Thai PM defends herself against negligence charges

[MaxLee]

"Yingluck arrived at the National Anti-Corruption Commission (NACC) in Bangkok on Monday but made no comment to the media as she entered the building or as she left ten minutes later, an AFP reporter said."

10 tiny minutes,??? Well the NACC must have had so much mercy or just chickened out to ask any more in the end or afraid of the upcoming redshirt brigade....

[whybother]

Other than what I read in the papers,no I don't know that there was corruption. Is it likely yes. Would I swear in court. No. I don't know, I believe.

If she had a report that there was corruption and she did nothing, she's in trouble. If she told them to investigate and they reported they found nothing, she's free.

They have to prove she knew and did nothing. Not easy.

Didn't she move someone into an inactive position who had said that there was corruption?

[whybother]

I doubt very much she has seen any report whatsoever that claims there is any corruption.

Her defence will be "I know nothing". Hence why they should convict someone quite high up the chain and get him to squeal.

Then they might get her. This way now, they won't get her.

Being the head of the rice committee and being told their is corruption by staff and not doing anything about it speaks of more than negligence.

[aussieinthailand]

I would like to challenge you, can you produce one iota of evidence that YL is corrupt??? cause if you can, better you go n tell them boy's you have all the answers, good luck with that, cheers

I can,The fact she is related by blood to one Thaksin of Arabia, a wanted criminal, is evidence enough...

Hmmm, by your thinking any person related to any criminal is also a criminal by that relationship, Bugga, I'm in some big bloody trouble then,

Now that we have your have little waffle of bull sH_t out of the way, the Question still remains,

and how about Suthep, Wonder just how many can accept the reason he was the Deputy PM then NOT, why is that??? c'mon all you Suthep lovers, defend your supreme leader if you can

[Yunla]

and a ban from politics

The cut and thrust of hearty political dialectics will not be the same without her Boudica-like courage on the debating floor.

[whybother]

I would like to challenge you, can you produce one iota of evidence that YL is corrupt??? cause if you can, better you go n tell them boy's you have all the answers, good luck with that, cheers

I can,The fact she is related by blood to one Thaksin of Arabia, a wanted criminal, is evidence enough...

Hmmm, by your thinking any person related to any criminal is also a criminal by that relationship, Bugga, I'm in some big bloody trouble then,

Now that we have your have little waffle of bull sH_t out of the way, the Question still remains,

and how about Suthep, Wonder just how many can accept the reason he was the Deputy PM then NOT, why is that??? c'mon all you Suthep lovers, defend your supreme leader if you can

So, Suthep is a crook, so let every one else off?

[Melyn]

I hear that the NACC has asked Yingluck for an additional 45 days to go through 200 cartoons

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[Nickymaster]

the silent majority will come out fighting if shes removed

Fighting for what?

[aussieinthailand]

Too dense to know what she's gotten herself into; let alone address the press with coherent speech that would resemble a leader. Better to keep the trap shut; at least she's learning that.

Did you read the bit in the OP were it say's, these guy's have still not finished a graft case against Mark after 4 years, and as for your hero Suthep well they can't even be bothered to make him front court let alone the plethora of corruption accusations against him,

But then your selective reading will not let you take in that little tit bit of info now will it, yellow tinted glasses...

I would like to challenge you, can you produce one iota of evidence that YL is corrupt??? cause if you can, better you go n tell them boy's you have all the answers, good luck with that, cheers

Did you even read this before going into automatic attack mode like an enraged monk beater? She is not charged with corruption, she is charged with negligence. If you were a management type, in any venture, public or not, and you lost 700 billion baht, what defense would you offer? Seems to me there are 3 options, 1. I'm stupid, 2. I'm crooked, 3. I'm inept, or possibly, my brother said it would be ok. Why don't you try holding this PM to the same standard as you would the leader of your own country.

Yes,,, I am a wear she is NOT charged with corruption but negligence, if you read my previous post you would know that,

My point was for people to Take a look at Mark and mostly Suthep, on the corruption point. and Why Suthep was Deputy PM and then NOT, it's not hard to get the answer to that if you have an open mind and like to know the truth, can the Suthpe supporters answer that please???

[Nickymaster]

Look at her! She has the look of a person who is in control, a LEADER!!

[gemini81]

Too dense to know what she's gotten herself into; let alone address the press with coherent speech that would resemble a leader. Better to keep the trap shut; at least she's learning that.

Did you read the bit in the OP were it say's, these guy's have still not finished a graft case against Mark after 4 years, and as for your hero Suthep well they can't even be bothered to make him front court let alone the plethora of corruption accusations against him,

But then your selective reading will not let you take in that little tit bit of info now will it, yellow tinted glasses...

I would like to challenge you, can you produce one iota of evidence that YL is corrupt??? cause if you can, better you go n tell them boy's you have all the answers, good luck with that, cheers

She was guilty of perjury right off the bat. She has all of her assets derived from income made through graft within her family. If you can't put that together, you would have to be really thick.

Where did all the billions go for the rice scheme? How did her & the family gain unusual wealth during the time her brother was in office and siphoned billions through unnecessary projects. Just because an aging woman makes your flag stand up doesn't hide her guilt, ineptitude, lack of leadership, shamelessness nor graft.

[gemini81]

I would like to challenge you, can you produce one iota of evidence that YL is corrupt??? cause if you can, better you go n tell them boy's you have all the answers, good luck with that, cheers

I can,The fact she is related by blood to one Thaksin of Arabia, a wanted criminal, is evidence enough...

Hmmm, by your thinking any person related to any criminal is also a criminal by that relationship, Bugga, I'm in some big bloody trouble then,

Now that we have your have little waffle of bull sH_t out of the way, the Question still remains,

and how about Suthep, Wonder just how many can accept the reason he was the Deputy PM then NOT, why is that??? c'mon all you Suthep lovers, defend your supreme leader if you can

But..eh, er, but ..eh, Suthep.

He isn't the one in office! He's not in power. PTP are responsible for the fact that they can manage nothing; rice schemes, protests, car buyers, flooding, traffic, pollution, poverty, education, tablets.

You're looking pretty silly by deflecting the poor leadership; and trying to blame in on those not even in power. Suthep just highlights as an example how incompetent, worried and insecure the whole of PTP are.

[maxme]

I would like to challenge you, can you produce one iota of evidence that YL is corrupt??? cause if you can, better you go n tell them boy's you have all the answers, good luck with that, cheers

I can,The fact she is related by blood to one Thaksin of Arabia, a wanted criminal, is evidence enough...

Hmmm, by your thinking any person related to any criminal is also a criminal by that relationship, Bugga, I'm in some big bloody trouble then,

Now that we have your have little waffle of bull sH_t out of the way, the Question still remains,

and how about Suthep, Wonder just how many can accept the reason he was the Deputy PM then NOT, why is that??? c'mon all you Suthep lovers, defend your supreme leader if you can

So, Suthep is a crook, so let every one else off?

Nope but if they gonna indite, start with the leader that lead the blockade of the airport 2008 and all political group figures and politicians that broke the law since then but that's not gonna happen is it? How many democrats are barred or in jail for their mischief?

Not saying that some of the UDD and Pheua Thai members don´t belong there, just saying that some posters here suggest that one side is clean while the other isn't which is absolutely absurd.

[renaissanc]

Yingluck gives 200 pages of defence evidence to NACC, Suranand

BANGKOK: -- Caretaker Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra Monday gave 200 pages of evidence to the National Anti-Corruption Commission to defend herself the rice-pledging malfeasance case, PM's Secretary General Suranand Vejjajiva said.

Yingluck asked the NACC to consider her documents and she would be willing to provide more information if needed.

Yingluck also told the NACC that she has prepared 11 witnesses to argue against the charges in 13 points, according to Suranand.

-- The Nation 2014-03-31

The 200 pages state:

"There is no corruption in the rice scheme. The farmers are benefitting splendidly from it. Ka."

"There is no corruption in the rice scheme. The farmers are benefitting splendidly from it. Ka."

"There is no corruption in the rice scheme. The farmers are benefitting splendidly from it. Ka."

"There is no corruption in the rice scheme. The farmers are benefitting splendidly from it. Ka."

Etc.

The 11 witnesses have just returned from a trip to Dubai with their script:

"There is no corruption in the rice scheme. The farmers are benefitting splendidly from it. Ka/Krup."

Etc.

[Rich teacher]

So, Suthep is a crook, so let every one else off?

Nope but if they gonna indite, start with the leader that lead the blockade of the airport 2008 and all political group figures and politicians that broke the law since then but that's not gonna happen is it? How many democrats are barred or in jail for their mischief?

Not saying that some of the UDD and Pheua Thai members don´t belong there, just saying that some posters here suggest that one side is clean while the other isn't which is absolutely absurd.

Which thereby severely diminishes the credibility & validity of the organisation

[Pimay1]

Other than what I read in the papers,no I don't know that there was corruption. Is it likely yes. Would I swear in court. No. I don't know, I believe.

If she had a report that there was corruption and she did nothing, she's in trouble. If she told them to investigate and they reported they found nothing, she's free.

They have to prove she knew and did nothing. Not easy.

Didn't she move someone into an inactive position who had said that there was corruption?

Yes she did. May, 2013 PTP found out Deputy finance permanent secretary Supa Piyajitti was about to spill the beans on corruption in the rice pledging scheme. She was removed from her post and reassigned to the Office of the Permanent Secretary and the Fiscal Policy Office.

She testified before a senate committee in July, 2013 the rice scheme was rife with corruption. Ms Supa said she based her testimony to the Senate committee on reports from subcommittees assessing the accounts relating to the rice scheme. The reports were forwarded to the prime minister for acknowledgement in October last year. Therefore when Yingluck says she was not aware of any corruption in the rice scheme I don't believe her.

[AleG]

I doubt very much she has seen any report whatsoever that claims there is any corruption.

Her defence will be "I know nothing". Hence why they should convict someone quite high up the chain and get him to squeal.

Then they might get her. This way now, they won't get her.

Being the head of the rice committee and being told their is corruption by staff and not doing anything about it speaks of more than negligence.

Besides any corruption there's the massive losses from the scheme that she failed to address and the million or so farmers that were swindled out of their crops, and the complete lack of transparency and accountability over the finances of the scheme, etc, etc...

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I doubt very much she has seen any report whatsoever that claims there is any corruption.

Her defence will be "I know nothing". Hence why they should convict someone quite high up the chain and get him to squeal.

Then they might get her. This way now, they won't get her.

Being the head of the rice committee and being told their is corruption by staff and not doing anything about it speaks of more than negligence.

Besides any corruption there's the massive losses from the scheme that she failed to address and the million or so farmers that were swindled out of their crops, and the complete lack of transparency and accountability over the finances of the scheme, etc, etc...

And I wonder why the poor unpaid farmers have stopped their protests?

The various day by day new reports of rice sales are for small tonnages / value, it will take months even perhaps a year to get enough to get funds to pay the 120Billion still owed.

Must be something going on in the background to pay them off to be quiet (where did the funds come from? Is it coming from tax receipts?).

Who's in charge of this?

Edited April 1, 2014 by scorecard

[whybother]

Nope but if they gonna indite, start with the leader that lead the blockade of the airport 2008 and all political group figures and politicians that broke the law since then but that's not gonna happen is it? How many democrats are barred or in jail for their mischief?

Not saying that some of the UDD and Pheua Thai members don´t belong there, just saying that some posters here suggest that one side is clean while the other isn't which is absolutely absurd.

They have indicted the leaders of the 2008 protests.

Which "political group figures" are you referring to?

Who has said that the Democrats are clean?

[Malone]

Other than what I read in the papers,no I don't know that there was corruption. Is it likely yes. Would I swear in court. No. I don't know, I believe.

If she had a report that there was corruption and she did nothing, she's in trouble. If she told them to investigate and they reported they found nothing, she's free.

They have to prove she knew and did nothing. Not easy.

Didn't she move someone into an inactive position who had said that there was corruption?

Two, actually.

PWO officials in Udon Thani and Lopburi.

[Malone]

Other than what I read in the papers,no I don't know that there was corruption. Is it likely yes. Would I swear in court. No. I don't know, I believe.

If she had a report that there was corruption and she did nothing, she's in trouble. If she told them to investigate and they reported they found nothing, she's free.

They have to prove she knew and did nothing. Not easy.

Didn't she move someone into an inactive position who had said that there was corruption?

Two, actually.

PWO officials in Udon Thani and Lopburi.

Update Answer:

Make that three with Finance Ministry Permanent Secretary Areepong Bhoocha-oom

[maxme]

Nope but if they gonna indite, start with the leader that lead the blockade of the airport 2008 and all political group figures and politicians that broke the law since then but that's not gonna happen is it? How many democrats are barred or in jail for their mischief?

Not saying that some of the UDD and Pheua Thai members don´t belong there, just saying that some posters here suggest that one side is clean while the other isn't which is absolutely absurd.

They have indicted the leaders of the 2008 protests.

Which "political group figures" are you referring to?

Who has said that the Democrats are clean?

They have... ? As far as I know Chamlong and Sondhi are still here. I mean they are in hiding but they are still free to move around.

[scorecard]

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the silent majority will come out fighting if shes removed

So who are the silent majority, in your opinion?

[Malone]

I doubt very much she has seen any report whatsoever that claims there is any corruption.

Her defence will be "I know nothing". Hence why they should convict someone quite high up the chain and get him to squeal.

Then they might get her. This way now, they won't get her.

Being the head of the rice committee and being told their is corruption by staff and not doing anything about it speaks of more than negligence.

Surely she has seen multiple reports of corruption over a long period of time, particularly those whistleblowers within the government.

eg.

BANGKOK, July 3, 2013

Corruption has penetrated every step of the governments rice purchase scheme as the Commerce Ministry has refused to disclose information on rice sales, according to a senior Finance Ministry official.

Deputy permanent secretary for finance Supa Piyajitti told a Senate committee that corruption was involved from the first stage of farmers registration to reports on rice volume which were falsified.

The Senate standing committee on economic, commerce and industry invited Ms Supa to give an account on the rice pledging scheme in her capacity as chairwoman of the Finance Ministrys sub-committee tasked with the scheme's account assessment.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/650937-commerce-ministry-lambasted-for-corruption-in-rice-purchases/

[Malone]

Nope but if they gonna indite, start with the leader that lead the blockade of the airport 2008 and all political group figures and politicians that broke the law since then but that's not gonna happen is it? How many democrats are barred or in jail for their mischief?

Not saying that some of the UDD and Pheua Thai members don´t belong there, just saying that some posters here suggest that one side is clean while the other isn't which is absolutely absurd.

They have indicted the leaders of the 2008 protests.

Which "political group figures" are you referring to?

Who has said that the Democrats are clean?

They have... ? As far as I know Chamlong and Sondhi are still here. I mean they are in hiding but they are still free to move around.

Just like red shirt/PTP's Natthawut and Weng who were indicted for their Bangkok Riot that occurred a year and a half before the airport.

[maxme]

Nope but if they gonna indite, start with the leader that lead the blockade of the airport 2008 and all political group figures and politicians that broke the law since then but that's not gonna happen is it? How many democrats are barred or in jail for their mischief?

Not saying that some of the UDD and Pheua Thai members don´t belong there, just saying that some posters here suggest that one side is clean while the other isn't which is absolutely absurd.

They have indicted the leaders of the 2008 protests.

Which "political group figures" are you referring to?

Who has said that the Democrats are clean?

They have... ? As far as I know Chamlong and Sondhi are still here. I mean they are in hiding but they are still free to move around.

Just like red shirt/PTP's Natthawut and Weng who were indicted for their Bangkok Riot that occurred a year and a half before the airport.

As a response to the coup yes, but you proved my point without understanding it. Until men in this country start admitting their guilt instead of just pointing fingers and let common sense take over, we are not going to see the end of it. If these people want reform, how about showing an example by cleaning up the mess inside their own camp first.

[dotpoom]

"Yingluck arrived at the National Anti-Corruption Commission (NACC) in Bangkok on Monday but made no comment to the media as she entered the building or as she left ten minutes later, an AFP reporter said."

!0 mins. in and out again........see how fast things can get done when one tries.

[Malone]

They have indicted the leaders of the 2008 protests.

Which "political group figures" are you referring to?

Who has said that the Democrats are clean?

They have... ? As far as I know Chamlong and Sondhi are still here. I mean they are in hiding but they are still free to move around.

Just like red shirt/PTP's Natthawut and Weng who were indicted for their Bangkok Riot that occurred a year and a half before the airport.

you proved my point without understanding it. Until men in this country start admitting their guilt instead of just pointing fingers and let common sense take over, we are not going to see the end of it.

I understood your point and agree with it, but you missed my point of contesting your starting point of when to indict as the airport was not the initial street violence and by your own criteria, the indictments should go back further.

[seajae]

read this too quickly, thought it actually said, PM defends herself against intelligence charges , she wouldnt have to try to hard as everyone knows that she has none. Poor bugger, she should just dye her hair blonde and then people would understand her problem without her having to say anything at all and embarassing herself.

[whybother]

Nope but if they gonna indite, start with the leader that lead the blockade of the airport 2008 and all political group figures and politicians that broke the law since then but that's not gonna happen is it? How many democrats are barred or in jail for their mischief?

Not saying that some of the UDD and Pheua Thai members don´t belong there, just saying that some posters here suggest that one side is clean while the other isn't which is absolutely absurd.

They have indicted the leaders of the 2008 protests.

Which "political group figures" are you referring to?

Who has said that the Democrats are clean?

They have... ? As far as I know Chamlong and Sondhi are still here. I mean they are in hiding but they are still free to move around.

Maybe you need to check out the definition of "indicted". It doesn't mean that someone is in jail.