Nuttawut: Red shirts not to confront PDRC-led protesters

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POLITICS
Red shirts won't confront PDRC-led protesters: Nuttawut
The Nation

BANGKOK: -- Red-shirt demonstrators will not confront anti-government protesters on January 13, caretaker Deputy Commerce Minister and red-shirt leader Nuttawut Saikuar said Friday.

He said the rallies of the red shirts on January 13 would be held in many provinces, but not in Bangkok and its adjacent provinces.

To avoid confrontations with supporters of the People's Democratic Reform Committee, the red shirts will not rally in the southern provinces either, Nuttawut added.

He said the rallies would be held simultaneously at 9am at important venues in the provinces and on main roads. The rallies are being held to oppose a coup and to express support for the February 2 election.

The campaigns would have as their slogan "introducing the real owners of the ruling mandate and opening the door to the election", Nuttawut said.

In the evening, there will be panel discussions at three stages in the North, the Northeast and the Central region. Participants will include academics, representatives of selected professions and famous individuals from various walks of life as well as pro-democracy fighters and politicians, he added.

Jatuporn Promphan, a red-shirt leader, said the people who are against the planned Bangkok shutdown by the PDRC should come out to join the rallies


-- The Nation 2014-01-03

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UDD asks supporters to join anti-coup mass rally in all provinces but Bangkok, adjacent provinces, to support Feb 2 poll; to counter city shutdown Jan 13 /MCOT

[MunterHunter]

Guess the Reds will shut down the rest of Thailand whilst Sutheps mob will close down Bangkok... result!

[noikrit]

Doesn't anybody work anymore ??? ..... I guess not ..

[mumjokmok]

Not at all misleading was Jatuporn's statement? I thought they were gonna try do a Gandhi at the feet of baying yellow protesters by the sound of yesterday's article.

Given the Obama/ Egypt "democracy is as democracy does" article today me thinks they all have to go and show their support base in each constituency, rather than a big punch up in the city to try and break the road accidents statistic.

At least if they do that there may be some clarity as to who wants what where?

Ironically then at least whatever gets smashed guarantees (maybe) that the money that must be then spent on rebuilding goes back into your own community....

[dinom]

Problems with the travel expenses for red shirt supporters to keep Bangkok open by going there?

[oldthaihand99]

Doesn't anybody work anymore ??? ..... I guess not ..

From my observations in Nana BKK a lot of people take Mondays off.

Rally to start at 9 AM,,,for how long?

[HiSoLowSoNoSo]

I assume they got a call from Army to cancel their Jan 13 confrontation in Bangkok, or why suddenly this flip flopping?

[bunny11kk]

Guess the Reds will shut down the rest of Thailand whilst Sutheps mob will close down Bangkok... result!

The rat shirt please come to shut down Phuket, we have too many Russians and Mainland Chinese here!

[Thailand]

Bad news for Suthep if the reds actually do that and avoid confrontation he won't have the violence he needs.

[ChrisY1]

Nuttawat...another brainless dolt trying to keep his name in the press for the sake of pretending to do something worthwhile.....

Sure...the reds are going to be lame horn blowers....I think they've lost their punch now......just not being paid enough!

[Local Drunk]

Bad news for Suthep if the reds actually do that and avoid confrontation he won't have the violence he needs.

Absurd assumption. He doesn't need or want violence and neither do the protesters.

[ramrod711]

To avoid confrontations with supporters of the People's Democratic Reform Committee, the red shirts will not rally in the southern provinces either, Nuttawut added.

This would be a very good idea, wearing a red shirt in the south would probably get you lynched, never mind actually protesting.

[Thailand]

Bad news for Suthep if the reds actually do that and avoid confrontation he won't have the violence he needs.

You've posted a lot of dumbass stuff but I think this counts as one of the dumbest. No one wants any violence and everyone on both sides of this conflict is breathing a sigh of relief that there probably won't be a confrontation.

Glad you appreciate my contribution.

If you don't understand that Suthep needs confrontation to bring in the troops then where have you been? The military have basically said they will intervene if any occurs.

I believe the reds may have made a good move, not going at all would have been better, and I sincerely hope that everything goes off peacefully and nobody gets hurt.

Whatever happens it will only be the old cycles of Thailand repeating itself and it will achieve exactly the same results as in the past. Back to square one.

Edited January 3, 2014 by Thailand

[spare5]

It is about to split the country into 2.

It is better to split it now, before the civil war.

Or have a 20 years civil war and loose 5 million people first than spit the country.

[ramrod711]

Problems with the travel expenses for red shirt supporters to keep Bangkok open by going there?

Perhaps Arisman could fly them down on one of his mysteriously funded passenger jets.

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UDD asks supporters to join nationwide Jan 13 anti-coup mass rally
By English News



BANGKOK, Jan 3 - The pro-government United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD), the Red Shirt movement, today announced its anti-coup campaign across the country for January 13, the same day as the anti-government group plans to shut down the capital to oust the caretaker government.

UDD key leader Nattawut Saikua asked Red Shirt supporters who are against shutting down the capital by the People’s Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC) led by former deputy premier and Democrat MP for Surat Thani Suthep Thaugsuban to show their purpose and join the UDD mass rally on January 13 at 9am in every province--except Bangkok, Nonthaburi, Pathum Thani and Samut Prakan. But people in these provinces are invited to join the rally in other provinces.

He said the UDD campaign is meant to support the February 2 general election. He pledged that the rally will be peaceful and avoid any confrontations.

Mr Natthawut urged those who join the rally to not put on red shirts as the campaign will be driven by eligible voters wanting to cast their votes. He also invited pro-election elements to come out to make their voices heard.

For the southern region which is a stronghold of the opposition Democrat Party, Mr Nattawut said local residents will assess the situation as to whether or not to organise the January 13 rally for their own safety.

After the rally day, the UDD leader said the protesters can return home and follow the group's main rally stages in three regions - North, Central and Northeast - via 24-hour live broadcast in six satellite channels.

He said the group will also hand in letters to foreign embassies and international human rights body to clarify its move which opposes to the people's assembly proposed by Mr Suthep.

"No one has ever dared to challenge the people's power as Mr Suthep does today," Mr Nattawut said, describing the PDRC head's action as a "move which is not different from a coup. No matter you are a Red Shirt or not, no matter which party you support, we urge all of you to join the anti-coup movement."

"We want to announce that we are now ready to let the world know that our country wants the election to be held and is against all forms of coups," he said. (MCOT online news)


-- TNA 2014-01-03

[scorecard]

^{Yeah that's right, ignore the reason for the anti-govt. protests and spin it all to look like a coup is imminent and the military will be a nasty dictator, and the reds are the white knights of anti-coup.}

^{Words / phrases like: false, spin, immoral, highly manipulative come to mind.}

Edited January 3, 2014 by scorecard

[Bluespunk]

"He said the rallies of the red shirts on January 13 would be held in many provinces, but not in Bangkok and its adjacent provinces."

I hate to say this, but this bully boy thug is actually doing the right thing.

[mumjokmok]

Guess the Reds will shut down the rest of Thailand whilst Sutheps mob will close down Bangkok... result!

The rat shirt please come to shut down Phuket, we have too many Russians and Mainland Chinese here!

Do you suspect these groups would fight each other?

[jayboy]

Bad news for Suthep if the reds actually do that and avoid confrontation he won't have the violence he needs.

You've posted a lot of dumbass stuff but I think this counts as one of the dumbest. No one wants any violence and everyone on both sides of this conflict is breathing a sigh of relief that there probably won't be a confrontation.

You are seriously naive if you believe Suthep (and equally importantly his backers) would not like to see the government/security forces crack down violently, not least because it would allow the army/directed judges to step in and remove the Yingluck government.Unfortunately for them the government has been very patient and has won international approval for its approach.

[TVGerry]

Bad news for Suthep if the reds actually do that and avoid confrontation he won't have the violence he needs.

You've posted a lot of dumbass stuff but I think this counts as one of the dumbest. No one wants any violence and everyone on both sides of this conflict is breathing a sigh of relief that there probably won't be a confrontation.

You are seriously naive if you believe Suthep (and equally importantly his backers) would not like to see the government/security forces crack down violently, not least because it would allow the army/directed judges to step in and remove the Yingluck government.Unfortunately for them the government has been very patient and has won international approval for its approach.

The government is being 'patient' because they have no choice, the army won't back them. They have already said they 'would stand on the side of the people' if the police cracked down on the protestors.

[Cuchulainn]

.................Mr Natthawut urged those who join the rally to not put on red shirts.........................

So all the by-standers, rubber-neckers, passers by and onlookers on will be counted as part of the rent a mob.

[bunny11kk]

.................Mr Natthawut urged those who join the rally to not put on red shirts.........................

So all the by-standers, rubber-neckers, passers by and onlookers on will be counted as part of the rent a mob.

The middle men can pocket in a lot more from the big boss from Dubai this way. Smart move.

[dinom]

Quote: Mr Natthawut urged those who join the rally to not put on red shirts as the campaign will be driven by eligible voters wanting to cast their votes.

Does that mean the days of the red shirts movement are finally over?

[bunny11kk]

Guess the Reds will shut down the rest of Thailand whilst Sutheps mob will close down Bangkok... result!

The rat shirt please come to shut down Phuket, we have too many Russians and Mainland Chinese here!

Do you suspect these groups would fight each other?

No, the fact is that these two groups do not usually care about any other people and that's the problem!

[rubl]

K. Jatuporn will be somewhat disappointed, he wanted to keep Bangkok open.

BTW to drop those letters at Embassies ar least some people need to come to Bangkok I would imagine?

[jayboy]

Bad news for Suthep if the reds actually do that and avoid confrontation he won't have the violence he needs.

You've posted a lot of dumbass stuff but I think this counts as one of the dumbest. No one wants any violence and everyone on both sides of this conflict is breathing a sigh of relief that there probably won't be a confrontation.

You are seriously naive if you believe Suthep (and equally importantly his backers) would not like to see the government/security forces crack down violently, not least because it would allow the army/directed judges to step in and remove the Yingluck government.Unfortunately for them the government has been very patient and has won international approval for its approach.

The government is being 'patient' because they have no choice, the army won't back them. They have already said they 'would stand on the side of the people' if the police cracked down on the protestors.

I don't think the army chiefs have quite said that though I agree their sympathies are with the protests.But even accepting your hypothesis that the government has no choice but to be conciliatory, that surely represents progress of sorts in the way political disputes are handled in Thailand.Equally I'm not sure the army has much choice but to be restrained given the disastrous experience during the last major Bangkok political protest under Abhisit.This is far from being a criticism of the army or the current government; they may have little choice but they are also (so far) being smart.

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[metisdead]

Inflammatory posts and insulting posts and replies have been removed. If you cannot name the PM or people people and use nonsense nicknames instead, your posts will disappear. If you do not want your post to disappear, spell people's names properly.

[soi41]

Instead of repeating the usual rhetorical posts from either side of the divide, let us be happy that there will hopefully and probably be no confrontation!

Whatever the reason for the reds change of mind really doesn't matter, as long as people will not get killed on the streers of Bangkok!

Maybe there is a small hope afterall??