Unfriendly Farangs

[wandasloan]

^ Actually, most gays are usually quite particular about their hygiene.

And they are terrific decorators. Also, if you want to see small dogs, always look for a group of gays.

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Edited May 5, 2014 by wandasloan

[mrowe1973]

Try hanging out at the local coofee shop I made a bunch of farang friends!!

[healthbkkbkk]

^ Actually, most gays are usually quite particular about their hygiene.

And they are terrific decorators. Also, if you want to see small dogs, always look for a group of gays.

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I have small dogs! Maybe I haven't discovered myself yet?

[lahgon29]

Many people seem to keep themselves to themselves, fair enough although if someone said Hi/Hello/How are you/ etc. to me, I`d always give an answer, and a polite one at that.

Don`t let some others reluctance to respond put you off being friendly.

I`ve met some decent interesting people around the world, all just starting off with Hi or similar.

Agree. I say G'day at my gym to other farang, who usually say Hi, back. I don't stop for or expect a chat. Over the last year or so, I've talked to a few eventually, and there are some nice blokes there. Not a steroid gym. Aussie owner, and older farang and younger Thais as customers.

[stickylies]

as posted a few days ago in another post, total strangers can get a friendly nod, nothing more nothing less. and that includes stranger thai women calling me handsum man...................... i'm not easily charmed/impressed by mankind.

[bander]

Try to concentrate more on workout and less of getting friends at the gym

[wow64]

Geez if you said G'day to me I would start singing Waltzing Matilda crack out the Barbi throw on a coupla snags and try and root ya shiela. Haha

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Edited May 5, 2014 by wow64

[fishbrando]

Most of the foreigners I've met at the gym have been very friendly and generally good people.

One thing to remember: no one owes you anything, including social contact.

It reminds me of one time I went to immigration at Imperial World. There was a foreign man standing next to a foreign woman - at first I wasn't paying attention to them but I assume the man was trying to chat with the woman but the woman was holding a book so I assume she told him that she just wanted to read or something. I started paying attention when the man went on a huge tirade about how friendly a person he is and how he likes to meet new people and why was she being so unfriendly? The privilege that the guy assumed was astounding, as if he expected the whole world to drop what it is doing and chat with him.

[tubby johnson]

The strangers who greet me in Thailand either : (1) want to have a prolonged whinge about something bothering them, or (2) start bragging and boasting.

Sorry, not interested. I have a phobia against narcissists. So if I notice a farang trying to make eye contact with me, I pretend I'm Russian or something and don't speak a word of English.

[bushwacker]

I am always amazed at farang that think because I am not Thai then we should converse, greet, chat. Lets face it, the majority of people that live here i.e. more than 50%, are here because they have money problems back home and/or they want sex with younger woman. People like this are not good friend material. The "hi how are you doing" opens the door to more interaction. Which leads to future demands and responsibilities. I have always chosen my friends carefully and surprisingly they have done the same. Maybe these people that do not return your greeting are merely telling you that they do not like the cut of your jibe and do not want any kind of a relationship with you. Take the hint and move on.

[tetleythedog]

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Just because we're the same colour doesn't mean we're friends or want to be.

[stickylies]

When I go to the gym, I don't talk to anybody except the receptionist or a friend I already know. However, that is because I usually work out at the closest gym to my home, that gym is the Hillcrest 24 hr fitness in San Diego. This gym is the epicenter of all gayness. The patrons are nice for the most part, but I don't want to give any of them the wrong idea, and I totally avoid the locker room.

not talking with them ergo not telling them u're straight and therefore not interested in men might increase the mystery about you ergo boosts your sexappeal. be careful my friend ;-) i was member in this mostly gay club 20 years ago and the first thing i did was spreading the word that i fancied the girl working there.

i love gays platonically though. they are often more open-minded than straight guys and they learned me all about forbidden pleasures of the male body i'm trapped in

[wow64]

So true Tubby Johnson 1&2... That really pisses me off its just one thing i really hate about being here...oh that and the fact that i make 1 zillion baht a month working for the thai space program.

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[JimMagee]

Friendly conversation in the dressing room with a stranger is taboo. It is like talking to stranger Next to you at a urinal. Do you friendly talk out of the dressing room.

[MantisMan]

Ever notice the ex-pats in other countries, other than their own, have no communities set up like "they" do in our own countries?

It's because we are unorganized and basically rude to eachother.

Also, gone are the days when foreigners in Asia were a unique novelty.

Now, we are just a dime a dozen. No big deal.

Although, there is a bit more friendliness between Gwielo/Gaijin/Farangs in the country side as opposed to the cities. I find this in Hong Kong, Japan and Thailand.

[SoiBiker]

Why would anyone travel thousands of miles just to hang out with the same people?

[stickylies]

So true Tubby Johnson 1&2... That really pisses me off its just one thing i really hate about being here...oh that and the fact that i make 1 zillion baht a month working for the thai space program.

true! too often this "hi how are you?" is nothing more than the sneaky prelude to talk about themselves.

also, i don't think NOT being interested in other farang is being unfriendly. i am perfectly able to tell people in a friendly way i'm not interested to talk to them.

[joshstiles]

Steve....I'm with you man....I've noticed the same thing about foreigners here in Thailand. I don't understand the issue with them. In my opinion, most of the foreigners have come to thailand to escape their own kind because of 'bad experiences back home'. This is my theory and actually it was also part of the reason that I ended up in Thailand (to get away from my own countrymen, government, backstabbers, exploiters, and other sponging-races that are sucking the life out of my former country). Being in Thailand, I had no interest in "getting chummy" with other foreigners, although I would not turn down a friendly offer to have a good chat....but obviously most foreigners that I run accross....aren't interested in even a simple "hello".

I agree with your post.

[Thaiberius]

I avoid and ignore pissed farangs wherever I see them in Thailand. There may be some who criticise Thai's for this and that but white farangs have the monopoly on total BS when pissed.

[Mango Bob]

The world would be a better place if people were not so grumpy like the old farts here in this forum. It so much trouble for them just to smile and say hello back. No one says you have to become friends and it doesn't have to happen at a gym.

[tonypace02]

Maybe they are fugitives and don't want to attract attention.

[Greg Nixon]

Perhaps they do not speak English. Do you extend every white person in your home country a greeting ? Perhaps the people involved value normalcy and privacy.

My fear is having too many English speaking friends thus interfering with learning the Thai language which is only at about a 5 or 6 yr old level.

These are only a few reasons why people may not speak to you.

[uptheos]

Geez if you said G'day to me I would start singing Waltzing Matilda crack out the Barbi throw on a coupla snags and try and root ya shiela. Haha

No doubt.......conversation would be impossible.

Maybe you have summarized perfectly why people do not speak to others.

Edited May 5, 2014 by uptheos

[Donnie Brasco]

I used to be pretty out going towards most farangs I came across when I first came here, these days I try and stay away from "random" farangs as typically they want something off you or are mentally unhinged in some respect, I can could the number of farangs I associate with on one hand and its going to stay that way.

I agree with you. Can you imagine a bloke walking into a pub and saying, "I find a lot of immigrants here to be somewhat from the lower spectrum of success in their home country while I'm driven and motivated to work hard. Is there any of you that are worthy enough for me to speak to?"

One suspects the person concerned will be sitting in the corner on his own sipping his baby cham

I think the issue is a "whitey" comes to Thailand and expects all the other "whities" they come acrosd to treat them like long lost relatives

Not really, Soutpeel. Not really.

A little civility and the normal courtesies would be just fine.

Those seem in rather short supply.

I've seen it in other expat communities as well. Mexico, France and East Africa, for example.

After the meet and greet phase people, particularly male expats, tend to gravitate to the "qualifying rounds" of socialization.

After that, ritual seems to play a big part in this. This may or may not be an authentic grading process which includes but is not limited to acceptance and rejection of a group or by a group on the basis of common interests, age, (and yes) sexual preference.

Then what follows is the male competitiveness, skulduggery and "capital-craft" that tends to play out to some degree or other among new acquaintances. The guy's chosen or default working field is a big one. A polite declaration that "one's time is one's own" is met with a polite knowing nod followed . . . . . . . . . . by a "@$$hoal" or "BS" the moment one's back is turned.

Another big factor seems to be whether the wives or girlfriends would have anything in common. . . . or too much in common.

Women, Thai women especially tend to be very clannish, classist, ultra-competitive creatures and will soon make domestic life hellish for a husband or boyfriend with "too many friends." Nights out with friends must be "booked" with an attendance list.

This kind of sorting can cause huge problems.

There are SO many variables here.

Honestly, Soutpeel, I just do not care any more. If some guy in Foodland or Tesco smiles and says hello I respond. If he "wants too much" (to quote a celebrity with whom I chased fun, at one point) . . . . . . if he wants too much I have the social skills to "dis-enveigle" if necessary.

After getting through all the above there is the simply exhausting exercise of deciding whether the time you will spend getting to know this person is time you can spare.

My own posture on this board is an authentic construct.

I feel that most consistent TVers have developed persona both on and off the board that they hope will preserve their self image in this truly sad sea of poseurs, phoneys, solid chaps, fools, nitwits, rogues, authentics, good-guys, trolls and imbeciles that inhabit this board.

Life is (indeed) pain.

It is how we chose to deal with this pain that becomes our avatar.

"Sometimes, 'fuggedabowdit' just means fuggedabowdit. . . . "

[JackJD]

It never ceases to amaze me how some many people are so bored with life that they spend time in dumb threads like this. GET A LIFE GUYS!

[mrdome]

My ex wife and I knew a very nice, cultured British gentleman. He seemed to be the best of people so we wondered why he would take such a pay cut to work in Thailand when he had such a successful life in Britain.

One night we stopped for a late dinner at an all night restaurant in Siam Square and in the corner, in the dark was this man and he was being intimate with a 16 year old boy. We then understood why he was here.

Oh, so you walked over there and had the young looking male show you his ID card or you knew him from before and knew he was 16 for certain? ... Let's hope so, otherwise I'd have to place you in that 'bad farang' box also for making assumptions and being homophobic.

Not sure what this all has to with the thread topic, now turning into fellow farang bashing. Makes a nice change from the Thai bashing though.

In general I like to talk to strangers and it works well in my part of the city (formerly under socialist rule, which I always found to facilitate communication, note the change when crossing from Thailand to Laos) but at home we tend to ignore most folks as well, no? In time, those worth knowing will reveal themselves. Many people are just cautios, I'd say.

[8OA8]

I have the same thing happen to me no matter where I go. They will not even make eye contact. Judging from the people who post on his forum I'm not surprise, many are not worth the time of day.

The Crosseyed curse perhaps?

[enuff said]

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I keep reading that a response to a simple "Hello" "How you doin' ?" "What's up?" "Good morning", often results in an unpleasant encounter.

Guys: You have to have the social graces to extricate yourselves from these situations. I realize they make your guts churn and your knee jerk but that happens a lot in life and sometimes you can't run away.

I have a friend who is totally grossed out by khatouey. He will actually run from them/cross the street to avoid them. The giant horsey faced ones with the gobs of make-up practically cause a panic attack. In effect, they run his life. He lives way up country so he only sees them when he comes to BKK for shopping, thank heavens. I, on the other hand, find them a good laff and, if you joke with them a little in a way that says "no", they quickly move on to greener pastures.

I only told that story to illustrate that ---> There are ways to deal with khatouey, even pushy ones, and not lose your cool. They are an extreme end of the spectrum but it can be done.

There are ways to deal with strangers who's offer of a greeting turns into an agenda. Figure some out that work for you. as in "This is a real coincidence. My buffalo is sick, too."

Don't be afraid! Give people a chance to be nice.

'nuff said

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[ChoakMyDee]

LOL at the grumpy old bastards that can't spare a smile or a "hello" in passing.

[healthbkkbkk]

Oh, so you walked over there and had the young looking male show you his ID card or you knew him from before and knew he was 16 for certain? ... Let's hope so, otherwise I'd have to place you in that 'bad farang' box also for making assumptions and being homophobic.

Not sure what this all has to with the thread topic, now turning into fellow farang bashing. Makes a nice change from the Thai bashing though.

In general I like to talk to strangers and it works well in my part of the city (formerly under socialist rule, which I always found to facilitate communication, note the change when crossing from Thailand to Laos) but at home we tend to ignore most folks as well, no? In time, those worth knowing will reveal themselves. Many people are just cautios, I'd say.

Your comment is simplistic to say the least but obviously you have a need to defend a pedophile. It's your life but don't get caught by the police or a real man.

You must not have read the entire post, only the part that excites you about pedophilia, because if you had read the entire post you would see how silly your comment is.

Equating the condemnation of pedophilia with the condemnation of homosexuality is worrying to an extreme, perhaps you should be put under surveillance?