Jatuporn as UDD chief may be hardline

[Sakeopete]

Khmer Rouge = Thai Rouge same same, once anyone with a brain is eliminated they will follow great leader Kim Jung- Un Thaksin. Both have that square dictator head maybe they are related?

[Bakseeda]

what a pile of complete nonsense

what exactly is their goal - does anyone really know apart from getting Thaksin back on Thai soil with all charges dropped

and what on earth is a UDD political school - sounds like something straight out of N. Korea

If these people get any traction it will be the end of Thailand as we know it

These red leaders talk the talk while the money is filling their bank accounts - but can they walk the walk or is it all hot air

The main aim is to protect the democratic government of Thailand. They have seen all but one of the democratic governments over the last 10 years ended by either military or judicial coups.

It is true that many of them would like to see Taksin back as they believe that he was unjustly removed by the Amart people in Bangkok.

I agree that it will be the end of Thailand as we know it. It will lead to the end of the Amart control and allow Thailand to become a real democracy.

Dr Bruce, pray tell.... what are those two things hanging between your legs..?

[ginjag]

what a pile of complete nonsense

what exactly is their goal - does anyone really know apart from getting Thaksin back on Thai soil with all charges dropped

and what on earth is a UDD political school - sounds like something straight out of N. Korea

If these people get any traction it will be the end of Thailand as we know it

These red leaders talk the talk while the money is filling their bank accounts - but can they walk the walk or is it all hot air

The main aim is to protect the democratic government of Thailand. They have seen all but one of the democratic governments over the last 10 years ended by either military or judicial coups.

It is true that many of them would like to see Taksin back as they believe that he was unjustly removed by the Amart people in Bangkok.

I agree that it will be the end of Thailand as we know it. It will lead to the end of the Amart control and allow Thailand to become a real democracy.

Dr Bruce, pray tell.... what are those two things hanging between your legs..?

Dingle berries ???

Edited March 21, 2014 by ginjag

[Baerboxer]

An excellent and timely report....Which I read after complaining in another Post, about media inattention to preparation by pro-Democracy forces. Preparation for what is perceived as being only a matter-of-time, before the anti-democrats strike out via the so-called independent organizations, trying to characterize a coup as not being a coup.....With self-righteous indignation, with solemn declarations trying the spin of law-abiding, normative groups and their user-friendly judiciary, as simply doing their job.

No-body is fooled by that, and the preparation of those they are trying to fool, is apparent in this piece.......Although in reality, it is the International audience they are trying to fool....That is why they chose not to use the military to do their deed.

The penchant of the Opposition to apply terms such as "hardline' and 'hardcore' to the leaders of the pro-democracy movement, thereby trying to make it appear as anarchic, is also very obvious....When one tries to attribute the same thing to their leaders, by calling the likes of AV, Chaun Leek Pai (sp?) and others as being hardcore and anarchic, it elicits all sorts of self-righteous indignation........Ever heard the saying what is good for the goose, is good for the gander?

Sad. You still insist on labeling the factions pro and anti democracy. Wake up and smell the roses - neither side has an interest in democracy. One side is hell bent on being run for the benefit of one family and their gang. The other want the old feudal hierarchy based on old money families rule to prevail.

The Shins are no more interested in democracy and the rule of law than anyone else other than how it can be manipulated to keep them in power and line their pockets.

If were not so, we'd have seen red shirts out supporting the farmers. But their leaders won't allow that because they know where the money has gone,

[uty6543]

How dreadful is this?

Sometimes I feel like I want to go down to BKK and throw a bucket of water over Prayuth and the rest of the military top brass and wake the lot of them up.

Can't they see what is going on under their very noses?

If this is not nipped in the bud, then the UDD to Thailand will be as synonymous as Al Qaeda or Taliban is to the middle east.

All the same setup as the pro secessionist and declaration of war speech last month in Korat that raised a lot of eyebrows, only they are using stupid cover up tactics to make their movement sound more muted. But the meaning is exactly the same.

These will be no different to Taliban schools of brainwashing with Al Qaeda style training camps.

Thaksin must have linked up with a few nutters in Dubai and 'donated' a few million for advice on how to start and train a terrorist group. It wouldn't surprise me at all.

If the army do not crush this right now and the courts not outlaw the UDD and rule that any kind of similar setup is unlawful and a criminal offense, then Thailand is going to be a wasteland of terrorism.

The list of names is in the OP, these need to be taken out right now and the lot of them locked up without delay. Then anyone who emerges to take their place should be swiftly taken out also.

'self defense and physical training my ass'..... That is a militia training program and nothing less.

'Weapons of intelligence?.... That's a good one, they intend to counter any form of coup totally unarmed... They know they need arms, they learned that in 2010.

Here comes Thailand's Al Qaeda, and it will be like Pattini and Yala X 50 and I can see that the army will sit on their until it is way too late.

And all this time, Yingluck and the PTP will fail to denounce this. (because they are behind it).

Thailand..... As a country, YOU SUCK!!!

I am on the verge of leaving this place now, as soon as this militia make their move, it will be game over Thailand... it is beyond all help and before you say 'good riddance' or 'don't slam the door on the way out' I will wager that most farang will be following me before the year is out and Thai tourism will come to a complete end. This place will be thrown back 200 years.

Afghanistan with a smile.

I think we are living in worry times with more bloodshed to come before this is finished.

If you believed half of what your saying you would have left already.

Edited March 21, 2014 by uty6543

[Dogmatix]

It would be a good thing if they could unify the various Red-Shirt factions and start working together for democracy.

They just need to keep the extreme elements under control.

Edit: spelling

What type of democratic system do they use to elect their leaders? What was the process through which Thida was ousted from the leadership and replaced with Jatuporn?

[dickyknee]

It would be a good thing if they could unify the various Red-Shirt factions and start working together for democracy.

They just need to keep the extreme elements under control.

Edit: spelling

they are already united, it's in the name.

[smedly]

you know what really bothers me about Thai politics and various movements - the buzz words

For two years we had PTP UDD and Thaksin throwing the "reconciliation" word around and attaching it to almost every cheating lying thieving action they had taken and here we are 2 years down the line and you never hear it mentioned - I wonder why that is

Then you have this UDD movement and their buzz word is "democracy" so if they call all their actions in the name of democracy then somehow people will believe that that is what they are about and somehow they are just and honourable - are they kidding !!!

I'd bet a pile of money that if you asked Jatuporn to go on live TV and describe to everyone what his understanding of democracy is - he'd have about one sentence containing the words "people" "vote" "election" and that would be it ......end,

These people use the democracy word hundreds of times a day and they have no clue what it actually means - it's even in the title of their movement and yet everything they stand for is so far removed from democracy it's incredible - but of course they might just get away with it because my guess would be only about 5% of Thai population understand what it is.

People on this forum ask why falangs have discussions about what is going on here because it's bone of our business and we have no say in the matter, while the latter might be true we certainly have an interest in what is going on if we have chosen to live here - we definitely don't want to see this country going down the toilet especially those who have families businesses and properties here - it would all be lost

So that is why Thai politics is such a hot topic on this falang discussion forum and most likely have a better understanding of it than most Thai's do

[ggold]

The UDD and the NPV are rapidly becoming the coup-mongers Fryslan boppe keeps on prattling about.

There is only one goal of these groups, and that is it to create mayhem. Onde the mayhem on the streets of BKK starts, Chalerm and his band of criminals will instruct the police not to take any actions, so in the end the army is being forced to take action. Once that has happened the red dictatorship can shout to the world that the "democratically elected govt" of Thailand is again forced out by a military coup. Therefore it is important to let the courts handle these militia groups, and not the army. By keeping a low profile, I think Gen Prayut is doing the right thing for Thailand in the long run....

The military won't coup. They will just declare martial law and should point to the world the assembling of a terrorist network with schools and training camps etc.... The world will see it as a good move to not coup and wipe out this group.

So declaring Martial Law is not a coup? I think you are totally over reacting with your assertion that Thailand will disintegrate into another Afganistan! What Tripe

Edited March 21, 2014 by ggold

[seajae]

so now the reds want red schools where they can teach/brainwash the kids/people in red propaganda, sounds very much like the muslim terrorist schools/north korea where they teach that only muslims/kim supporters should be allowed to live. Does this mean we will see the reds starting to do mass shootings of anti red supporters, anyone not abiding by red regulations jailed or executed, special camps set up for those not supporting thaksin, really makes us wonder.

[givenall]

It would be a good thing if they could unify the various Red-Shirt factions and start working together for democracy.

They just need to keep the extreme elements under control.

Edit: spelling

he is a chicken shxx. at the first sign of trouble will leave Thailand and hide.

[Mentors]

what a pile of complete nonsense

what exactly is their goal - does anyone really know apart from getting Thaksin back on Thai soil with all charges dropped

and what on earth is a UDD political school - sounds like something straight out of N. Korea

If these people get any traction it will be the end of Thailand as we know it

These red leaders talk the talk while the money is filling their bank accounts - but can they walk the walk or is it all hot air

The main aim is to protect the democratic government of Thailand. They have seen all but one of the democratic governments over the last 10 years ended by either military or judicial coups.

It is true that many of them would like to see Taksin back as they believe that he was unjustly removed by the Amart people in Bangkok.

I agree that it will be the end of Thailand as we know it. It will lead to the end of the Amart control and allow Thailand to become a real democracy.

.

Many silent people hope for this. Me too

Edited March 21, 2014 by Mentors

[seajae]

Here is a scarey article from Global Post. I don't know that newspaper and whether it is a serious paper or not.

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/asia-pacific/thailand/140320/time-it-s-serious-thailand-s-upcountry-preparing-

wow, dont you just love their nick names, rambo, the sword, ooooooh, I wonder if one is going to call himself "biggus dickus". These people are pathetic although I did notibce they claim the police are going to supply all the assualt weapons etc for them because they are on the red side, nothing surprising here and most people already know it. What it is, is a good reason to de arm the police and remove all weapons from the stations if they are going to be readily handed over to red terrorists, where is tarit in all this and why hasnt he issued arrest warreants for those claiming this is what they are organizing, oh thats right, he is one of them too.

Claims in article made by:

Pichit Tamoon(ex cop) - the sword

Suphon Attawong - rambo

Mahanon Khawang- dj freedon bird

Edited March 21, 2014 by seajae

[Scamper]

" The Royal Red Force, run by the UDD, the Community Radio Red Shirts, the Independent Red Shirts, the Provincial Red Shirts, who are the major force for the red shirts in the capital, and the Underground Red Shirts. Most of the Underground Red Shirts are based overseas and have the major goal of overthrowing the feudal system. The DPV is to be reckoned with because it is well-financed and led by the real commanders equipped with a fighting spirit and strategies - Kwanchai and Suporn. "

Let's back up here a bit. Suporn is listed as the Prime Minister's deputy secretary-general. What in the world is he doing in this list ? What in the world is Yingluck doing ? Just read this paragraph. It is a whole network. Now we have a new offshoot to the UDD - the DPV. UDD political schools ? Are we back to that one ? The public cannot turn a blind eye to this. Everyone who sees the video of the speeches of the UDD secessionist rally of February 23 will feel sick to their stomach. Once is really enough. Yingluck assumes we all know about facebook. What about youtube ? Does she really think the public is so uniformed that they can take what she says about this seriously ? We all know that Jatuporn is off the charts. As is Ko Tee, Kwanchai, and Nattawut. What they advocate is unconstitutional. Period. And for Yingluck to have a deputy secretary-general in the thick of it - is beyond anything that Rod Serling could come up with. Pheu Thai has no moral compass. In fact, no compass period.

[mikemac]

An excellent and timely report....Read after I complained in another Post, about media inattention to preparation by pro-Democracy forces. Preparation for what is perceived as being only a matter-of-time, before the anti-democrats strike out via the so-called independent organizations, trying to characterize a coup as not being a coup.....With self-righteous indignation, trying the spin of law-abiding. normative groups and their user-friendly judiciary simply solemnly doing their job.

No-body is fooled by that, and the preparation of those they are trying to fool, is apparent in this piece.......Although in reality, it is the International audience they are trying to fool....That is why they chose not to use the military to do their deed.

The penchant of the Opposition to apply terms such as "hardline' and 'hardcore' to the leaders of the pro-democracy movement, thereby trying to make it appear as anarchic, is also very obvious....When one tries to attribute the same thing to their leaders, by calling the likes of AV, Chaun Leek Pai (sp?) and others as being hardcore and anarchic, it elicits all sorts of self-righteous indignation........Ever heard the saying what is good for the goose, is good for the gander?

Are you seriously comparing Abhisit and Chuan Leek Pai to Jatuporn?

@ whybother - Are you seriously reading his posts ? From what I have heard it is nothing but longwinded baloney.

[Just1Voice]

Interesting to see Jutaporn's next move since the courts just ruled the Feb elections "null & void".

[Morch]

So Thida was a moderate?

Posted 2014-02-23 13:02:28

RT@waanspeaking: UDD Thida: Reds "have 2 choices. If we don't win, they'll kill us. It's between death and victory." thairath.co.th/content/pol/40…

http://limitfitness.com/forum/topic/706331-thailand-live-sunday-23-feb-2014/page-2#entry7477686

Options, options....

The number of red-shirt factions seems to be great and are not controlled by UDD directly as they have their own areas of control.

However, the movement could be classified into the following five big groups, with each having several sub-groups.

The Royal Red Force, run by the UDD, the Community Radio Red Shirts, the Independent Red Shirts, the Provincial Red Shirts, who are the major force for the red shirts in the capital, and the Underground Red Shirts. Most of the Underground Red Shirts are based overseas and have the major goal of overthrowing the feudal system.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=gb_qHP7VaZE

Also incorporates the recruiting part...

Edited March 21, 2014 by Morch

[zydeco]

The UDD, under Jatuporn's leadership, is expected to strike more aggressively and with well-planned moves. It has outlined strategies aimed at unifying all factions of the red-shirt movement and expand its base nationwide through the establishment of committees at all levels - from provinces to districts and tambons to villages.

"Committees at all levels" aka soviets

Edited March 21, 2014 by zydeco

[mikemac]

It would be a good thing if they could unify the various Red-Shirt factions and start working together for democracy.

They just need to keep the extreme elements under control.

Edit: spelling

he is a chicken shxx. at the first sign of trouble will leave Thailand and hide.

Who ? Dr Bruce ?

[Phatcharanan]

Thailand..... As a country, YOU SUCK!!!

I will wager that most farang will be following me before the year is out and Thai tourism will come to a complete end. This place will be thrown back 200 years.

Afghanistan with a smile.

How much ya wanna wager?

[bkkjames]

So I see the UDD have called a massive demonstration tomorrow in Pattaya (according to webfacts breaking news).

[mikemac]

Here is a scarey article from Global Post. I don't know that newspaper and whether it is a serious paper or not.

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/asia-pacific/thailand/140320/time-it-s-serious-thailand-s-upcountry-preparing-

wow, dont you just love their nick names, rambo, the sword, ooooooh, I wonder if one is going to call himself "biggus dickus". These people are pathetic although I did notibce they claim the police are going to supply all the assualt weapons etc for them because they are on the red side, nothing surprising here and most people already know it. What it is, is a good reason to de arm the police and remove all weapons from the stations if they are going to be readily handed over to red terrorists, where is tarit in all this and why hasnt he issued arrest warreants for those claiming this is what they are organizing, oh thats right, he is one of them too.

Claims in article made by:

Pichit Tamoon(ex cop) - the sword

Suphon Attawong - rambo

Mahanon Khawang- dj freedon bird

"biggus dickus" Just thinking about that great scene makes me chuckle even after all those years.

But seriously I doubt if any of the red scumbags would deserve a moniker like that, more like "mai mee kai".

[seajae]

Here is a scarey article from Global Post. I don't know that newspaper and whether it is a serious paper or not.

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/asia-pacific/thailand/140320/time-it-s-serious-thailand-s-upcountry-preparing-

wow, dont you just love their nick names, rambo, the sword, ooooooh, I wonder if one is going to call himself "biggus dickus". These people are pathetic although I did notibce they claim the police are going to supply all the assualt weapons etc for them because they are on the red side, nothing surprising here and most people already know it. What it is, is a good reason to de arm the police and remove all weapons from the stations if they are going to be readily handed over to red terrorists, where is tarit in all this and why hasnt he issued arrest warreants for those claiming this is what they are organizing, oh thats right, he is one of them too.

Claims in article made by:

Pichit Tamoon(ex cop) - the sword

Suphon Attawong - rambo

Mahanon Khawang- dj freedon bird

"biggus dickus" Just thinking about that great scene makes me chuckle even after all those years.

But seriously I doubt if any of the red scumbags would deserve a moniker like that, more like "mai mee kai".

hahahahahaha, sorry mate, could resist it. After reading their so called " AKA's" I was laughing my ar*e off and it just popped into my head like the puffed marshmallow man did in GB, after alll, they like names that are really descriptive even if they are full of sh*t so this one was a distinct possibility

[smileydude]

"We only want to arm people with intelligence and provide them self-defence skills and physical fitness training,'' Suporn said.

Also basket-weaving, flower-arranging and balloon-twisting.

Don't forget shot put throwing but instead of steel balls they might prefer grenades?

[MunterHunter]

Dr Bruce, pray tell.... what are those two things hanging between your legs..?

Noi and Lek, last seen somewhere on Nana?