Thaksin Presses Libel Against Celebrity Actress

[PeterSmiles]

Dharmakaya is a Buddhist sect which is seen as harbouring close ties to Mr. Thaksin and his party.

No womder that it has close ties to Thaksin.

Public accusations of 1999–2002

In 1999^[3][4] and again in 2002^[5][6] the temple's abbot, was accused of charges ranging from fraud and embezzlement to corruption.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wat_Phra_Dhammakaya

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The pseudo Buddhist moneymaking machine (Scientology, Mun and Bhagwan (Oshi) system)

is ready for every "business", but the followers of this sect are mostly middle class people, no Thaksin admirors..

The rumors quoted have a low but not excluded probability.

I have fixed that quote for you

Now about the rumors, i remember that at the time of the accusations, it was revealed that the Abbot had registered all the gifts of land to the temple in his personal name.

He paid over 2 million a year in property taxes for the land he owned in his personal name. You will be aware that property taxes in Thailand are negligible.

To interrogate him they had to employ the army with something like 100 soldiers involved, because he refused to show up and the police was too afraid to go arrest him

[Confuscious]

Me thinks General Alzheimer is frequently visiting Thaksin .....

Time to evaluate the value of his empty skull ,,,

[sms747]

That temple, is well known for buying merit.

Yes, along with every other temple here.

[rametindallas]

Why is everyone in such a hurry to rush the Senate's decision? They have 60 days, by law, to decide. There are pro amnesty Thaksin lackeys in the Senate who must be convinced by the sane Senators that to continue to blindly follow instructions from Dubai will lead to chaos. Even if the majority do not want the bill to pass, there are some who want to send it back to the Lower House unchanged, where, in 180 days, it can be passed on a 50% +1 vote without the Senate's involvement. There are some Senators who realize the bill must be changed to be truly killed; either changed to the original amnesty, that excludes politicians, rally leaders, Thaksin, Abhisit, and Suthep, or be changed to a 'financial' bill that will force the PM to have to sign off on it (she has vowed to drop it). If he bill is changed, it will put the Lower House in a position of 'put up or shut up' as they will have to choose to drop it, as promised to the public. or resubmit a Thaksin favorable version, as promised to Thaksin. If the bill is passed it will go to the Constitutional Court and be decided there. I really don't believe the Army is even close to stepping in. It is early days yet with many opportunities to stop this 'blanket' amnesty. Be patient, make some more popcorn and enjoy to show.

Edited November 11, 2013 by rametindallas

[spirit47]

Maybe drugs or alcohol...

[Skywalker69]

You couldn't make this stuff up!

Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

Neither could Hollywood.

[jcb2001]

You mean a wanted criminal that fled the country when he realized he couldn't bribe his way out of a conviction, and didn't want to pay the penalty for the crime(s) he committed, now wants charges filed against other people, and probably expects that they should be found guilty and thrown into the same prison by the same justice system he himself refuses to comply with ?

It's almost scary to think that things could (easily) get much worse, in a very short amount of time.

They wouldn't be faced by the same justice system he faced, unless of course, the Military Junta from 2006 have expressed an interest in getting involved in libel cases..............

Brilliant comment !!!

[sms747]

He still dreams of control....a totally delusioned fool

Make your mind up, according to the mob on TV he still is in control, and gets the blame for everything,

[surangw]

liable as in liable to make the few remaining holdouts realize he is a crook.

[pookiki]

I think the law must be changed urgently. To press charges you must go personally to a police station would finish that nonsense that a criminal on the run sue other people for libel.

As far as I know that is already the law.

There are two different types of defamation/libel charges -- criminal and civil. I believe that Thaksin will be pressing civil charges. There was a presentation at the FCCT last week on Thailand's defamation and libel laws. Quite scary. The conviction rate for 'criminal' libel cases was over 97%!! To exonerate yourself from such charges, you must show that the statements were 'true' and in the 'public interest'.

[sustento]

Presumably he's going to pitch up and present his case in person?

[mrtoad]

Presumably he's going to pitch up and present his case in person?

Well, as a Caddy he should know all about pitching up.

[WhizBang]

Thaksin needs to get a life.

By that I mean, get used to NOT having Thailand in his life. He is not wanted here anymore, except by the red sycophants.

As a rule of thumb, in Thailand, the defamation/libel card is usually only played when the statements are true.

[AleG]

I think the law must be changed urgently. To press charges you must go personally to a police station would finish that nonsense that a criminal on the run sue other people for libel.

The truly ironic and pathetic thing is that the other corruption cases filed against Thaksin can´t progress because the defendant doesn´t show up in court, yet he can get people sued from afar. This system is bonkers and not by accident.

[Thainy Tim]

Thaksin has no hope for the courts to pick his case up. I don't know who is advising this childlike moron, but once again it is ill advice.

The courts are reserved for Thai citizens, and although Thaksin is a 'Thai national', the is not a 'Thai CITIZEN'. Big difference.

The only courts that can be utilised by a foreign entity such as him, are the commercial courts as seen in recent days by the Starbucks case.

[Thainy Tim]

You mean a wanted criminal that fled the country when he realized he couldn't bribe his way out of a conviction, and didn't want to pay the penalty for the crime(s) he committed, now wants charges filed against other people, and probably expects that they should be found guilty and thrown into the same prison by the same justice system he himself refuses to comply with ?

It's almost scary to think that things could (easily) get much worse, in a very short amount of time.

They wouldn't be faced by the same justice system he faced, unless of course, the Military Junta from 2006 have expressed an interest in getting involved in libel cases..............

Brilliant comment !!!

Yes he seems to come out with some real crackers, that are totally unrelated. Thaksin wasn't found guilty by a junta.... OMG!!! What drugs??

[hellodolly]

You mean a wanted criminal that fled the country when he realized he couldn't bribe his way out of a conviction, and didn't want to pay the penalty for the crime(s) he committed, now wants charges filed against other people, and probably expects that they should be found guilty and thrown into the same prison by the same justice system he himself refuses to comply with ?

It's almost scary to think that things could (easily) get much worse, in a very short amount of time.

They wouldn't be faced by the same justice system he faced, unless of course, the Military Junta from 2006 have expressed an interest in getting involved in libel cases..............

Nice try. It was his brother in laws corrupt government that convicted him.

Every time you try some thing stupid like this I think of

[hellodolly]

That temple, is well known for buying merit.

I have lots to spare do you really think they will buy it from me.

Sorry couldent resist.

[PeterSmiles]

Thaksin needs to get a life.

I have recently spoken with quite a few well educated Thai people who are actually of the opposite opinion.

[Thaddeus]

You mean a wanted criminal that fled the country when he realized he couldn't bribe his way out of a conviction, and didn't want to pay the penalty for the crime(s) he committed, now wants charges filed against other people, and probably expects that they should be found guilty and thrown into the same prison by the same justice system he himself refuses to comply with ?

It's almost scary to think that things could (easily) get much worse, in a very short amount of time.

They wouldn't be faced by the same justice system he faced, unless of course, the Military Junta from 2006 have expressed an interest in getting involved in libel cases..............

Nice try. It was his brother in laws corrupt government that convicted him.

Every time you try some thing stupid like this I think of

Forgive him Dolly, he knows not what he does.

[Misterwhisper]

It's amazing how easily this man is offended. One would think he'd have developed a thicker skin in the meantime. But then again, some people are very adept at dishing out, but incredibly sensitive when they're on the receiving end.

It's also very interesting that a convicted, fugitive felon, who has repeatedly said that Thailand's courts are biased and unfair still files law suits (it's not his first one, you know) from abroad with exactly those very same courts he seems to despise and mistrust so much.

If hypocrisy had a name, that name surely would begin with a "T".

[Misterwhisper]

If everyone was taken to court every time they said something libelous in public we'd all be in jail.

Or on the run.

Or in Dubai.

[JRSoul]

I think the law must be changed urgently. To press charges you must go personally to a police station would finish that nonsense that a criminal on the run sue other people for libel.

Not only should the law be changed urgently, it should include an amnesty for those wishing to file charges.

[lemoncake]

Hope the celebrity's, their lawyers and judges insist the accuser be present in court

[Emptyset]

Khun Thaksin: What about the lies repeated every day by your acolyte Jaturporn? What about your own lies on your Facebook page saying that you are in 'exile'? [self-exile perhaps, but not exile!]. What about all the lies your red shirts have said about Abihsit? Sadly, Thaksin won't read this post but my god! These people make you sick.

Huh? Why would Thaksin press defamation charges against Jatuporn for lies which weren't about him? That would be odd, and probably not in his best interests. Abhisit, on the other hand, felt Jatuporn had lied about him and so pressed defamation charges (three times in seperate cases I believe). PAD also filed a defamation charge against Jatuporn but the case was dismissed.

[slapout]

Since Thaksin was not physically in Thailand when the offense took place, maybe the prior legal precident will be used, to drop all proceedings.

[selftaopath]

Just to clarify the issue I looked at the definition of "Libel" which states:

libels plural

1. A published false statement that is damaging to a person's reputation

So if any PUBLISHED statement is true then there is no libel. Right? And if true accounts tarnish an individuals "reputation/standing" etc. then... too bad. Cause/effect/actions/consequences exist.

[JRSoul]

Just to clarify the issue I looked at the definition of "Libel" which states:

libels plural

1. A published false statement that is damaging to a person's reputation

So if any PUBLISHED statement is true then there is no libel. Right? And if true accounts tarnish an individuals "reputation/standing" etc. then... too bad. Cause/effect/actions/consequences exist.

The definition under Thai law may not be the same as a dictionary. And then the Thai law has to be interpreted by the police, and taken into account the wealth/power/influence of the perpetrator, as in Yingluk's 'perjury' case.

[EricBerg]

Looks a bit like the missunderstood fugitive is finally losing it. On the run for justice asking for justice.

[whybother]

You mean a wanted criminal that fled the country when he realized he couldn't bribe his way out of a conviction, and didn't want to pay the penalty for the crime(s) he committed, now wants charges filed against other people, and probably expects that they should be found guilty and thrown into the same prison by the same justice system he himself refuses to comply with ?

It's almost scary to think that things could (easily) get much worse, in a very short amount of time.

They wouldn't be faced by the same justice system he faced, unless of course, the Military Junta from 2006 have expressed an interest in getting involved in libel cases..............

The military junta didn't convict Thaksin. They set up a committee to investigate him. That results of the investigation were then presented to the courts by prosecutors, and in 2008, when Thaksin's brother in law was PM, the courts convicted him.