Thai anti-graft panel to probe PM Yingluck

[waza]

More robbing Peter to pay Paul, they will take budgeted funds from the State enterprises and use it to fund the rice scam.

What are the state enterprises?

State Enterprises of the Kingdom of Thailand List of Thailand's State Enterprises.

State Owned Enterprises (SOEs) of Thailand.

"The developing SOEs performance has become one of economic development strategy as a substantial provider for the fundamental economic infrastructure in order to regain the prosperity of Thai economy, to contribute the competitiveness for private sector and to ensure the sustainable in Thai economy."

http://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/thai-state-enterprises.htm

[newcomer71]

Well done. An investigation is more than needed.

Sure they could have been quicker and avoid such a big loss...

[djjamie]

I am starting to understand why Yaowapa Wongsawat (the ugly duckling of the Shinawatra clan) is being so quite. One can only assume after the usual and predictable corruption cases against Yingluck and her MP's that will no doubt prove them guilty, in will come Yaowapa, innocent….Well after her 5 year political ban. Those Shinawatra's just can't keep out of trouble. I can imagine after Yinglucks 5 year ban Yaowapa will be proven corrupt and in will walk Yingluck again. Couple of years later another ban for her and Thaksin's son will be the next PM.

So in summary, Thaksin is a convicted fugitive on the run overseas. His sister is facing corruption charges. His other sister was banned for 5 years from politics. The other sisters husband found guilty of neglecting his duties after….surprise surprise, suspending a corruption investigation into two senior officials while he was a permanent secretary at the justice ministry. That corruption word seems to come up in every Shinawatra case.

Apparently though the Shinawatra's are clean as a PRDC whistle though and have never done anything wrong. It is a bigger conspiracy than the fake moon landing.

And people still think an elected senate is more democratic. All it will do increase the amount of corruption cases against The Shinawatra's drivers, maids, secretaries, doormen, butlers, shoe shiners etc etc etc.

They found the weakness in Thai democracy and are abusing it. They don't even care if they stay in power long enough to abuse it. There is another Shinawatra that will step up to replace the last one.

Elections. Great. Focus on post ballot box muppets. Elections only allow a govt to prove it is democratic. PTP have failed.

Edited January 16, 2014 by metisdead
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[FangFerang]

What has reforming the senate to make it more democratic got to do with the anti-corruption commission? The institutions set up by the military in 2006 are planning another judicial coup to make Thailand ungovernable by anyone except their boys.

By democratic law the senate is without party influence, maybe you should read a bit more

By democratic law the senate is supposed to be without party influence. The reality is something else entirely....

[ChrisY1]

Don't know why they havn't approached the last Commerce Minister, K. Boonsong, to find out where all the monies gone....I'm sure he may have some idea!

[FangFerang]

I am starting to understand why Yaowapa Wongsawat (the ugly duckling of the Shinawatra clan) is being so quite. One can only assume after the usual and predictable corruption cases against Yingluck and her MP's that will no doubt prove them guilty, in will come Yaowapa, innocent….Well after her 5 year political ban. Those Shinawatra's just can't keep out of trouble. I can imagine after Yinglucks 5 year ban Yaowapa will be proven corrupt and in will walk Yingluck again. Couple of years later another ban for her and Thaksin's son will be the next PM.

So in summary, Thaksin is a convicted fugitive on the run overseas. His sister is facing corruption charges. His other sister was banned for 5 years from politics. The other sisters husband found guilty of neglecting his duties after….surprise surprise, suspending a corruption investigation into two senior officials while he was a permanent secretary at the justice ministry. That corruption word seems to come up in every Shinawatra case.

Apparently though the Shinawatra's are clean as a PRDC whistle though and have never done anything wrong. It is a bigger conspiracy than the fake moon landing.

And people still think an elected senate is more democratic. All it will do increase the amount of corruption cases against The Shinawatra's drivers, maids, secretaries, doormen, butlers, shoe shiners etc etc etc.

They found the weakness in Thai democracy and are abusing it. They don't even care if they stay in power long enough to abuse it. There is another Shinawatra that will step up to replace the last one.

Elections. Great. Focus on post ballot box muppets. Elections only allow a govt to prove it is democratic. PTP have failed.

"It is a bigger conspiracy than the fake moon landing..."

The earth is flat! You're right. There was no ciorruption in this pure and fair land before a Shinawatra was born.

Sieg Heil!!

[Basil B]

Special Report: Govt opts to use state enterprises' fund to pay back rice farmers

BANGKOK: -- The government is set to borrow money from state enterprises to fund payments to unpaid farmers under the rice-pledging scheme after its bid to use the Bank for Agriculture and Agricultural Cooperatives (BAAC)'s liquidity was unsuccessful.

Deputy Finance Minister Tanusak Lek-uthai, in his capacity as chairman of the BAAC board, earlier held urgent meetings to persuade the bank to advance payments to farmers but later announced that the government opted to use 40 billion baht from state enterprises to fund scheme.

According to Mr Tanusak, the BAAC has over 110 billion baht in liquidity and is in the position to help the government pay rice growers before the scheme runs out of money.

The Commerce Ministry’s rice sales have missed the target of 12 billion baht per million tons per month. Farmers already pledged 9.97 million tonnes of paddy worth almost 100 billion baht during the start of the 2013-14 main crop season from October 1 to January 7.

The BAAC has so far paid 50 billion baht to farmers who pledged 3.5 million tonnes of paddy.

Mr Tanusak added that the bank would pay all unpaid farmers by the end of January, which was later than the original date of January 15. The cabinet had previously agreed that the BAAC would pay farmers the 70 billion baht owed them by January 15. The promise came after hundreds of farmers had set up road blockades near Phichit province to protest against long-delayed payments under the rice-pledging scheme.

The deputy Finance Minister said that at the end of the year, the scheme’s budget is expected to balloon to 190 billion baht, a significant increase from the 160 billion baht estimated.

In addition to the mounting losses, the rice-pledging scheme is also under investigation by the National Anti-Corruption Commission (NACC). The NACC’s sub-committee announced on January 16 that the agency would launch a probe against caretaker Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra over her alleged mishandling of the pledging scheme. The premier chaired the National Rice Policy Committee overseeing the rice scheme.

-- NNT 2014-01-16

Wonga have appointed a dedicated representative who is waiting by the phone for that call...

[metisdead]

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[pipkins]

"...a new setback to her government following weeks of mass opposition protests"....This is not a setback...This is expected.....Its' called a 'judicial coup"...It has been clear that the Elites have decided to go the Judicial route to achieve their coup-intentions....Enabling their coup using the military wasn't going to fly internationally, and working via judicial vehicles creates smoke Internationally, when outside Thailand the judiciary is considered normal.....The PTP/UDD/RS are also expecting this and see the theft of their electoral choices by these so-called Independent bodies in the same light as if there was a flaming military intervention....Their reactions will be the same......As an aside, I am hearing that the military is being used primarily as a check on the police, preventing them from managing and controlling the coup-mongers....I understand the coup-mongers are even charging fees to pass their locations, essentially creating 'toll roads'.

A consignment of geriatric shoemakers.

Great description of the Coup plotters lackeys here in the Judiciary.

Judicial coup has been talked about for years and here is just more proof. Not that most reasonalble or informed people need it.

In Thailand, they don't care. If they can fool enough of their own people to get away with it, the world can go hang.... Until they put sanctions on them and the Reds take them to international tribunals, or they are kicked out of ASEAN, or the Army's new toys are impounded (as last time by the germans), or nobody of note will meet with their leaders (AJ last time round was snubbed), or money and investment move else where in asia as the money men know a Red Tide will be along to evict them before long.

Last but not least. A real uprising one day could occur against a coup and it could be much much worse than anything anybody is prepared for. Might take more than 18 Coups all in the same direction to protect the same people to waken Bluesky and ASTV viewers eyes to whats going on. But the rest of the world really got it in 2006. Wiki Leaks documents are on line....

Seek before ye knee jerk this time.

[Basil B]

Will there be any money left to pay government employees next pay day?

[djjamie]

I am starting to understand why Yaowapa Wongsawat (the ugly duckling of the Shinawatra clan) is being so quite. One can only assume after the usual and predictable corruption cases against Yingluck and her MP's that will no doubt prove them guilty, in will come Yaowapa, innocent….Well after her 5 year political ban. Those Shinawatra's just can't keep out of trouble. I can imagine after Yinglucks 5 year ban Yaowapa will be proven corrupt and in will walk Yingluck again. Couple of years later another ban for her and Thaksin's son will be the next PM.

So in summary, Thaksin is a convicted fugitive on the run overseas. His sister is facing corruption charges. His other sister was banned for 5 years from politics. The other sisters husband found guilty of neglecting his duties after….surprise surprise, suspending a corruption investigation into two senior officials while he was a permanent secretary at the justice ministry. That corruption word seems to come up in every Shinawatra case.

Apparently though the Shinawatra's are clean as a PRDC whistle though and have never done anything wrong. It is a bigger conspiracy than the fake moon landing.

And people still think an elected senate is more democratic. All it will do increase the amount of corruption cases against The Shinawatra's drivers, maids, secretaries, doormen, butlers, shoe shiners etc etc etc.

They found the weakness in Thai democracy and are abusing it. They don't even care if they stay in power long enough to abuse it. There is another Shinawatra that will step up to replace the last one.

Elections. Great. Focus on post ballot box muppets. Elections only allow a govt to prove it is democratic. PTP have failed.

"It is a bigger conspiracy than the fake moon landing..."

The earth is flat! You're right. There was no ciorruption in this pure and fair land before a Shinawatra was born.

Sieg Heil!!

Uhh? No ciorruption.

Of course there was.

I'm not talking about before the Shinawatra's. I'm talking about THE Shinawatra's. About how one Shinawatra takes over from the next when they are proven corrupt.

I could explain my post again, but to save time….Look above!

By the way….The earth is round….

[sms747]

who will be probing the anti graft panel? lets face it they are ALL corrupt.

[Spalpeen]

A very transparent attempt by the usual suspects at repeating the judicial coup of 2010. They still don't get it. It's not about whatever politicians head up the current government. Jail them and others will step up to take their place. It's about the 15,744,190 people who voted for them.

[ginjag]

" she was democratically elected" and has the right to stay the full 4 years, I have been reading posts like this for 3 months

[catmac]

That's it then. Despite all Suthep's ranting and raving, neither he nor his "student" thugs have been able to provoke a bloody confrontation on the streets of Bangkok. A confrontation that he desperately needed in order to give the army an excuse to stage yet another coup, which is the only way that he could have won. So, just as in 2010, his backers have had to go for the next best thing, a judicial coup.

[pipkins]

" she was democratically elected" and has the right to stay the full 4 years, I have been reading posts like this for 3 months

Been reading it since she was Democratically elected. You'll see the figures here. Not PT figures, but the real actual voting figures that show this to be a fact.

What is it with elections and you guys. We have more of them here than we should, and this is due to the continual coups. Still everytime, they vote against the ingraied historical corruption that is represented here by the Dems.

Next election, they will win. The only questions is will she win an election this year, or will there have to be another Junta Installed and overthrown, before she can win the next election. But, either way, she will win the NEXT free and fair election in this country. <deleted>, they almost won the one in 2007 with the full rigging and no party maching behind her. The dems only managed 30% under their own installed Constitution and Election rules.... 30%

All the talk of vote buying is crap. Lets say it is "Bluesky True" though. Did Thaksin spend more on vote buying the the Dems backers spent staging coups annd recovering later from the taxpayer. Post 2006 rise is striking.. 35% in one year http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2010/09/03/thailands-hungry-military/

So what happens is... the Coup is planned and financed and then the money recovered from the tax payer once their Puppets are installed. Is this what people should be fighting on the streets for more of?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thai_general_election,_2011

[Roadman]

Long overdue.

[Ozymandias]

What has reforming the senate to make it more democratic got to do with the anti-corruption commission? The institutions set up by the military in 2006 are planning another judicial coup to make Thailand ungovernable by anyone except their boys.

By democratic law the senate is without party influence, maybe you should read a bit more

By nature, Thai law is subverted and undermined by the phuu yai culture and the semi-feudal hierarchy. Maybe you should get out a bit more and experience the real Thailand, not the one represented on the page.

Presuming that you do live here, you must have had your head in the sand for years to think the law means a tinker's fart.

[SICHONSTEVE]

"...a new setback to her government following weeks of mass opposition protests"....This is not a setback...This is expected.....Its' called a 'judicial coup"...It has been clear that the Elites have decided to go the Judicial route to achieve their coup-intentions....Enabling their coup using the military wasn't going to fly internationally, and working via judicial vehicles creates smoke Internationally, when outside Thailand the judiciary is considered normal.....The PTP/UDD/RS are also expecting this and see the theft of their electoral choices by these so-called Independent bodies in the same light as if there was a flaming military intervention....Their reactions will be the same......As an aside, I am hearing that the military is being used primarily as a check on the police, preventing them from managing and controlling the coup-mongers....I understand the coup-mongers are even charging fees to pass their locations, essentially creating 'toll roads'.

Great isn't it!!

You have got to laugh.

The best bit is that the house of cards has all come tumbling down as a result of Thaksin's bumbling - isn't that ironic poetry!!

Yee ha, bring it on!!!

Do you think that Yingluck will be able to use Skype when she is being grilled? Time to defend yourself, darling!!

[djjamie]

" she was democratically elected" and has the right to stay the full 4 years, I have been reading posts like this for 3 months

Been reading it since she was Democratically elected. You'll see the figures here. Not PT figures, but the real actual voting figures that show this to be a fact.

What is it with elections and you guys. We have more of them here than we should, and this is due to the continual coups. Still everytime, they vote against the ingraied historical corruption that is represented here by the Dems.

Next election, they will win. The only questions is will she win an election this year, or will there have to be another Junta Installed and overthrown, before she can win the next election. But, either way, she will win the NEXT free and fair election in this country. <deleted>, they almost won the one in 2007 with the full rigging and no party maching behind her. The dems only managed 30% under their own installed Constitution and Election rules.... 30%

All the talk of vote buying is crap. Lets say it is "Bluesky True" though. Did Thaksin spend more on vote buying the the Dems backers spent staging coups annd recovering later from the taxpayer. Post 2006 rise is striking.. 35% in one year http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2010/09/03/thailands-hungry-military/

So what happens is... the Coup is planned and financed and then the money recovered from the tax payer once their Puppets are installed. Is this what people should be fighting on the streets for more of?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thai_general_election,_2011

How many principles of democracy do you feel need to be followed before a govt is proven democratic? One apparently. Elections.

Would you say that Zimbabwe is a great democracy? How about Sudan? Iraq?

So if someone follows 1 principle of democracy like elections are they more democratic that someone that follows elections and AND the other 14 principles of democracy?

Sounds silly heay that someone would support a democracy that only adhered to elections and forgot the other 14 principles. Well that was what the farmers did because the other 14 principles didn't affect them.

Equal protection under the law. Nahh. They got the protection while the "others" didn't. Look no further than the Facebook quote by a "friend of Thaksin" wanting to kidnap the Generals twin daughters compared to a Facebook quote critacising Yingluck.

Power and civic responsibility are exercised by all citizens, directly or through their freely elected representatives. Nahh. A majority that didn't want an amnesty bill, but represented in parliament as a 307 -0 vote. That was representative of Thaksin. Not the people.

Democracy rests upon the principles of majority rule, coupled with individual and minority rights. Nahh. The environmentalists are garbage according to the Deputy PM.

​I'm tired and that is only 3. Rest assured there are 11 more I can highlight.

Tomorrow being a new day I will be met with the same uneducated gullible comments. BUT BUT BUT BUT, we won the election.

When I meet people with that view point I want to embrace them and tell them everything will be ok. Don't fear. People like that can always be saved, protected and shielded from the very beliefs they defended, but will persecute them in the future. Even the people that voted for Mugabe and defended him as a democratic demagogue need defending, protecting and shielding. Well the ones that are still alive. Ironically they need protecting, defending and shielding from the very man they voted for.

I pity the victims of dictatorship that feel they are defending a democracy. Most of all I pity there offspring. The kids are the true victims.

it is post ballot box actions that molds a govt’s sincerity to democracy. All that elections do is give them a chance to show it.

The sad thing is the replies (if any) will be…Well the DEMS did……Or someone will pick a minor aspect of the comment like You said "​I'm tired and that is only 3. Rest assured there are 11 more I can highlight. So why didn't you instead of writing another 4 paragraphs" "You can't be that tired then" Get my point? No one can defend the PT in every other principle, but they are brilliant at deflecting and changing the subject .

The earth is flat some say. Most of the rice farmers would believe that if it was taught at the red shirt school. They probably believe it now. Most can't even point to Cambodia on a map. They are the ones that have the future of Thailand in their hands. They need to be educated lest Thailand becomes a failed state.

Edited January 16, 2014 by djjamie

[spirit47]

It have some ironic, to use the "State Enterprises Fund"... for pay the rice farmers.

Sure this money should use for some "hub", but for rice-hub...

Time to print some money...

[Spartakos]

I am starting to understand why Yaowapa Wongsawat (the ugly duckling of the Shinawatra clan) is being so quite. One can only assume after the usual and predictable corruption cases against Yingluck and her MP's that will no doubt prove them guilty, in will come Yaowapa, innocent….Well after her 5 year political ban. Those Shinawatra's just can't keep out of trouble. I can imagine after Yinglucks 5 year ban Yaowapa will be proven corrupt and in will walk Yingluck again. Couple of years later another ban for her and Thaksin's son will be the next PM.

So in summary, Thaksin is a convicted fugitive on the run overseas. His sister is facing corruption charges. His other sister was banned for 5 years from politics. The other sisters husband found guilty of neglecting his duties after….surprise surprise, suspending a corruption investigation into two senior officials while he was a permanent secretary at the justice ministry. That corruption word seems to come up in every Shinawatra case.

Apparently though the Shinawatra's are clean as a PRDC whistle though and have never done anything wrong. It is a bigger conspiracy than the fake moon landing.

And people still think an elected senate is more democratic. All it will do increase the amount of corruption cases against The Shinawatra's drivers, maids, secretaries, doormen, butlers, shoe shiners etc etc etc.

They found the weakness in Thai democracy and are abusing it. They don't even care if they stay in power long enough to abuse it. There is another Shinawatra that will step up to replace the last one.

Elections. Great. Focus on post ballot box muppets. Elections only allow a govt to prove it is democratic. PTP have failed.

"It is a bigger conspiracy than the fake moon landing..."

The earth is flat! You're right. There was no ciorruption in this pure and fair land before a Shinawatra was born.

Sieg Heil!!

But, but, but Suthep and Abhisit... well they are bad too.., very bad.., so people should not be angry at shinawat clan, actually close all the cases against them and go home, yes good idea, isn't it?

[bigbamboo]

Will this be Yingluck's 'Ratchadapisek'?

[Smokemachine]

This rice scheme scam has putting many innocent citizens in big trouble.

It shouldn't has happened. And a farmer has died for nothing. Many are still in debts. Some borrow from illegal moneylenders. Imagine the interest they need to pay.

Piling higher and higher.

Edited January 16, 2014 by Smokemachine

[Ozymandias]

who will be probing the anti graft panel? lets face it they are ALL corrupt.

Yes.

The sheep can baa baa all day long, but the cool heads who can look at this from a position of calm analysis see it clearly:

The new elite is very popular. The old elite feel horribly threatened by this and will do anything they can to maintain their position, criminal or not. They will disguise this desperation for power, calling it a fight against corruption, and the sheep will go baa baa. The new elite will do anything to retain and strengthen their position, criminal or not. They will disguise this with democracy and the sheep will go baa baa. Ultimately, the new elite will win, with or without their current leaders. Eventually they will become the old elite and their power base will be challenged by the next bunch of self-serving megalomaniacs.

There's a popular mediaeval fantasy drama by HBO that deals in the same themes. I think it's quite popular in Thailand for some reason.

[djjamie]

This rice scheme scam has putting many innocent citizens in big trouble.

It shouldn't has happened. And a farmer has died for nothing. Many are still in debts. Some borrow from illegal moneylenders. Imagine the interest they need to pay.

Piling higher and higher.

He didn't die. He committed suicide. His only crime was he trusted a Shinawatra.

That does not deserve the same death sentence that the corrupt convicted criminal Shinawatara handed out to innocent people that were suspected of drug use during the brutal drug war in Thailand.

That suicide alone shows that farmers desperately need to be educated so no more innocent victims die.

Edited January 16, 2014 by djjamie

[ShannonT]

In Thailand, if you're rich or have connections, you don't go to prison even if you're convicted - if you even ever get convicted.

Abhisit and Suthep are on trial for murder charges, the coup leaders are on trial too, the yellow shirt protest leaders are on trial, the Red Bull heir that drove over and killed a police officer keeps delaying his trial due to being on holiday, etc.

Being "probed" is hardly worth being mentioned in Thailand. After being probed, they still need to file charges, get a conviction and finally you go to prison (or not).

None of the above mentioned people went to prison yet, so I doubt Yingluck will ever see the inside of a prison either.

It's Thailand after all...

[pipkins]

The Washington post today calling for US Government to make clear to thailand that Suspension of aid and security co-operation is MANDATORY under US law if this Judicial Coup is successful.

The Army Coup is fast failing and the lack of trouble on the streets has focuses all attention on what the Courts are getting up to... And... other than Bluesky and a few Coup lovers on here, they are seeing through the whole charade.

Very hard hitting (against Suthep and his backers) from a highly regarden news outlet and opinion driver.

"Thailand’s anti-democracy militants may be emboldened to believe that they, too, will be tolerated by the Obama administration. They shouldn’t be."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/thailands-anti-democracy-protests-merit-a-rebuke-from-the-us/2014/01/15/ca2205a8-7e1b-11e3-95c6-0a7aa80874bc_story.html

[SICHONSTEVE]

" she was democratically elected" and has the right to stay the full 4 years, I have been reading posts like this for 3 months

Been reading it since she was Democratically elected. You'll see the figures here. Not PT figures, but the real actual voting figures that show this to be a fact.

What is it with elections and you guys. We have more of them here than we should, and this is due to the continual coups. Still everytime, they vote against the ingraied historical corruption that is represented here by the Dems.

Next election, they will win. The only questions is will she win an election this year, or will there have to be another Junta Installed and overthrown, before she can win the next election. But, either way, she will win the NEXT free and fair election in this country. <deleted>, they almost won the one in 2007 with the full rigging and no party maching behind her. The dems only managed 30% under their own installed Constitution and Election rules.... 30%

All the talk of vote buying is crap. Lets say it is "Bluesky True" though. Did Thaksin spend more on vote buying the the Dems backers spent staging coups annd recovering later from the taxpayer. Post 2006 rise is striking.. 35% in one year http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2010/09/03/thailands-hungry-military/

So what happens is... the Coup is planned and financed and then the money recovered from the tax payer once their Puppets are installed. Is this what people should be fighting on the streets for more of?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thai_general_election,_2011

How many principles of democracy do you feel need to be followed before a govt is proven democratic? One apparently. Elections.

Would you say that Zimbabwe is a great democracy? How about Sudan? Iraq?

So if someone follows 1 principle of democracy like elections are they more democratic that someone that follows elections and AND the other 14 principles of democracy?

Sounds silly heay that someone would support a democracy that only adhered to elections and forgot the other 14 principles. Well that was what the farmers did because the other 14 principles didn't affect them.

Equal protection under the law. Nahh. They got the protection while the "others" didn't. Look no further than the Facebook quote by a "friend of Thaksin" wanting to kidnap the Generals twin daughters compared to a Facebook quote critacising Yingluck.

Power and civic responsibility are exercised by all citizens, directly or through their freely elected representatives. Nahh. A majority that didn't want an amnesty bill, but represented in parliament as a 307 -0 vote. That was representative of Thaksin. Not the people.

Democracy rests upon the principles of majority rule, coupled with individual and minority rights. Nahh. The environmentalists are garbage according to the Deputy PM.

​I'm tired and that is only 3. Rest assured there are 11 more I can highlight.

Tomorrow being a new day I will be met with the same uneducated gullible comments. BUT BUT BUT BUT, we won the election.

When I meet people with that view point I want to embrace them and tell them everything will be ok. Don't fear. People like that can always be saved, protected and shielded from the very beliefs they defended, but will persecute them in the future. Even the people that voted for Mugabe and defended him as a democratic demagogue need defending, protecting and shielding. Well the ones that are still alive. Ironically they need protecting, defending and shielding from the very man they voted for.

I pity the victims of dictatorship that feel they are defending a democracy. Most of all I pity there offspring. The kids are the true victims.

it is post ballot box actions that molds a govt’s sincerity to democracy. All that elections do is give them a chance to show it.

The sad thing is the replies (if any) will be…Well the DEMS did……Or someone will pick a minor aspect of the comment like You said "​I'm tired and that is only 3. Rest assured there are 11 more I can highlight. So why didn't you instead of writing another 4 paragraphs" "You can't be that tired then" Get my point? No one can defend the PT in every other principle, but they are brilliant at deflecting and changing the subject .

The earth is flat some say. Most of the rice farmers would believe that if it was taught at the red shirt school. They probably believe it now. Most can't even point to Cambodia on a map. They are the ones that have the future of Thailand in their hands. They need to be educated lest Thailand becomes a failed state.

Not exactly poetry in motion but all of the valid points are there and you seem to have a good grasp as to the situation.

I would love to be a fly on the wall when they are interrogating Yingluck and I would like to know what the odds are for tears being shed when it dawns upon her what she has presided over?

Well done AGAIN to Thaksin, can't you just sense the 'brotherly love' he holds for her!!

I am actually starting to feel a little bit sorry for her now as she has been s*a* upon by her own kin in his selfish quest for his ticket back to Thailand. Still she should have known what her brother was like - he treats people (and family) like poor quality tissue paper, use and dispose of.

Why put her through this punishment? because his ego is too big and he cannot accept that he is a loser, that's why. She wanted to give it all up apparently, but he insisted that she stay on longer to face further torment. What an evil cad he is!!!

[Cnxforever]

"...a new setback to her government following weeks of mass opposition protests"....This is not a setback...This is expected.....Its' called a 'judicial coup"...It has been clear that the Elites have decided to go the Judicial route to achieve their coup-intentions....Enabling their coup using the military wasn't going to fly internationally, and working via judicial vehicles creates smoke Internationally, when outside Thailand the judiciary is considered normal.....The PTP/UDD/RS are also expecting this and see the theft of their electoral choices by these so-called Independent bodies in the same light as if there was a flaming military intervention....Their reactions will be the same......As an aside, I am hearing that the military is being used primarily as a check on the police, preventing them from managing and controlling the coup-mongers....I understand the coup-mongers are even charging fees to pass their locations, essentially creating 'toll roads'.

So, who's responsible for the loss of tens of billions of bucks if not the government?

Who in the government should take the punishment? Every single cabinet member involved. All the way up the line.

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

I have a great idea how to get the money back!

Cut it off the military budget - they are useless anyway - and the hard working farmers deserve the money much more!