ATF Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 The horn needs to be moved, the electric connection on the rear brake done better and put some padding in the seat for the pillion. ...otherwise it looks good! Instead of going potato potato at idle this one will be poppadom poppadom! Not a V Rod but a V Indaloo! 50hp from a 750cc engine am I missing something here? 58hp at the back wheel! That's not bad for a baby Harley. OK 58hp at the back wheel isn't too bad considering it's dragging 250kgs wet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BirdsandBooze Posted April 5, 2014 Author Share Posted April 5, 2014 The horn needs to be moved, the electric connection on the rear brake done better and put some padding in the seat for the pillion. ...otherwise it looks good! Instead of going potato potato at idle this one will be poppadom poppadom! Not a V Rod but a V Indaloo! 50hp from a 750cc engine am I missing something here? 58hp at the back wheel! That's not bad for a baby Harley. OK 58hp at the back wheel isn't too bad considering it's dragging 250kgs wet. Harley claim 480 lbs (217 kg) wet weight. With good torque it'll have a reasonable turn of speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eezergood Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 any word on prices? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ll2 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 58 hp on a 250 kg harley must sound amazing for you guys. but what i see is a porky underpowered bike made in india. harley needs to work more on xr1200 and release it again. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BirdsandBooze Posted April 6, 2014 Author Share Posted April 6, 2014 58 hp on a 250 kg harley must sound amazing for you guys. but what i see is a porky underpowered bike made in india. harley needs to work more on xr1200 and release it again. Harley Street 217kgs wet and 58hp at the back wheel. Honda CBR500R 193kgs wet and 43hp at the rear wheel. Performance should be pretty similar with the HD edging it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllanB Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 (edited) Why have they called it the "Harley Street", that is a famous street is London where the do tit jobs? So you order one and then tell your mates "I am having a tit job." That's not cool, even in this day and age. Edited April 7, 2014 by AllanB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H1w4yR1da Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Not a V Rod but a V Indaloo! 50hp from a 750cc engine am I missing something here?A 50hp Hardley?My electric toothbrush has more power! Suzuki GSX-R1000 L3 182 hp in-line 4 Superbike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seedy Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 (edited) ^ See Post #35 Laff at the Big Wing Edited April 7, 2014 by seedy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoonman Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 (edited) I wonder if these will be assembled in Thailand at the new assembly Facility Harley is looking to set up ? Edited April 7, 2014 by Spoonman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seedy Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 (edited) I wonder if these will be assembled in Thailand at the new assembly Facility Harley is looking to set up ? Good question. Post #27 said Bawal India is the only other manufacturing plant. Would be nice if they do tho' - opens the way for a lower priced HD across the range, with a little luck. Edited April 7, 2014 by seedy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BirdsandBooze Posted April 7, 2014 Author Share Posted April 7, 2014 I wonder if these will be assembled in Thailand at the new assembly Facility Harley is looking to set up ? Good question. Post #27 said Bawal India is the only other manufacturing plant. Would be nice if they do tho' - opens the way for a lower priced HD across the range, with a little luck. If built in India the sari guard would be the first thing chucked in the bin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seedy Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Followed closely by those fork gaiters !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eezergood Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Followed closely by those fork gaiters !!! The rest, fear not, will rattle itself off within the first 50km! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DILLIGAD Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Not a V Rod but a V Indaloo! 50hp from a 750cc engine am I missing something here?A 50hp Hardley?My electric toothbrush has more power! Suzuki GSX-R1000 L3 182 hp in-line 4 Superbike Smile whilst you still have teeth! 555Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ll2 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 58 hp on a 250 kg harley must sound amazing for you guys. but what i see is a porky underpowered bike made in india. harley needs to work more on xr1200 and release it again. Harley Street 217kgs wet and 58hp at the back wheel. Honda CBR500R 193kgs wet and 43hp at the rear wheel. Performance should be pretty similar with the HD edging it. so you really believe that?hahahss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ll2 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 (edited) ^ See Post #35 Laff at the Big Wing haha one more here. our seedy character. do you really scare that much from dogs? harley might go ahead until the next curve/turn or until something falls off. Edited April 10, 2014 by ll2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BirdsandBooze Posted April 10, 2014 Author Share Posted April 10, 2014 Someone's out enjoying their afternoon (s)troll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ll2 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 (edited) Someone's out enjoying their afternoon (s)troll it is way past afternoon. you stuck on the bar stool? just laughing on what you write, you dont? Edited April 10, 2014 by ll2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard-BKK Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 You both are aware you compare two completely different machines...??? It's like comparing a farming tractor with a Ferarri, on paper the amount of horsepower looks pretty similar with the exception that the Ferarri has to do more than twice the rpm to get at max horsepower, and the tractor wins on the amount of torque.... Still riding a Ferarri at maximum performance will probably scare the shit out of a average person, which maximum performance on a farming tractor is something around 60km/h. The Harley-Davidson Street 750 is a cruiser, and the Honda CBR500R is a wannabe sportsbike (and not get me wrong it's sporty).... I always had a problem with people buying a Harley and trying to justify the purchase by trying to convince that the motorcycle could actual put some performance on the tarmac... Sorry, I have a Harley-Davidson Sportster XL1200 and enjoy to ride it, but I would never compare the 1200cc V-twin with a Ducati 1198 that makes me just laugh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seedy Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 (edited) The comments were in reply to HP, nothing else. 58 is more than 50 which is more than 43. Any comments not directly related to this, label as troll. Edited April 10, 2014 by seedy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YipYipYa123 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 just as an example a versys only has 59hp and its plenty fast for most people and its not even a cruiser ,but its tuned for torque and it pulls like a train a ninja 650 only has 65hp from the same engine ,a bit less torque but a bit more hp and higher top end speed the harley is lightweight cruiser (light in cruiser terms ,not sportbike terms ) so i suppose 50hp will do what its required to do ....... horses for courses and all that , i dont suppose anyone will buy one for 'racing performance anyway ' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard-BKK Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 To say it more clearly you cannot compare a rabbit with a turtle... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BirdsandBooze Posted April 11, 2014 Author Share Posted April 11, 2014 The comments were in reply to HP, nothing else. 58 is more than 50 which is more than 43. Any comments not directly related to this, label as troll. You are right Seedy, unfortunately some feel the need to try and derail any subject they don't agree with, hence the reason many of the sensible members don't bother to contribute anything to the forum nowadays. To bracket a CBR500R with a Ferrari is just plain bizarre, same as using an HD XL1200 against a Ducati 1198 as neither of these bikes are 'cooking' beginners bike like the Street or Honda CB500R and are in completely opposite categories. Right, I'm throwing no more juicy bones 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seedy Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Yeah, I hear you. The original post was that a toothbrush has more than 50 hp, then another poster chimed in with the underpowered bit. No comparison made by me except for the original subject matter. Who would compare a HD with a Honda anyway ?? Except maybe a FLHTCU with a Gold Wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubberSideDown Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 There's evidence of lack if due diligence on both sides- the Cycle World article has the actual wet weight of 503lbs (just over 228kg)- on this thread we have claims of 480lbs to 550lbs- this I something that continually bothers me on TV, the posting of incorrect info in the face of easily-verifiable facts- nobody wants to spend two minutes vetting their posts. SPECIFICATIONS2015 Harley-Davidson Street 750 GENERALPRICE$7499ENGINE TYPELiquid-cooled 749cc 60-degree V-twin BORE & STROKE85.0 x 66.0mm INDUCTIONMikuni EFI 38mm COMPRESSION RATIO10.5:1 VALVE TRAINFour valves per cylinder, sohc TRANSMISSIONSix-speed manual FINAL DRIVEBelt FRONT SUSPENSIONFork REAR SUSPENSIONTwin rear shocks FRONT BRAKESingle disc, dual-piston caliper REAR BRAKESingle disc, dual-piston caliper FRONT TIRE100/80R-17REAR TIRE140/75R-15 RAKE32.0ºTRAIL4.5 in. WHEELBASE60.4 in. SEAT HEIGHT28.2 in. WET WEIGHT503 lb. FUEL CAPACITY3.5 gal. PERFORMANCE0-60 MPH4.6 sec.0-1/4-MILE13.69 sec. at 93.8 mph BRAKING, 60 MPH-0152 ft. HORSEPOWER57.6 hp at 7955 rpmTORQUE43.2 lb.-ft. at 3790 rpm http://touch.cycleworld.com/all/116781#5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seedy Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Thanks RSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ll2 Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 (edited) The comments were in reply to HP, nothing else. 58 is more than 50 which is more than 43. Any comments not directly related to this, label as troll. yeah but one gives 43 hp - which most dynos say 44 - 45 hp by the way - from a 470 cc engine and other gives 57 hp from a 750 cc engine, do you also consider this? and also one carries 193 kg and other 222 to 228 kg - different numbers over internet but Harley says 222 kg My comments are related with this as i found your comments funny as you never thought about these and just posting things on slagging people. sometime i wonder what type of people we deal here, my god! Edited April 11, 2014 by ll2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ll2 Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 There's evidence of lack if due diligence on both sides- the Cycle World article has the actual wet weight of 503lbs (just over 228kg)- on this thread we have claims of 480lbs to 550lbs- this I something that continually bothers me on TV, the posting of incorrect info in the face of easily-verifiable facts- nobody wants to spend two minutes vetting their posts. SPECIFICATIONS2015 Harley-Davidson Street 750 GENERALPRICE$7499ENGINE TYPELiquid-cooled 749cc 60-degree V-twin BORE & STROKE85.0 x 66.0mm INDUCTIONMikuni EFI 38mm COMPRESSION RATIO10.5:1 VALVE TRAINFour valves per cylinder, sohc TRANSMISSIONSix-speed manual FINAL DRIVEBelt FRONT SUSPENSIONFork REAR SUSPENSIONTwin rear shocks FRONT BRAKESingle disc, dual-piston caliper REAR BRAKESingle disc, dual-piston caliper FRONT TIRE100/80R-17REAR TIRE140/75R-15 RAKE32.0ºTRAIL4.5 in. WHEELBASE60.4 in. SEAT HEIGHT28.2 in. WET WEIGHT503 lb. FUEL CAPACITY3.5 gal. PERFORMANCE0-60 MPH4.6 sec.0-1/4-MILE13.69 sec. at 93.8 mph BRAKING, 60 MPH-0152 ft. HORSEPOWER57.6 hp at 7955 rpmTORQUE43.2 lb.-ft. at 3790 rpm http://touch.cycleworld.com/all/116781#5 rsd you posted this but Harley Davidson website claims 222 kg wet. Weight, In Running Order222 kg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubberSideDown Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 (edited) ^ Cycle World actually weighed it (and dynoed it and ran it down the strip)- I never give manufacture claims too much credence, and wet-weight claims are almost always lower than actual numbers for all bike makers (a notable exception being Yamaha with the FZ-09). Edited April 11, 2014 by RubberSideDown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ll2 Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 ^ Cycle World actually weighed it (and dynoed it and ran it down the strip)- I never give manufacture claims too much credence, and wet-weight claims are almost always lower than actual numbers for all bike makers (a notable exception being Yamaha with the FZ-09). yes, i think same as you. a lot of contradicting info over the net but i respect CW's claims more than the manufacturers' too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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