Some Unbiased Advice.

[jaloochapurr]

I have been married with thai women from Satun for a while. We lived and worked in USA where she got passport.

2 months ago she got another job offer in Michigan.

She took it saying I come too or we are done.

Sorry no Michigan for me.

In the meantime she took all credit cards and atm too.

Ok the accounts were all in her namr as my credit in USA was poor.

I also had a child from a hilltribe girl who I wanted to near.

Yes now been over stay for a while.

But since all money is gone I have to go back USA and get own monies straight.

Basically early goverment retirement and some work too.

No Michigan, it was over anyway.

Now I can get borrowed money from CM to BKK where I know I have to go IDC.

NO money for fine.US will still lend for plane blocking passport til paid.

If I have copy of marriage license and record of child,could possibly immigration judge be compassionate?

What else can I do ?

[thepool]

Your overstay fine will be a maximum of 20000 and may be less if you are bought before a Judge.

You will remain in the IDC until such time as the fine is paid and a ticket out of the country is available.

Best you seek consular advice/assistance from the Embassy.

[Nautilus05]

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think I read while in IDC, you get 200 baht/day knocked off the fee. Plus, the judge usually knocks the fee down from the original 20,000.

So say the judge fines you 12,000, and you have absolutely no money, that means 60 days in the IDC. Then they'll only release you upon having a flight booked back to the US.

[jaloochapurr]

Doing the fine by doing the time do I get blacklisted

[choochoo]

you should be blaclisted............lol.

[FritsSikkink]

Is Michigan so bad you rather go to jail?

[KittenKong]

Cant you just stay here and become a real estate agent or a financial advisor like all the others?

[cgphuket]

Note to self: Never become financially dependent on my Thai wife. Maybe if you tell her your buffalo is sick she will send you some money?

[YipYipYa123]

you should be blaclisted............lol.

is it nice up there ?

[jonesthebaker]

are you full American as your written english is very poor?

[saroq]

Sounds like you should have stuck with your wife, you need someone with a clear head directing you.

[Rumblecat]

"I also had a child from a hilltribe girl who I wanted to near. "

What does the 'to near' bit mean? Wanted to be near to her or...?

[Pralaad]

I do not really understand OP story

It first appears he is saying they live in US and she has all the money because he has bad credit in US,

But then OP indicates he is in Thailand on over stay

Wife got a job in US? OP did not want to go?

OP, can you please may be re-write the story but make it little more clear

[Timwin]

In similar cases guys just stay in the jungle and overstay until they got somehow enough money for that 20000 Baht fine and for flight tickets. Try to get first that retirement money coming in via US consulate. They should be able to help.

[Thakkar]

Cant you just stay here and become a real estate agent or a financial advisor like all the others?

Or former Special Forces?

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[Suradit69]

are you full American as your written english is very poor?

Have you read many of the posts here at Thai Visa from members supposedly from English speaking countries and the product of the educational systems in the US, UK, Australia? And these same people quite often critical of the English language skills of Thais.

In similar cases guys just stay in the jungle and overstay until they got somehow enough money for that 20000 Baht fine and for flight tickets. Try to get first that retirement money coming in via US consulate. They should be able to help.

Neither the US consulate in Chiang Mai nor the embassy in Bangkok undertake to organize pensions or social security. They also do not get theater tickets, send out laundry or make bookings at restaurants. You may be confusing them with a concierge. The nearest Social Security facility, the one that receives applications from those in Thailand, is in the Philippines.

Social Security Administration

United States Embassy

1201 Roxas Blvd., Ermita

0930 Manila, Philippines

Contact Information:

Phone: (632) 301-2000 ext. 9

Fax: (632) 708-9723 and (632) 708-9714

E-mail: [email protected]

The Social Security Administration is headed by one American Officer, and staffed with 28 Locally Employed Staff (LES). SSA is configured to be like a U.S. stateside district office, providing many of the same services and functions. Its primary function is to administer SSA programs and services for people residing in the East-Asia Pacific Region. The division currently serves over 100,000 beneficiaries and pays out over 500 million dollars to those individuals each year.

http://manila.usembassy.gov/us-agencies2/the-social-security-administration-division2.html

Edited May 3, 2014 by Suradit69

[Regyai]

Cant you just stay here and become a real estate agent or a financial advisor like all the others?

or some quality time on a sex offenders register then he could teach

[lakemichael]

Hi there,

I have been in your position. The essential thing to do is go to your embassy. I overstayed a year due to various female and mental health problems from military service.

I went to the UK embassy without a pot to pee in. I took a night bus from down south to BKK as I was told there was less chance of the police stopping me. The only way you will go to the detention center is if you get stopped by the police etc. For that reason you must keep your nose clean.

Once at the embassy I spoke with staff who informed me I needed 20000 baht and a plane ticket.They called everyone I knew in the hope of raising the money. Whilst waiting I stayed at a backpackers hostel for a week living off of a 200 baht a day sub off of the embassy.

Please don't be thinking that the embassy will pay for everything. Unless it's extremely exceptional they won't. Can you imagine how may people would be taking that for granted.

I was so scared at the airport holding my 20000 and an expired visa. I had visions of the than staff saying "what money? You don't have any" then off to jail. In fact thet were great and it seemed like a very very common process. They were even joking telling me I chose the wrong wife and they would help me find a new one next time.

You won't get blacklisted as I traveled back a year or so later to finalise administration etc.

Best of luck and don't go asking trusted thai police. I was offered help for 300,000 baht as "it was the only option"

People overstay all of the time as long as you can square away the money for the fine you will be ok. Get networking and ask who ever you can.

[gerry123]

Cant you just stay here and become a real estate agent or a financial advisor like all the others?

or a teacher

[vogie]

"I also had a child from a hilltribe girl who I wanted to near. "

What does the 'to near' bit mean? Wanted to be near to her or...?

He could have missed out the 'be' I also had a child from a hilltribe girl who I wanted to be near.

We have all done it, as we get older the old grey matter does not function as it used to.

[Bignose]

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Hi there,

I have been in your position. The essential thing to do is go to your embassy. I overstayed a year due to various female and mental health problems from military service.

I went to the UK embassy without a pot to pee in. I took a night bus from down south to BKK as I was told there was less chance of the police stopping me. The only way you will go to the detention center is if you get stopped by the police etc. For that reason you must keep your nose clean.

Once at the embassy I spoke with staff who informed me I needed 20000 baht and a plane ticket.They called everyone I knew in the hope of raising the money. Whilst waiting I stayed at a backpackers hostel for a week living off of a 200 baht a day sub off of the embassy.

Please don't be thinking that the embassy will pay for everything. Unless it's extremely exceptional they won't. Can you imagine how may people would be taking that for granted.

I was so scared at the airport holding my 20000 and an expired visa. I had visions of the than staff saying "what money? You don't have any" then off to jail. In fact thet were great and it seemed like a very very common process. They were even joking telling me I chose the wrong wife and they would help me find a new one next time.

You won't get blacklisted as I traveled back a year or so later to finalise administration etc.

Best of luck and don't go asking trusted thai police. I was offered help for 300,000 baht as "it was the only option"

People overstay all of the time as long as you can square away the money for the fine you will be ok. Get networking and ask who ever you can.

What a pleasure to read a helpful, informative and reasonable reply, it made it worthwhile reading through some of the pedantic, half ar$ed and sarcastic comments that preceded it.

Thanks for sharing and helping.

[Kerryd]

John Rambo ? Is that you ? The war's over John, it's time to come (go) home.

Seriously, you are that broke that you hope the embassy will buy your plane ticket, and can't afford (or can't borrow) the $620(ish) US for the Overstay fine ?

You and her must have lived/worked in the US for some time in order for her to be able to get a US passport, but you have no friends/relatives that can bail you out (with the understanding that you'd pay them back once you got your "own monies" sorted) ?

Just how were (are) you planning on living back in the US, assuming you are able to take care of the overstay and fly back ? If you are leaving Thailand because you are out of money, I can't see how you'll survive in the states. If you had of went back with the wife, I'm guessing she would have been paying all the bills.

If it is "over anyway" between you and the wife as you say, don't be surprised if you step off the plane and get hit with divorce papers. Probably kiss whatever assets you may have in the US good-bye too. Be prepared. Having a birth certificate showing you have a child with another woman isn't likely to swing any weight at a divorce hearing.

Best to reach out to relatives/friends and get your life sorted out sooner than later. Get a job, work your ass off, pay your bills, fix your credit and then start thinking about coming back one day.

Which reminds me, did Rambo have a work permit to catch/sell all those snakes to the snake show people ? What kind of visa was he on ? He probably had hundreds of thousands in back pay and POW pay stashed in his US bank.

[jaloochapurr]

As to addressing the comments about my english,forget it.

The other comment was hopeful though.

Yes I can get to BKK without much difficulty.

But if I can get the money sent to CM, then I can leave from there. The US consulate should help me or loan the funds for a ticket.

[jaloochapurr]

Why are people on this forum if not to advice or assist others?

They should go to some other site if they just want to be negative.

[jaloochapurr]

I can get to Honolulu, get paperwork sorted out and get early social security. I will be homeless like millions of other people.

[jaloochapurr]

Yes we were married in Satun.

Then we both went to USA where we worked and lived together. I came back here, so did she but she was quickly offered another position in USA and took it.

Giving me the option to follow or end our marriage. Well I stayed and since all monies where in her name that too.

So if I arrive in Honolulu so what if I am served with papers. Nothing criminal was done except for overstay.

[jaloochapurr]

Just to say.

I born and raised on the garden island, Kauai, Hawaii.

How about those who question my english?

[stickylies]

satun is a great place. that's all i have to say.

[jonesthebaker]

Why are people on this forum if not to advice or assist others?

They should go to some other site if they just want to be negative.

to answer your question. many people come here every day for general entertainment. the same people will often seek advice. the same people will occasionally give advice. the same people will criticize. the same people will be funny, sarcastic and witty. etc etc etc.

hope that helps.

PS you should follow your own advice and not be negative

[mrdome]

"I also had a child from a hilltribe girl who I wanted to near. "

What does the 'to near' bit mean? Wanted to be near to her or...?

He could have missed out the 'be' I also had a child from a hilltribe girl who I wanted to be near.

We have all done it, as we get older the old grey matter does not function as it used to.

Poor kid, doesn't sound like it has much of a father unless OP left a few things out.