China evacuates workers after Vietnam deadly riots

[Lite Beer]

China evacuates workers after Vietnam deadly riots

At least 15 foreign-owned factories have been torched in Vietnam in recent days

The Chinese government has evacuated more than 3,000 of its nationals from Vietnam following a wave of anti-Chinese riots, Chinese media report.

State-run Xinhua news agency says Beijing is arranging charter flights and ships to help more people to leave.

At least two Chinese nationals have been killed and 100 injured in recent unrest in Vietnam over a Chinese oil rig drilling in disputed waters.

On Saturday the Vietnamese government called for an end to the protests.

Officials said "illegal acts" would be stopped as they could damage national stability. However, dissident groups have urged people to rally again in major cities on Sunday.

In recent days crowds have set fire to at least 15 foreign-owned factories - including Chinese, Taiwanese and South Korean businesses - in several Vietnamese industrial parks.

Read More: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-27458866

-- BBC 2014-05-18

[chooka]

China seems to do what ever the want wherever they want and think they own the South China Sea.

[kurnell]

Don't <deleted> with the Vietnamese! Hasn't China already lost a war with them...as well as another superpower we won't mention. It wasn't really a draw was it?

[MrWorldwide]

You forgot the French - at the time still a force to be reckoned with. They certainly didnt give a hoot about world condemnation when they detonated nukes in the Pacific back in the 70s.

Getting back to these fires, I doubt that the Taiwanese and South Korean owners and management feel any particular love for Beijing - burning down their factories seems more like racist/nationalistic fervor gone awry. Someone whips the villagers into a frenzy and before you know it they want to burn down every castle within a 50 mile radius. Way to encourage foreign investment in a developing nation, comrades

[NeverSure]

Vietnam unfortunately is communist and is struggling with its ally to the North. It's in a quandary.

As the US buys more and more of its exports, the less it needs China. The US has an uneasy relationship with China, but remains by far the biggest buyer of China's exports.

I see Vietnam pulling away from China so that it doesn't get bullied as the semi-colonial Chinese country it is, and more and more gravitating to the US for trade and defense.

[Lite Beer]

China evacuates 3,000 nationals from Vietnam after deadly unrest

BEIJING - China has evacuated more than 3,000 of its nationals from Vietnam following a wave of deadly anti-Beijing unrest, state media said Sunday, as Vietnamese civil society groups called for renewed demonstrations in several cities.

The Xinhua news agency said the evacuees included 16 nationals who were "critically injured" in the worst anti-China violence in Vietnam in decades triggered by Beijing’s deployment of an oil rig in contested South China Sea waters.

They were pulled out on a chartered medical flight and China was dispatching five ships to Vietnam to pluck more nationals to safety, after an alliance of 20 vocal Vietnamese NGOs called for fresh protests Sunday in the capital Hanoi, the southern economic hub of Ho Chi Minh City, and other areas against China’s "aggressive actions" in the South China Sea.

But Vietnamese authorities, which have occasionally allowed protests to vent anger at the country’s giant neighbour, warned they would "resolutely" prevent any further outbursts.

China’s positioning of an oil rig in waters also claimed by Vietnam has ignited long-simmering enmity between the two communist neighbours, which have fought territorial skirmishes in past decades.

Worker demonstrations spread to 22 of Vietnam’s 63 provinces in the last week, according to the Vietnamese government, with enraged mobs torching foreign-owned factories. The violence left at least two Chinese workers dead and more than 100 injured.

More than 3,000 Chinese nationals had been evacuated from Vietnam as of Saturday afternoon, Xinhua reported early Sunday.

"They returned to China with the assistance of (the) Chinese Embassy to Vietnam," it said, citing China’s foreign ministry.

Beijing has also advised its nationals against travelling to Vietnam.

-- The Nation 2014-05-18

[Civil War]

More SEA xenophobic reactions.

Right or wrong....

I can see the region's reaction to ASEAN once it is in full swing is going to be as popular as a wet fart in a spacesuit.

Wait till the people from the poorer countries start pouring into the richer nations and taking jobs for less salary and opening up businesses in competition with those of the natural citizens and see how it all goes down.

It will be like the EU discontent on steroids.

[Kasset Tak]

The problem is that the people don't know if it's a Chinese, Taiwanese or Korean factory, they are just fed up with China and the factories that have owners from other countries are collateral damage. The Vietnamese people have fought against colonial countries before and some of them now sees that China is trying to make a colony out of Vietnam or some of its areas again. Chinese companies are building the factories in Vietnam but then they have Chinese workers. Try that in Thailand or own home countries, Would it be accepted?!

It all comes down to the fact that China wants more areas and are currently have disputes with at least 3 countries (Vietnam, Philippines and Japan) about islands and surrounding areas.

Edited May 18, 2014 by Kasset Tak

[hansnl]

More SEA xenophobic reactions.

Right or wrong....

I can see the region's reaction to ASEAN once it is in full swing is going to be as popular as a wet fart in a spacesuit.

Wait till the people from the poorer countries start pouring into the richer nations and taking jobs for less salary and opening up businesses in competition with those of the natural citizens and see how it all goes down.

It will be like the EU discontent on steroids.

Seems to be going on in Thailand already

[Suradit69]

You forgot the French - at the time still a force to be reckoned with. They certainly didnt give a hoot about world condemnation when they detonated nukes in the Pacific back in the 70s.

Getting back to these fires, I doubt that the Taiwanese and South Korean owners and management feel any particular love for Beijing - burning down their factories seems more like racist/nationalistic fervor gone awry. Someone whips the villagers into a frenzy and before you know it they want to burn down every castle within a 50 mile radius. Way to encourage foreign investment in a developing nation, comrades

"Someone whips the villagers into a frenzy ..."

A popular tactic used here at the Farang Fantasy Factory where posters imagine examples of corruption, police incompetence, political ineptitude without an ounce of proof ... (even in some cases producing imaginary conversations between motorcyclists and police officers in a recent thread) ... and the TV villagers start a bashing frenzy based on the fabricated accusations. Unstable, unhappy people tend to go bonkers with little justifiable provocation and without regard to who is targeted in their frenzy.

Edited May 18, 2014 by Suradit69

[CMCMANGOMAN]

Where is Chuck Norris when you need him? Seriously!

[Tomtomtom69]

The problem is that the people don't know if it's a Chinese, Taiwanese or Korean factory, they are just fed up with China and the factories that have owners from other countries are collateral damage. The Vietnamese people have fought against colonial countries before and some of them now sees that China is trying to make a colony out of Vietnam or some of its areas again. Chinese companies are building the factories in Vietnam but then they have Chinese workers. Try that in Thailand or own home countries, Would it be accepted?!

It all comes down to the fact that China wants more areas and are currently have disputes with at least 3 countries (Vietnam, Philippines and Japan) about islands and surrounding areas.

Chinese workers shouldn't be allowed to work inside factories in Vietnam and other countries. How can Vietnam accept that for this long? Vietnamese workers are cheaper and speak the local lingo, so why would any Vietnamese factory (even if Chinese owned) need Chinese workers who are more expensive and aren't legally authorized to work in Vietnam? How many Australian factories employ Australian workers in Vietnam? How many American factories employ American workers in Vietnam? Probably none! So why have the Chinese been able to get away with it? To me this seems like a case of a double standard - probably the Chinese pay some protection money to the police or immigration or something (in order to avoid immigration arresting these illegal workers), which western companies don't do due to the principle of "we don't do corruption back home, so we don't do it here either". The only foreigners that should be able to work in factories in countries like Vietnam should be factory managers and one or two other skilled managers that oversee production performed by local workers.

Doesn't Vietnam have local/foreigner worker ratios like Thailand does?

Edited May 18, 2014 by Tomtomtom69

[hardy1943]

The problem is that the people don't know if it's a Chinese, Taiwanese or Korean factory, they are just fed up with China and the factories that have owners from other countries are collateral damage. The Vietnamese people have fought against colonial countries before and some of them now sees that China is trying to make a colony out of Vietnam or some of its areas again. Chinese companies are building the factories in Vietnam but then they have Chinese workers. Try that in Thailand or own home countries, Would it be accepted?!

It all comes down to the fact that China wants more areas and are currently have disputes with at least 3 countries (Vietnam, Philippines and Japan) about islands and surrounding areas.

Chinese workers shouldn't be allowed to work inside factories in Vietnam and other countries. How can Vietnam accept that for this long? Vietnamese workers are cheaper and speak the local lingo, so why would any Vietnamese factory (even if Chinese owned) need Chinese workers who are more expensive and aren't legally authorized to work in Vietnam? How many Australian factories employ Australian workers in Vietnam? How many American factories employ American workers in Vietnam? Probably none! So why have the Chinese been able to get away with it? To me this seems like a case of a double standard - probably the Chinese pay some protection money to the police or immigration or something (in order to avoid immigration arresting these illegal workers), which western companies don't do due to the principle of "we don't do corruption back home, so we don't do it here either". The only foreigners that should be able to work in factories in countries like Vietnam should be factory managers and one or two other skilled managers that oversee production performed by local workers.

Doesn't Vietnam have local/foreigner worker ratios like Thailand does?

All I can say they have some balls which most Asian Countires lack and Thailand included.

Edited May 18, 2014 by hardy1943

[ggt]

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Don't <deleted> with the Vietnamese! Hasn't China already lost a war with them...as well as another superpower we won't mention. It wasn't really a draw was it?

You can mention the US...dark day in American history...with it seems...darker days coming...

[wwest5829]

after an alliance of 20 vocal Vietnamese NGOs called for fresh protests Sunday in the capital Hanoi,

they seem to have missed this bit from other sources:

The alliance comprises largely of anti-government organisations and is believed to have played a role in stirring the recent protests.

now i wonder just who would be funding these characters, USAid no doubt. thats what they do best, spread death destruction and mayhem where ever they go.

Very funny, you do have your tongue in your cheek....don't you. No problem with me if you want to continue to castigate the U.S. Humm, but they are not the one's in Asia claiming the entire South China Sea conflicting with the established Law of the Seas and national territory of Vietnam, Philippines, Brunei, South Korea, Japan, etc. Where is your outrage at spreading political instability aimed at China?

[wwest5829]

The problem is that the people don't know if it's a Chinese, Taiwanese or Korean factory, they are just fed up with China and the factories that have owners from other countries are collateral damage. The Vietnamese people have fought against colonial countries before and some of them now sees that China is trying to make a colony out of Vietnam or some of its areas again. Chinese companies are building the factories in Vietnam but then they have Chinese workers. Try that in Thailand or own home countries, Would it be accepted?!

It all comes down to the fact that China wants more areas and are currently have disputes with at least 3 countries (Vietnam, Philippines and Japan) about islands and surrounding areas.

I do believe that the economic disparity between the wealthy and poor is a root cause of much of what I see happening in political instability worldwide. Granted the Vietnam' "spark" has been the Chinese claim and physical attempt to establish territorial claims but... It takes very little these days, due to economic stress, I believe, to set the populace off. In other nations we see increased right wing, nationalistic movements rising. Whether in U.S. Politics, the Ukraine, the EU or Thailand the economic stress of not having a fairer and more equitable distribution of wealth will continue to cause social stress. Many times the stress will evidence itself by being focused first on foreigners as being an easy target as those holding power try to direct attention away from the real cause of the stress. Well, I submit this for some thought.

[brianP]

I see a backlash of angst against China as China is expanding it's resource and business grabbing schemes globally. People are wising up to the future of Chinese domination. China builds it's own agenda in other countries and puts in rail and transport systems to cart off the booty to China and the grinding industrial machine that produces the crap we are force fed. I do not buy anything Chinese made period!

[The byaMemo]

more

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/aec/China-freezes-some-Vietnam-ties-warns-of-further-a-30233953.html

one wonders if the march begins where it would stop. long term could be a good thing. short term, lets skip baby. chosen east africa for me already.

[longballlarry]

Jesus

I'm working in Vietnam at the moment and fly back to BKK in a couple of weeks.Not sure which one will be the most fxcked up by then. Quite looking forward to the normality of the UK now !!

[The byaMemo]

more

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/aec/China-freezes-some-Vietnam-ties-warns-of-further-a-30233953.html

one wonders if the march begins where it would stop. long term could be a good thing. short term, lets skip baby. chosen east africa for me already.

Jesus

I'm working in Vietnam at the moment and fly back to BKK in a couple of weeks.Not sure which one will be the most fxcked up by then. Quite looking forward to the normality of the UK now !!

bit of a long stretch but you will also note :http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/726879-lao-plane-carrying-defence-chief-crashes-thai-official/

Lao plane carrying defence chief crashes,,, About 20 people were on board including Defence Minister Douangchay Phichit, the Vientiane governor and other prominent figures....

are you afraid yet?

i'd say the timing is exquisite and the preplanning superb. now is the time to jump it is was ever in the plan.

dont forget you have to add in the ukraine focus distraction.

Edited May 19, 2014 by The byaMemo

[marylin manson]

http://www.asianewsnet.net/news-60585.html

Yesterday, the two leaders opened a week-long bilateral naval drill in the East China Sea aimed at a "maritime threat".

Xi said the exercise showed "the unshakable determination and will of China and Russia to together face new threats and challenges to protect regional security and stability", reported the China News Service.

wasnt it russia who backed vietnam against the retards way back?

its going to be interesting to say the least. india too should fall in under treaty obligations.

Edited May 21, 2014 by marylin manson

[kaorop]

The problem is that the people don't know if it's a Chinese, Taiwanese or Korean factory, they are just fed up with China and the factories that have owners from other countries are collateral damage. The Vietnamese people have fought against colonial countries before and some of them now sees that China is trying to make a colony out of Vietnam or some of its areas again. Chinese companies are building the factories in Vietnam but then they have Chinese workers. Try that in Thailand or own home countries, Would it be accepted?!

It all comes down to the fact that China wants more areas and are currently have disputes with at least 3 countries (Vietnam, Philippines and Japan) about islands and surrounding areas.

I do believe that the economic disparity between the wealthy and poor is a root cause of much of what I see happening in political instability worldwide. Granted the Vietnam' "spark" has been the Chinese claim and physical attempt to establish territorial claims but... It takes very little these days, due to economic stress, I believe, to set the populace off. In other nations we see increased right wing, nationalistic movements rising. Whether in U.S. Politics, the Ukraine, the EU or Thailand the economic stress of not having a fairer and more equitable distribution of wealth will continue to cause social stress. Many times the stress will evidence itself by being focused first on foreigners as being an easy target as those holding power try to direct attention away from the real cause of the stress. Well, I submit this for some thought.

Right on the money

and obviously money is what drives it,

as if the average Viet knows or really cares about who sets up businesses in their country

till,

in many of cases its the rich of the country that destabilises things,

they don't want outsiders taking what they think should be theirs and theirs alone,

they want the sole right to exploit their own country and work force

and

by using the media

they can drum up things like this,

because its a small bump on the road for them

but could careless that its one giant big sinkhole for many other countrymen

Thailand does it with their "not ready to compete" load of rubbish.

You never get better at anything till you face better competition.