Getting out of the bargirl / Isaan dating scene - feels great!

[Tmymaimee]

Of course not. I had to keep that part hidden. If she knew my past, she would finish with me. Why ask such a stupid, pointless question?

If you found out your girlfriend was an ex bar girl who had serviced 100s of men, wouldn't you walk away?

What's wrong with criticisizing bargirls even though I enjoy them for sex? Yes, I enjoy them but ultimately I found it unsatisfying from an emotional point of view. Similar to looking at porn. Meaningless in the big picture. Very few guys could ever attract a hot Baccara girl back home. I've seen their types in the clubs surrounded by groups of men all jostling for the chance. I criticize the bar girl acting as eventually their true feelings are seen and its unsettling. Like watching a children's movie star leave a set to go for a smoke.

If you find my posts trollish, why in the hell do you not only read them but in fact respond? Are you completely retarded?

[taqila]

good, thanks

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[TallGuyJohninBKK]

I read your comments,i am not impressed !

These girls who work the bars , streets ect are mostly in survival mode so I would strongly advise you not to look down your nose at at them...

There is probably a minority that are in it for the money alone but most will be supporting elderly parents,children or other family members...

What did your school teacher friend do to support herself whilst going through university ???

I think a lot of folks here are missing the distinction between:

--looking down on bargirls and the like because of the job they perform or presuming the reasons they do it -- which I don't support.

vs

--recognizing as a man the important difference between a woman who's with you strictly for the money in whatever form vs. a woman who's in a loving relationship with you -- which I wholeheartedly support.

The OP seems to feel he's finally found the latter route, and let's hope he's right about that.

[tingtongtingtong]

Of course not. I had to keep that part hidden. If she knew my past, she would finish with me. Why ask such a stupid, pointless question?

If you found out your girlfriend was an ex bar girl who had serviced 100s of men, wouldn't you walk away?

What's wrong with criticisizing bargirls even though I enjoy them for sex? Yes, I enjoy them but ultimately I found it unsatisfying from an emotional point of view. Similar to looking at porn. Meaningless in the big picture. Very few guys could ever attract a hot Baccara girl back home. I've seen their types in the clubs surrounded by groups of men all jostling for the chance. I criticize the bar girl acting as eventually their true feelings are seen and its unsettling. Like watching a children's movie star leave a set to go for a smoke.

If you find my posts trollish, why in the hell do you not only read them but in fact respond? Are you completely retarded?

who you talking to?

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Been in Thailand for 6 months. I can totally relate.Good post. I am now dating off of Thai Love Links and I enjoy meeting professional Thai ladies that intelligent and I can get to know.

Just be careful...

Even on Thai Love Links, there are A LOT of ladies (and ladyboys) for whom dating and getting your money IS their profession.

[HerbalEd]

if your young its proberly good for you to get out but if your old like me then this bar girl dating scene is the only option one has

Who are you fooling? Paid dates don't count.

Count for or towards what?

[HardenedSoul]

If you found out your girlfriend was an ex bar girl who had serviced 100s of men, wouldn't you walk away?

Well I dunno.

Your ex girlfriend, by your own admission, was a Baccarra bargirl who serviced the needs of Japanese gentlemen at ฿5,000 a time before seeing the light and running into the arms of a short, bald, unattractive white man for sanctuary.

Clearly, the sheer weight of traffic that had passed through her didn't stop you calling her a "girlfriend" or moving her into your apartment, did it?

<deleted> did you expect her to do. Move in with you, stop working and jostle with the roaches for any scraps that might fall off your table??

These women served their purpose; it'd be far more noble to leave it at that rather than bad mouth them for trying to get by

[Rumblecat]

Very few guys could ever attract a hot Baccara girl back home.

Nah, that's nonsense. It's easy to go out with attractive women in any country. You shouldn't assume your social and personal failings are shared by everyone else.

[thailampang2012]

,

Some older farangs bring to Thailand the same stigma they carry in their countries...

" Too old to find love...it is easy to meet women in a bar"...

I remember few mature women I met here during the years before getting married. I am 70...retired from the US with a minimum income. My wife is 48...Took me more than 2 years and 30 dates to find the right one for me...and the ones I dated before never were from a bar, or were asking for money.....Some were even too young for me...or too rich.....

If you are looking seriously in find a nice wife or partner I will be glad in give you info about those ones. They still looking.

One is 55, ex English teacher, never married, very independent business owner and relatively wealthy living in a beautiful ranch in Phayao. The other, and the most beautiful, is 62, divorced, no kids in home, retired Government employee, living alone in her small own house in Korat. Another one is a 55 years old teacher working and living in her own house close to Hua Hin. She is divorced from her first husband, a German, and lives alone.

Any of these women are looking for an "sponsor", only for companion. I met them using Internet sites tagged.com and angelfire.com and others.

Wonderful people...but I took my time until I met my wife, also on an Internet site. She is a small business and real estate owner, divorced, no kids in home, and from a traditional Chiang Mai family. These kind of women never will put a foot inside a bar....

[Kitsune]

ThaiVisa members know nothing about bars and bargirls.

It's true, this topic is never discussed on TV

[ross163103]

Better to pay by the piece....cheaper in the long run, just a thought.

[ajarnmarc]

I don't know…when we're in the club and she is wearing skin tight, mini shorts, 4" spike heels and has one leg raised on the table of drinks to make a 90 deg angle and grinding me…its not my vision of who I take home to visit my mother. In her spare time she worked at Soi 6. All my friends made the same comment.

Nor your mother needs to witness you having sex with newly appointed Miss Normal.

Even hookers have a life, family, kids, etc, she's just trying to make a living!

Ain't that sweet... She's just trying to make a living...

[Benmart]

I couldn't read any more after ' Since moving to thailand last year ' .... it's just to dam_n long, I don't wanna read a book, just a short story ... I need to go to sleep. I need a drink.

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Perhaps there is a greater need.

[Beetlejuice]

Most beerbar girls are prostitutes, in the flesh industry for the money, it`s their business and if any guys expect otherwise than they are living in cloud cuckoo land. It always amazes me how surprised they seem when they discover this fact. The naive and the gullible fools.

Below is the layman`s guide to choosing your ideal Thai girlfriend or a girl suitable as marriage material:

Edited February 16, 2014 by Beetlejuice

[Benmart]

Thank you for the post. Some will read it completely, some may not. Some may agree and some may not. Some will see a path that leads to peace and contentment. Others may take a path strewn with false hopes, sadness and darkness.

We all have choices and in my opinion, the purchase of one-night stands seldom brings the long term love and fulfillment that most people seek. Likewise, a relationship base on money seems doomed by its very conditions.

People must live and other people are willing to help them in various ways. That being said, it's live and let live.

I wish everyone peace.

[happysanook]

Stopped when I read "The super hot xxxxx built for nothing but sex".

who speaks like this?

These are just normal girl in not so normal situations that you are contributing to.

Yea. I love it how dudes think they can come here and girls are going to fall in love with them for their heart. Meanwhile, they're the farang is going out and drinking and banging different girls and going to massage parlors.

You will find a girl that loves you for your heart, but likely not at one of those places. Not that it's impossible. Actually I met the most amazing woman in the world at Spicy in Chiang mai. Simply phenomenal girl who happened to be there that night (for you naysayers, she's literally been to spicy 3x in her life and has NEVER been a bar girl or rubbed dick for dough). Works harder than anyone I've ever known, non-stop at her restaurants. So it can happen at those places, but it's highly highly unlikely.

There are Thai girls who will love you for real. Just got to be prepared to find someone near your own age (if you're a geezer) and be able to support yourself. We have evolved for billions of years to be the 'supporter'. The one who brings home the bread. Today that ='s dough. Not that you can't find girls who don't need or want it. I've been with several who had their own businesses and never wanted a dime from me. It was me who <deleted> it up. So they do exist. Just got to be ready to settle down. Don't find some girl who's living with her poor farm family in the sticks and NEEDS the dough. Find a girl who is working hard at her own business and is looking for a partner in LIFE. They exist in Thailand. You just got to be cool and not broke and don't cheat. You'll do alright.

[nurgut73]

you must have done something wrong mate...

[RandomSand]

Not all bar girl is bad, not all normal girl is good, it is your destiny that will steer you to who you will meet.

You are what your deep, driving desire is.

As your desire is, so is your will.

As your will is, so is your deed.

As your deed is, so is your destiny.

~ Brihadaranyaka Upanishads ~

[Tmymaimee]

If you found out your girlfriend was an ex bar girl who had serviced 100s of men, wouldn't you walk away?

Well I dunno.

Your ex girlfriend, by your own admission, was a Baccarra bargirl who serviced the needs of Japanese gentlemen at ฿5,000 a time before seeing the light and running into the arms of a short, bald, unattractive white man for sanctuary.

Clearly, the sheer weight of traffic that had passed through her didn't stop you calling her a "girlfriend" or moving her into your apartment, did it?

<deleted> did you expect her to do. Move in with you, stop working and jostle with the roaches for any scraps that might fall off your table??

These women served their purpose; it'd be far more noble to leave it at that rather than bad mouth them for trying to get by

Why the personal need to dig, dig, dig at me? You find it somehow satisfying? You just make crap up for your own enjoyment? She never worked at Baccara. She never ran into my arms. Where do you come up with this? I walked away…that part is true at least. Why your intense curiosity about my personal life?

Do you not find it the least bit odd that your curiosity is not reciprocal? Not once have I ever cared to look at your old posts. And again, as you are slow….hot bargirls do not just "get by". Yes, the worn out hags have nothing but the beauties choose their customer, name their price and make a lot of money. And they don't work out of beer bars.

[cosmont]

Beware that some women of the "normal" category could be more gold digger than the sex workers, at least when you take a girl in a bar, you know what she is looking for, no surprise...

[spambot]

You have written about something that everyone here recognizes instinctively.

I think most do find it difficult to articulate these sentiments in anything other than clumsy one liners that have so far done little to extend the real understanding that is valuable and important to share - You have hit the nerve with your words - They are crafted very well.

And once someone tells it well - It helps others recognize something that has (or might) happen to them and to be better prepared.

Rather than simply thinking that this new found feeling will develop into something even more beautiful with this nice girl that they have found (But has a unsettling over focus upon money) the sharing of this knowledge that many of the bar girls and many of the unemployed Esan girls do have a certain type of value system which is challenging to long term relationships helps others reach their own decisions faster

.

The way you tell it - shines a light!

So good luck in your new journey - After passing over from the dark side.

[HardenedSoul]

Well I dunno.

Your ex girlfriend, by your own admission, was a Baccarra bargirl who serviced the needs of Japanese gentlemen at ฿5,000 a time before seeing the light and running into the arms of a short, bald, unattractive white man for sanctuary.

Clearly, the sheer weight of traffic that had passed through her didn't stop you calling her a "girlfriend" or moving her into your apartment, did it?

<deleted> did you expect her to do. Move in with you, stop working and jostle with the roaches for any scraps that might fall off your table??

These women served their purpose; it'd be far more noble to leave it at that rather than bad mouth them for trying to get by

Why the personal need to dig, dig, dig at me? You find it somehow satisfying? You just make crap up for your own enjoyment? She never worked at Baccara. She never ran into my arms. Where do you come up with this? I walked awaythat part is true at least. Why your intense curiosity about my personal life?

Do you not find it the least bit odd that your curiosity is not reciprocal? Not once have I ever cared to look at your old posts. And again, as you are slow.hot bargirls do not just "get by". Yes, the worn out hags have nothing but the beauties choose their customer, name their price and make a lot of money. And they don't work out of beer bars.

I'm not digging and I'm not in the least bit curious about your personal life. I don't even know you so get over yourself.

As I said before - and I know you can read - you had a long running thread late last year in which all this information was laid out in black & white.

i remember a few details because I made a number of posts in that thread. By all means, go back and check for yourself.

Surely you're not giving me a hard time for having a bloody memory??

Anyway, look . . . you're a self-proclaimed racist with some pretty issues over women to work out - maybe resentment at having to come to Thailand to find hot BROWN tail - but at least you've found a nice one now.

Whatever you do, don't let your school teacher hear you refer to women as "hags", "whores" and any of the other choice words you use or, before you know it, you might be back at Levels/Climax with a girl trying to leave a snail-trail on your jeans.

Edited February 16, 2014 by HardenedSoul

[Tmymaimee]

I'm not necessarily resentful as much as disillusioned. Beautiful and successful Thai girls ignore me like I don't exist while I thought before they would be thrilled to date me. The bar girl sex that felt so fantastic when I came here before on holidays now feels repetitive and practiced.

The reality is that for a lot of white guys, its damn hard to meet a beautiful, normal Thai girl here as there is so much pressure on her to conform. Even today she told me up to a year ago she avoided white guys as she believed people would look down on her for being seen together.

There is just so much crap on here that its misleading while reality is different. So many girls in Thonglor look like models yet I've only seen 1 farang with a gorgeous girl since I moved here. Nobody beats them off with a stick like you read on here. And yet every other poster claims his wife is gorgeous.

[mrfaroukh]

What so you expect to get in Nana area, the Princes or what? The reason you are the provider is because they can not pay for you due to low income and many responsibilities they have towards their child and parents. You were lucky to get a good girl according to yourself, but there are many working girls who still think you have to pay for everything, so there are different people everywhere.

[poweratradio]

WOW DID YOU JUST WAKE UP IN A NEW WORLD CALLED PLANET EARTH.

The whole ranges of blame and whining you just did would be applicable to any location on this earth. Why did you feel the need to single out Thai women and a particular geographical location is beyond me.

I am sure this thread you created will have legs because so many men like you may or may not be sexual tourists to begin with thereby avoiding the police in their home towns and the higher cost of possibly health checked hookers.

I will watch for all the inane comments to your thread just like I got so bored with all the stupid comments to the How low of a budget to live in Thailand. WOWWWWWWWWWWWW!

[HardenedSoul]

Your girl may - I repeat, may - be telling you what she thinks you want to hear.

You focus too much on looks and status.

It's shallow

In fact, I reckon that if one of those Thonglor stunners you talk about approached you now and batted her false eyelashes at you, you'd chuck your school teacher in a heartbeat.

[wym]

because so many men like you may or may not be sexual tourists to begin with

I beg your pardon, we prefer to be referred to as "romantic travelers"

[wym]

I'm not necessarily resentful as much as disillusioned. Beautiful and successful Thai girls ignore me like I don't exist while I thought before they would be thrilled to date me. The bar girl sex that felt so fantastic when I came here before on holidays now feels repetitive and practiced.

The reality is that for a lot of white guys, its dam_n hard to meet a beautiful, normal Thai girl here as there is so much pressure on her to conform. Even today she told me up to a year ago she avoided white guys as she believed people would look down on her for being seen together.

There is just so much crap on here that its misleading while reality is different. So many girls in Thonglor look like models yet I've only seen 1 farang with a gorgeous girl since I moved here. Nobody beats them off with a stick like you read on here. And yet every other poster claims his wife is gorgeous.

Too funny. You're many decades too late within your parameters.

The ONLY reason a "2-6" can end up with a "7-9" - sometimes even 10 in another country is because of the wealth disparity.

That disparity has been disappearing wrt "middle class" first worlders vs urban educated Thais over the past few decades.

If you want young & really beautiful, then you have to give up educated and urban, therefore obviously need to have decent Thai language skills and hunt upcountry. As long as you don't mind that level of "relationship" it really isn't all that hard.

If you do want young & really beautiful, but she has to speak English, there are only bargirls, unless you're young & hansum & charming yourself and/or truly wealthy.

And chances are very good no matter what, that the material side of things is a lot more important than you'd like to think, even if she isn't an explicit chiseler.

Best of luck with your latest conquest, hope it lasts a while for you. . .

Edited February 16, 2014 by wym

[Ch23]

Fair play at this post. I go to Climax and Hilary regularly with the TW and have quite a few friends there. It amazes me the amount of money these girls have; new cars luxury condos, frequent holidays. The guys there compete to spend the most amount of money to show off and bed them. I don't think they have ever let me buy them a drink in all the years we have been friends.

These girls are having an amazing time and know exactly what they are doing. it makes me sick with jealousy, much more fun than my 9-5 desk job.

[SNGLIFE]

Robininbkk is spot on. It's HOW you meet them.

I lived in Jomtien 2000-2004. Met, sexed, or dated all manner of "nice" and "normal" women (many of whom I was surprised to discover moonlighted as whores on the down-low).

I met my current wife of 9 years (and counting) through mutual friends. She was a fresh from the farm factory worker considering getting into "the business" with said friends to pay for her ailing mother's care (she died, but not before I met her: Hepatitis) and toddler daughter (now age 12). After a normal courtship which included chaperoned outings and such, we married and are still going very strong.

Still, the OP should understand that TIT and not "back home" where "empowered" women are nowadays "expected" to contribute financially. Here, if the man does what he is supposed to do (be the provider), the woman will do what she is supposed to do (be the caretaker). Works great for us!

I say good on the OP if he thinks he has found a contributing mate. Please do post again when you find out about the sinsot to marry her...unless of course you are just pretending to be serious with her until it reaches that point...