Thaksin rejects Prayuth's proposal to have caretaker govt resign

[samtam]

The source said Prayuth came up with three proposals during the seven-partite meeting on Wednesday. First, he proposed that a caretaker Cabinet to resign, secondly that an interim government be formed and thirdly, that both the red-shirt movement and the People's Democratic Reform Committee end their rallies, according to the source.

Could one just perhaps infer from this that if you don't accept then a, (or this) "solution" will be found for you, (or implemented)?

[koosdeboer]

..........like Voice of Thaksin and other assorted red rags.

If you say so. I personally have found their sources or articles verified by the BP, Straights Times, the BBC , Reuters, Bloomberg etc.

Verified or copied?

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[valvenus]

That didn't take long did it - a complete "article" based on the alleged revelations of an unnamed source. Mention Thaksin to wind everybody up and let it fly

What's the difference between this and Khaosod source articles? You seem to respond well to those!

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Khaosod is even worse, which is why he responds so well to them.

[rubl]

But are they really fed up with him Scamper? if that really is the case, why is there such a big deal about not holding elections then? If the country is fed up with him, they will vote differently isn't the always the case? You tire of a particular item of clothing you change it? you tire of a woman, you change her?

Or is it a case of they're only fed up with him, but have no issues taking money off him to vote in his party's favour, so in essence, they're not really that fed up with him, they're more fed up with the politics and the political deadlock that's occuring right now?

Honestly, in the rural areas people are getting on with their lives, its as if the issues in Bangkok are Bangkok's problems, the average Thai farmer or worker doesn't sit there glued to telly/laptop/PC watching Thai Politics the way we farang seem to be, they simply don't care, of course there are a no doubt some who do,but you simply cannot condemn someone who's on a low income, when someone offers them X amount of Baht to put an X in a particular box, simply because they really are not aware of the bigger picture, of how improper the act of vote buying is, its nothing to the Thais, it means nothing to them, it's almost part of their culture, the people who are getting upset the most about vote buying are the farangs who simply don't understand that part of their culture.

Sure they can stand up to their Head man, but many people seem to forget that these villages are very close knit, and that the Head man is not just the head man, but a friend, a relative, a fellow farmer, so they have more loyalty to him, than to a politician who they will never see in their lives, who will never visit their village etc.

I think that independent of Thaksin being finished upcountry or not reforms should make it impossible for him AND figures like him to be involved in a combination of business and politics and have their family and friends profit from it.

That goes for ALL sides of course, something some on the other side may not fully realise yet.

[Mentors]

"The source said"...

[GentlemanJim]

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Perhaps in response Gen Prayuth can now finally revoke Thaksin's passport and get an international 'red warrant' for Thaksin's arrest issued so that interpol will act, track him down and arrest him.

Interpol will never act to arrest somebody who is wanted on trumped up politically motivated charges.

Hey you know what you may really have a great point there.

If you can explain why charging someone who personally changed the law just prior to him selling a privately owned company of his to a foreign country (which was not allowed) in order that he could then also avoid paying over 100 billion in taxes (that would have benefitted the people of Thailand) is a politically trumped up charge then we can take this discussion further. (Also bear in mind these charges and the subsequent jail sentence were delivered when Thaksin's lacky's were back in power, but I guess you knew that already )

[valvenus]

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That didn't take long did it - a complete "article" based on the alleged revelations of an unnamed source. Mention Thaksin to wind everybody up and let it fly

What's the difference between this and Khaosod source articles? You seem to respond well to those!

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Khaosod provide sources or their stories can be sourced elsewhere.

Do they have sources? If they do, that would not be for the articles that completely fabricated stories (25% of the time....dont ask me for a source for this, you know its true), and in all the other cases the articles tend to go into the "allegedly" and "supposedly" mode....great journalism!

Yep, wind up the red shirt apologists with their uncorroborated BS stories and watch 'em fly.

[jonclark]

He probably didn't lie in this case as Interpol demands all formal requests to be submitted in ENGLISH. That's why DSI and Police were pointing to each other on who should do that task. As no follow up with translated documents followed Interpol didn't put Thaksin on a 'seek and apprehend list', not even a 'apprehend on sight' list.

We only have some obfuscation here, but you know that source likes to fabs-ricate and ob-fabs-cate.

Oh my, oh my, oh my. I take it you are trying to twist the fact that according to this link http://www.rednoticelawjournal.com/politically-based-red-notices/ the red notice was rejected as it did not meet Interpol criteria

which could mean anything from the paperwork not being properly submitted to the request being obviously politically based. http://www.rednoticelawjournal.com/politically-based-red-notices/

and that was down to the fact even using the total resources of DSI Thailand they couldn't find anyone to write the paperwork in ENGLISH?

Then, rather than resubmit the paperwork they thought they would keep the deceit running for a couple of years? I've already provided links in earlier threads showing Kasit pretending that his lifes work was tracking down Thaksin when he was doing nothing of the sort. If you want to call that obfuscation or lies come up with something credible instead. You know the phrase, either put up or shut up.

Yeah we all know that phrase - perhaps you could pass it on to Taksin with the emphasis on the latter half?

[chrisrazz]

The level of critical thinking of members on this site is appalling. The Nation. A source? Followed by 3 pages of comments. &lt;deleted&gt;. This is just like women's gossip magazines that use the words - insiders, pals, onlookers, fellow diners, etc. etc. to basically back up any story they care to make up. The old saying ' you can't see the woods for trees' is appropriate.

[clockman]

Remember this is Thailand. Nobody of importance, is ever punished.! I can see it happening. Complete amnesty.

[RockyBeerbelly]

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Do they have sources? If they do, that would not be for the articles that completely fabricated stories (25% of the time....dont ask me for a source for this, you know its true), and in all the other cases the articles tend to go into the "allegedly" and "supposedly" mode....great journalism!

No I don't know that 25% of Khaosod stores are completely false and yes I will ask for facts to back that up. I don't expect that to happen and will just put it down to the usual "everyone knows" rule that passes for facts used by a lot of people on this forum.

If you don't know that Khaosod makes up a large part of their stories, than you "allegedly"/"supposedly"/"apparently" don't read all their crap. Good for you Fab!

[rubl]

The level of critical thinking of members on this site is appalling. The Nation. A source? Followed by 3 pages of comments. <deleted>. This is just like women's gossip magazines that use the words - insiders, pals, onlookers, fellow diners, etc. etc. to basically back up any story they care to make up. The old saying ' you can't see the woods for trees' is appropriate.

I did indeed notice your presence

[dcutman]

Thaksin rejects Prayuth's proposal to have caretaker govt resign

Sorry T the General is in charge of the show now, You or your puppets party have no say any more. He is only trying to give you a face saving way out, and not try not to come right out and say this coup is successful, for the countries sake in the worlds view.

When reforms have been completed, there will be another election. In a year or two.

[scorecard]

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So fab4, are you saying that amnesty is a good solution? You seem to be forgetting the mass negative they causes a few months back when they tried to sneak an amended bill through parliament at 3.00 am in the morning when 99% of Thais were asleep.

Do you really actually believe they would totally completely wash their hands of all political activity, in all forms?

Does it surprise you that many folks would never ever trust this man nor his family (perhaps remember that today two more of this clan have been fined heavily for insider trading)?

[marinediscoking]

Even if Taksin was dead half of the TV's posters would still think he was controlling things from the grave.

[virtualtraveller]

It's so breathtakingly arrogant and selfish one wonders if this isn't actually just a malicious rumour. It's like; 'free me unconditionally and I'll pretend to wash my hands' - and we all know how far we can trust that one.

[antimedia]

Bugger off cretin, you will never come back to this country a free person. Take it your hell with you when you do us all a favour and croak.

[IAMSOBAD]

Was that a coup announced on all news channels just now?

[shakya]

Ahhhh the truth of Democratic PTP

. Me me me.

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Army just taken over governance of country.... Aljazeera

[IAMSOBAD]

Can anyone please update what was just broadcast. All news channels are showing a Thai badge and / or the General just like back in 2006 coup.

[GoodThaiGirl]

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Ahhhh the truth of Democratic PTP

. Me me me.

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But at least kind of honest.

The only time one can seriously use "Shinawartra" and "honest" in the same sentence is when "dis" comes between the two.

It almost beggars belief that this man still pushes for amnesty. It shows his complete and utter contempt for Thailand and the Thai people. A truly self-centered sociopath. alt=bah.gif>

Whilst on the other side of the coin, Suthep is being equally intransigent, digging his heels in and not making any compromise. With these two dunderheids, what hope is there of a positive outcome from the talks?

Unfortunately Khun Suthep is like most at TV, he dislike Shinawatra's very much ,hates them and anything they stand for.

Edited May 22, 2014 by GoodThaiGirl

[love1012]

That didn't take long did it - a complete "article" based on the alleged revelations of an unnamed source. Mention Thaksin to wind everybody up and let it fly

So you think this article is a complete lie and he hasn't said anything? Go on...........Im all ears!!

[dcutman]

Even if Taksin was dead half of the TV's posters would still think he was controlling things from the grave.

I wold love to see that theory tested, I think your assumption wold be wrong.

[IAMSOBAD]

CNN ANOUNCES COUP...

So it happened officially.

[love1012]

I thought the General was there to mediate between the warring factions, and be impartial? ...seems more like he's asking for the same things that Suthep has been asking for all along?

It doesn't seem like the General is not going to get everything his own way at all, there seems very little in terms of "compromise" there?

There's no doubt the writing is on the wall for the PTP and the caretaker Government, they're still kicking and screaming and holding on, it's going to be a very brave man to stand up and tell them, resign with effect immediately or we will simply remove you, and put someone in, in your place... but it's not a coup!!

it's the irresistible force against the immovable object at the moment.

Maybe that would suggest to an intelligent person that perhaps what Suthep was asking for was actually quite reasonable. ~Suthep's MAIN request is for Shinawatras to stay out of Thai politics. Maybe...just maybe the penny could drop now that THAT is what EVERYONE wants except the ones paid, threatened and bullied by the Dubai fugitive. Thaksin Dictatorship IS far WORSE and far more removed from democracy than martial law!!

Posts like yours criticising the Armys actions are proof that red sorts want POWER and handouts NOT peace and Democracy. Its worth fighting and imposing laws to stop them getting those things in a DEMOCRATIC country!~!!

Edited May 22, 2014 by love1012

[love1012]

Even if Taksin was dead half of the TV's posters would still think he was controlling things from the grave.

Im sure if you could buy the ability to do that for 80 billion stolen baht he'd buy it!!

[johnno2]

Perhaps in response Gen Prayuth can now finally revoke Thaksin's passport and get an international 'red warrant' for Thaksin's arrest issued so that interpol will act, track him down and arrest him.

yes please

[FangFerang]

Three amazing events in one short article.

1) What is Thaksin doing chiming in now? Talking about audacity – claiming this is not a remote control party and then unilatreally making the decisions for them?

2) They said Wednesday that General P was a non-involved mediator, and now they reveal he 'suggested' three solutions – claiming impartiality and then suggesting everyone do what fascist Suthep demands?.

3) The Jutaporn conviction on defamation was the most crazy, not because I like Jutaporn, but because the 'defamatory accusations' he made against Abhisit are yet to be settled in a court case against Abhisit that has never been processed. It's like saying "Well, you are guilty of false accusations, even though the truth of those accusations is yet to be determined." There is no valid logic that can make sense of that decision, no matter who you like.

All sides are lying through their teeth and hoping no one notices.

[smedly]

The level of critical thinking of members on this site is appalling. The Nation. A source? Followed by 3 pages of comments. <deleted>. This is just like women's gossip magazines that use the words - insiders, pals, onlookers, fellow diners, etc. etc. to basically back up any story they care to make up. The old saying ' you can't see the woods for trees' is appropriate.

there is an exit button top right hand corner.....bye

[gabruce]

Thaksin - the man who in 2011 said he had no interest in politics, was packing it in, and wanted to concentrate on his " golf game " - has been the driving force of the Pheu Thai administration from the get go - whether it was through skype or through frequent and press-covered exoduses of cabinet ministers to see him abroad. His complete and utter involvement surprised no one, and his complete and utter involvement surprises no one now. He has promised to get out of politics more often than people care to count anymore. Nobody believes him. Absolutely no one. Thaksin's blanket amnesty bill is what brought this country to the most profound political crisis it's seen in years. And after all that, he still thinks it's a great idea ? Is he that blinded by ambition that he cannot see that his grand idea started this ? ( Yes ). He can drag his own party down with him - that's his business. But he should leave the country alone. They're fed up with him. And to him they can thank for this mess.

Well, he has little choice except to stay in politics. If he doesn't take care of Thailand, who will?