I am so happy!

I stayed away from this thread until now. And now I'll leave, and won't come back....

I'm learning, albeit slowly...

Good idea!

You won't be missed apart from beautiful girls looking for old red eyes...if there are any.

LaoPo

Also for Sheryl.... your misandristic beliefs, that shine through in your posts again and again, are not healthy for you. You really need to learn that our behaviour is not all determined in our mind as a conscious process, and women are no more superior in their ability to reason than men are, contrary to your belief.

I was on the verge of really saying what i think about your insinuations about men in your posting history, but i will refrain because i am a gentleman and it would get me a lengthy ban.

I am not going to dignify this with a response to the poster.

But I would like to ask the moderatopr and other readers if I am wrong in thinking this reads rather like a personal attack, which is exactly the sort of thing posters are asked to refrain from? Certainly neither paragraph adds anything to the discussion at hand.

I think he takes it further. He seems to be saying that women think primarily with their wallets, or lack thereof.

Not quite, but you're getting there. All women, 100% of the female population that is, are pre-programmed, as Sir Burr says to go for the man who can "provide" the best possible situation to bring up her offspring. Now, as we all know that doesn't always happen, we fall in love, we compromise, we find ourselves attracted to all sorts of different people, but the fact remains that whomever you choose, there is both a conscious decision and much more importantly a sub conscious decision, this is the pre programmed genetic breeding part that all of us have, especially so women!! Without it the human species would be where it is today. I suspect that dependant on your upbringing the programming has a more or less marked effect, and of course many women can and do overcome that "programming".... of course!! , but it is always there, ready to ambush you when you least expect it. ( that's why you go for the wrong types.... continually- ring any bells ladies)

So women don't really think with their wallets, they leave that to their unfertilised eggs! Ergo: when it comes to men they don't really think at all!!!

1. not all women want children, and less than 100% of women are even interested in men.

2. if we are all "genetically pre programmed" to find the best mates for our offspring, and men are genetically programmed to fertilize as many eggs as possible, then it is a good thing that at least in other parts of the world that women and men have started to evolve past their animal kingdom instincts - also good for the human species. In fact, conscientous thought is precisely what makes us human.

3. What exactly do you define as the "right type" - the guy with the wallet and credit cards? Plenty of those here, then - little wonder the genetic breeding argument is such a hit.

Also for Sheryl.... your misandristic beliefs, that shine through in your posts again and again, are not healthy for you. You really need to learn that our behaviour is not all determined in our mind as a conscious process, and women are no more superior in their ability to reason than men are, contrary to your belief.

I was on the verge of really saying what i think about your insinuations about men in your posting history, but i will refrain because i am a gentleman and it would get me a lengthy ban.

I am not going to dignify this with a response to the poster.

But I would like to ask the moderatopr and other readers if I am wrong in thinking this reads rather like a personal attack, which is exactly the sort of thing posters are asked to refrain from? Certainly neither paragraph adds anything to the discussion at hand.

Yes, Sheryl I do. But that is rampant and nothing new at TV.

Yes, Sheryl I do. But that is rampant and nothing new at TV.

OK, so personal attacks which add nothing to the topic are the " norm" on TV. There is, however, a special problem unique to this forum, which is that it is unable to serve its intended function of enabling women to share views and information, and providing a forum for expression of specifically female viewpoints both for women's use and for any men interested in hearing same.

If you review the posts of the last month you'll see a pattern: a woman posts, seeking the opinions or knowledge of other women, or else a man posts specifically asking for female opinions, and then -- men answer with their own opinions, and also post to denounce any opinions expressed by women.

Naturally, there are differences between male and female viewpoints on many topics, especially those touching on reltions between the sexes. But I don't think the intended purpose of this forum is the debate those. If enough men want such a forum, perhaps they should start one (but don't be surprised if few women participate!).

There are a large number of forums on TV, and male posters predominate on virtually all of them. Granted, one has the impression that the majority of TV members are male. But can we not have just ONE forum for the ladies?

Because if we want to, something needs to be done,. the forum has been virtually dead of late, with very few new threads begun. I know I hesitate to start one and have been told by other women that they likewise wouldn't dare because they know they'd be dluged with men shouting down whatever they said.

If we can't find a way to improve this sitruation, this forum is going to die a natural death, and expat women on TV will not be able to do more than get practical info from time to time. Which is a shame, because many of us need and want a forum where we can "meet" and interact with other expat women living in Thailand. (any English-speaking Thai women who are interested in joining)..or numbers aren't that large and we're scattered across the country, so it would fill a real need.

Ladies--- what to do???

I agree Sheryl. Sorry I have fallen down on the job a bit lately but it is hard to actually get rid of some of these people.

The nice men (brit, laopo and a few others come to mind) will feel hurt and unwanted and leave and the bozos (you know who you are) will be their usual thickskinned selves and post away.

Let me think on this one.

OK, so personal attacks which add nothing to the topic are the " norm" on TV. There is, however, a special problem unique to this forum, which is that it is unable to serve its intended function of enabling women to share views and information, and providing a forum for expression of specifically female viewpoints both for women's use and for any men interested in hearing same.

If you review the posts of the last month you'll see a pattern: a woman posts, seeking the opinions or knowledge of other women, or else a man posts specifically asking for female opinions, and then -- men answer with their own opinions, and also post to denounce any opinions expressed by women.

Naturally, there are differences between male and female viewpoints on many topics, especially those touching on reltions between the sexes. But I don't think the intended purpose of this forum is the debate those. If enough men want such a forum, perhaps they should start one (but don't be surprised if few women participate!).

There are a large number of forums on TV, and male posters predominate on virtually all of them. Granted, one has the impression that the majority of TV members are male. But can we not have just ONE forum for the ladies?

Because if we want to, something needs to be done,. the forum has been virtually dead of late, with very few new threads begun. I know I hesitate to start one and have been told by other women that they likewise wouldn't dare because they know they'd be dluged with men shouting down whatever they said.

If we can't find a way to improve this sitruation, this forum is going to die a natural death, and expat women on TV will not be able to do more than get practical info from time to time. Which is a shame, because many of us need and want a forum where we can "meet" and interact with other expat women living in Thailand. (any English-speaking Thai women who are interested in joining)..or numbers aren't that large and we're scattered across the country, so it would fill a real need.

Ladies--- what to do???

You are quite correct Sheryl, and in my opinion quite justified in saying so.

Gentlemen, please leave the ladies to enjoy discourse with each other... and please respect their wishes not to be interrupted by the fellas on the Forum.

Any further violations of their privacy or disrespectful posting will be dealt with by the ThaiVisa moderating team.

Respect... and a little privacy... it's not too much to ask is it?

OK, so personal attacks which add nothing to the topic are the " norm" on TV. There is, however, a special problem unique to this forum, which is that it is unable to serve its intended function of enabling women to share views and information, and providing a forum for expression of specifically female viewpoints both for women's use and for any men interested in hearing same.

If you review the posts of the last month you'll see a pattern: a woman posts, seeking the opinions or knowledge of other women, or else a man posts specifically asking for female opinions, and then -- men answer with their own opinions, and also post to denounce any opinions expressed by women.

Naturally, there are differences between male and female viewpoints on many topics, especially those touching on reltions between the sexes. But I don't think the intended purpose of this forum is the debate those. If enough men want such a forum, perhaps they should start one (but don't be surprised if few women participate!).

There are a large number of forums on TV, and male posters predominate on virtually all of them. Granted, one has the impression that the majority of TV members are male. But can we not have just ONE forum for the ladies?

Because if we want to, something needs to be done,. the forum has been virtually dead of late, with very few new threads begun. I know I hesitate to start one and have been told by other women that they likewise wouldn't dare because they know they'd be dluged with men shouting down whatever they said.

If we can't find a way to improve this sitruation, this forum is going to die a natural death, and expat women on TV will not be able to do more than get practical info from time to time. Which is a shame, because many of us need and want a forum where we can "meet" and interact with other expat women living in Thailand. (any English-speaking Thai women who are interested in joining)..or numbers aren't that large and we're scattered across the country, so it would fill a real need.

Ladies--- what to do???

You are quite correct Sheryl, and in my opinion quite justified in saying so.

Gentlemen, please leave the ladies to enjoy discourse with each other... and please respect their wishes not to be interrupted by the fellas on the Forum.

Any further violations of their privacy or disrespectful posting will be dealt with by the ThaiVisa moderating team.

Respect... and a little privacy... it's not too much to ask is it?

well said and thank you Jai Dee,

I hope your words will be respected

I have always considered myself as a guest in the Ladies Forum and acted accordingly. Being a guest, I can be requested to leave when my welcome has worn out.

As stated by Jaidee, respect and a little privacy is not too much to ask for.

I can foresee the day when men are banned from the female discussions if the intrusive males do not learn some manners.

I can foresee the day when men are banned from the female discussions if the intrusive males do not learn some manners.

I really truely hope this never happens, I enjoy the male contingent who post here but it is a sad thing when a few run unchecked & spoil it for the rest.

So back to the topic Age differences

Woman, 104, takes man, 33, as husband No. 21

Tuesday, May 2, 2006; Posted: 6:25 p.m. EDT (22:25 GMT)

KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia (AP) -- A 33-year-old man in northern Malaysia has married a 104-year-old woman, saying mutual respect and friendship had turned to love, a news report said Tuesday.

It was Muhamad Noor Che Musa's first marriage and his wife's 21st, according to The Star newspaper, which cited a report in the Malay-language Harian Metro tabloid.

Muhamad, an ex-army serviceman, said he found peace and a sense of belonging after meeting Wook Kundor, whom he said he initially sympathized with because she was childless, old and alone, the report said.

"I am not after her money, as she is poor," Muhamad reportedly said. "Before meeting Wook, I never stayed in one place for long."

He said he hoped to help his new bride to master Roman script while she taught him Islamic religious knowledge.

The report did not say if any of Wook's previous 20 husbands are still alive.

Malaysian Muslim men are allowed by their religion to take up to four wives at a time, but reports of women who marry more than once are rare. Muslim women do not practice polygamy.

Malaysia's 26 million population comprises about 60 percent Muslims, almost all ethnic Malays. Large ethnic Chinese and Indian minorities are Buddhists, Hindus or Christians.

Copyright 2006 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/05/0...g.ap/index.html

Good for her!!

Well guys, can you beat that age difference?? But then we superior beings live longer than men, don't we?

Age Differences?

Than this might be of interest:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_relat...h_age_disparity

but....Wook Kundor, the Lady from Malaysia holds the record but...isn't she pretty?

And, a list of people with multiple marriages; a guy named Glynn Wofe married 29 times...his last marriage with a Linda Essex who married just a simple 23 times...poor girl!

""Glynn Scotty Wolfe, who is 75, married for the 26th time Saturday at a wedding chapel on the Las Vegas Strip. Wearing a black tuxedo and an ear-to-ear smile, Mr. Wolfe walked out of the chapel with his bride, 38-year-old Christine Camacho, the oldest of his brides." "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_peopl...tiple_marriages

Now, who said there are no opportunities anymore to get married

LaoPo

Edited May 19, 200620 yr by LaoPo

I am trying desperately hard NOT to think of their sex life

I am trying desperately hard NOT to think of their sex life

The love between those two is about spiritual love, Boo, not sex

They're probably very much attracted to each other......

are they?

LaoPo

They're probably going at it like bunnies...

They don't mention what exactly it was that happened to her first 20 husbands.....maybe she wore them out???

Venturing nervously in to the Laddies section...

I find the problems that arise with Thai/Falang relationships are more to do with education levels than age.

I had an excellent relationship with a 22 year old university student until she had to go off and marry the bloke her family wanted her to (her views on George Soros were unprintable) but have had great difficulty trying to have relationships with women aged 40 (same age as me) who are barely literate and read only those comic books if anything at all and seem to be addicted to Hello Kitty.

You can only do the horizontal mambo for so long and at some time your brain needs stimulating so for me when talking about a possible Thai/Falang relationship the question is wrongly framed.

Unprintable views on George Soros from educated Asians is totally understandable as he was responsible for causing the Asian economic crisis of 97-98. I don't care for soros myself and would love to discuss him with that smart girl

When I die, I want it to be on my 100 birthday at my beach house in Pattaya and I want my wife to be so upset she drops out of college.

Edited May 20, 200620 yr by mark45y

They don't mention what exactly it was that happened to her first 20 husbands.....maybe she wore them out???

Whatever happened, she must have been (sorry, she is at 104 ) a very special Lady to marry so many times.

If it's a man marrying many times, most often people would say: "oohhh... it's about his money".

Well, I might be wrong and she's rich too (by Malay standards)...who knows?

LaoPo

Edited May 20, 200620 yr by LaoPo

He (the husband) said in the article that she was poor, so true love reall is blind?

He (the husband) said in the article that she was poor, so true love reall is blind?

Maybe he.......and she, lied

Or, she has an insatiable sexdrive? still...after so many husbands.

LaoPo

I hate to say it but if you have to ask then maybe deep down your feel there is something wrong with it. SO with that reasoning It will not work as you have self doubt which in the end will ruin it.

Black widow

Thought i'd give a bit of male input....

always dated girls between 17 and 19 in the UK, til I was 28 (albeit looking younger than I am) and never got funny looks, and their parents, even daddy liked the fact I was a bit older, more mature (apparently lol)

Was great as they kept me young too, and I enjoyed knocking about with a group of 19 year olds for obvious reasons

Only psent 2 months in LOS, and fell for 2 lovely girls in that time (dont we all?) one was 18 and worked in an office, the other was 25 and, alas, a bar girl from Buriram

got on soooooo well with the pair of them, never handed over a penny to either and cried when I had to say my goodbyes..

Still speak to the pair of them from back here in UK and have made really 2 good friends out of it

Never dated anyone older than me

Not going to say much, age is something we imagine to be important but actually it is not. Experience in life and the ability to slowly understand one's partner is much more important. Slowly being the KEY word.

I totally agree with you. My husband is 6 years younger than me and we met when he was 19 and I was 25. We look about the same age though. I didn't think age really matter because we clicked emotionally. You could say he was more mature than people his age or I was immature for people my age or maybe both. Somehow we just clicked. Of course there'll be some changes coming to your lives when you get older but as long as you are on each other's side, that's all that matters anyway. It's been an interesting ride for us though we have our ups and downs.

Old thread, timeless concept

Old thread, timeless concept

Didn't see the time on the first thread. It went way back half a year ago. Funny no one commented between late May to November.

That's ok, this topic is always relevant

has anyone here had a relationship with someone significantly younger or older than them? what sorts of problems did you have? i know there are lots of older men with younger thai women in thailand, so you can comment as well... i met someone i like a lot but he is much younger than i am. i don't want to be ageist but there are certain changes people go through that affect realtionships, especially in the early 20s. should i bother or is it a recipe for disaster?

I am not run behindg much younger woman but it happen in my past live that I was married 2 times (european woman's) with much younger woman, fist 12, seceond 22 years younger and with both I was married ca. 12 years. Divorce was not the cause of age.

I say always we have 2 ages... the give paper age by birht and the real physical and mental age.

Remember when you meet your classmates on your 50 or 60 years old. How they look very different and how different is the behavior of each? Important is how you think, your heart, character and physicaly conditions. I wold not be afraid go married with a 25 years old woman on my sixties if she is mature and well grown up (some are childish till over 40 years....).

In this case consider the real facts and not the paper age....! But most important is between Farang and Thai woman that they have a common, well developped language to find a dialogue, to make each other understanding.... if there is only yes, maybe and up to you you will fail. Good luck

Edited November 6, 200619 yr by thaibear1