Protest leader Suthep declares Bangkok seizure after New Year

[JAG]

Many of the TV trolls hate Suthep. If you are one of them, please feel free to offer alternative ideas on how to rid Thailand of the Shin wannabe dictatorship.

An election.

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Goes against the principles of Suthep's faring sympathizers.

Can't have that.

Before you know it, those darkies from the North will be demanding they be treated fairly and be allowed to vote where they live and work.The current practice of denying people the right to register to vote where they live and work harkens back to the period in the US South and South Africa where large portions of the population were disenfranchised.

Most foreigners probably would be shocked to learn that hundreds of thousands of people are excluded from participating in their local elections. For example on Phuket, an estimated 300,000 cannot vote locally. Instead they must vote in their home provinces despite having lived on Phuket for some time. In other parliamentary democracies, voters can register to vote in their riding provided they have lived their a minimum time period such as 3 months. Not so in Thailand. Many workers cannot return to their home districts to vote, because of the expense, or because they cannot take time off work. They then lose their right to cast a ballot.

It's a nice way of disenfranchising a large segment of the population. The impact is that despite the sizeable numbers the PTP has garnered in the past, if a full right to vote practice was allowed, the numbers would be significantly larger.

Darkies??

An Ironical take on the way msny in Bangkok regard those from the North and North East I suspect.

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[DGIE]

"Protest leader Suthep declares Bangkok seizure after New Year"

I declare seizure of the north & south poles for England.

But you have not stated when will you seize North and South Poles. Suthep specified dates several times. I like specific person like Suthep

[templedog]

I am seriously thinking of deleting my Thaivisa account after reading all of the idiotic and ignorant posts here.

I mean, really people, most of you know jacksh#t about global politics yet you make Fox News type replies. Pathetic.

[Gone]

Democracy is a wonderful illusion in Thailand when it is the result of populist programs like the rice pledging scam paying too much, the first car rebate program and inferior tablets for children all paid for with the money of the next elected government and all of the people, including those who don't receive any of the benefits. Many/most Isaan Thais would vote for Kim Jun-un for a 500 baht "gift". The increased minimum wages have less value than before the increase. Inflation is soaring if you check what you actually pay instead of reading the government's reports. Food, petrol and electricity have all increased greatly. Many things that I regularly purchase have increased 30-50% in the last two years. The "high speed" (not bullet) train fiasco will bring huge rewards to those who are connected and place the country in a whole new super level of debt for the next 50 years. Yes democracy and mostly the result of a democratically bought election.

You are a fool if you think the Shins have any concern for the typical and poor Thai. The people are simply a steppingstone for their goals of more wealth and power. Suthep has distanced himself from the other political parties and that is good. He will go away after the Shins have been removed from power. Suthep is "over the top" at times, but the man is the only one with big enough balls to do what needs to be done to rid Thailand of the Shins and their self serving interests. If a military coup is needed to complete the task, then let it be.

I somehow don't think you have a clue what you are talking about.

Any government who gets in anywhere in the world is corrupt so where you think the Thais can find on here that would not be corrupt bewilders me.

At least with Thaksin he didn't try to hide being corrut. He would be the first to admit that he is/was BUT he still gave a lot to not only the people in the North but to all Thais. Lets just say his Internet satalite for instance and he strongly believed that without GOOD Internet that Thailand will fall behind which has happened since he was ousted. I have NEVER has decent internet in Thailand and if you don't think it is important these days then you are kidding yourself.

So the people have 2 choices:

1) A govenment that is corrupt but gives back to the people and especially the farmers who are the most important people in the world or

2) A government that won't admit they are corrupt, hides everything from the people and gives back absolutely ZERO to the people.

Not the best choices but true.

PS: I am not a supporter of either group however I do care about my existance here.

Edited December 28, 2013 by Gone

[1ma]

I am seriously thinking of deleting my Thaivisa account

[GazR]

I absolutely do not agree with Bangkok being held hostage. It's over the top. Peaceful protest is OK by me. Mind you once again I post on the subject that people

seem to pass by again and again. The reason they don't want elections with the biased system is here again:

Some people don't seem to understand why the Democrats and yellow shirts do NOT WANT elections right now. It is NOT because Suthep wants to control anything else but the WAY elections are being held. During the Mr. "T" regime the constituencies have been altered to fit the TRT party. Very large constituencies with large numbers of voters would give one party only one seat (These they changed and were Democratic strongholds) much smaller constituencies, with much fewer people were divided up in several constituencies with one seat each. This means that even when people did not vote a 100% for the TRT they would still have a "glorious victory" over the Democrats. It was all made to match the TRT.

In numbers: The TRT and Dems had respectively: 15,744,190 and 11,433,762 people vote for them. A difference in % of the population of resp. (TRT, Dems) 48.41% and 35.15%. (say 13%) This was NOT reflected in the seats in Parliament by the self dividing rule of the TRT who changed the constituencies. (TRT/ Dems) 265 seats against 159 seats or in seats 106 (!!). If this had been in the range of anything like 225 to 196 this would have been a fair and acceptable result. (the difference being about 13%) or in seats 29. Read that again: The difference in what would have been an acceptable and fair divide in seats was 29 but it became 106 !!! This would have allowed (just an example) the Democrats to team up with some other parties and still form a Government. Besides in the opposition it would have given them lots more control.

Then due to certain constituents differences it could have been anything in the range of 210 to 235 for the TRT and 190 to 220 for the Dems and it would be acceptable, justifiable and explainable.

NOW do we understand why this system is unacceptable and nothing near free and fair elections?

Mind you, I do not agree with an interim Government and all that, unless it would be an agreed upon (by both parties) Business Government to boost the country back on the map first. But that would demand restraint, patience and understanding. Values that are the foundation of Buddhism, but are hard to be found in politricks. All in all, I am NOT a Suthep supporter. But fairness needs to be in place before an election is being held and the Shins can claim another

fake victory bought with money and bending the rules.

The democrats under Abhisit Vejjajiva were in Power for 2 years and 239 day if the system is so unfair as you describe why he and his party did not make the changes. They did not do any changes at all. Therefore don't blame it to the Shins.

Rome wasn't built in a day, nor is there much in the way of magic dust: Real education reforms and real rice payment reforms aimed at making those parts of the system better serve the citizens of Thailand were of course reversed (and made sillier) by Thaksin as part of his effort to demonize Abhisit in order to forestall calm, rational policy discussion. Do you support that ?

[williamta20012]

im not sure whats going on here sry but I know two things

the rice subsidies are a scam, if people are not buying your rice the GROW something else, don't force people to buy it using the state

Secondly it does not matter who is in the govt an extremely low baht is extremely inflationary, long story

third point is that these red shirts are are normally always the product of some evil sod in another country looking to secure a monopoly

Edited December 28, 2013 by williamta20012

[jackrich]

However, Mr Suthep also said that if there were any people in Bangkok who were concerned about the situation, they should stay in other provinces for the time being.

Will Mr. Suthep pay for the hotel stay?

[ratcatcher]

I am seriously thinking of deleting my Thaivisa account after reading all of the idiotic and ignorant posts here.

I mean, really people, most of you know jacksh#t about global politics yet you make Fox News type replies. Pathetic.

And Suthep is seriously thinking of deleting Thaksin. How are you doing templedog, still with us?

BTW, I don't know Jack Schitt, but am familiar with his parents Awe Schitt and O.Schitt.

For those still unfamiliar with this famous family, see here: http://mistupid.com/jokes/page077.htm

[GazR]

Democracy is a wonderful illusion in Thailand when it is the result of populist programs like the rice pledging scam paying too much, the first car rebate program and inferior tablets for children all paid for with the money of the next elected government and all of the people, including those who don't receive any of the benefits. Many/most Isaan Thais would vote for Kim Jun-un for a 500 baht "gift". The increased minimum wages have less value than before the increase. Inflation is soaring if you check what you actually pay instead of reading the government's reports. Food, petrol and electricity have all increased greatly. Many things that I regularly purchase have increased 30-50% in the last two years. The "high speed" (not bullet) train fiasco will bring huge rewards to those who are connected and place the country in a whole new super level of debt for the next 50 years. Yes democracy and mostly the result of a democratically bought election.

You are a fool if you think the Shins have any concern for the typical and poor Thai. The people are simply a steppingstone for their goals of more wealth and power. Suthep has distanced himself from the other political parties and that is good. He will go away after the Shins have been removed from power. Suthep is "over the top" at times, but the man is the only one with big enough balls to do what needs to be done to rid Thailand of the Shins and their self serving interests. If a military coup is needed to complete the task, then let it be.

I somehow don't think you have a clue what you are talking about.

Any government who gets in anywhere in the world is corrupt so where you think the Thais can find on here that would not be corrupt bewilders me.

At least with Thaksin he didn't try to hide being corrut. He would be the first to admit that he is/was BUT he still gave a lot to not only the people in the North but to all Thais. Lets just say his Internet satalite for instance and he strongly believed that without GOOD Internet that Thailand will fall behind which has happened since he was ousted. I have NEVER has decent internet in Thailand and if you don't think it is important these days then you are kidding yourself.

So the people have 2 choices:

1) A govenment that is corrupt but gives back to the people and especially the farmers who are the most important people in the world or

2) A government that won't admit they are corrupt, hides everything from the people and gives back absolutely ZERO to the people.

Not the best choices but true.

PS: I am not a supporter of either group however I do care about my existance here.

Re "Thaksin would be the first to admit he was corrupt." LOL - Sorry dude, but that's gotta be the dumbest comment of the year.

After 70 years of UNBROKEN POLITICAL OPPRESSION by ruling elites, IT'S TIME FOR CHANGE.

Edited December 28, 2013 by GazR

[brit1984]

Democracy is a wonderful illusion in Thailand when it is the result of populist programs like the rice pledging scam paying too much, the first car rebate program and inferior tablets for children all paid for with the money of the next elected government and all of the people, including those who don't receive any of the benefits. Many/most Isaan Thais would vote for Kim Jun-un for a 500 baht "gift". The increased minimum wages have less value than before the increase. Inflation is soaring if you check what you actually pay instead of reading the government's reports. Food, petrol and electricity have all increased greatly. Many things that I regularly purchase have increased 30-50% in the last two years. The "high speed" (not bullet) train fiasco will bring huge rewards to those who are connected and place the country in a whole new super level of debt for the next 50 years. Yes democracy and mostly the result of a democratically bought election.

You are a fool if you think the Shins have any concern for the typical and poor Thai. The people are simply a steppingstone for their goals of more wealth and power. Suthep has distanced himself from the other political parties and that is good. He will go away after the Shins have been removed from power. Suthep is "over the top" at times, but the man is the only one with big enough balls to do what needs to be done to rid Thailand of the Shins and their self serving interests. If a military coup is needed to complete the task, then let it be.

I somehow don't think you have a clue what you are talking about.

Any government who gets in anywhere in the world is corrupt so where you think the Thais can find on here that would not be corrupt bewilders me.

At least with Thaksin he didn't try to hide being corrut. He would be the first to admit that he is/was BUT he still gave a lot to not only the people in the North but to all Thais. Lets just say his Internet satalite for instance and he strongly believed that without GOOD Internet that Thailand will fall behind which has happened since he was ousted. I have NEVER has decent internet in Thailand and if you don't think it is important these days then you are kidding yourself.

So the people have 2 choices:

1) A govenment that is corrupt but gives back to the people and especially the farmers who are the most important people in the world or

2) A government that won't admit they are corrupt, hides everything from the people and gives back absolutely ZERO to the people.

Not the best choices but true.

PS: I am not a supporter of either group however I do care about my existance here.

Re "Thaksin would be the first to admit he was corrupt." LOL - Sorry dude, but that's gotta be the dumbest comment of the year.

After 70 years of UNBROKEN POLITICAL OPPRESSION by ruling elites, IT'S TIME FOR CHANGE.

such a change would be nice but it's not on the agenda of either side

however, if you vote for yingluck she'll give you 500B and if you die for suthep he'll give your family 1MB

so no need to feel totally disenfranchised (or oppressed)

[ikke]

Surely the ordinary middle-class workers who went along with the peaceful protests will be reeling with how this is turning out. Violent, murderous mobs roaming the streets.

2010 all over again eh?

NO, 2010 was fighting a NON-Elected, Undemocratic government, the red's fighting for democracy , but now it is the other way around, the yellows fighting for dictatorship.

If you still agree with this Adolf look a like, you better go live in N-Korea.

[DK2223]

Democracy is a wonderful illusion in Thailand when it is the result of populist programs like the rice pledging scam paying too much, the first car rebate program and inferior tablets for children all paid for with the money of the next elected government and all of the people, including those who don't receive any of the benefits. Many/most Isaan Thais would vote for Kim Jun-un for a 500 baht "gift". The increased minimum wages have less value than before the increase. Inflation is soaring if you check what you actually pay instead of reading the government's reports. Food, petrol and electricity have all increased greatly. Many things that I regularly purchase have increased 30-50% in the last two years. The "high speed" (not bullet) train fiasco will bring huge rewards to those who are connected and place the country in a whole new super level of debt for the next 50 years. Yes democracy and mostly the result of a democratically bought election.

You are a fool if you think the Shins have any concern for the typical and poor Thai. The people are simply a steppingstone for their goals of more wealth and power. Suthep has distanced himself from the other political parties and that is good. He will go away after the Shins have been removed from power. Suthep is "over the top" at times, but the man is the only one with big enough balls to do what needs to be done to rid Thailand of the Shins and their self serving interests. If a military coup is needed to complete the task, then let it be.

I somehow don't think you have a clue what you are talking about.

Any government who gets in anywhere in the world is corrupt so where you think the Thais can find on here that would not be corrupt bewilders me.

At least with Thaksin he didn't try to hide being corrut. He would be the first to admit that he is/was BUT he still gave a lot to not only the people in the North but to all Thais. Lets just say his Internet satalite for instance and he strongly believed that without GOOD Internet that Thailand will fall behind which has happened since he was ousted. I have NEVER has decent internet in Thailand and if you don't think it is important these days then you are kidding yourself.

So the people have 2 choices:

1) A govenment that is corrupt but gives back to the people and especially the farmers who are the most important people in the world or

2) A government that won't admit they are corrupt, hides everything from the people and gives back absolutely ZERO to the people.

Not the best choices but true.

PS: I am not a supporter of either group however I do care about my existance here.

Re "Thaksin would be the first to admit he was corrupt." LOL - Sorry dude, but that's gotta be the dumbest comment of the year.

After 70 years of UNBROKEN POLITICAL OPPRESSION by ruling elites, IT'S TIME FOR CHANGE.

What change? How to change? A change is really a good thing but not with the situation now.

Real change is needed but not by "Kill a Lion and putting a Tiger in the same cage with the sheep" it will be the same result.

[ikke]

"Protest leader Suthep declares Bangkok seizure after New Year"

I declare seizure of the north & south poles for England.

But you have not stated when will you seize North and South Poles. Suthep specified dates several times. I like specific person like Suthep

If you really like Suthep, please go live in a communist country and leave us in peace with the majority of Thai people.

[williamta20012]

explain to me how stealing money off people and giving to other people is a gift or a benefit

excuse me while I make a few preparation for a bond market collapse

[newcomer71]

And also this evening he put on the usual show with the usual people-fueling rant. Awesomely dangerous and inept.

[onflipflops]

I absolutely do not agree with Bangkok being held hostage. It's over the top. Peaceful protest is OK by me. Mind you once again I post on the subject that people

seem to pass by again and again. The reason they don't want elections with the biased system is here again:

Some people don't seem to understand why the Democrats and yellow shirts do NOT WANT elections right now. It is NOT because Suthep wants to control anything else but the WAY elections are being held. During the Mr. "T" regime the constituencies have been altered to fit the TRT party. Very large constituencies with large numbers of voters would give one party only one seat (These they changed and were Democratic strongholds) much smaller constituencies, with much fewer people were divided up in several constituencies with one seat each. This means that even when people did not vote a 100% for the TRT they would still have a "glorious victory" over the Democrats. It was all made to match the TRT.

In numbers: The TRT and Dems had respectively: 15,744,190 and 11,433,762 people vote for them. A difference in % of the population of resp. (TRT, Dems) 48.41% and 35.15%. (say 13%) This was NOT reflected in the seats in Parliament by the self dividing rule of the TRT who changed the constituencies. (TRT/ Dems) 265 seats against 159 seats or in seats 106 (!!). If this had been in the range of anything like 225 to 196 this would have been a fair and acceptable result. (the difference being about 13%) or in seats 29. Read that again: The difference in what would have been an acceptable and fair divide in seats was 29 but it became 106 !!! This would have allowed (just an example) the Democrats to team up with some other parties and still form a Government. Besides in the opposition it would have given them lots more control.

Then due to certain constituents differences it could have been anything in the range of 210 to 235 for the TRT and 190 to 220 for the Dems and it would be acceptable, justifiable and explainable.

NOW do we understand why this system is unacceptable and nothing near free and fair elections?

Mind you, I do not agree with an interim Government and all that, unless it would be an agreed upon (by both parties) Business Government to boost the country back on the map first. But that would demand restraint, patience and understanding. Values that are the foundation of Buddhism, but are hard to be found in politricks. All in all, I am NOT a Suthep supporter. But fairness needs to be in place before an election is being held and the Shins can claim another

fake victory bought with money and bending the rules.

Let me start to say I have a total lack of knowledge about politics.

But I did not understand your maths... maybe because I don't understand politics.

I find your post very interesting though. And I can't understand why I only find out about this through your post. Why isn't a person like Suthep explaining why the seats are not divided properly? Or did I miss that part...

But anyway, based on the percentages you mentioned: 48.41% TRT to 35.15% DEMS I would say the difference in seats should be about 66. Indeed not 106 but neither 29...

If I understand my google search results correctly Thailand has 500 seats to divide.

48.41 % would mean about 242 Seats for TRT

35.15 % would mean about 176 Seats for DEMS

Difference of 66 Seats

Please, explain me if I'm wrong.

That's as far as my Maths go. It still means the current situation doesn't seem to be correct.

Anyway I'm on neither side. To me both sides seem bad, but I think that's inherent to politics anywhere in the world. It's extremely rare to see good people get into politics. Only people that love power/ money seem to go for it. Not strange, you'll need a large budget to explain the people about your ideas (not that they explain anything in Thailand, except telling the 'other' party is bad), only the richest can get that far. And who would want to throw away a lot of money on a compaign, if winning the elections would not return the money you spent on getting elected... ?

As some other poster mentioned, all this protesting seem to be a bit over the top for a country like Thailand. It's not the Middle-East.

It's 'only' about getting a corrupt family out of politics. But sadly, we all know that nothing changes when the opposition comes to power, except that their bank accounts instead of those of the current ruling family will prosper...

[JohnP1752]

Sadly it looks like there is very little leadership coming from the elected government, so this mad man just keeps going, almost completely unchallenged by anyone, except TV and some International media maybe. You can't say anything in the office for fear of being yelled down in a crazy and hateful attack of absolute facist propoganda, to many little Sutheps.

Thailand desperately needs some honest strong leaders, although there doesn't seem to be anyone out there. They are all crooks and phonies, even down to the local councils. Look at the corruption in all the tourist areas as an example.

Give it a hundred years or so and it should sort itself out.

[dcutman]

Many of the TV trolls hate Suthep. If you are one of them, please feel free to offer alternative ideas on how to rid Thailand of the Shin wannabe dictatorship.

An election.

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Goes against the principles of Suthep's faring sympathizers.

Can't have that.

Before you know it, those darkies from the North will be demanding they be treated fairly and be allowed to vote where they live and work.The current practice of denying people the right to register to vote where they live and work harkens back to the period in the US South and South Africa where large portions of the population were disenfranchised.

Most foreigners probably would be shocked to learn that hundreds of thousands of people are excluded from participating in their local elections. For example on Phuket, an estimated 300,000 cannot vote locally. Instead they must vote in their home provinces despite having lived on Phuket for some time. In other parliamentary democracies, voters can register to vote in their riding provided they have lived their a minimum time period such as 3 months. Not so in Thailand. Many workers cannot return to their home districts to vote, because of the expense, or because they cannot take time off work. They then lose their right to cast a ballot.

It's a nice way of disenfranchising a large segment of the population. The impact is that despite the sizeable numbers the PTP has garnered in the past, if a full right to vote practice was allowed, the numbers would be significantly larger.

This was explained to you a couple of times before GK.

But you continue to spew this nonsense about how people cannot vote because they work outside where they once lived.

It is quite simple, when you move you go to the local office with your house book and register in that local. This gives the right to vote,and takes a very short time depending on how many people are queued up in front of you.

I am sure the process here is no different than whatever country you come from.

So please just stop your BS.

[williamta20012]

Many of the TV trolls hate Suthep. If you are one of them, please feel free to offer alternative ideas on how to rid Thailand of the Shin wannabe dictatorship.

An election.

Sent from my GT-I9300 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

Goes against the principles of Suthep's faring sympathizers.

Can't have that.

Before you know it, those darkies from the North will be demanding they be treated fairly and be allowed to vote where they live and work.The current practice of denying people the right to register to vote where they live and work harkens back to the period in the US South and South Africa where large portions of the population were disenfranchised.

Most foreigners probably would be shocked to learn that hundreds of thousands of people are excluded from participating in their local elections. For example on Phuket, an estimated 300,000 cannot vote locally. Instead they must vote in their home provinces despite having lived on Phuket for some time. In other parliamentary democracies, voters can register to vote in their riding provided they have lived their a minimum time period such as 3 months. Not so in Thailand. Many workers cannot return to their home districts to vote, because of the expense, or because they cannot take time off work. They then lose their right to cast a ballot.

It's a nice way of disenfranchising a large segment of the population. The impact is that despite the sizeable numbers the PTP has garnered in the past, if a full right to vote practice was allowed, the numbers would be significantly larger.

This was explained to you a couple of times before GK.

But you continue to spew this nonsense about how people cannot vote because they work outside where they once lived.

It is quite simple, when you move you go to the local office with your house book and register in that local. This gives the right to vote,and takes a very short time depending on how many people are queued up in front of you.

I am sure the process here is no different than whatever country you come from.

So please just stop your BS.

the oldest problem our human history has struggled with

if you want to get rid of them

STOP USING THEIR COUNTERFEIT PAPER MONEY YOU STUPID STUPID DUMB FOOOOOLS

[Cnxforever]

Is somebody REALLY in the know about house registration/voter registration in this country?

Please post!!!

I understand, may people, for example construction workers who are only temprary in BKK before going back to the farm, cannot vote in BKK because they are not registered in the shack on the construction site.

How long do you have to be registered in a new residence before you can vote there??

Is there a voter registration (US - style) in LOS??

Is it mandatory to get registered and change your ID card after having moved to another province??

If you have children of school age, do you have to register yourself in the town where they go to school???

Thanks for enlightening me!

In Thailand you are registered where ever your "real" home is.

Meaning you are a resident of where ever your Tabian Baan - or house registration says. Also the Thai national ID card states your hometown as to where you are registered - and not where you actually live since most migrant workers live in rented places. Some Thais spent all their life living and working in Bangkok but are not Bangkok residents.

Meaning that millions of Thais who work in Bangkok or other places in the Kingdom away from home - and most can of course not afford to buy property close to their work place in order to register a new home on a new Tabian Baan.

They can only vote in the district where there Tabian Baan / ID says they are registered.

If you can not afford to go home - or can not get time off for elections you can not vote!

This is why certain countries hold elections always on a Sunday and in some countries it is compulsory to participate in parliamentary elections to make sure all citizens are exercising their duty to vote - employers have to give time off to travel home and vote - or if impossible to return to vote by sealed official letter for citizens who reside abroad for example.

Aslo in my home country you have to register where ever you really reside after a period of 2 weeks and not your hometown - even if you live in a rented property you have to register within 2 weeks at your new address. This is also important for the city / town you are moving to as they get a certain amount of tax money per resident from the national budget.

[wellred]

Will the government let this happen? Surely it's time for the Army to just step in now put a stop to all this?

[Sunisalom]

Old Musso's in top form today! Stand by for the Blitzkrieg you lucky Bangkok people! He did let slip that his mob are being backed and financed by big business, not suprising in this land of unfettered monopolies and cartels all enriching themselves at the public expense.

Will be interesting to hear the squeels from the "hi-so" expats working for big International companies when their phone lines and power are turned off by the mob. They might be posted to Singapore and lose all that cheap sex that makes BKK so appealling to them!

What a crass, ignorant post or maybe your just jealous of expats who can actually find a decent job over here. Many of us have families over here and a vested interest in the country.

You seem to think it's quite funny how Suthep and his followers are tearing the capital apart.

And what exactly is your vestment in this country, that you cannot obtain back home, or choose to lay as some grand foundation of your presence here?

Define a decent job for expats here, if you would care to.

Many of us have decent jobs, as you desire to extravagantly insinuate that we don't, and we also have families.

However, none of us are Thai. Tearing the capital apart, as you again insinuate as being another bad thing, may well just be the best thing that has happened to this country, and for many a year. Then again, I am not as much a judge as you pertain to be. What I do know is that more Thais, than I care to know, are vehemently in support of the current chaos.

What say ye?

-mel.

[mumjokmok]

Will the government let this happen? Surely it's time for the Army to just step in now put a stop to all this?

What if the army puts a stop to it after two months of camping. Gotta be fair's fair, can't just have a few days of smashing, they need time to build their own barracks out of tyres, sharpen spears, really get their message across. Can't possibly be seen as a democratic process if the other side is denied the right to have a big street fair. I wonder if they will have souvenirs for sale like the Reds had at Ratchaprasong?

[paz]

What I do know is that more Thais, than I care to know, are vehemently in support of the current chaos.

More Thais "that you care to know" *, maybe. The majority, surely not.

By definition decision by majority is democracy. If you don't like that, say it openly: "I oppose democracy".

* A non-numeric condescending defiintion of an indefinite quantity

[tilac2]

Maybe we'd agree with you, but what or who are you talking about?

When is someone going to kick this batshit crazy in the nuts and shove him to the curb? This whack job is a textbook megalomaniac. I simply can not understand the mentality of those who back him. Granted, Thailand is in serious need of political and bureaucratic reform, but this guy? Is this the best they can do???

[paz]

Will the government let this happen? Surely it's time for the Army to just step in now put a stop to all this?

Not the time yet. Will be around failed election time. Because even 53 if political parties will participate, the strongest oppositon one will not, effectively voting for dictatorship.

Edited December 28, 2013 by paz

[wellred]

Will the government let this happen? Surely it's time for the Army to just step in now put a stop to all this?

Not the time yet. Will be around failed election time. Because 53 political parties have voted already for dictatorship.

So you think the government will let them bring the city to a standstill for a month?

[bunny11kk]

Many of the TV trolls hate Suthep. If you are one of them, please feel free to offer alternative ideas on how to rid Thailand of the Shin wannabe dictatorship.

There is no Shin dictatorship. There is a party where they happen to have key members that keep winning elections. Elections where everyone with voting rights can participate. Elections that even Korn admited vote buying no longer where a real issue.

PT won last time because men like Suthep pissed off huge numbers of their voting. Democrats (and Newin) probably saved PT billions of baht during the last election. And you can bet your ass the the last two months have done nothing to vote less polarized.

Half the senate is not elected. That is where any reform should start. Its not what this "The people" group want, but its what the majority of thai votes will vote for if asked.

No Shin dictatorship! Only Surthep dictatorship ! Lie a million times is still a lie and many people knows that. Let's see how Thai goes from here.

[Tywais]

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