General Prayuth upset by criticism against him

[webfact]

General Prayuth upset by criticism against him



BANGKOK: -- Army Commander-in-Chief General Prayuth Chan-ocha appeared upset by the criticism against him that he was just an employee of the Shinawatra Corp.

In a message posted on her Facebook page by Wassana Nanuam, a senior military reporter of the Bangkok Post newspaper, she wrote that the army chief was upset with the criticism from the anti-government camp in response to the remark he made on April 2.

The army chief was reported to have asked reporters whether they could demand the ouster of the owner of their newspaper if they were not happy with his conduct. He likened himself as just an employee of the government and, as such, he said he could not have his employer ousted.

“Do you really want the army to come out (to stage a coup)?” asked the army chief, adding “if the soldiers come out, they will not return to the barracks”. “Is that what you want?” he asked.

Protest leader Suthep Thaugsuban told the audience at Lumpini park Thursday night that he was confident that the army was still on the people’s side and asked the protesters to have patience and to wait and see the final episode of the political conflict.

He said that if he was wrong about his assessment of General Prayuth, he would lead the protesters to see the army chief himself and to take responsibility for his wrong judgement.

Suthep insisted that he did not demand the army to stage a coup against the government but maintained that the government had already lost its legitimacy to remain in the office.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/general-prayuth-upset-criticism/


-- Thai PBS 2014-04-04

[Snig27]

Suthep's predictions and claims have a pretty solid 100% failure rate to date so let's hope he maintains that sad record of getting it wrong despite the dark manipulations of the legal system by his puppetmasters.

[Bocking]

To be honest, given possible errors in translation, I sort of agree with Chan-ocha's comments.

[JoePai]

If he kept his nose out of politics then there would be no criticism

[webfact]

Prayuth refuses to involve the army in politics



BANGKOK, 4 March 2014 (NNT) - The Army Chief has requested protestors, especially the People’s Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC), to not persuade the army to choose any sides because it may lead to a bigger conflict.

Army Chief General Prayuth Chan-ocha defended himself regarding a comment he made earlier that ousting the current government would be the equivalent of having employees fire the owner of the company. Needless to say, that comment received a lot of criticism and made a number of people enraged.

General Prayuth mentioned that his remarks were only a comparison to an organization’s business structure and should be taken as anything more serious. The Army Chief also requested the protestors not to push for the army’s involvement in the political conflicts as it could escalate the level of violence.

Meanwhile, Deputy Army Spokesman Colonel Vinthai Suwaree has declared that the Army will provide the best level of protection to everybody and monitor any suspicious activities in the political protests.


-- NNT 2014-04-04

[clockman]

Just like children, with attitude!

[ikke]

Prayuth refuses to involve the army in politics

BANGKOK, 4 March 2014 (NNT) - The Army Chief has requested protestors, especially the People’s Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC), to not persuade the army to choose any sides because it may lead to a bigger conflict.

Army Chief General Prayuth Chan-ocha defended himself regarding a comment he made earlier that ousting the current government would be the equivalent of having employees fire the owner of the company. Needless to say, that comment received a lot of criticism and made a number of people enraged.

General Prayuth mentioned that his remarks were only a comparison to an organization’s business structure and should be taken as anything more serious. The Army Chief also requested the protestors not to push for the army’s involvement in the political conflicts as it could escalate the level of violence.

Meanwhile, Deputy Army Spokesman Colonel Vinthai Suwaree has declared that the Army will provide the best level of protection to everybody and monitor any suspicious activities in the political protests.

-- NNT 2014-04-04

Must say, I think he's 100% right as in any country the army man has to see themselves as employees of the government and his comparison to the business structure is exactly true.

I think the army should come in and clear Lumpini as the dems did in 2010.

[GeorgeO]

Prayuth refuses to involve the army in politics

BANGKOK, 4 March 2014 (NNT) - The Army Chief has requested protestors, especially the People’s Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC), to not persuade the army to choose any sides because it may lead to a bigger conflict.

Army Chief General Prayuth Chan-ocha defended himself regarding a comment he made earlier that ousting the current government would be the equivalent of having employees fire the owner of the company. Needless to say, that comment received a lot of criticism and made a number of people enraged.

General Prayuth mentioned that his remarks were only a comparison to an organization’s business structure and should be taken as anything more serious. The Army Chief also requested the protestors not to push for the army’s involvement in the political conflicts as it could escalate the level of violence.

Meanwhile, Deputy Army Spokesman Colonel Vinthai Suwaree has declared that the Army will provide the best level of protection to everybody and monitor any suspicious activities in the political protests.

-- NNT 2014-04-04

Must say, I think he's 100% right as in any country the army man has to see themselves as employees of the government and his comparison to the business structure is exactly true.

I think the army should come in and clear Lumpini as the dems did in 2010.

I think the army should come in and clear Lumpini as the dems did in 2010.

If you believe that the two situations are comparable, then you have no idea what the current protests are about...!

[Artisi]

Prayuth refuses to involve the army in politics

BANGKOK, 4 March 2014 (NNT) - The Army Chief has requested protestors, especially the People’s Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC), to not persuade the army to choose any sides because it may lead to a bigger conflict.

Army Chief General Prayuth Chan-ocha defended himself regarding a comment he made earlier that ousting the current government would be the equivalent of having employees fire the owner of the company. Needless to say, that comment received a lot of criticism and made a number of people enraged.

General Prayuth mentioned that his remarks were only a comparison to an organization’s business structure and should be taken as anything more serious. The Army Chief also requested the protestors not to push for the army’s involvement in the political conflicts as it could escalate the level of violence.

Meanwhile, Deputy Army Spokesman Colonel Vinthai Suwaree has declared that the Army will provide the best level of protection to everybody and monitor any suspicious activities in the political protests.

-- NNT 2014-04-04

Must say, I think he's 100% right as in any country the army man has to see themselves as employees of the government and his comparison to the business structure is exactly true.

I think the army should come in and clear Lumpini as the dems did in 2010.

I think the army should come in and clear Lumpini as the dems did in 2010.

If you believe that the two situations are comparable, then you have no idea what the current protests are about...!

Just a pathetic load of non-sense on the part of ikke, re-enforcing a complete lack of understanding and knowledge of the 2010 situation and the lead up to clearing of the protesters off the streets.

Edited April 4, 2014 by Artisi

[NongKhaiKid]

If he kept his nose out of politics then there would be no criticism

Exactly, his job should be to protect the country from outside threats not get involved in domestic issues unless called upon to assist the civil powers.

However, the civil powers, especially the BIB are not up to the job and the loyalty of those at the very top of the RTP isn't always to the country.

The good general is like everyone who held the post before him so getting involved in all sorts of non-military things is the norm and if not actively encouraged certainly isn't discouraged as politicians like to keep they military onside as there's no saying when they might turn on you.

[Eric Loh]

Prayuth refuses to involve the army in politics

BANGKOK, 4 March 2014 (NNT) - The Army Chief has requested protestors, especially the Peoples Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC), to not persuade the army to choose any sides because it may lead to a bigger conflict.

Army Chief General Prayuth Chan-ocha defended himself regarding a comment he made earlier that ousting the current government would be the equivalent of having employees fire the owner of the company. Needless to say, that comment received a lot of criticism and made a number of people enraged.

General Prayuth mentioned that his remarks were only a comparison to an organizations business structure and should be taken as anything more serious. The Army Chief also requested the protestors not to push for the armys involvement in the political conflicts as it could escalate the level of violence.

Meanwhile, Deputy Army Spokesman Colonel Vinthai Suwaree has declared that the Army will provide the best level of protection to everybody and monitor any suspicious activities in the political protests.

-- NNT 2014-04-04

Must say, I think he's 100% right as in any country the army man has to see themselves as employees of the government and his comparison to the business structure is exactly true.

I think the army should come in and clear Lumpini as the dems did in 2010.

I think the army should come in and clear Lumpini as the dems did in 2010.

If you believe that the two situations are comparable, then you have no idea what the current protests are about...!

Don't need the army, they will be gone by Songkran. Suterp will not have the money to pay treble day rate.

[ikke]

Prayuth refuses to involve the army in politics

BANGKOK, 4 March 2014 (NNT) - The Army Chief has requested protestors, especially the People’s Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC), to not persuade the army to choose any sides because it may lead to a bigger conflict.

Army Chief General Prayuth Chan-ocha defended himself regarding a comment he made earlier that ousting the current government would be the equivalent of having employees fire the owner of the company. Needless to say, that comment received a lot of criticism and made a number of people enraged.

General Prayuth mentioned that his remarks were only a comparison to an organization’s business structure and should be taken as anything more serious. The Army Chief also requested the protestors not to push for the army’s involvement in the political conflicts as it could escalate the level of violence.

Meanwhile, Deputy Army Spokesman Colonel Vinthai Suwaree has declared that the Army will provide the best level of protection to everybody and monitor any suspicious activities in the political protests.

-- NNT 2014-04-04

Must say, I think he's 100% right as in any country the army man has to see themselves as employees of the government and his comparison to the business structure is exactly true.

I think the army should come in and clear Lumpini as the dems did in 2010.

I think the army should come in and clear Lumpini as the dems did in 2010.

If you believe that the two situations are comparable, then you have no idea what the current protests are about...!

I don't compare , and I do have an idea where this protest are about .

The protest are about Suthep trying to get the power (ore his friends) and create total dictatorship.

Also the protests are tearing the country and his economics down, cost billions (this for the ones who like to give the billion numbers of the rice scheme)

As (i think) most posters here have nothing to do with the economics in Thailand , they don't care that Sutheps tears the country down .

I stated many times and always will state honest that I am not red, neither I like Taksin's way to deal with the situation,

But ...... Suthep is cancer for Thailand and sure for the economy.

Tell me, if he has so much followers and supporters , why is he afraid of elections ?

If he or the Dems would win elections, they could start reforms, but..... they wont, and you , I, everybody knows that !

[chrisrazz]

yeah 2010 was different. The reds wanted an election. The PDRC and friends have done everything possible to stop elections.

Edited April 4, 2014 by chrisrazz

[kratiam]

Prayuth refuses to involve the army in politics

BANGKOK, 4 March 2014 (NNT) - The Army Chief has requested protestors, especially the Peoples Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC), to not persuade the army to choose any sides because it may lead to a bigger conflict.

Army Chief General Prayuth Chan-ocha defended himself regarding a comment he made earlier that ousting the current government would be the equivalent of having employees fire the owner of the company. Needless to say, that comment received a lot of criticism and made a number of people enraged.

General Prayuth mentioned that his remarks were only a comparison to an organizations business structure and should be taken as anything more serious. The Army Chief also requested the protestors not to push for the armys involvement in the political conflicts as it could escalate the level of violence.

Meanwhile, Deputy Army Spokesman Colonel Vinthai Suwaree has declared that the Army will provide the best level of protection to everybody and monitor any suspicious activities in the political protests.

-- NNT 2014-04-04

Must say, I think he's 100% right as in any country the army man has to see themselves as employees of the government and his comparison to the business structure is exactly true.

I think the army should come in and clear Lumpini as the dems did in 2010.

I think the army should come in and clear Lumpini as the dems did in 2010.

If you believe that the two situations are comparable, then you have no idea what the current protests are about...!

Don't need the army, they will be gone by Songkran. Suterp will not have the money to pay treble day rate.

Please provide proof of any payment except food & water etc..........

[Luk Mhee]

The general must be careful not to fall into the political psychological trap. The more you give the more they want. Give a finger they want the hand, give the hand they want the arm, eventually they will control the whole body.

The general should be very diplomatic in what he says; diplomacy is to tell a person to go to hell in such a nice way that they actually looks forward to the trip.

[ikke]

Prayuth refuses to involve the army in politics

BANGKOK, 4 March 2014 (NNT) - The Army Chief has requested protestors, especially the People’s Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC), to not persuade the army to choose any sides because it may lead to a bigger conflict.

Army Chief General Prayuth Chan-ocha defended himself regarding a comment he made earlier that ousting the current government would be the equivalent of having employees fire the owner of the company. Needless to say, that comment received a lot of criticism and made a number of people enraged.

General Prayuth mentioned that his remarks were only a comparison to an organization’s business structure and should be taken as anything more serious. The Army Chief also requested the protestors not to push for the army’s involvement in the political conflicts as it could escalate the level of violence.

Meanwhile, Deputy Army Spokesman Colonel Vinthai Suwaree has declared that the Army will provide the best level of protection to everybody and monitor any suspicious activities in the political protests.

-- NNT 2014-04-04

Must say, I think he's 100% right as in any country the army man has to see themselves as employees of the government and his comparison to the business structure is exactly true.

I think the army should come in and clear Lumpini as the dems did in 2010.

I think the army should come in and clear Lumpini as the dems did in 2010.

If you believe that the two situations are comparable, then you have no idea what the current protests are about...!

Just a pathetic load of non-sense on the part of ikke, re-enforcing a complete lack of understanding and knowledge of the 2010 situation and the lead up to clearing of the protesters off the streets.

Sure load of non-sense, all posts against Suthep are non-sense, and posted by fools and non-educated people, thats exactly what a dictator would say, any thing or idea other than his is non-sense.

[kratiam]

If he kept his nose out of politics then there would be no criticism

Exactly, his job should be to protect the country from outside threats not get involved in domestic issues unless called upon to assist the civil powers.

However, the civil powers, especially the BIB are not up to the job and the loyalty of those at the very top of the RTP isn't always to the country.

The good general is like everyone who held the post before him so getting involved in all sorts of non-military things is the norm and if not actively encouraged certainly isn't discouraged as politicians like to keep they military onside as there's no saying when they might turn on you.

Wrong...in extremis the army can provide whatever support is required.....witness National Guard in the US and the UK army even during a fireman's strike in UK.

[thesetat2013]

Suthep's predictions and claims have a pretty solid 100% failure rate to date so let's hope he maintains that sad record of getting it wrong despite the dark manipulations of the legal system by his puppetmasters.

So have all of YLs government schemes and Chalerms actions against the protests. Also lets not forget YLs and the PTPs dark manipulations ouf the constitution and and their apparent failures in trying to take every position in power including the senate and the neutral agencies that provide checks and balances. Many more dark manipulations can be added if you care to argue..

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[NongKhaiKid]

If he kept his nose out of politics then there would be no criticism

Exactly, his job should be to protect the country from outside threats not get involved in domestic issues unless called upon to assist the civil powers.

However, the civil powers, especially the BIB are not up to the job and the loyalty of those at the very top of the RTP isn't always to the country.

The good general is like everyone who held the post before him so getting involved in all sorts of non-military things is the norm and if not actively encouraged certainly isn't discouraged as politicians like to keep they military onside as there's no saying when they might turn on you.

Wrong...in extremis the army can provide whatever support is required.....witness National Guard in the US and the UK army even during a fireman's strike in UK.

I believe I mentioned being called on to assist the civil powers which is what you said.

The army didn't involve themselves in the UK fireman's strike until mobilised by the government.

[winstonc]

If he kept his nose out of politics then there would be no criticism

Exactly, his job should be to protect the country from outside threats not get involved in domestic issues unless called upon to assist the civil powers.

However, the civil powers, especially the BIB are not up to the job and the loyalty of those at the very top of the RTP isn't always to the country.

The good general is like everyone who held the post before him so getting involved in all sorts of non-military things is the norm and if not actively encouraged certainly isn't discouraged as politicians like to keep they military onside as there's no saying when they might turn on you.

Wrong...in extremis the army can provide whatever support is required.....witness National Guard in the US and the UK army even during a fireman's strike in UK.

the uk and us army are not thai..you do realise that dont you...poor response sir..

[Scamper]

Prayuth's simile was off the mark, but was nonetheless clearly intended to show that his position remains one of non-interference. He has kept that balance all this time. He refuses to side with either side. And that is the correct stance. Having said that, there are increasing indications that things are heating up with the UDD. And because they are so focused now on the NACC and the Constitutional Court, this takes this into very serious territory indeed. Pheu Thai has convinced it's supporters that the rulings of the checks and balances are unfair. That's very dangerous. Because the consequence of that is that it encourages defiance. Thaksin's biggest stumbling block is and has always been the law. This is his drama. And it is his drama that is being played out on the streets of Bangkok.

[WoopyDoo]

What a load of tripe.

He is pissed because he knows that people are starting to put 2 and 2 together and realizing that in fact this guy may well be paid off.

I am certainly getting more and more convinced.

They have the ability to make sure that tomorrow everything will go peacefully even though we are all anticipating a lot of possible violence and he does not seem to have beefed anything up.

He keeps coming out with this stupid rhetoric that the ISA, CAPO and the police including a bunch of unarmed soldiers is fully capable of containing any violence.

He knows along with the rest of the people from past experience that none of that lot are capable of containing any violence, look at Lak Si and the gun battle where they were all cowering. Look at the Thai/Japan stadium violence, look at the running street battles at Ramkhamhaeng... For christ's sake.... 2 soldiers returning to their nearby barracks next to the NACC were shot at while simply riding their motor scooter by Ko Tee's little red thugs the day after they dismantled the bunker and chased away the army. Tho9s soldiers were injured after falling off their bike... they didn't even go back and sort these little terrorists out after being blatantly attacked with firearms.

The army seem to have zero desire to get involved because they have orders from above. As far as protecting protesters up till now.... They have been as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike.

I am sorry, but in my opinion, Prayuth has been bought off and I really hope it comes to light.

[Dogmatix]

LOL. That was a poor choice of words by Prayuth. He can't blame people for interpreting it to mean he was a Shin family employee. Serves him right for making these insincere pompous comments anyway.

[GeorgeO]

Prayuth refuses to involve the army in politics

BANGKOK, 4 March 2014 (NNT) - The Army Chief has requested protestors, especially the People’s Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC), to not persuade the army to choose any sides because it may lead to a bigger conflict.

Army Chief General Prayuth Chan-ocha defended himself regarding a comment he made earlier that ousting the current government would be the equivalent of having employees fire the owner of the company. Needless to say, that comment received a lot of criticism and made a number of people enraged.

General Prayuth mentioned that his remarks were only a comparison to an organization’s business structure and should be taken as anything more serious. The Army Chief also requested the protestors not to push for the army’s involvement in the political conflicts as it could escalate the level of violence.

Meanwhile, Deputy Army Spokesman Colonel Vinthai Suwaree has declared that the Army will provide the best level of protection to everybody and monitor any suspicious activities in the political protests.

-- NNT 2014-04-04

Must say, I think he's 100% right as in any country the army man has to see themselves as employees of the government and his comparison to the business structure is exactly true.

I think the army should come in and clear Lumpini as the dems did in 2010.

I think the army should come in and clear Lumpini as the dems did in 2010.

If you believe that the two situations are comparable, then you have no idea what the current protests are about...!

I don't compare , and I do have an idea where this protest are about .

The protest are about Suthep trying to get the power (ore his friends) and create total dictatorship.

Also the protests are tearing the country and his economics down, cost billions (this for the ones who like to give the billion numbers of the rice scheme)

As (i think) most posters here have nothing to do with the economics in Thailand , they don't care that Sutheps tears the country down .

I stated many times and always will state honest that I am not red, neither I like Taksin's way to deal with the situation,

But ...... Suthep is cancer for Thailand and sure for the economy.

Tell me, if he has so much followers and supporters , why is he afraid of elections ?

If he or the Dems would win elections, they could start reforms, but..... they wont, and you , I, everybody knows that !

I rest my case on your lack of understanding of the situation, simply based on the fact that you got a "like" from Prbkk...!!

[smutcakes]

Poor old Prayuth He gets critcized if he is acting above the Govt and gets stick if he is seen as being in line with them.

He should just keep his mouth shut.

[tingtongteesood]

Prayuth refuses to involve the army in politics

BANGKOK, 4 March 2014 (NNT) - The Army Chief has requested protestors, especially the People’s Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC), to not persuade the army to choose any sides because it may lead to a bigger conflict.

Army Chief General Prayuth Chan-ocha defended himself regarding a comment he made earlier that ousting the current government would be the equivalent of having employees fire the owner of the company. Needless to say, that comment received a lot of criticism and made a number of people enraged.

General Prayuth mentioned that his remarks were only a comparison to an organization’s business structure and should be taken as anything more serious. The Army Chief also requested the protestors not to push for the army’s involvement in the political conflicts as it could escalate the level of violence.

Meanwhile, Deputy Army Spokesman Colonel Vinthai Suwaree has declared that the Army will provide the best level of protection to everybody and monitor any suspicious activities in the political protests.

-- NNT 2014-04-04

Must say, I think he's 100% right as in any country the army man has to see themselves as employees of the government and his comparison to the business structure is exactly true.

I think the army should come in and clear Lumpini as the dems did in 2010.

I think the army should come in and clear Lumpini as the dems did in 2010.

If you believe that the two situations are comparable, then you have no idea what the current protests are about...!

I don't compare , and I do have an idea where this protest are about .

The protest are about Suthep trying to get the power (ore his friends) and create total dictatorship.

Also the protests are tearing the country and his economics down, cost billions (this for the ones who like to give the billion numbers of the rice scheme)

As (i think) most posters here have nothing to do with the economics in Thailand , they don't care that Sutheps tears the country down .

I stated many times and always will state honest that I am not red, neither I like Taksin's way to deal with the situation,

But ...... Suthep is cancer for Thailand and sure for the economy.

Tell me, if he has so much followers and supporters , why is he afraid of elections ?

If he or the Dems would win elections, they could start reforms, but..... they wont, and you , I, everybody knows that !

As expected, the only things you seem to understand are the lies and spin the red sheeple's side throw at you.

[GeorgeO]

If he kept his nose out of politics then there would be no criticism

Exactly, his job should be to protect the country from outside threats not get involved in domestic issues unless called upon to assist the civil powers.

However, the civil powers, especially the BIB are not up to the job and the loyalty of those at the very top of the RTP isn't always to the country.

The good general is like everyone who held the post before him so getting involved in all sorts of non-military things is the norm and if not actively encouraged certainly isn't discouraged as politicians like to keep they military onside as there's no saying when they might turn on you.

Wrong...in extremis the army can provide whatever support is required.....witness National Guard in the US and the UK army even during a fireman's strike in UK.

I believe I mentioned being called on to assist the civil powers which is what you said.

The army didn't involve themselves in the UK fireman's strike until mobilised by the government.

Totally correct. We were forced to carry out the duties of the firemen, doing twelve-hour daily shifts, sleeping in police station gymnasiums and eating in their canteens. We were not sufficiently trained for the role, but managed quite well under the circumstances.

Our senior commanders at the time were very unhappy that we had been called upon to carry out such duties, and by no stretch of the imagination would they have ever have considered involving themselves without having been directed to do so by the government.

The mandate of the General Staff in the UK bears no resemblance whatsoever to the situation in Thailand.

[Thai at Heart]

Well he should have just stayed out of it all full stop.....

[pisico]

If he kept his nose out of politics then there would be no criticism

Exactly, his job should be to protect the country from outside threats not get involved in domestic issues unless called upon to assist the civil powers.

However, the civil powers, especially the BIB are not up to the job and the loyalty of those at the very top of the RTP isn't always to the country.

The good general is like everyone who held the post before him so getting involved in all sorts of non-military things is the norm and if not actively encouraged certainly isn't discouraged as politicians like to keep they military onside as there's no saying when they might turn on you.

Since the times of Pibhun (dethroning a monarch, allowing the Japanese to occupy the country to stage the invasion of Burma and Malaysia, instituting the cult to personality and issuing the 12 Mandates, etc.) that has been the usual role of the RTA in the country. As years went by, the army became a parallel government: ownership of a commercial bank, TV and radio broadcasting and real estate. Obviously the army feels assisted of special powers and has used it a number of times over the years to elevate to power amenable figures of their choosing, such as in that last coup of 2006.

I expect to be flamed by the usual suspects that will emphatically claim that it was not a military coup.

Oh the power of semantics and selective amnesia!

[ramrod711]

Suthep's predictions and claims have a pretty solid 100% failure rate to date so let's hope he maintains that sad record of getting it wrong despite the dark manipulations of the legal system by his puppetmasters.

Compared to Chalerm, who has a 100% success rate, when it comes to predicting violence against anti-government protesters. How does he do it?