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Question is has he been bought?

by whom - not so long ago many thought Taksin having bought police and most of judiciary had also bought army but maybe and i hope not

Anyone who is against Taksin is my friend bought or not

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When he used the word "Intervene", did he mean coup? There is only two sides: rule of law and lawlessness.

Will the political conflict ease or improve after the declaration of the state of emergency? Not immediately. They may be an increase of violence at its early stage. The authority must act swiftly before it turns to become new problems.

If the situation degenerates into bloodbath and anarchy, what would you have them do? Sit around and wait for a "winner" to emerge from the rubble?

Using force against a couple of hundred thousand people is not feasible, would only inflame the situation and accelerate such an outcome.

Basically you've got a failed government on your hands here, running down its remaining options. Eventually they'll have to do what any other political party would have done first - dump their failed leadership and its cronies.

no way will they ever dump Taksin slaves can't dump their master and without Taksin they are nothing

Posted

I think there is no doubt that things have already started to get bad. General time to send in the troops, the citizens of Bangkok want their city back.

Hmmmm.... so you want the military to get stuck in, but at the same time accuse the anti-government protesters of trying to force a coup?

To me it looks like Prayuth is giving CAPO enough rope to hang themselves with, by repeatedly stating that it is not the military's brief to get involved with domestic law and order issues, unless the situation deteriorates to 'unsolvable violence'.

He points out yet again that it is the police's responsibility, at the behest of the caretaker government, to take care of things, while clearly warning the police not to use unwarranted violence against protesters. The thinly veiled threat to the police that 'the outlawed group which resorts to violence was not the PDRC. We're preparing evidence to press for police action.' is a clear warning to the police, not to think they can just do Thaksin's bidding without facing consequences.

From where I stand it looks like the military have learnt a few things since 2010.

I just hope that CAPO/red-shirts/Chalerm(!)/NSPTR/PDRC are smart enough to read between the lines and back off enough so that the military don't feel forced to get more directly involved.

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"...the Army would support and assist all sides with no bias"

This sitting on the fence is not sitting on the fence at all....so-called equal support for an attempted nullification of democracy by the opposition and the country’s entrenched elite and seeking to dilute Thai democracy in order to prevent the electorate from making majority choices is not fence sitting....Does anyone doubt that if the military put their collective finger between Suthep & Co's eyes and told them this party is over, that indeed their party would be over?....This all reminds me of their last mutiny against an elected Govt. by refusing to clear the airport.

Unfortunately, it all just reinforces the R'song image of the military in the eyes of the electoral majority....That soldier-on-civilian travesty has them affixed in their mind as no more than a foreign occupying military. This not me talking, but simply mirroring and reflecting what I observe and hear from within UDD/Rs circles.

I understand the General is also agitated by Jatuporn's commentary. Jatuporn seems to be the only one confronting this guy...All else kowtow, including Ms. Y. He knows full well that Jatuporn represents a wide swath of the electorate so he cannot take the comments lightly. I am sure it gives him pause. This is actually an unintended consequence of when the military was used by coup-mongers in 2006...At that time there was no organized opposition movement...Only politically naive types putting flowers in the gun barrels of soldiers....Talking about parties, that 2006 party is definitely over in 2014.

Spouting pointless crap as ever I see. How can you nullify something that doesn't exist ? Thailand doesn't have democracy, it tried and over the last 10 years it became Thaksinocracy which is much closer to a dictatorship. If not for the current protests he might have succeeded in becoming dictator too ! And as stated many times, there is much more to democracy than merely voting and the government has shown repeatedly that it ignores rules and checks and balances at will to suit itself. Just because they were elected it doesn't make any of their corruption and maladministration legal in the least bit !

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stressing that the spate of attacks on protesters was not triggered by the anti-government movement and the military knew the identities of the assailants.

"If the situation escalates to an unsolvable level, the military will have no choice but to solve it. The outlawed group which resorts to violence was not the People's Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC). We're preparing evidence to press for police action. The problem of Thai people must be solved by Thai people. Don't allow others to get involved in Thailand," he said.

He condemned outlawed groups for creating violence, disclosing that they have strongly threatened government authorities in their radio talk shows.

"They are not PDRC members. They should not be born on Thai soil. They're in dire need of violence, worsening resolution attempt. We have to find a way out for differences of opinions among Thai people," he concluded.

That is quite some double talk, seems to be saying its not either side but some group with a thirst for violence and that would like to see the country go down the tubes. Could be the usual load of smoke and mirrors of course but could he be hinting or suggesting its the southern insurgent groups ? they certainly fit the MO along with radio talk show threats .... ahh i dunno

I will be very surprised if any evidence ever shows up against anyone, never does normally. Surprise us smile.png

Surely much more likely to be Northern 'insurgent groups' since it is the protestors getting killed....

Posted

Question is has he been bought?

EVERY single time anything dopes not go 100% Thaksin's way some twit marches out this tired old line of crap. Could you consider for even a fraction of a second that maybe someone is actually trying to do their job properly instead of pandering....?

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Surely much more likely to be Northern 'insurgent groups' since it is the protestors getting killed....

I keep hearing this, but it seems to me that in recent weeks - as in the past - there are more fatalities on the red side. These people aren't committing suicide.

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stressing that the spate of attacks on protesters was not triggered by the anti-government movement and the military knew the identities of the assailants.

"If the situation escalates to an unsolvable level, the military will have no choice but to solve it. The outlawed group which resorts to violence was not the People's Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC). We're preparing evidence to press for police action. The problem of Thai people must be solved by Thai people. Don't allow others to get involved in Thailand," he said.

He condemned outlawed groups for creating violence, disclosing that they have strongly threatened government authorities in their radio talk shows.

"They are not PDRC members. They should not be born on Thai soil. They're in dire need of violence, worsening resolution attempt. We have to find a way out for differences of opinions among Thai people," he concluded.

That is quite some double talk, seems to be saying its not either side but some group with a thirst for violence and that would like to see the country go down the tubes. Could be the usual load of smoke and mirrors of course but could he be hinting or suggesting its the southern insurgent groups ? they certainly fit the MO along with radio talk show threats .... ahh i dunno

I will be very surprised if any evidence ever shows up against anyone, never does normally. Surprise us smile.png

Surely much more likely to be Northern 'insurgent groups' since it is the protestors getting killed....

Why ? southern insurgents have been at it in the south for years and happily bombing and shooting people at will hes clearly saying threats against government authorities, i dont see northern insurgent groups doing that. They have threatened many times to take the fight to BKK and have before. Now is a perfect time and cover they dont care who they hurt one dead Buddhist is as good as any other.

Personally I dont think he has a clue and just sounding off with rumours, if he knew then he should be obliged to seek and detain for national security sake... you really think he has a clue but wont say or do anything about them when Thais are dying ?

What kind of protector of the people is that ?? if I were a yellow shirt id be demanding the army went and neutralised them before another yellow was killed. I can only conclude its all guff as usual or the army are guilty of being complicit in Thais being murdered if they know whos doing it yet will not act to protect the people...... ridiculous really .

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Lots of words no meaning

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How much more meaning do you want:

"He said the Army would support and assist all sides with no bias."

very different than supporting the government.....They declare themself again as independent.

"But in case that the conflict turns violent and is uncontrollable, then it is necessary for the Army to intervene and resolve the conflict."

very different than supporting the police. Resolving the conflict could mean many things.

The big statement is the army is doing what they want.....

. I guess resolving the problem would be running the country for the next 12 months or so, but don't worry the Peoples will simply say, I see red, I see red, I see red and on we go again. FAILED STATE and the world watches with dismay. They shouldn't the same thing has been repeating its self for a 1000 years now....

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Posted

When he used the word "Intervene", did he mean coup? There is only two sides: rule of law and lawlessness.

Will the political conflict ease or improve after the declaration of the state of emergency? Not immediately. They may be an increase of violence at its early stage. The authority must act swiftly before it turns to become new problems.

If the situation degenerates into bloodbath and anarchy, what would you have them do? Sit around and wait for a "winner" to emerge from the rubble?

Using force against a couple of hundred thousand people is not feasible, would only inflame the situation and accelerate such an outcome.

Basically you've got a failed government on your hands here, running down its remaining options. Eventually they'll have to do what any other political party would have done first - dump their failed leadership and its cronies.

no way will they ever dump Taksin slaves can't dump their master and without Taksin they are nothing

Sorry, not worth to comment.

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Surely much more likely to be Northern 'insurgent groups' since it is the protestors getting killed....

I keep hearing this, but it seems to me that in recent weeks - as in the past - there are more fatalities on the red side. These people aren't committing suicide.

Your figures are wrong

And the police are now questioning Ko Tee over a number of attacks

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"But in case that the conflict turns violent and is uncontrollable, then it is necessary for the Army to intervene and resolve the conflict"


Dear Khun Suthep

...here is, what you have to do:....


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