German dies in Phuket of suspected Viagra overdose

[Lite Beer]

German dies in Phuket of suspected Viagra overdose
Eakkapop Thongtub

Mr Huch's body is brought out of the room by Kusondharm volunteers.

PHUKET: A German expat was found dead in his room at a short-time hotel in Phuket Town on Friday afternoon (February 7).

Police and the Kusoldharm Phuket Foundation were called after hotel staff found Karl Peter Huch, 70, from Berlin, stretched out dead on the bed at the rooming house on Kra Rd.

On a table they found various medicines including a packet of Kamagra, a Thai version of Viagra. One tablet was left in the packet; three had apparently been consumed.

Staff said Mr Huch arrived at the hotel at about 1:30 pm and paid for a short stay. Two hours later a member of the hotel staff came to remind him his time was up. Receiving no response the staffer went into the room and found the German's body.

Police suspect Mr Huch may have died of a sildenafil (Kamagra) overdose but his body was taken to Vachira Phuket Hospital for autopsy.

Source: http://www.thephuketnews.com/german-dies-in-phuket-of-suspected-viagra-overdose-44500.php

-- Phuket News 2014-02-09

[robertthebruce]

Sad,

Paid for the Hotel Room, for a short visit ??? oh well , obviously had plans...

R.I.P.

[Costas2008]

RIP Mr Huch.

[Luckymf]

He was by himself, strange, very strange!

[aguy30]

An overdose from 1 Kamagra? A reaction maybe but not an overdose from the normal dosage of one tablet.

"Kamagra, a Thai version of Viagra" Actually Kamagra is manufactured in India and is not the Thai version of Viagra.

Great reporting and police work, again.

[Costas2008]

aguy30, on 09 Feb 2014 - 13:24, said:

An overdose from 1 Kamagra? A reaction maybe but not an overdose from the normal dosage of one tablet.

"Kamagra, a Thai version of Viagra" Actually Kamagra is manufactured in India and is not the Thai version of Viagra.

Great reporting and police work, again.

One tablet was left in the packet; three had apparently been consumed.

[aguy30]

He was by himself, strange, very strange!

Not so strange if his companion realized he was dead or at least having a big problem and ran away. Sounds like normal Thai behavior/

[Blackmirage2013]

If he died from consuming three Viagra tablets, than half the men on this forum are at risk!

[aguy30]

aguy30, on 09 Feb 2014 - 13:24, said:

An overdose from 1 Kamagra? A reaction maybe but not an overdose from the normal dosage of one tablet.

"Kamagra, a Thai version of Viagra" Actually Kamagra is manufactured in India and is not the Thai version of Viagra.

Great reporting and police work, again.

One tablet was left in the packet; three had apparently been consumed.

You are correct.

[transam]

Only an autopsy might find out that he over dosed on stiffy. Why do folk think cos one remained it took three. My paracetamol pack only has one remaining, dose that mean I took 9 before.

[Greer]

Only an autopsy might find out that he over dosed on stiffy. Why do folk think cos one remained it took three. My paracetamol pack only has one remaining, dose that mean I took 9 before.

Excellent point!

People with heart problems are advised not to take this sort of medication, but as you say, the cause will be determined by the autopsy.

Condolences to his family and friends.

[Centrum]

He was by himself, strange, very strange!

Very Strange? Not sure. David Carradine was alone when he went.

[Kerryd]

Reminds me of the Canadian that died in Isaan a few years back. IIRC he met this "nice" lady on the interwebs, flew to Thailand 6 months later, went to dinner with the lady and her chaperone (nice girl doesn't go to dinner alone on a first date with a stranger !), then he and the lady go back to his hotel room (shock !!).

According to the story, he croaked in mid-stroke. Apparently he had taken 2 Viagra just before (wanting to make sure he didn't disappoint no doubt). Long trip (Canada to Thailand to Isaan), probably out-of-shape 50+ y.o. that had probably also been drinking.

Probably better to go out with a smile on your face and a sweet young thang in your bed, rather than some other methods people traditionally use. Not sure the "sweet young thang" would agree though.

I laugh when my Thai friends ask me to buy Viagra for them. Seems that if a foreigner asks for it at a pharmacy it's no big deal, but if a Thai guy does it is a major calamity !

I thought Thailand had also brought in a law/regulation that Viagra could only be sold with a prescription ? I think the idea was that a doctor would check the person out first and warn them of the risks.

Then I remembered, T.I.T., any law/regulation that was brought in probably stopped getting enforced the next day anyways, especially if it was costing someone $$.

My "soon-to-be-ex" of the day found an old packet of Viagra on a shelf that I apparently had forgotten about a long time ago (judging by the dust on it). She was somewhat upset and informed me quite strictly that I did not need to use that with her !

[sunsandsurf]

70 years old is just an old guy dying from being old.

[lee b]

Don't think he planned on his hole body becoming stiff. RIP to the bloke.

[transam]

70 years old is just an old guy dying from being old.

In my book 70 isn't old. He might have had underlying problems that he knew nothing about. I lost two friends in their twenties with underlying problems.

[TallPalm]

An overdose from 1 Kamagra? A reaction maybe but not an overdose from the normal dosage of one tablet.

"Kamagra, a Thai version of Viagra" Actually Kamagra is manufactured in India and is not the Thai version of Viagra.

Great reporting and police work, again.

If you read the article it says 3 had been consumed, 1 was left in the packet.

[stevenl]

An overdose from 1 Kamagra? A reaction maybe but not an overdose from the normal dosage of one tablet.

"Kamagra, a Thai version of Viagra" Actually Kamagra is manufactured in India and is not the Thai version of Viagra.

Great reporting and police work, again.

If you read the article it says 3 had been consumed, 1 was left in the packet.

If you had read the thread you would have seen this was pointed out already and aguy already admitted he did not read the OP correctly.

[sweatalot]

An overdose from 1 Kamagra? A reaction maybe but not an overdose from the normal dosage of one tablet.

"Kamagra, a Thai version of Viagra" Actually Kamagra is manufactured in India and is not the Thai version of Viagra.

Great reporting and police work, again.

If you read the article it says 3 had been consumed, 1 was left in the packet.

If you had read the thread you would have seen this was pointed out already and aguy already admitted he did not read the OP correctly.

3 tabs missing in the box doesn't mean anything. Who knows if he didn't use 2 of them on earlier days? Or may be all of them? Or may be non of them? Who knows if the pack found even belonged to him?

Edited February 9, 2014 by sweatalot

[andreandre]

Is there any evidence at all that during those two hours he didn't have a visitor to his room..

Little unusual to rent a short time room without prior arrangements to share it with a lady/LB i would think...

RIP to the guy..

[BeforeTigers]

So let me get this straight:
There's a drug so potent that it can kill you with just 3 pills, and it's readily available to anyone that wants to try it?

t.i.t.

[SOTIRIOS]

.....nobody knows...nobody cares......as long as nobody is blamed....it seems.....

[hstamm]

Sad,

Paid for the Hotel Room, for a short visit ??? oh well , obviously had plans...

R.I.P.

He had planes but hotel staff reminded him his time was up.

[virtualtraveller]

The generic viagra's aren't strong, in my experience the kamagras in pill form are strong (and possibly not as safe). Three would be too many, any more than one and it makes no difference.

btw men of this age dying of heart attacks during sex occurs fairly regularly here in Thailand.

And that looked like a pretty cheap short time.

[Frank James]

That sildenifil is a very potent drug. Anything more than one at a time, maximum one in a day, is a very risky proposition. It is definitely contraindicated if the user has any sort of heart or hypertension situation. There are a lot of maintenance drugs that older men take regularly that can clash with sildenifil. Be very careful. RIP to the German brother.

[Patanawet]

Don't think he planned on his hole body becoming stiff. RIP to the bloke.

Didn't know that Viagra affects the 'hole'.

Somewhere quite different I thought.

[bra]

The normal Viagra dose is 25 mg to 100 mg - not sure what was contained in the tablets taken by the deceased. In itself Viagra should not be a problem to those in reasonably good health. But that's why you should only take it after seeing your doctor and should only be purchased on prescription. There are certainly dangers - please read this from a US based medical site:

Serious cardiovascular, cerebrovascular, and vascular events, including myocardial infarction, sudden cardiac death, ventricular arrhythmia, cerebrovascular hemorrhage, transient ischemic attack, hypertension, subarachnoid and intracerebral hemorrhages, and pulmonary hemorrhage have been reported with the use of VIAGRA (sildenafil citrate) . Most, but not all, of these patients had preexisting cardiovascular risk factors. Many of these events were reported to occur during or shortly after sexual activity, and a few were reported to occur shortly after the use of VIAGRA (sildenafil citrate) without sexual activity. It is not possible to determine whether these events are related directly to VIAGRA (sildenafil citrate) , to sexual activity, to the patient's underlying cardiovascular disease, to a combination of these factors

Viagra also increases the blood pressure lowering effects of nitrates (for example, isosorbide dinitrate) that are used primarily for treating angina. Patients taking nitrates should not receive Viagra.

RIP for the poor guy.

[sabaii69]

probably no foul play as he had a big smile on his face. What a way to go, but in a crappy room. RIP

[fishhooks]

The normal Viagra dose is 25 mg to 100 mg - not sure what was contained in the tablets taken by the deceased. In itself Viagra should not be a problem to those in reasonably good health. But that's why you should only take it after seeing your doctor and should only be purchased on prescription. There are certainly dangers - please read this from a US based medical site:

Serious cardiovascular, cerebrovascular, and vascular events, including myocardial infarction, sudden cardiac death, ventricular arrhythmia, cerebrovascular hemorrhage, transient ischemic attack, hypertension, subarachnoid and intracerebral hemorrhages, and pulmonary hemorrhage have been reported with the use of VIAGRA (sildenafil citrate) . Most, but not all, of these patients had preexisting cardiovascular risk factors. Many of these events were reported to occur during or shortly after sexual activity, and a few were reported to occur shortly after the use of VIAGRA (sildenafil citrate) without sexual activity. It is not possible to determine whether these events are related directly to VIAGRA (sildenafil citrate) , to sexual activity, to the patient's underlying cardiovascular disease, to a combination of these factors

Viagra also increases the blood pressure lowering effects of nitrates (for example, isosorbide dinitrate) that are used primarily for treating angina. Patients taking nitrates should not receive Viagra.

RIP for the poor guy.

At last, a reasonable post attempting to place the situation into a readable form, without boring and useless comments from the majority on this thread!

[penwithcris]

The latest twist in this story is the suspicion that the missing three tablets were stolen by intruders

The police are urgently looking for three 'hardened' criminals

But seriously, if, indeed the German gentlemen did consume 3 viagra tablets in expectation of a willing visitor then i can well believe that the dosage proved too great for his heart

I have occasionally used viagra as a means of going into sexual overdrive, but even half a tablet raises my blood pressure and heart rate and temporarily blocks my airways. I dread to think what the effect of taking 3 tablets would be. I am sure my life would be at risk

Of course most of the comments here, including mine, are pure speculation, but events such as unexplained deaths inevitably brings out the amateu sleuths amongst us