papa al Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 (edited) As I was unable to go Saturday, I took an 0700 ferry to Ko Lan this AM.Many new PFDs (life vests) with little plastic whistles attached were in evidence on the boat, and it looked like the other tubs had them too.On the return trip I even saw a crew member come by and ask people to don them.Almost everyone did. Edited November 6, 2013 by metisdead Font reset to default forum font. Use Arial size 14, black when posting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post soi41 Posted November 6, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted November 6, 2013 A little like closing the barn door after the horse has bolted!! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieH Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 (edited) I saw 2 flies crawling up the wall today, just as riveting ! Would be better suited to the travel forum if they can stand the excitement. Edited November 6, 2013 by CharlieH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nakhonandy Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 I wonder how long that will be the case? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 So these life vests were sitting in a cupboard some-place nearby??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little mary sunshine Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 Something positive....only cost......6 lives..............so sad........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thaimlord Posted November 6, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted November 6, 2013 A little like closing the barn door after the horse has bolted!! On the contrary, the ferries go all day every day. It may help someone (or many someones) in the future. And a lot of those people in the tragedy had life jackets on anyway in the water. Every progression is a good one. In Thailand they are slow to progress with these sorts of things, but progress they do. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post impulse Posted November 6, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted November 6, 2013 Better news than "nothing has changed". Thanks, OP for the update. Good info. Now we'll see if they keep improving. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa al Posted November 6, 2013 Author Share Posted November 6, 2013 (edited) So these life vests were sitting in a cupboard some-place nearby??? No sir. They were buckled around all the seat backs and side rails. Edited November 6, 2013 by metisdead Font reset to default forum font. Use Arial size 14, black when posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mic59 Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 I wonder how long that will be the case? Not terribly long I would think. Just long enough to convince people something is being done. I went to Lombok by ferry from Bali in 1997, there were 4 lifeboats, none of them in an appropriate position for an emergency. I read about a later tragedy on the Lombok ferry and I'm sure safety precautions there and in other parts of south-east asia were ramped up for a while but after a period it was back to business as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 I often reflect how vision requires the ability to consider the future, and the impact your current decisions could have on the future, in terms of safety, well being, comfort, convenience, customer attitudes, etc. In Thailand few seem to be able to consider the future, and the impact their current decisions (or lack thereof) could have on their future. In a way it is admirable how present the Thai people are. But, in business the inability to even consider the future is a liability. Especially when it comes to safety. So, now after this horrible accident, they are forced to do something, like carry life jackets, when nearly every country in the world requires them, and most countries levy a penalty for not complying. Now there is talk about requiring seat belts in the buses, after the recent spate of bus accidents. But, one must wonder why has this not been considered to date? Why would you not have seat belts to begin with? Why the aversion to planning. Why the complete disregard to safety? Why the complete lack of enforcement? Is it apathy? Is it a lack of concern? It is purely a lack of vision? What is going on here? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveB2 Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 I often reflect how vision requires the ability to consider the future, and the impact your current decisions could have on the future, in terms of safety, well being, comfort, convenience, customer attitudes, etc. In Thailand few seem to be able to consider the future, and the impact their current decisions (or lack thereof) could have on their future. In a way it is admirable how present the Thai people are. But, in business the inability to even consider the future is a liability. Especially when it comes to safety. So, now after this horrible accident, they are forced to do something, like carry life jackets, when nearly every country in the world requires them, and most countries levy a penalty for not complying. Now there is talk about requiring seat belts in the buses, after the recent spate of bus accidents. But, one must wonder why has this not been considered to date? Why would you not have seat belts to begin with? Why the aversion to planning. Why the complete disregard to safety? Why the complete lack of enforcement? Is it apathy? Is it a lack of concern? It is purely a lack of vision? What is going on here? I liked this response very much, with some searching questions that concern much of the strangeness that affects all our daily lives here in Thailand. however, the answer is simple - Thailand is a developing country - it simply hasn't had enough accidents involving significant loss of life for there to be the political pressure here to create and enforce the many regulations you mentioned in your comment. For example - seat belts - go back in time just 50 years and most leading western countries had similar lack of regulations; neither the United Kingdom, USA, Canada, or Australia required seat belts at this time. However, life jackets - well that's another matter, and kind of a 'no brainer' requiring no explanation that when boats sink, the folks that can't swim are going to drown. The US Congress passed an act requiring the provision of Life Jackets in 1852 - more than 150 years ago. However, read my paragraph #2 once again, and the answer is there - its not seen important enough to create and enforce the regulations here yet. All governments world wide tend to work retrospectively with 20/20 hindsight creating & enforcing regulations after massive accidents in their own countries. It was like that in the west, and it should be no shock to expect the same in the East. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinity11 Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 I used to take this ferry regularly and could see it was an accident in the making just surprised it did NOT happen sooner. It takes a lot of balls to grab and put on a life vest when NO ONE else is doing it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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