Olive and Avocado Trees

[playbgnow]

Does anyone happen to know if and where I can buy young olive and avocado trees in the Chiang Mai / Chiang Rai area?

Thanks.

[ozzydom]

Royal Project Foundation in chiang Mai

[Iamemjay]

Avocados - depends whether you want grafted trees or seedlings. Seedlings are fairly readily available in nurseries and as the other respondent said, Royal Projects. If you want grafted trees, their availability (mainly Royal projects) is very patchy and they are quite expensive by comparison. Also the seedlings will be mainly the Thai varieties. I have gotten past this problem by bringing seeds of suitable non-Thai varieties Williams, Hass, Fuerte, Pinkerton etc back with me from Australia. (Interestingly these have mostly done better than the cross-bred Thai varieties.)

[David48]

lameemjay ... great post above.

Since you have experience with Australian Avocados in Thailand, with the seeds that you bring over, I assume that you grow the seed in Thailand?

Do you graft that Australian Avocado onto a Thai root stock?

What root stock do you use?

Just a general question about avocado trees.

My Uncle used to graft different varieties of the same fruit tree onto one tree so that he got the different species from the same tree. Limited success though.

Anyone tried that with Avocados?

Can it be done?

So you would have branches from say 4 varieties (Williams, Hass, Fuerte, Pinkerton) on one tree.

[playbgnow]

How long does it take to grow before you have avocados to eat?

Olives?

[pookiki]

How long does it take to grow before you have avocados to eat?

Olives?

It takes seven years for avocados. Not sure about olives.

[pookiki]

Avocados - depends whether you want grafted trees or seedlings. Seedlings are fairly readily available in nurseries and as the other respondent said, Royal Projects. If you want grafted trees, their availability (mainly Royal projects) is very patchy and they are quite expensive by comparison. Also the seedlings will be mainly the Thai varieties. I have gotten past this problem by bringing seeds of suitable non-Thai varieties Williams, Hass, Fuerte, Pinkerton etc back with me from Australia. (Interestingly these have mostly done better than the cross-bred Thai varieties.)

Why don't Thai farmers grow more avocados with good flavor and consistency? Of late, I have been going to a local market that sells avos from Chiang Mai for 60 baht/kilo. Even when I have had good luck in selecting a good one, they are usually very watery and stringy. But the price is much better than 69 baht for a small Hass avocado at Villa. But the quality of the Haas is so superior!

[DonaldBattles]

Growing avocados in northern Thailand is difficult. The trees get and the limbs will die. have several trees started from seeds that are about 7 years old and they have never bloomed or produced fruit. However, nearby a Thai man has good producing trees that he started from seeds.

[teletiger]

Most of the talats in and around Chiang Mai are bursting with avocados at the moment. Further North in the hill tribe talats, they have a large round type of avocado, very tasty and 30/35 Baht per kilo.

Regards.

[kikoman]

I planted Two small avocado trees that have barely grown a little in 8 months, but look healthy!

The three lime trees I planted about a month and a half ago, are not a foot tall and have limes already

Cheers:

[tim armstrong]

• Avocardo is THE food according to many dieticians and others. I agree, but like many I have searched for good avos in Thailand with only mixed success. I used to grow them in Oz, and yes the Oz varieties grown from seed will do better. I lived near Alstonville in northern NSW which has a sub tropical climate and red soil. It is less humid and a bit drier than Thailand, and avos were a major crop until they all got a root disease - phytofera ?. I suspect the humidity here and the high rainfall makes avos grow too quickly whish may explain the watery texture, but don't really know.

I would definitely try some Oz varieties especially - Fuerte. They do need a bit of care with regards to insects. I've also noticed that MAKRO and the other supermarkets don't generally know when an avo is ripe, and often assume that the darkening colour is a sign that they have gone bad. Selfishly I will continue to encourage this false belief.

Good luck with your efforts.

[BSJ]

Olive trees keep popping into my thoughts. When the family come to the conclusion Mango trees are not worth the bother I can jump in with the suggestion....Olive tree's would be a better more profitable crop!

[DonaldBattles]

Thais do not eat avocados. Also, there is no Thai word for avocados. It is one of the most perfect foods. there are over 500 different varieties of avocados. When you buy the small haas from Australia the seed and pealing to meat ratio is so small that you are paying about 1200 Baht per kg for the meat. It is a bad buy a small amount of meat for a large amount of money. I venture to say that blind tasting of Thai avocados against other countries all things being equal you could not tell the difference in the taste.

[David48]

Thais do not eat avocados.

Don't tell my gf that ...

[kikoman]

My wife also eats avocados, I like the taste of Thai avocado's and their price makes them preferable to me.

Cheers:

[namdocmai]

My wife and all her friends love them. Now we buy them in Tops grown in Thailand (Royal project) 4 hass for 95 baht. Also 3 huge Booth#7 for 90 baht, just search the whole fruit department in your local Tops, they might have them. All Tops in BKK have them now and also Gourmet market Siam paragon.

But i m looking for grafted tree's myself to grow in BKK. I read they sell them in Pakchong area but if anybody has a real adress of them i would be gratefull for that.

Grafted tree's can fruit after 2-3 years so that's better then 7-10 years for a seedling tree.

[teletiger]

The place for trees in Pak Chong is Guang Dong. 20 kilos after Pak Chong towards Saraburi on the #2 Highway, at Muak Lek. Nurseries on both sides of the road.

Regards.

[namdocmai]

Thanks teletiger!

Does anybody know the thai word for olive ?? Then i can ask some nurseries that are specialised in rare fruits. I go there often because i like to grow fruits that are not on the market. Myself and my thai wife only like black olives though.