Monitoring bands to keep scammers out of Suvarnabhumi Airport

[xerostar]

Not completely familiar with that sort of device (mind you, I was never ordered to wear one!), but couldn't a culprit just take it off before entering the airport? Or is the ankle band locked in some way and the device would transmit a warning signal if the wearer would try to remove it with force? What's the consequence if one does remove it? Will there be a hefty fine? What if the battery runs out? What if a wearer is entering the airport nevertheless? Will they just be shown the door or will there be a hefty fine on top of that? Does the airport have enough staff to chase after monitoring device wearers who constantly defy their ban from the promises and return over and over again? How many times does a wearer have to be caught and escorted off the premises before they are finally arrested for good and sent to court?

Questions over questions.

and another one - can you take a shower with it?

Taking a shower with it on engages the taser device ! Fzzzzzzttt - Zapp ! End of story !

Edited March 29, 2014 by xerostar

[circusman]

This idea is as futile as they come, it's akin to fitting bolting horses with tracking devices,

AFTER they have bolted... this devise suppose to keep the subject IN, not OUT...

Have you ever heard of an idea that you LIKED?

[Docno]

Look, these things have become very sophisticated and are considered very effective. I've seen them on people in Singapore on a couple of occasions, and that's a country that doesn't mess around with bad tech. They have GPS tracking and can be used to confine a person to a certain area or to simply track movement (they can send a singal back to a server at regular intervals). [You folks are aware, right, that your movements during the day can be tracked using your cell phone? There are apps that will plot it to Google maps... so the tech already exists in your pocket.]

The things aren't easy to remove, and if they are removed, an alarm is triggered. You'd also be in a nip of trouble when you reported for your next probation meeting. They're waterproof also. And there's even a version that does transdermal monitoring to see if the person has been drinking alcohol.

[bkkjames]

Look, these things have become very sophisticated and are considered very effective. I've seen them on people in Singapore on a couple of occasions, and that's a country that doesn't mess around with bad tech. They have GPS tracking and can be used to confine a person to a certain area or to simply track movement (they can send a singal back to a server at regular intervals). [You folks are aware, right, that your movements during the day can be tracked using your cell phone? There are apps that will plot it to Google maps... so the tech already exists in your pocket.]

The things aren't easy to remove, and if they are removed, an alarm is triggered. You'd also be in a nip of trouble when you reported for your next probation meeting. They're waterproof also. And there's even a version that does transdermal monitoring to see if the person has been drinking alcohol.

I think the 007 variety is much more fashionable. The chip in the tooth or under the skin. These things a kinda like first versions of mobile phones aka bricks. Won't catch on and become mainstream IMO.

Put them on a few soi dogs and run a test first. If they survive a few weeks of dodging traffic and multiple fights then deploy them up one scale on the evolutionary ladder.

[Docno]

This idea is as futile as they come, it's akin to fitting bolting horses with tracking devices,

AFTER they have bolted... this devise suppose to keep the subject IN, not OUT...

Not at all. They can be used to monitor movement not just confine people to certain areas. In that respect, they operate on a similar principle to the cellphone you carry with you (which also allows YOUR movements to be plotted), but its waterproof and not easily removed. Can be very easily be set up to trigger an alarm when a person enters an out-of-bounds area which is why they're often used with people who have a restraining order on them.

[Docno]

Look, these things have become very sophisticated and are considered very effective. I've seen them on people in Singapore on a couple of occasions, and that's a country that doesn't mess around with bad tech. They have GPS tracking and can be used to confine a person to a certain area or to simply track movement (they can send a singal back to a server at regular intervals). [You folks are aware, right, that your movements during the day can be tracked using your cell phone? There are apps that will plot it to Google maps... so the tech already exists in your pocket.]

The things aren't easy to remove, and if they are removed, an alarm is triggered. You'd also be in a nip of trouble when you reported for your next probation meeting. They're waterproof also. And there's even a version that does transdermal monitoring to see if the person has been drinking alcohol.

I think the 007 variety is much more fashionable. The chip in the tooth or under the skin. These things a kinda like first versions of mobile phones aka bricks. Won't catch on and become mainstream IMO.

Put them on a few soi dogs and run a test first. If they survive a few weeks of dodging traffic and multiple fights then deploy them up one scale on the evolutionary ladder.

I think you're being too negative. They could make them all 'designy' like Swatches. Or better yet, get Rolex to produce the housing...

Edited March 29, 2014 by Docno

[bkkjames]

Look, these things have become very sophisticated and are considered very effective. I've seen them on people in Singapore on a couple of occasions, and that's a country that doesn't mess around with bad tech. They have GPS tracking and can be used to confine a person to a certain area or to simply track movement (they can send a singal back to a server at regular intervals). [You folks are aware, right, that your movements during the day can be tracked using your cell phone? There are apps that will plot it to Google maps... so the tech already exists in your pocket.]

The things aren't easy to remove, and if they are removed, an alarm is triggered. You'd also be in a nip of trouble when you reported for your next probation meeting. They're waterproof also. And there's even a version that does transdermal monitoring to see if the person has been drinking alcohol.

I think the 007 variety is much more fashionable. The chip in the tooth or under the skin. These things a kinda like first versions of mobile phones aka bricks. Won't catch on and become mainstream IMO.

Put them on a few soi dogs and run a test first. If they survive a few weeks of dodging traffic and multiple fights then deploy them up one scale on the evolutionary ladder.

I think you're being pessimistic. They could make them all 'designy' like Swatches. Or better yet, get Rolex to produce the housing...

exactly, just curious, are you the farang in the photo? lol

[tiffanystoyz]

Do they explode if they break the rules?

[Tomtomtom69]

Out of curiosity: what are the scams at the airport? Serious question as I have never had anything happen apart from taxi drivers not wanting to turn on the meter.

True, me either. But it's so easy to avoid scammers at the airport, even if they do exist. Why do so many foreigners get sucked in? Just get a normal taxi, the train or rent a car, just like you would do at home!

[sirchai]

A foreign technician shows how the electronic monitoring system can be used at a press conference at Suvarnabhumi Airport yesterday.

Oh my Buddha. Do you also see the loss of face in their eyes? A Thai wouldn't get it, what we're using for outside prisoners already a long time.

Hope the farlang has a work permit for doing so.

Edited March 29, 2014 by sirchai

[razer]

So ... they cut the tag off and go their merry way. What will the government do?

[Rooney860]

It gets better here in Thailand, what next, people stopping at red lights!!!!!

[mrtoad]

I wonder who will get the contract to provide these? Potentially a very nice little earner.

[MMarlow]

This idea is as futile as they come, it's akin to fitting bolting horses with tracking devices,

AFTER they have bolted... this devise suppose to keep the subject IN, not OUT...

Futility personified. They're supposed to provide the location of the wearer, not keep anyone in or out, that would be the job of a locked door.

[MMarlow]

I wonder who will get the contract to provide these? Potentially a very nice little earner.

The supplier? What business is not meant to be a nice little earner?

[lostinisaan]

Why don't they wrap Chinese tablets around them?

[lostinisaan]

A foreign technician shows how the electronic monitoring system can be used at a press conference at Suvarnabhumi Airport yesterday.

Oh my Buddha. Do you also see the loss of face in their eyes? A Thai wouldn't get it, what we're using for outside prisoners already a long time.

Hope the farlang has a work permit for doing so.

They found my unit I had gotten from a German judge and kept it at the airport. Now the manager is wearing it.

Please see attached photos. The unit that was taken away from me by Thai authorities and Indian woman who want to get rid off these units.

George Orwell would be surprised.

Edited March 29, 2014 by lostinisaan

[DaveHKT]

It gets better here in Thailand, what next, people stopping at red lights!!!!!

Now you're just being silly

[sirchai]

It gets better here in Thailand, what next, people stopping at red lights!!!!!

Only at those that are out of service.Makes sense, doesn't it?

[sirchai]

A foreign technician shows how the electronic monitoring system can be used at a press conference at Suvarnabhumi Airport yesterday.

Oh my Buddha. Do you also see the loss of face in their eyes? A Thai wouldn't get it, what we're using for outside prisoners already a long time.

Hope the farlang has a work permit for doing so.

They found my unit I had gotten from a German judge and kept it at the airport. Now the manager is wearing it.

Please see attached photos. The unit that was taken away from me by Thai authorities and Indian woman who want to get rid off these units.

George Orwell would be surprised.

I'll report you to sexy Angela Merkel and you'll have to date her.

[Rorri]

ezzra, on 29 Mar 2014 - 08:38, said:

This idea is as futile as they come, it's akin to fitting bolting horses with tracking devices,

AFTER they have bolted... this devise suppose to keep the subject IN, not OUT...

The article isn't clear on the bracelet, there are many types, some use GPS, some use a small receiver (eg those you see on TV shows for home detention), some use proximity sensors and some use the mobile network, If there is no law saying people can be "tagged" then what they are doing could be illegal, also, depending on the system, who will monitor the batteries in the bracelets. Besides if this is only for Suvarnabhumi airport, then by wrapping the bracelet in tin foil will defeat detection.

[Thai at Heart]

They are using tags for this? <deleted>?

Of course a registered RFID chip and card pin would be too intrusive??????

[mrtoad]

I wonder who will get the contract to provide these? Potentially a very nice little earner.

The supplier? What business is not meant to be a nice little earner?

You not been around long??

Think about the 30% tea money in the offering, and who will the supplier be connected to?

Just saying

[sirchai]

So how does it work - wake up take a shower - put on my collar and head to work?

Now and again I don't mind to kick a football but will this affect my performance. If I wear it to the mall will I set off all the store alarms?

Will the additional weight make me walk differently? What if I have a pacemaker? Will it affect my wifi?

At the airport, will they now introduce a pant-leg check to see if I am wearing mine or not?

Does it come in other colours?

Yes.

[brit1984]

I am quite sure this tag will not stop the scammers entering BKK airport.

I am completely sure it will not stop them committing crime.

There are other airports / places they can find tourists in Thailand.

Edited March 29, 2014 by brit1984

[bulekee]

Just woken up from mid afternoon sleep.What topic are we on.???????????????

[bkkjames]

The whole looks like a make work project - need to have a big new office filled with minions to monitor scammers going to the toilet.

[skippybangkok]

Silly question : - faraday cage

What if you wrap them in Silver foil ?

[bangon04]

This idea is as futile as they come, it's akin to fitting bolting horses with tracking devices,

AFTER they have bolted... this devise suppose to keep the subject IN, not OUT...

Well what do you expect - it is a stupid Farang idea to use these, so of course the ever-resourceful Thais will find a way to defeat the system/device.

The enforcement will be down to the Royal Thai Police, so we can all imagine how effective it will be....

[HerbalEd]

Thank goodness they gave us that close-up photo of the sock.

If they hadn't done that I wouldn't have understood the security tagging system at all.

The message to criminals is clear ; the gloves have come off and now the airport authorities will sock it to you.

Poor attempt at humour, but many thanks for not using one of those silly laughing-man emoticons.

What makes a bad joke even worse is when the joker laughs at his own joke ... and no one else does.