up-country_sinclair Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 A pedantic concern for sure, but I thought I'd ask anyway. If someone was born in the USA and holds a US passport, what is the correct answer to the nationality question on various immigration forms? Nationality: American OR Nationality: United States of America In my opinion, United States of America seems awkward, but if you look inside a US Passport it says, "Nationality: United States of America". Anyway, I'm looking forward to the responses and reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepool Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 My passport says I am a "British Citizen" I guess you must be a "United States of America" ! Perhaps as Winston Churchill once observed, this is just an example of " two great nations being separated by a common language" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sustento Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 You're American. The United States of America is a country. I'm British not the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 (edited) I've always put AMERICAN and I always will. Of course that's what you put. Now if this was Latin America where the locals have a bug up their <deleted> about such things, I would consult the locals for what they want us to put. Edited March 4, 2014 by Jingthing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimbathewhitelion Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 I always put USA, but in heart it will always be "none of your business". I go to America about a month a year & feel a great disappointment with the ignorance of the people. All sheep...in their bliss. However I do love the food! 3 weeks pass, can't wait to leave. Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 USA isn't a nationality. I would consider that weird to put on a form asking for your nationality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up-country_sinclair Posted March 4, 2014 Author Share Posted March 4, 2014 I've always put AMERICAN and I always will. Of course that's what you put. It's hard to argue with such well thought out and reasoned logic. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 I've always put AMERICAN and I always will. Of course that's what you put. It's hard to argue with such well thought out and reasoned logic. You betcha. I'm channeling my inner Sarah Palin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up-country_sinclair Posted March 4, 2014 Author Share Posted March 4, 2014 You're American. The United States of America is a country. I agree with you, but many people in North and South America would argue that the USA has no claim to the nationality, "American". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glegolo Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 you often call yourselfs americans, while in fact you are NOT when it comes to your country. "Americans" is in the context of informing that you come from the american continent. Canadians also comes from America, and they do not call them selfs americans... So take note over there,, you come from USA, and that is what you shall write... Glegolo ps. this lesson was free of charge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 (edited) you often call yourselfs americans, while in fact you are NOT when it comes to your country. "Americans" is in the context of informing that you come from the american continent. Canadians also comes from America, and they do not call them selfs americans... So take note over there,, you come from USA, and that is what you shall write... Glegolo ps. this lesson was free of charge No. USA is not a nationality. You're asking us to give an incorrect answer. Like, what would you like to drink? I'd like to drink the pork cutlet. People already think Americans are stupid. Now some foreigners are dictating that we can't correctly answer questions about our nationality? Nice try, no cigar. Edited March 4, 2014 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 You're American. The United States of America is a country. I agree with you, but many people in North and South America would argue that the USA has no claim to the nationality, "American". So what? Is this Boliviavisa.com? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimbathewhitelion Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Reading the arguments, seems more of a pissing match from the OP. Question to the OP, are you anti-American & is it your intention to stir the pot? Another question would be, what is your home country or another would be what do you care? Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Reading the arguments, seems more of a pissing match from the OP. Question to the OP, are you anti-American & is it your intention to stir the pot? Another question would be, what is your home country or another would be what do you care? Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Oh well so much for rational debate, let's just throw in a you must be anti-american A rather childish response me thinks But to answer the question as regards filling in forms, most the guys I know just write " US citizen" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glegolo Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Reading the arguments, seems more of a pissing match from the OP. Question to the OP, are you anti-American & is it your intention to stir the pot? Another question would be, what is your home country or another would be what do you care? Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Oh well so much for rational debate, let's just throw in a you must be anti-american A rather childish response me thinks But to answer the question as regards filling in forms, most the guys I know just write " US citizen" Yes I fully agree as well of course,,, because in that sence, he is not an american.... glegolo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimbathewhitelion Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Reading the arguments, seems more of a pissing match from the OP. Question to the OP, are you anti-American & is it your intention to stir the pot? Another question would be, what is your home country or another would be what do you care? Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Oh well so much for rational debate, let's just throw in a you must be anti-americanA rather childish response me thinks But to answer the question as regards filling in forms, most the guys I know just write " US citizen" "Rational". How interesting you didn't answer the question. Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 (edited) Reading the arguments, seems more of a pissing match from the OP. Question to the OP, are you anti-American & is it your intention to stir the pot? Another question would be, what is your home country or another would be what do you care? Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Oh well so much for rational debate, let's just throw in a you must be anti-americanA rather childish response me thinks But to answer the question as regards filling in forms, most the guys I know just write " US citizen" "Rational". How interesting you didn't answer the question.Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Yes I did the OP questioned what should be written on a formSeems to me your stirring the pot by calling the OP anti American Edited March 4, 2014 by Soutpeel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 (edited) Putting U.S. citizen down on such a form (OUTSIDE of the USA) would be silly. I simply don't believe very many Americans actually do that when asked to fill in -- NATIONALITY. They aren't asking about your citizenship status. They are asking NATIONALITY. The only time you would indicate your citizenship status like that is on a U.S. based form, as in Are you a U.S. citizen? Check the box, yes or no, etc. It's not something you would write out. Yes this pedantic obsession is definitely associated with anti-Americanism, don't kid yourselves. Americans indicating their nationality as Americans are not trying to say Bolivians don't live in South America. Bolivians wouldn't put down American as their nationality, now would they? It's an accident of history that the nation of the USA is named as it is, but again the name of country is not always the name of a nationality. Are Italian-Americans, Italian-USAers? Of course not. Good grief. Cheers. On a related note, what did people from the USSR call their nationality when the USSR existed? It's been awhile. I knew some people from there back then (probably spies but what the heck) and I think I recall they called themselves RUSSIANS not USSRers. Am I wrong about that? Edited March 4, 2014 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeonjake Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 and heres me,, i just thought you were yanks,,,lol sorry boys couldnt resist jake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 and heres me,, i just thought you were yanks,,,lol sorry boys couldnt resist jake Put that on a form and make an immigration officer annoyed. Sure thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimbathewhitelion Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Putting U.S. citizen down on such a form (OUTSIDE of the USA) would be silly. I simply don't believe very many Americans actually do that when asked to fill in -- NATIONALITY. They aren't asking about your citizenship status. They are asking NATIONALITY. The only time you would indicate your citizenship status like that is on a U.S. based form, as in Are you a U.S. citizen? Check the box, yes or no, etc. It's not something you would write out. Yes this pedantic obsession is definitely associated with anti-Americanism, don't kid yourselves. Americans indicating their nationality as Americans are not trying to say Bolivians don't live in South America. Bolivians wouldn't put down American as their nationality, now would they? It's an accident of history that the nation of the USA is named as it is, but again the name of country is not always the name of a nationality. Are Italian-Americans, Italian-USAers? Of course not. Good grief. Cheers. On a related note, what did people from the USSR call their nationality when the USSR existed? It's been awhile. I knew some people from there back then (probably spies but what the heck) and I think I recall they called themselves RUSSIANS not USSRers. Am I wrong about that? To the point & well said. Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimbathewhitelion Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 and heres me,, i just thought you were yanks,,,lol sorry boys couldnt resist jake That's OK, to us yanks we consider Brits as brothers. Throw in the piss...no harm. Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Putting U.S. citizen down on such a form (OUTSIDE of the USA) would be silly. I simply don't believe very many Americans actually do that when asked to fill in -- NATIONALITY. They aren't asking about your citizenship status. They are asking NATIONALITY. The only time you would indicate your citizenship status like that is on a U.S. based form, as in Are you a U.S. citizen? Check the box, yes or no, etc. It's not something you would write out. Yes this pedantic obsession is definitely associated with anti-Americanism, don't kid yourselves. Americans indicating their nationality as Americans are not trying to say Bolivians don't live in South America. Bolivians wouldn't put down American as their nationality, now would they? It's an accident of history that the nation of the USA is named as it is, but again the name of country is not always the name of a nationality. Are Italian-Americans, Italian-USAers? Of course not. Good grief. Cheers. On a related note, what did people from the USSR call their nationality when the USSR existed? It's been awhile. I knew some people from there back then (probably spies but what the heck) and I think I recall they called themselves RUSSIANS not USSRers. Am I wrong about that? Well all I can tell Jing is that I work with numerous US citizens and have do so for many years and have seen many forms filled in and they write "US citizen" and they have not been in the US at the time and it wasn't a tick box Call me liar or anti-american if you wish....but think you better than that using the standard retort of you must be anti-american Or my other favourite of "vile anti-american rhetoric" used by another colonial cousin frequently on TV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 and heres me,, i just thought you were yanks,,,lol sorry boys couldnt resist jake But think colonial cousins get rather miffed if you call them " septics" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimbathewhitelion Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 I now definitely think this post was about stirring the pot. Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 I'm an American, and Americans think of themselves and refer to themselves as Americans, no surprise. But when it comes to things like Thai Immigration forms, what they're really asking via "Nationality" is what country are you from or what is your country of citizenship. Thus, when I see that question on Thai Immigration forms, I'll usually write "USA" or "United States". I'd think it's a comparable thing for the Brits, who probably don't write "British". I'd assume they'd write Great Britain or United Kingdom. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 I now definitely think this post was about stirring the pot. Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Why " septic" and yank mean the same thing, I believe the root of the term comes from cockney rhyming slang septic tank. ...Yank Apples and pears....stairs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailaw Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 (edited) Putting U.S. citizen down on such a form (OUTSIDE of the USA) would be silly. I simply don't believe very many Americans actually do that when asked to fill in -- NATIONALITY. They aren't asking about your citizenship status. They are asking NATIONALITY. The only time you would indicate your citizenship status like that is on a U.S. based form, as in Are you a U.S. citizen? Check the box, yes or no, etc. It's not something you would write out. Yes this pedantic obsession is definitely associated with anti-Americanism, don't kid yourselves. Americans indicating their nationality as Americans are not trying to say Bolivians don't live in South America. Bolivians wouldn't put down American as their nationality, now would they? It's an accident of history that the nation of the USA is named as it is, but again the name of country is not always the name of a nationality. Are Italian-Americans, Italian-USAers? Of course not. Good grief. Cheers. On a related note, what did people from the USSR call their nationality when the USSR existed? It's been awhile. I knew some people from there back then (probably spies but what the heck) and I think I recall they called themselves RUSSIANS not USSRers. Am I wrong about that? My US Passport, on the 4th line of the first (picture) page says under "Nationality/Nationalité/Nacionalidad UNITED STATES OF AMERICA" That takes care of it for me, at least as far as what governments expect a US citizen to write when asked for his/her "nationality" -- just repeat what is written in your US Passport. Next..... Edited March 4, 2014 by Thailaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 I'm an American, and Americans think of themselves and refer to themselves as Americans, no surprise. But when it comes to things like Thai Immigration forms, what they're really asking via "Nationality" is what country are you from or what is your country of citizenship. Thus, when I see that question on Thai Immigration forms, I'll usually write "USA" or "United States". I'd think it's a comparable thing for the Brits, who probably don't write "British". I'd assume they'd write Great Britain or United Kingdom. Well if Scotland gets its way a little less of a united kingdom me thinks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimbathewhitelion Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Isn't the OP related to just a form? The USA is and however written will be the same. The UK on a side note hopefully will resolve itself. Ireland needs to be whole. Scotland should also be freed. Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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