracks A380

Reuters A380 Wing cracks

Wing cracks ground A380

Lots more where those links came from.

[Lando]

Flying btw singapore and bkk always gets scary at some point. There are permanent rough patches in the skies.

Probably not permanent, but for sure very frequent.

For that reason I was always trying my best to fly BKK-SIN or BKK-KUL in the morning, less storms around and less bumps.

Also scary most of the times when flying over Yangoon on the way from/to BKK, a very stormy area as well.

[kannot]

I get sick to death of the mobile phone tablet no seat belt must get my bag immediately the plane might go without me brigade that now invade every flight I go on.

Forever getting out of their seats the second the wheels touch the ground etc etc. I hope the ones with the injuries were all these as it bloody well serves em right............<deleted>!!

[Schuimpge]

malaysia airlines is also using one of its a380 for the kl to hong kong route showing that this is a very lucrative sector.

Just to get it over with...

THAI is using the HKG rout with the A380 as a training for new planes and new crews.

The A380 will eventually be switched to London, frankfurt, Paris and the likes....

They did that with all A380 planes so far...

[Moruya]

Thank God it wasn't Etihad - there'd have been a lot more injured, because they fly THROUGH storms and won't use extra fuel to fly over them.

 

Difficult flying over something when you are on final approach.

Difficult flying over cumulus nimbus when they extend way beyond your range. You see the water droplets on your weather radar and You fly around the cells.

Nonsense post.

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[lee b]

I hate it on planes when this happens

[transam]

There's not one of you that cannot say it doesn't happen. By that l mean your plane is still in the air, steward checks seat belts, goes and buckles up herself and THEN, tossers unbuckle, fool around, phone someone in Alaska they don't know, just to look important and get in front of folk in the seats in front to embark. You know who you are..............

[Gummigalgen]

Okay! Years ago I wrote Thai Airways a letter. In business class cabin crew did not pay attention at all at safety measures. People worked with their laptop while landing, Tables out......you name it. When cabin crew checks that everyone is buckled up during turbulence or 30 minutes prior to landing.......but it is not happening. The daily routine many Asian airlines I fly with they neglect it. Bit turbulence, no problem people walk step up during taxi-ing to grab their bags, cell.phone calls.......

I once had an emergency stop while taxi-ing. Imagine a car doing 50 km/h and stops with keramic brakes. You never forget it.......

Crew is there for safety, passengers seem to get more stupid day by day. Crew is the teacher. Buckle up, any turbulence sign to be taken seriously, and no exception to the rules (like the baby on a lap without a special belt; Thank You Thai Airways, here is my Orchid Card back.....)

[Pattaya28]

Why weren't the injured passengers seat-belted ??

Why did the Thai Airways official not wish to be named ?? Was he being economical with the truth ?? Did this person actually exist ??

[Noistar]

Hope they check the wings for cracking, weren't they already doing that straight out of the factory.

If you get the facts, there was no wing crack issue with A380s.

Really?

Wing cracks A380

Reuters A380 Wing cracks

Wing cracks ground A380

Lots more where those links came from.

Doesn't alter the facts - no A380s have been grounded due to the wing rib bracket cracks and as far as I'm aware, not for any other reason.

Keep the links coming - they're wrong

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2084242/Airbus-A380-Worlds-biggest-planes-sky-worthy-say-engineers.html

Look at the headline, then read the article - not the same at all

[transam]

Hope they check the wings for cracking, weren't they already doing that straight out of the factory.

If you get the facts, there was no wing crack issue with A380s.

Really?

Wing cracks A380

Reuters A380 Wing cracks

Wing cracks ground A380

Lots more where those links came from.

Doesn't alter the facts - no A380s have been grounded due to the wing rib bracket cracks and as far as I'm aware, not for any other reason.

Keep the links coming - they're wrong

Hey, I saw you at check in...........................................

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[Gummigalgen]

Wishing a quick recovery to the crew.

As for the passengers, I bet those injured did not fasten their seat belts. This is beyond me. I don't feel sorry for them.

That is an assumption I can not agree with, quite often people are hurt by things flying around the cabin, things falling out of overhead lockers, loose articles in the cabin and persons not strapped in.

Personally I would like to see electric locking on overhead lockers, so after the FA's do their final checks the overhead lockers can not be opened until the plane is on the stand and it is safe to do so.

True. KLM had a very serious turbulence above Chicago in the early 90's. The steward + trolley went through the sealing cover and came back few meters backwards. It hurted many passengers. But at least they were buckled up. The A380 is like the first cars having ABS. One thinks it is untouchable. Passengers think nothing can happen.

[IMA_FARANG]

i wear my seatbelt for the full flight and make sure my family dos as well since one one flight we hit a pocket of turbulence and i found myself a good 30-40 cm airborne before my seat came back up at me. once was enough.

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Once when I was much younger I was in on a flight from San Francisco to Boston the aircraft hit some Clear Air Turbulence just after we had just flown past the Rocky Mountains. Pilot told us later the plane had dropped about 1000 feet.

A meal was being served and some unlucky passengers ended up wearing their uneaten food as a decoration.

After that incident I ALWAYS keep my seal belt fastened on a plane except when I go to the toilet.

Even though I wasn't hurt and luckily my meal was already taken away, as you say one lesson was enough for me also.

[trainman34014]

Well; one thing the injured can be thankful for is that they would have been treated by trained Paramedics and transported in proper Ambulances with life saving equipment. Had the flight been arriving at BKK nothing would have turned up for over half an hour and then blokes in T shirts and flip flops would have chucked them in the back of clapped out pick-up trucks !

[Schuimpge]

Hope they check the wings for cracking, weren't they already doing that straight out of the factory.

If you get the facts, there was no wing crack issue with A380s.

Really?

Wing cracks A380

Reuters A380 Wing cracks

Wing cracks ground A380

Lots more where those links came from.

Gues you love flying with smoking batteries better eeeh... And if you don't get my drift...that's the 787 Dreamliner for mere mortals...lol

[transam]

These airlines should have their staff taught by the Brits............

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=IR9Zdgv2Kag..............................

[joboss]

Where were the seatbelts?

I can always find mine. It is attached to the seat.

[Rionoir]

About 6-7 times per year i really role the dice and fly bkk-hk with orient thai one to go, looking around i always have the feeling i,m the only passenger aware of their safety record, the planes really are old rust buckets.

They wouldn't be allowed to fly internationally if they were that bad... it's the ones that aren't allowed to fly outside of Thailand that you should be concerned about.

[peecee]

Flying btw singapore and bkk always gets scary at some point. There are permanent rough patches in the skies.

Singapore's a bit off track when heading to HK; rough patch of sky must be where those big kites do a hand-brake turn & head northeast!

[Tywais]

no A380s have been grounded due to the wing rib bracket cracks and as far as I'm aware, not for any other reason.

Don't know why you keep denying it. The below from a site dedicated to aviation news and not a rag.

Qantas grounds A380 after finding 36 cracks on wings

A Qantas Airways Airbus A380 has been grounded after 36 cracks were found on its wings on 5 February.

The aircraft, which bears the registration VH-OQF, had its airframe built in 2010 and has clocked 399 flight cycles totalling 2,454 flight hours, according to Flightglobal's ACAS database.

The aircraft was first grounded when Airbus requested a second phase of precautionary checks on its wings after it went through severe turbulence in January, said Qantas. Airbus made the request after reviewing data of the turbulent flight.

"During these inspections, minor cracking was found on some wing rib brackets. This cracking is not related to the turbulence, or specific to Qantas, but is traced back to a manufacturing issue in this specific wing area of the aircraft," said a Qantas spokesman.

He added that the cracks found are different from the "type two" cracking recently found on other A380s, which are now the subject of a European airworthiness directive.

Flightglobal

[ableguy]

About 6-7 times per year i really role the dice and fly bkk-hk with orient thai one to go, looking around i always have the feeling i,m the only passenger aware of their safety record, the planes really are old rust buckets.

They wouldn't be allowed to fly internationally if they were that bad... it's the ones that aren't allowed to fly outside of Thailand that you should be concerned about.

i f you feel like this and you have more than half a brain why do you fly ????????? walkj man its the only way for you , plus nit noy swimming,

[annabel]

This airbus incident, there were 500 on board so these must be the Thais that cancelled the Europe trips and diverted to Asian destinations. UNLESS it was taking all those High end tourists back to China. Maybe some were early getting their overhead luggage down as the trend now is to start to get your bags on decent.

Nothing new there ,,,, It has always been the trend with the Chinese as well as the Indians from India and well most Asian / Arabic countries for that matter... and I am going back at least 30 years ....!!

[annabel]

It's one thing if people weren't strapped in because it was time to land.

But Asian pilots are infamous for leaving the "Fasten Seat Belt" sign on the whole trip. I've had several cross-Pacific flights lasting 12-14 hours where the pilot never turned the seat belt sign off. They still (obviously) let everyone use the heads, but face was protected for anything that happened because they could tell the press "The seatbelt sign was on".

BKK to HK seems short enough for no pit stops.

The article needs to be more specific about "shortly before landing". That could mean 20 minutes after takeoff, or 5' off the runway on final.

Sorry but I think you are wrong!! Whether the pilot has the Seat Belt sign on or not during the whole flight is totally irrelevant to me .. as a frequent flyer for over 40 years I have learnt to KEEP MY SEAT BELT ON at all times ... I have had many bad and scary experiences with unpredictable turbulence and was very happy to have that seat belt on.... especially on 12 hour flights while I was asleep and would not have been able to react in time and yes... would have been injured ...

[annabel]

i wear my seatbelt for the full flight and make sure my family dos as well since one one flight we hit a pocket of turbulence and i found myself a good 30-40 cm airborne before my seat came back up at me. once was enough.

being airborne yourself was not anough, seat had to do the same?????????

Stupid comment to say the least !!

[joboss]

Wishing a quick recovery to the crew.

As for the passengers, I bet those injured did not fasten their seat belts. This is beyond me. I don't feel sorry for them.

That is an assumption I can not agree with, quite often people are hurt by things flying around the cabin, things falling out of overhead lockers, loose articles in the cabin and persons not strapped in.

Personally I would like to see electric locking on overhead lockers, so after the FA's do their final checks the overhead lockers can not be opened until the plane is on the stand and it is safe to do so.

Great idea, entirely possible, please present your idea to the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO)

[geejayess]

This airbus incident, there were 500 on board so these must be the Thais that cancelled the Europe trips and diverted to Asian destinations. UNLESS it was taking all those High end tourists back to China. Maybe some were early getting their overhead luggage down as the trend now is to start to get your bags on decent.

Why post the above?

Ridiculous nonsense!

Are you bored?

Are you bored?

[PMZ]

It's one thing if people weren't strapped in because it was time to land.

But Asian pilots are infamous for leaving the "Fasten Seat Belt" sign on the whole trip. I've had several cross-Pacific flights lasting 12-14 hours where the pilot never turned the seat belt sign off. They still (obviously) let everyone use the heads, but face was protected for anything that happened because they could tell the press "The seatbelt sign was on".

BKK to HK seems short enough for no pit stops.

The article needs to be more specific about "shortly before landing". That could mean 20 minutes after takeoff, or 5' off the runway on final.

Seat belts should be worn throughout the flight, exactly for this reason. Air pockets are virtually impossible to see through the avaiable instruments, so it could happen at any time on any flight on any route. Nothing to do with 'Asian pilots infamopus for....' Utter rubbish.

[Sayonarax]

the morale of the story is.. wear your damn seat belts.

[GrantSmith]

This airbus incident, there were 500 on board so these must be the Thais that cancelled the Europe trips and diverted to Asian destinations. UNLESS it was taking all those High end tourists back to China. Maybe some were early getting their overhead luggage down as the trend now is to start to get your bags on decent.

Before you tear into others again about their spelling and grammar...

I would make sure my own seatbelt was fastened before helping others with their seatbelts, especially when the aircraft enters a rapid descent...

[geriatrickid]

The Thai way:

"The injured were taken to a Hong Kong hospital, while the plane was flown back to Bangkok for damage investigation."

should be a damage already....good luck to the flight crew on the way!!

Normal procedure to fly the plane back once the local inspection is done. No pax on board. it's termed ferrying.