CAPO warns charter court not to overstep its authority

[Bakseeda]

What was Samak kicked out for? Receiving 5,000 Baht for appearing on a cookery programme in a previous piece of blatantly political interference from the courts.

Tarit was effectively a civil servant who was openly critical of the government. He had to go.

Take care Millwall fan , you a a Farang who is openly critical of the next government.. perhaps YOU will have to go.. Haha..

[Tatsujin]

What was Samak kicked out for? Receiving 5,000 Baht for appearing on a cookery programme in a previous piece of blatantly political interference from the courts.

Tarit was effectively a civil servant who was openly critical of the government. He had to go.

Continuing on from my dismissal of your knowledge of Politics, it was "Thawil Pliensri" who was transferred . . . "Tarit Pengdit" is the head of Thaksin's private Police force, the DSI . . . and according to the Constitution, civil servants and MP's have every legal right to be critical of the Government hence why the transfer was "illegal".

[invex]

yeah yeah. talking Samak........... ge here, just a few days ago:

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/webmobile/national/Samaks-wife-Pracha-ordered-by-court-to-pay-Bt587-m-30232584.html

[h90]

Samak was kicked out since he did another job which he got paid for while he was PM and lied about it. The rest of the cabinet wasn't involved.

Yingluck's case is different. Most of the cabinet was voting for the illegal transfer of Thawil.

Yes Samak cooked alone.....If it would be "The Samak and friends cooking show" and the ministers cut the onion for him than the case would be similar.

And everything together has nothing to do with the CAPO.

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What was Samak kicked out for? Receiving 5,000 Baht for appearing on a cookery programme in a previous piece of blatantly political interference from the courts.

Tarit was effectively a civil servant who was openly critical of the government. He had to go.

Stick to football . . . your ideas of Politics are inane . . . Samak was kicked out for BREAKING THE LAW, simple as that.

The law is applied partially. Why no investigation of Suthep's shady land deals when he was deputy PM? Why- because he's on the 'right' side (in every sense of the word.

The law should be applied equally, nobody will argue with that.

It you want a tit for tat discussion then stand by for a deluge of examples of where there has been no investigation / the law hasn't been applied fairly in regard to the paymaster klan and his business pt party & members business, and/or examples of the paymasters changing laws on the spot to benefit himself massively.

Here's one example: former wife charged with massive tax evasion, found guilty and sentenced to 2 years in jail, appeals and the charges are quashed on the tiniest technical point which was questionable anyway and should have been easily noticed (it it really had any merit) in the lengthy initial case.

Another, the ear medicine man son and the murdered policeman... t

[h90]

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What was Samak kicked out for? Receiving 5,000 Baht for appearing on a cookery programme in a previous piece of blatantly political interference from the courts.

Tarit was effectively a civil servant who was openly critical of the government. He had to go.

Stick to football . . . your ideas of Politics are inane . . . Samak was kicked out for BREAKING THE LAW, simple as that.

The law is applied partially. Why no investigation of Suthep's shady land deals when he was deputy PM? Why- because he's on the 'right' side (in every sense of the word.

Maybe because noone could find anything wrong in it from 1995 till now. Beside Thaksins party no one found something wrong.

The ultra short version: people who are since a long time farming on that lands got the land. It was meant to help poor farmer.

But a very small amount who were still farming got rich over the decades. They also got the land.

[ginjag]

What was Samak kicked out for? Receiving 5,000 Baht for appearing on a cookery programme in a previous piece of blatantly political interference from the courts.

Tarit was effectively a civil servant who was openly critical of the government. He had to go.

Samak LIED to the court about his payments, NOT THE COOKING

TARIT was removed because he was not a family member, as 5 of the top jobs have to be Shin related---Healthy NO WAY, If you don't like the truth ---go back supporting MIllwall.

[WhizBang]

Once more CAPO oversteps it's authority by threatening the CC.

The CC should hit CAPO with contempt of court charges.

[culicine]

Once again PT, Thaksin and CAPO overstep THEIR boundaries by threatening/warning the Courts . . . CAPO has <deleted> all to do with anything other than maintaining peace and order during the ISA . . . they (should) have no influence and no opinion on what the Courts do or do not do. I hope they get slapped down by the Courts once again for exceeding their mandate.

I thought it was CAPO'a JOB to maintain peace and order. S they are openly admitting they cannot perform the function they are supposed to do. Isn't this also dereliction of duty? Tarit and his cronies days are also numbered. He's making a mint now so I doubt he cares all that much.

[Bluespunk]

Perhaps CAPO should take it's own advice.

Errrrr............................?

Yes?

CAPO has no right to advise threaten the courts on their judgments. Do you disagree?

Edited May 7, 2014 by Bluespunk

[ginjag]

Once more CAPO oversteps it's authority by threatening the CC.

The CC should hit CAPO with contempt of court charges.

General Nth England term ---Capo You want to shut the Gob up. Stupid as this will anger the CC more.

My belief is Thaksin s last stand, (G Custer) Now this is exactly what the tactics are, get the anger going against the CC, Yingluck is playing her lovely role in his plan, with all this appealing and whipping up hatred with your not fair talk.

Remember a few months ago the REDS were saying Suthep and his brigade were asking for a coup, when they wanted early elections.

The worm turns now, Thaksins brigade want fighting turnout in the streets because he didn't get his wishes met. HE wants a coup now hence the battle to start, His only way out now for all the excuses to blame anyone--and military.

[Piichai]

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What was Samak kicked out for? Receiving 5,000 Baht for appearing on a cookery programme in a previous piece of blatantly political interference from the courts.

Tarit was effectively a civil servant who was openly critical of the government. He had to go.

Stick to football . . . your ideas of Politics are inane . . . Samak was kicked out for BREAKING THE LAW, simple as that.

The law is applied partially. Why no investigation of Suthep's shady land deals when he was deputy PM? Why- because he's on the 'right' side (in every sense of the word.

Maybe because noone could find anything wrong in it from 1995 till now. Beside Thaksins party no one found something wrong.

The ultra short version: people who are since a long time farming on that lands got the land. It was meant to help poor farmer.

But a very small amount who were still farming got rich over the decades. They also got the land.

You are correct!

It's been a while since I looked into it, but IIRC, approximately 458 families who lived on the land received land grants. Of those 458, about 5 who had been living on the land were considered wealthy.

One wonders how wealthy they were if they were living where they were living.

[ratcatcher]

What was Samak kicked out for? Receiving 5,000 Baht for appearing on a cookery programme in a previous piece of blatantly political interference from the courts.

Tarit was effectively a civil servant who was openly critical of the government. He had to go.

Samak LIED to the court about his payments, NOT THE COOKING

TARIT was removed because he was not a family member, as 5 of the top jobs have to be Shin related---Healthy NO WAY, If you don't like the truth ---go back supporting MIllwall.

This is Tarit Pengdith, head of DSI and secretary of CAPO..

This is Thawil Pliensri head of the NSC. Previously transferred by PTP.

[ginjag]

What was Samak kicked out for? Receiving 5,000 Baht for appearing on a cookery programme in a previous piece of blatantly political interference from the courts.

Tarit was effectively a civil servant who was openly critical of the government. He had to go.

Samak LIED to the court about his payments, NOT THE COOKING

TARIT was removed because he was not a family member, as 5 of the top jobs have to be Shin related---Healthy NO WAY, If you don't like the truth ---go back supporting MIllwall.

Wrong name folks TARIT---sorry Too many names beginning T.

[ginjag]

What was Samak kicked out for? Receiving 5,000 Baht for appearing on a cookery programme in a previous piece of blatantly political interference from the courts.

Tarit was effectively a civil servant who was openly critical of the government. He had to go.

Samak LIED to the court about his payments, NOT THE COOKING

TARIT was removed because he was not a family member, as 5 of the top jobs have to be Shin related---Healthy NO WAY, If you don't like the truth ---go back supporting MIllwall.

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This is Tarit Pengdith, head of DSI and secretary of CAPO..

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This is Thawil Pliensri head of the NSC. Previously transferred by PTP.

Thanks -I already amended my stupid post, just got mixed up with the excitement.

[BigRick]

Everyone of us better pray for a peaceful resolution to this conflict. It does not benefit any of us living here when the country is in turmoil. I like Thailand a lot it has its annoyances but they are a small price to pay for the comfortable lifestyle. We are seeing the future of the Western world being played out here. Monied interests fighting for control at the expenses of its citizens.

[sweatalot]

In a statement read by Tarit Pengdit, secretary of Capo, said that the Constitutional Court had already set a precedent when it ruled on the status of then prime minister Samak Sundaravej and only Samak lost his premiership while his cabinet continued to function.

Well, since this government is so horrible, it looks like the CC is going to set another precedent and remove the entire caretaker cabinet. Yingluck testified it wasn't her fault but that the cabinet made the decision. Damned them out of her own mouth..

Since Samak’s case and Ms Yingluck’s case are similar, the ruling by the charter court on the latter’s case should be in the same direction – that is the ruling is binding only to the prime minister, said Capo.

Perfect example of defective Thaksin logic; self-serving to the maximum.

Capo maintained that its warning to the court was not an act of interference in the court’s affairs but merely wanted to preempt possible unrest which may result from an unfair ruling.

Another example of PTP/UDD threats that they say are not threats. e.g. "Something terrible is going to happen to you if you don't do as I want you to do; but that is not a threat".

The CC court needs to issue a statement saying, "CAPO is not my father".

What about the CC investigating if CAPO acts in accordance with constitution?

[sweatalot]

Who is CAPO to judge over the authority of the Constitutional Court?

[Thait Spot]

I think the best thing to hope for is that YS either resigns today or gets the chop, Abhisit stands down, elections go ahead and it's Korn on a reform platform vs another plastic Shinawatra

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What was Samak kicked out for? Receiving 5,000 Baht for appearing on a cookery programme in a previous piece of blatantly political interference from the courts.

Tarit was effectively a civil servant who was openly critical of the government. He had to go.

Stick to football . . . your ideas of Politics are inane . . . Samak was kicked out for BREAKING THE LAW, simple as that.

The law is applied partially. Why no investigation of Suthep's shady land deals when he was deputy PM? Why- because he's on the 'right' side (in every sense of the word.

Off topic

[AleG]

He is doing exactly the opposite of what his purpoted position is, he is by this statements creating division and unrest among the Thaksin/PTP supporters who will lap up every accusation of unfairness and double standards.

What someone with the interest of the country in mind would say as part of their mission to maintain peace and order (f**s sake, is in the name of the organization he is running!) is to call on all people to understand and accept the ruling of the highest court of the land without causing unrest and turmoil. But no, threats to the court and rattling the cage of the Red Shirts is what he does.

This stinks of desperation from Tarit, he must have a lot to lose from his masters losing control of the country.

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Stick to football . . . your ideas of Politics are inane . . . Samak was kicked out for BREAKING THE LAW, simple as that.

The law is applied partially. Why no investigation of Suthep's shady land deals when he was deputy PM? Why- because he's on the 'right' side (in every sense of the word.

Maybe because noone could find anything wrong in it from 1995 till now. Beside Thaksins party no one found something wrong.

The ultra short version: people who are since a long time farming on that lands got the land. It was meant to help poor farmer.

But a very small amount who were still farming got rich over the decades. They also got the land.

You are correct!

It's been a while since I looked into it, but IIRC, approximately 458 families who lived on the land received land grants. Of those 458, about 5 who had been living on the land were considered wealthy.

One wonders how wealthy they were if they were living where they were living.

Well tourist area.......with some worthless land direct on the beach someone poor could get rich.

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What was Samak kicked out for? Receiving 5,000 Baht for appearing on a cookery programme in a previous piece of blatantly political interference from the courts.

Tarit was effectively a civil servant who was openly critical of the government. He had to go.

Stick to football . . . your ideas of Politics are inane . . . Samak was kicked out for BREAKING THE LAW, simple as that.

The law is applied partially. Why no investigation of Suthep's shady land deals when he was deputy PM? Why- because he's on the 'right' side (in every sense of the word.

You might want to consider who else was involved to understand why there was no investigation . . . it wasn't just Suthep involved . . . but yes, if the law is not applied impartially, then there is reason to make changes to the law, the constitution and those that enforce those laws. But let's do it in such a way that the public is involved in the entire process and has a say about what and how those laws should be changed.

Crazy idea, but perhaps we could have some reforms first before elections, so that we don't end up back in the same situation as we've had the last 10 years with elections, protests, people removed, new elections etc . . . perhaps we could also have some laws that say if a Politician is found guilty of anything illegal, they are banned for life, with no Parliamentary immunity . . . and then enforce those laws correctly. That would see Suthep out of Politics . . . along with many, many other corrupt individuals and families.

That would see Suthep out of Politics . . . along with many, many other corrupt individuals and families.

... including the complete PTP and "UDD"

[Tatsujin]

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The law is applied partially. Why no investigation of Suthep's shady land deals when he was deputy PM? Why- because he's on the 'right' side (in every sense of the word.

You might want to consider who else was involved to understand why there was no investigation . . . it wasn't just Suthep involved . . . but yes, if the law is not applied impartially, then there is reason to make changes to the law, the constitution and those that enforce those laws. But let's do it in such a way that the public is involved in the entire process and has a say about what and how those laws should be changed.

Crazy idea, but perhaps we could have some reforms first before elections, so that we don't end up back in the same situation as we've had the last 10 years with elections, protests, people removed, new elections etc . . . perhaps we could also have some laws that say if a Politician is found guilty of anything illegal, they are banned for life, with no Parliamentary immunity . . . and then enforce those laws correctly. That would see Suthep out of Politics . . . along with many, many other corrupt individuals and families.

That would see Suthep out of Politics . . . along with many, many other corrupt individuals and families.

... including the complete PTP and "UDD"

Indeed . . . get rid of the corrupt, stinking, lying lot of them

[rametindallas]

In a statement read by Tarit Pengdit, secretary of Capo, said that the Constitutional Court had already set a precedent when it ruled on the status of then prime minister Samak Sundaravej and only Samak lost his premiership while his cabinet continued to function.

Well, since this government is so horrible, it looks like the CC is going to set another precedent and remove the entire caretaker cabinet. Yingluck testified it wasn't her fault but that the cabinet made the decision. Damned them out of her own mouth..

Since Samak’s case and Ms Yingluck’s case are similar, the ruling by the charter court on the latter’s case should be in the same direction – that is the ruling is binding only to the prime minister, said Capo.

Perfect example of defective Thaksin logic; self-serving to the maximum.

Capo maintained that its warning to the court was not an act of interference in the court’s affairs but merely wanted to preempt possible unrest which may result from an unfair ruling.

Another example of PTP/UDD threats that they say are not threats. e.g. "Something terrible is going to happen to you if you don't do as I want you to do; but that is not a threat".

The CC court needs to issue a statement saying, "CAPO is not my father".

What about the CC investigating if CAPO acts in accordance with constitution?

I'm pretty sure the CC does not initiate investigations nor charges. Someone like the NAAC, or the Attorney General, etc. brings cases to the CC. Also the CC, if it chooses can hear appeals from a lower court. The behavior of the CAPO has lots that would appeal to an investigative organization. If the DSI weren't 'on the take' from Thaksin, they would be an ideal agency to investigate the apparent corrupt spending of CAPO.

Edited May 7, 2014 by rametindallas

[JesseFrank]

What was Samak kicked out for? Receiving 5,000 Baht for appearing on a cookery programme in a previous piece of blatantly political interference from the courts.

Tarit was effectively a civil servant who was openly critical of the government. He had to go.

Tarit was part of Cres who gave the orders during the 2010 crack down on the protesters, and for which he accuses Abhisit an Suthep of murder now, while he was part of the so called murder team.

[Ricardo]

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The law is applied partially. Why no investigation of Suthep's shady land deals when he was deputy PM? Why- because he's on the 'right' side (in every sense of the word.

You might want to consider who else was involved to understand why there was no investigation . . . it wasn't just Suthep involved . . . but yes, if the law is not applied impartially, then there is reason to make changes to the law, the constitution and those that enforce those laws. But let's do it in such a way that the public is involved in the entire process and has a say about what and how those laws should be changed.

Crazy idea, but perhaps we could have some reforms first before elections, so that we don't end up back in the same situation as we've had the last 10 years with elections, protests, people removed, new elections etc . . . perhaps we could also have some laws that say if a Politician is found guilty of anything illegal, they are banned for life, with no Parliamentary immunity . . . and then enforce those laws correctly. That would see Suthep out of Politics . . . along with many, many other corrupt individuals and families.

That would see Suthep out of Politics . . . along with many, many other corrupt individuals and families.

... including the complete PTP and "UDD"

Indeed . . . get rid of the corrupt, stinking, lying lot of them

Hang on a moment, aren't most of us anti-government posters all supposed to be rabidly in favour, of corrupt fascistic Amart coupist thug-leaders ?

Or perhaps we're merely anti-corruption anti-crooked-establishment, wherever it's found, on both the Red or Yellower sides ?

But that, while perhaps reasonable or more true, goes against the standard demonising Red-poster play-sheet.

So perhaps that characterisation is over-simplistic too, or just plain wrong ?

[Tatsujin]

That would see Suthep out of Politics . . . along with many, many other corrupt individuals and families.

... including the complete PTP and "UDD"

Indeed . . . get rid of the corrupt, stinking, lying lot of them

Hang on a moment, aren't most of us anti-government posters all supposed to be rabidly in favour, of corrupt fascistic Amart coupist thug-leaders ?

Or perhaps we're merely anti-corruption anti-crooked-establishment, wherever it's found, on both the Red or Yellower sides ?

But that, while perhaps reasonable or more true, goes against the standard demonising Red-poster play-sheet.

So perhaps that characterisation is over-simplistic too, or just plain wrong ?

Or perhaps we're merely anti-corruption anti-crooked-establishment, wherever it's found, on both the Red or Yellower sides ?

You got it!

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He is doing exactly the opposite of what his purpoted position is, he is by this statements creating division and unrest among the Thaksin/PTP supporters who will lap up every accusation of unfairness and double standards.

What someone with the interest of the country in mind would say as part of their mission to maintain peace and order (f**s sake, is in the name of the organization he is running!) is to call on all people to understand and accept the ruling of the highest court of the land without causing unrest and turmoil. But no, threats to the court and rattling the cage of the Red Shirts is what he does.

This stinks of desperation from Tarit, he must have a lot to lose from his masters losing control of the country.

Denmark might be good, there is history, maybe they could all live together, birds of a feather, etc.

Edited May 7, 2014 by scorecard

[pmugghc]

Great article about the ills of "Majoritarianism", very relevant for Thailand's situation:

http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21579850-note-turkeys-prime-minister-among-others-winning-elections-not-enough-zombie-democracy