Bangkok residents 'want Urupong protest stopped'

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ANTI-GOVERNMENT DEMONSTRATION
Residents 'want protest stopped'
TANATPONG KONGSAI,
PHATHINYA IAMTAN,
PIYANUT TUMNUKASETCHAI
THE NATION


at Phyathai Police Station

Police say complaint field over Urupong rally

BANGKOK: -- POLICE YESTERDAY renewed efforts to have a group of protesters leave the Urupong Intersection and return to Lumpini Park, saying local residents had filed complaints against them.

Pol Maj-General Adul Narongsak, deputy commissioner of the Metropolitan Police Bureau, said residents of the Prajaechin Market Community had filed complaints at the Phyathai police station against the Students and People Network for Thailand Reform.

Adul said residents complained that the demonstrations at the intersection on the outbound Rama VI Road, which began last Thursday, prevented them from entering their homes.

Moreover, mobile toilets were set up in front of their houses, causing foul odours. Wastewater was flowing into houses and shops, turning away prospective customers.

Residents also complained that the use of a public address system, speeches and music on the stage left them unable to sleep at night. The rally also prevented shoppers from reaching the market.

Adul said the Bangkok Metropolitan Administration had informed the Metropolitan Police Bureau that the demonstrators had never asked for permission from the BMA to hold a rally on the public space.

The group split from the People's Army against the Thaksin Regime after the PA agreed to return to Lumpini Park last Thursday.

The group is rallying at the spot, which is located outside the three districts under the enforcement of the Internal Security Act. At its peak, it drew more than 1,000 demonstrators at night.

Police said the Urupong group remained a threat and they had asked the government to consider whether to extend the ISA enforcement.

Meanwhile, Uthai Yodmanee, a representative of the Students and People Network for Thailand Reform, said local residents told him they were happy the rally took place there, as they had been able to hear useful information. Moreover, the traffic was not blocked, Uthai said.

Uthai and Jaturon Boonbenjarat, a coordinator of the Green Politics Group, submitted a letter to Attorney General Athapol Yaisawang via Office of the Attorney-General spokesman Nanthasak Pulsuk.

They called on the attorney-general to review the decision of former attorney-general Julasingh Vasantasingh to drop a terrorism charge against former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra. The letter called on the current attorney-general to reopen the case against Thaksin.

In the meantime, Admiral Banawit Kengrian, a key member of the People's Army to Overthrow the Thaksin Regime, filed a complaint with the Civil Court against the Cabinet as well as Deputy Prime Minister Niwatthumrong Boonsongpaisan for illegally invoking the Internal Security Act from October 9 in violation of the group's rights. The group asked the court to order the revocation of the ISA.

Also yesterday, the Criminal Court ruled to reject a prosecution motion aimed at revoking the bail of three Lumpini rally organisers.

The court said the three had exercised their constitutional right and they had kept the rally peaceful and unarmed without violence or provocation.

The three are Taikorn Polsuwan, Pichet Pattanachote and Somboon Thonguran, who have been granted temporary release pending judicial review of the closure of two Bangkok airports in 2008.

Meanwhile in Chiang Mai, over 1,000 corn growers continued their demonstration at the Mae Chaem district office for a second day yesterday.

They called on the government to buy their crops at a rate of Bt7 per kg and Bt9 per kg for corn of 30-per-cent and 14.5-per-cent moisture respectively. They threatened to protest at the Chiang Mai provincial hall if their demand was not met by today.


-- The Nation 2013-10-17

[ChrisY1]

When will the bamboo and truck tyres start to arrive?

[tonneke breda]

So to see are this no native Bangkokians, they might have been paid to file a complaint

[gemini81]

PTP's influence on journalism huh?

Insecure over the anti-Thaksin sentiment? Yeah, its gonna haunt you!

Peaceful protests make residents want them to go; but violent mobs don't make locals want them to go? C'mon, hahaha.

[saltandpepper]

When will the bamboo and truck tyres start to arrive?

this is the way PTP UDD Reds operate

I am sure that this time, the servile cops won't let this happen.....The real Boss will see to it

[tominbkk]

som nam na!

[GeorgeO]

PTP's influence on journalism huh?

Insecure over the anti-Thaksin sentiment? Yeah, its gonna haunt you!

Peaceful protests make residents want them to go; but violent mobs don't make locals want them to go? C'mon, hahaha.

Very selective interviewing I would suggest, and these people all seem to be very friendly towards the BiB. The only thing that's missing is their distinctive coloured shirts......

How many Democrat, or indeed, democracy supporters did they interview...?

[monkeycountry]

Does it really matter if they have a permit or if it disturbs local residents and businesses?

The red shirt protests a couple of years ago did not have a permit, shut down all business in the area and was very unpopular among local residents. However both the PTP and the police supported it, claiming they had the right to peaceful protest anywhere.

I assume the PTP and the police will grant the current protesters the same rights? :-)

[robblok]

I am pro democrats, but I can understand those people wanting the protestors go. These are probably red shirts but even if they are not nobody wants to have a protests in their front yard even if they are protesting for you. It causes a problem for them so I can understand them.

Of course the red mob got away with far more, looting and burning parts of BKK down as we all know. NOt many got convicted for that so its two tier justice as we are used to from PTP.

[Local Drunk]

The people have a voice? Amazing Thailand!

[tragickingdom]

These "friends" of the Nation. Total a few hands full of people at day time and a hundred at night time who are allowed by a completely incompetent Bangkok governor to terrorize the people of Bangkok who do real work. Only in a banana republic city administrators allow the blocking off of roads for an extended period of time. Just go to the area where the Bangkok governor lives. Shit in the bushes, urinate at his gate and than block the road for a few days. Bet you that the joker takes stern police action. Not so when yellow shirts who are putting China before Thailand do the same in other Bangkok areas. Round them up, charge them with whatever you can find and deliver them to Hun Sen just over the border.

[15Peter20]

Haha! Residents inconvenienced by red shirt demos are normal people just trying to get on with their lives whilst anyone inconvenienced by Yellow-affiliated groups simply MUST be red shirts or paid proxies.

Really...some of you people just end up making yourselves look silly. The possibility that residents near both red and yellow-affiliated rallies were just normal people with understandable complaints just cannot enter your minds.

A yellow-affiliated group is pissing off normal people - suck it up, coup lovers!

[hellodolly]

PTP's influence on journalism huh?

Insecure over the anti-Thaksin sentiment? Yeah, its gonna haunt you!

Peaceful protests make residents want them to go; but violent mobs don't make locals want them to go? C'mon, hahaha.

Wrong

The residents did not want the red shirts there either. But the present government supported the red shirts and are now in the same position that the Dems were in minus the fact that these are really peaceful demonstrators.

Maybe the PTP will send in their armed contingent to clear the scene. A good opportunity to bring Jutuporn back onto the local government.

Edited October 17, 2013 by hellodolly

[gemini81]

PTP's influence on journalism huh?

Insecure over the anti-Thaksin sentiment? Yeah, its gonna haunt you!

Peaceful protests make residents want them to go; but violent mobs don't make locals want them to go? C'mon, hahaha.

Wrong

The residents did not want the red shirts there either. But the present government supported the red shirts and are now in the same position that the Dems were in minus the fact that these are really peaceful demonstrators.

Maybe the PTP will send in their armed contingent to clear the scene. A good opportunity to bring Jutuporn back onto the local government.

Sarcasm, sarcasm. I am speaking of hypocracy.

There were (pink?) color shirts (business owners) who didn't want the red mobs there, along with local residents. I am speaking figuratively how a small group of anti-gov't are taken so seriously, but on the flip side, the other group in the past had no police blocks, free reign, to spell out my embedded meaning to you. Don't be so quick to expect all posters to be PTP supporters.

Edited October 17, 2013 by gemini81

[mikemac]

Haha! Residents inconvenienced by red shirt demos are normal people just trying to get on with their lives whilst anyone inconvenienced by Yellow-affiliated groups simply MUST be red shirts or paid proxies.

Haha! So nice to see that you have finally come to your senses and admitted the truth !

Really...some of you people just end up making yourselves look silly. The possibility that residents near both red and yellow-affiliated rallies were just normal people with understandable complaints just cannot enter your minds.

A yellow-affiliated group is pissing off normal people - suck it up, coup lovers!

Darn. It was too good to be true. But don't worry, after a while the brainwashing will wear off and you will be normal again. And don't mention the "C" word. You may be tempting fate. But I believe those who deranged enough to support Thaksin and co. enjoy a good coup as much as anyone.

[h90]

I am pro democrats, but I can understand those people wanting the protestors go. These are probably red shirts but even if they are not nobody wants to have a protests in their front yard even if they are protesting for you. It causes a problem for them so I can understand them.

Of course the red mob got away with far more, looting and burning parts of BKK down as we all know. NOt many got convicted for that so its two tier justice as we are used to from PTP.

On previous PAD demonstrations they paid some residents to sue the PAD

Nothing you couldn't do with some money. Beside it is understandable, alone my wives TV with the mob is a hard burden.

[scorecard]

PTP's influence on journalism huh?

Insecure over the anti-Thaksin sentiment? Yeah, its gonna haunt you!

Peaceful protests make residents want them to go; but violent mobs don't make locals want them to go? C'mon, hahaha.

Wrong

The residents did not want the red shirts there either. But the present government supported the red shirts and are now in the same position that the Dems were in minus the fact that these are really peaceful demonstrators.

Maybe the PTP will send in their armed contingent to clear the scene. A good opportunity to bring Jutuporn back onto the local government.

Plus, how many local people in the red shirt barricade areas / protest area at Rajaprasong etc., would have been brave enough to confront the red shirt mobs or their leaders?

None, because they would have feared personal violence, their house trashed or burned down, etc.

[mikemac]

So to see are this no native Bangkokians, they might have been paid to file a complaint

500 baht a complaint ? I would whine like a coyote for that kind of dosh......................

[ramrod711]

Meanwhile in Chiang Mai, over 1,000 corn growers continued their demonstration at the Mae Chaem district office for a second day yesterday.

They called on the government to buy their crops at a rate of Bt7 per kg and Bt9 per kg for corn of 30-per-cent and 14.5-per-cent moisture respectively. They threatened to protest at the Chiang Mai provincial hall if their demand was not met by today.

We hear nothing about this in Chiang Mai, PTP controls the press. We vacationed in Samui a few weeks ago, my wife told me that the news coverage is completely different in the south. I was surprised, i guess i shouldn't have been, i've been here long enough to know better.

[siampolee]

One is led to wonder just where or what this might lead to ?

A dangerous precedent could be set and it could well be the fuse to something very nasty blowing up in everyone's face irrespective of their political stance.

Indeed I am of the opinion it could well be the thin edge of the wedge concerning democracy.

Perhaps if the house registrations, business permits and the I.D. cards of those who are laying the complaint were made public we would be able to see whether this is a locally led movement by resident locals with their own local interests at heart or a P.T.P. and police inspired movement.

[mikemac]

Meanwhile in Chiang Mai, over 1,000 corn growers continued their demonstration at the Mae Chaem district office for a second day yesterday.

They called on the government to buy their crops at a rate of Bt7 per kg and Bt9 per kg for corn of 30-per-cent and 14.5-per-cent moisture respectively. They threatened to protest at the Chiang Mai provincial hall if their demand was not met by today.

We hear nothing about this in Chiang Mai, PTP controls the press. We vacationed in Samui a few weeks ago, my wife told me that the news coverage is completely different in the south. I was surprised, i guess i shouldn't have been, i've been here long enough to know better.

Soon there will be so many groups protesting against the PTP you will not be able to keep track of them. Death of a Thousand Protests.

[fab4]

Meanwhile in Chiang Mai, over 1,000 corn growers continued their demonstration at the Mae Chaem district office for a second day yesterday.

They called on the government to buy their crops at a rate of Bt7 per kg and Bt9 per kg for corn of 30-per-cent and 14.5-per-cent moisture respectively. They threatened to protest at the Chiang Mai provincial hall if their demand was not met by today.

We hear nothing about this in Chiang Mai, PTP controls the press. We vacationed in Samui a few weeks ago, my wife told me that the news coverage is completely different in the south. I was surprised, i guess i shouldn't have been, i've been here long enough to know better.

I suggest you check out the Fortnightly Chiang Mail Mail Front Page, for the edition dated October 6th-19th (below).

2,000 corn farmers block City Hall

More than 2,000 corn farmers blockaded City Hall on October 1 as they

awaited a Cabinet decision on fixing corn prices.

"Over 2,000 corn farmers from Mae Chaem blocked the four entrances of City Hall on Tuesday October, 1, 2013 at 6:30 a.m. saying they would not disperse until the Thai Cabinet announced their decision on fixing the price of corn..........................

................Later in the day the Cabinet approved a budget of 2,300 million baht to intervene in fixing corn prices at 7 to 9 baht per kilogram. The protesters left at 5:45 p.m. as their demands had been met.

http://www.chiangmai-mail.com/current/news.shtml#hd1"

Cabinet approves corn pledging price of 9 baht per kilogram Published on October 3, 2013 by TFP · No Comments

BANGKOK, 2 October 2013 (NNT) â” The Cabinet has approved the pledging price of 9 baht per kilogram for corn. The price for corn with 30% moisture content has been set at 7 baht/kg, whereas corn with 15% moisture content will fetch 9 baht/kg. http://thaifinancialpost.com/2013/10/03/cabinet-approves-corn-pledging-price-of-9-baht-per-kilogram/

It turns out that you didn't know what was going on because you didn't look, not that the "PTP controls the press"

Edited October 17, 2013 by fab4

[givenall]

What was good for goose is good for gander

[chainarong]

Hullo , this looks serious, corn farmers in Chiang Mai are getting restless , the Pandora's box is starting to rear it's ugly head, the PTP populist policies are now coming home to rest, you can fool people, some of the time, but not all of the time, if it's good enough for rice farmers, it's good enough for the rest, as for the protests in BKK , I would like to see who is complaining, there are some valid reasons ,there such as toilets etc , so maybe back at the park is not an unreasonable request, this needs to be sorted, without the response becoming a riot.

[fab4]

One is led to wonder just where or what this might lead to ?

A dangerous precedent could be set and it could well be the fuse to something very nasty blowing up in everyone's face irrespective of their political stance.

Indeed I am of the opinion it could well be the thin edge of the wedge concerning democracy.

Perhaps if the house registrations, business permits and the I.D. cards of those who are laying the complaint were made public we would be able to see whether this is a locally led movement by resident locals with their own local interests at heart or a P.T.P. and police inspired movement.

Or it could just be people making the complaints "with their own local interests at heart" as you so generously put it. You support the locals complaining about the UDD having their rallies (how many locals live in shopping malls anyway?) but now you decry others wishing to make complaints. Now that's pretzel logic for you! Not everything needs to be a conspiracy.

[siampolee]

Now pray where did I support the locals complaining about the U.D.D.?

[Baerboxer]

One is led to wonder just where or what this might lead to ?

A dangerous precedent could be set and it could well be the fuse to something very nasty blowing up in everyone's face irrespective of their political stance.

Indeed I am of the opinion it could well be the thin edge of the wedge concerning democracy.

Perhaps if the house registrations, business permits and the I.D. cards of those who are laying the complaint were made public we would be able to see whether this is a locally led movement by resident locals with their own local interests at heart or a P.T.P. and police inspired movement.

Or it could just be people making the complaints "with their own local interests at heart" as you so generously put it. You support the locals complaining about the UDD having their rallies (how many locals live in shopping malls anyway?) but now you decry others wishing to make complaints. Now that's pretzel logic for you! Not everything needs to be a conspiracy.

How many protesters are located at Urupong compared to the Red shirt uprising in Bangkok in 2010?

Why didn't the police respond to locals complaints then? The problem was much greater.

No conspiracy - PTP don't want anyone commenting on what they do, protesting or asking questions. Total obedience and believe what they say, even when its obviously complete bs. Their grip on the police is again demonstrated.

[Daniel5]

2,000 corn farmers block City Hall

More than 2,000 corn farmers blockaded City Hall

Why is this group of protesters not met with the same level of police containment and hassling?

They impeded government operation and public availability to government services, even to a higher degree, than the Bangkok protest.

Also, why were the corn farmers' demands given into so fully and rapidly, whereas the rubber farmers are stonewalled and harassed?

So many double standards, so little time.

[khunken]

One is led to wonder just where or what this might lead to ?

A dangerous precedent could be set and it could well be the fuse to something very nasty blowing up in everyone's face irrespective of their political stance.

Indeed I am of the opinion it could well be the thin edge of the wedge concerning democracy.

Perhaps if the house registrations, business permits and the I.D. cards of those who are laying the complaint were made public we would be able to see whether this is a locally led movement by resident locals with their own local interests at heart or a P.T.P. and police inspired movement.

Or it could just be people making the complaints "with their own local interests at heart" as you so generously put it. You support the locals complaining about the UDD having their rallies (how many locals live in shopping malls anyway?) but now you decry others wishing to make complaints. Now that's pretzel logic for you! Not everything needs to be a conspiracy.

I don't know what pretzel logic is but I know red shirt logic when I see it.

The Red shirt protest in 2010 took in a complete area including Chidlom, Lang Suan, Rama iv, Petchburi Rd, Ratchadamri and Ploenchit as well as Ratchaprasong. Many people were prevented from not only getting to their homes & work but were subject to searches and violent scuffles. Far more were affected than in this case.

If their complainants are genuine, I sympathise with them but the BIB are not known for their neutrality.

The protest attracted a less subservient group because the ISA enforcement & 2,400 police to control 300 or so protestors was OTT big time. All the threats from the PTP & BIB backfired and this protest could have been prevented (& finished even now) by someone at a senior level in the BIB with negotiating skills - without any instructions from the PTP. Unfortunately most senior level BIBs have been appointed indirectly by the DL and are not there for their skills.

Edited October 17, 2013 by khunken

[tingtongteesood]

And how many people wanted the red shirt rioters to go home 3 years ago > And yet they still hung around for many weeks as the police did nothing about it...How do you spell HIPPOCRITES ? Bloody melons, should fire the lot of the corrupt bastards !