TAT Phuket office making tour counter licence extension more difficult

[keestha]

Posting this because I know there are people in here who have a tour counter as a secondary or maybe even primary business.

Going about the umptieth extension of the TAT licence for the tour counter which is attached to my business, I was dismayed to find out they need a lot more documents now than they used to require. Exception to the rule that generally extending a licence is easy in Thailand. There is also new stuff like the name of the tour counter has to be displayed in Thai script in letters at least as big as in the foreign script (English, they still call it ). On previous occasions, I just walked into their office and could talk to them straight away, but now their waiting room was full of Thai colleagues coping with the same problem, and I had to wait way over one hour.

The TAT is doing such a wonderful job supplying reliable tourism statistics, and coming up with predictions which are often surprisingly accurate. Also their highly successful campaigns to attract even more quality tourists deserve all possible praise. So it is disappointing they are putting up bureaucratic hurdles about as high as Mount Everest.

[Somtamnication]

Take them a sign in Thai, asking them to please advertise their new red tape along with their other bullshit adverts around the world. Same size as the English version.

[NamKangMan]

You honestly didn't expect things to get easier here, did you? :)

Let me guess, the price also went up.

[Farma]

Look on the bright side...if your sign remains the same size the signage tax will reduce as the Thai script will be equal or larger than the foreign language.

[NamKangMan]

Look on the bright side...if your sign remains the same size the signage tax will reduce as the Thai script will be equal or larger than the foreign language.

"signage tax" :)

Will there be fake "Sign Police" coming around making inspections here in the future? :)

[Farma]

NKM when the real ones come around at least now you'll know how much to pay.

http://duensingkippen.com/download/Legal%20Signs%20Part%20II%20Is%20Thai%20Required.pdf

Under Section 7bis of the STA, the tax payable (subject to a minimum tax payable of Thai

baht two hundred) is calculated by the area of the sign multiplied by the applicable per area

rate. Pursuant to Ministerial Regulation 5 (1992) under the STA, the tax rate

per each five hundred square centimetres of sign used, is one of three following, currently reduced,

amounts:

1) Thai baht three;

2) Thai baht twenty; or

3) Thai baht forty;

And here is the key point for our purposes; the rates are applicable as follows:

(1) is applied, if the sign is in the Thai language only;

(2) is applied, if the sign is in the Thai language and any other non-Thai language and/or has any picture

and/or has anylogo is also in the sign;

(3) is applied, if any part or all of the Thai language in the sign is under/lower down the sign

than any non-Thai language in the sign

[NamKangMan]

NKM when the real ones come around at least now you'll know how much to pay.

http://duensingkippen.com/download/Legal%20Signs%20Part%20II%20Is%20Thai%20Required.pdf

Under Section 7bis of the STA, the tax payable (subject to a minimum tax payable of Thai

baht two hundred) is calculated by the area of the sign multiplied by the applicable per area

rate. Pursuant to Ministerial Regulation 5 (1992) under the STA, the tax rate

per each five hundred square centimetres of sign used, is one of three following, currently reduced,

amounts:

1) Thai baht three;

2) Thai baht twenty; or

3) Thai baht forty;

And here is the key point for our purposes; the rates are applicable as follows:

(1) is applied, if the sign is in the Thai language only;

(2) is applied, if the sign is in the Thai language and any other non-Thai language and/or has any picture

and/or has anylogo is also in the sign;

(3) is applied, if any part or all of the Thai language in the sign is under/lower down the sign

than any non-Thai language in the sign

I do not have a business here, so, no bother to me, but thanks for the info.

These are the import laws that must be adhered to here, whilst all the scams, rip offs and extortions, that Thai's control, continue.

[Jimi007]

NKM when the real ones come around at least now you'll know how much to pay.

http://duensingkippen.com/download/Legal%20Signs%20Part%20II%20Is%20Thai%20Required.pdf

Under Section 7bis of the STA, the tax payable (subject to a minimum tax payable of Thai

baht two hundred) is calculated by the area of the sign multiplied by the applicable per area

rate. Pursuant to Ministerial Regulation 5 (1992) under the STA, the tax rate

per each five hundred square centimetres of sign used, is one of three following, currently reduced,

amounts:

1) Thai baht three;

2) Thai baht twenty; or

3) Thai baht forty;

And here is the key point for our purposes; the rates are applicable as follows:

(1) is applied, if the sign is in the Thai language only;

(2) is applied, if the sign is in the Thai language and any other non-Thai language and/or has any picture

and/or has anylogo is also in the sign;

(3) is applied, if any part or all of the Thai language in the sign is under/lower down the sign

than any non-Thai language in the sign

I do not have a business here, so, no bother to me, but thanks for the info.

These are the import laws that must be adhered to here, whilst all the scams, rip offs and extortions, that Thai's control, continue.

Since you don't own a business and you rent your apartment or Condo in the Hi So area of Patong, what are you complaining about? You get your mail delivery on time, as do I now that we have a new delivery guy, so what rip off or "extortions" are you subjecting yourself to? I can't think of one that I subject myself to....

[NamKangMan]

NKM when the real ones come around at least now you'll know how much to pay.

http://duensingkippen.com/download/Legal%20Signs%20Part%20II%20Is%20Thai%20Required.pdf

Under Section 7bis of the STA, the tax payable (subject to a minimum tax payable of Thai

baht two hundred) is calculated by the area of the sign multiplied by the applicable per area

rate. Pursuant to Ministerial Regulation 5 (1992) under the STA, the tax rate

per each five hundred square centimetres of sign used, is one of three following, currently reduced,

amounts:

1) Thai baht three;

2) Thai baht twenty; or

3) Thai baht forty;

And here is the key point for our purposes; the rates are applicable as follows:

(1) is applied, if the sign is in the Thai language only;

(2) is applied, if the sign is in the Thai language and any other non-Thai language and/or has any picture

and/or has anylogo is also in the sign;

(3) is applied, if any part or all of the Thai language in the sign is under/lower down the sign

than any non-Thai language in the sign

I do not have a business here, so, no bother to me, but thanks for the info.

These are the import laws that must be adhered to here, whilst all the scams, rip offs and extortions, that Thai's control, continue.

Since you don't own a business and you rent your apartment or Condo in the Hi So area of Patong, what are you complaining about? You get your mail delivery on time, as do I now that we have a new delivery guy, so what rip off or "extortions" are you subjecting yourself to? I can't think of one that I subject myself to....

Unlike you, Jimi, it would appear I am a compassionate person. I feel for the tourists getting done over here.

Maybe Phuket will become so "hard core" in the future that only the expats can survive here.

[Jimi007]

Since you don't own a business and you rent your apartment or Condo in the Hi So area of Patong, what are you complaining about? You get your mail delivery on time, as do I now that we have a new delivery guy, so what rip off or "extortions" are you subjecting yourself to? I can't think of one that I subject myself to....

Unlike you, Jimi, it would appear I am a compassionate person. I feel for the tourists getting done over here.

Maybe Phuket will become so "hard core" in the future that only the expats can survive here.

LOL! Mister Compassion! More like Mister Whiner! Really? I wasn't an idiot the first time I came to Phuket. I rented a car from David car rental near the airport. That was 2005. I don't have a lot of compassion for clueless people!

[NamKangMan]

Since you don't own a business and you rent your apartment or Condo in the Hi So area of Patong, what are you complaining about? You get your mail delivery on time, as do I now that we have a new delivery guy, so what rip off or "extortions" are you subjecting yourself to? I can't think of one that I subject myself to....

Unlike you, Jimi, it would appear I am a compassionate person. I feel for the tourists getting done over here.

Maybe Phuket will become so "hard core" in the future that only the expats can survive here.

LOL! Mister Compassion! More like Mister Whiner! Really? I wasn't an idiot the first time I came to Phuket. I rented a car from David car rental near the airport. That was 2005. I don't have a lot of compassion for clueless people!

And, of course, everyone is clueless, but you, right????

And, course, you have NEVER lost one single baht to any scam, rip off, extortion, overcharge etc on Phuket, have you?

Yeah, right Jimi.

[KarenBravo]

Edited September 7, 2013 by KarenBravo

[Jimi007]

Since you don't own a business and you rent your apartment or Condo in the Hi So area of Patong, what are you complaining about? You get your mail delivery on time, as do I now that we have a new delivery guy, so what rip off or "extortions" are you subjecting yourself to? I can't think of one that I subject myself to....

Unlike you, Jimi, it would appear I am a compassionate person. I feel for the tourists getting done over here.

Maybe Phuket will become so "hard core" in the future that only the expats can survive here.

LOL! Mister Compassion! More like Mister Whiner! Really? I wasn't an idiot the first time I came to Phuket. I rented a car from David car rental near the airport. That was 2005. I don't have a lot of compassion for clueless people!

And, of course, everyone is clueless, but you, right????

And, course, you have NEVER lost one single baht to any scam, rip off, extortion, overcharge etc on Phuket, have you?

Yeah, right Jimi.

Honestly. I really can't think of one... Back to you

[pagallim]

Honestly. I really can't think of one... Back to you

Nor me. If I've ever felt that the price for goods or services are excessive, I've simply declined. The only exception to this that I can think of was during the period of the major floods more than a year ago, and buying beer was almost impossible other than from a few outlets that loaded the prices to meet demand. That kind of supply and demand (sic profiteering) happens everywhere in the world.

What I really find unfathomable, is living in a sleazy and corrupt environment that epitomises the very worst of Thai society and culture, and that causes so much angst as Patong obviously does to NKM, but still profess to be happy there. He obviously has an addiction to the place of some kind, though whatever it is, it's almost akin to some form of self flagellation.

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