webfact Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 HEALTHDrinking from plastic bottles left in cars not dangerousBANGKOK: -- Drinking water from plastic bottles that have grown hot when being left in cars is safe, according to the Department of Medical Sciences, Ministry of Public Health.The announcement was made on Monday by Dr Aphichai Mongkol, Director General of the Department of Medical Science.Emails, now dismissed as hoaxes, have been doing the rounds for a few years warning about the socalled dangers of plastic bottles, containers and films. The emails generally claim that reusing water bottles that have grown hot releases cancercausing chemicals called dioxins.A study by Department of Medical Science found no dangers in drinking water from heated plastic bottles.The experiment was conducted on 18 different brands of drinking water available in the market. The health scientists left the plastic bottles in the cars for one day and seven days before studying the cancercausing chemicals. They found no traces of dioxins.-- The Nation 2014-06-03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thai at Heart Posted June 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2014 That's all right then. Just drink that manky old water that's been heated up 10 times in the sun. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Soutpeel Posted June 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2014 seems the Nation has been "ripping" their opening text from the British cancer organization... exact same sentence... http://www.cancerresearchuk.org/cancer-info/healthyliving/cancercontroversies/Plasticbottles/ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubbaJohnny Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 It's exercising the franchise that's dangerous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UbonRatch Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Drinking water from plastic bottles is safe probably includes 'whilst driving along the tollways at 120Km/h', too here!.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ChrisY1 Posted June 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2014 ????.....I must be missing something...... I know the news is a bit ordinary lately......but <deleted> is this?? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loles Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 OK, OK. The most important problem of TH is solved already. I can sleep well tonight. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Artisi Posted June 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2014 seems the Nation has been "ripping" their opening text from the British cancer organization... exact same sentence... http://www.cancerresearchuk.org/cancer-info/healthyliving/cancercontroversies/Plasticbottles/ Well at least they might get the spelling and grammar correct for a change. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Payboy Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 seems the Nation has been "ripping" their opening text from the British cancer organization... exact same sentence... http://www.cancerresearchuk.org/cancer-info/healthyliving/cancercontroversies/Plasticbottles/ Nice catch ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ragzilb Posted June 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2014 (edited) When you do water testing, you have to test specificly, for each trace element you are looking for and there are over 300 different elements which are bad for you in water from a plastic bottle. You cant just put a water bottle in a car for a month or more and then take it out an say now lets test it for chemicals. Not possible. If the pH-Value are 6.5 or 7 its safe to drink no chemicals are in the water. If the pH-Value on water is lower or higher dont drink it since heavy metals are water soluable. If it is ass low as 3.5 in pH there is Aluminiom or Cadmium in it and that is pure poison. a Good rule is dont lets water get over 70 degrees C in a plastic bottle, since that is also when some chemicals get released into the water. But its your life. I know I am not drinking water left in a hot car, for many days. Cheers Edited June 3, 2014 by Ragzilb 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Soutpeel Posted June 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2014 When you do water testing, you have to test specificly, for each trace element you are looking for and there are over 300 different elements which are bad for you in water from a plastic bottle. You cant just put a water bottle in a car for a month or more and then take it out an say now lets test it for chemicals. Not possible. If the pH-Value are 6.5 or 7 its safe to drink no chemicals are in the water. If the pH-Value on water is lower or higher dont drink it since heavy metals are water soluable. If it is ass low as 3.5 in pH there is Aluminiom or Cadmium in it and that is pure poison. a Good rule is dont lets water get over 70 degrees C in a plastic bottle, since that is also when some chemicals get released into the water. But its your life. I know I am not drinking water left in a hot car, for many days. Cheers I wondered when the tin foil hatter's were going to turn up on this thread... 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 That's all right then. Just drink that manky old water that's been heated up 10 times in the sun. Just make sure there's a toilet handy as there may be an urgent need and don't forget the paperwork. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Crushdepth Posted June 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2014 (edited) That's all right then. Just drink that manky old water that's been heated up 10 times in the sun. Leaving manky water in plastic bottles in direct sun for a few days is a reasonable way to make it safe for drinking (UV knocks off the bugs). It's used in places where safe drinking water is not readily available. OK, maybe not in your car. Edited June 3, 2014 by Crushdepth 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crushdepth Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 When you do water testing, you have to test specificly, for each trace element you are looking for and there are over 300 different elements which are bad for you in water from a plastic bottle. You cant just put a water bottle in a car for a month or more and then take it out an say now lets test it for chemicals. Not possible. If the pH-Value are 6.5 or 7 its safe to drink no chemicals are in the water. If the pH-Value on water is lower or higher dont drink it since heavy metals are water soluable. If it is ass low as 3.5 in pH there is Aluminiom or Cadmium in it and that is pure poison. a Good rule is dont lets water get over 70 degrees C in a plastic bottle, since that is also when some chemicals get released into the water. But its your life. I know I am not drinking water left in a hot car, for many days. Cheers I wondered when the tin foil hatter's were going to turn up on this thread... I drink BANGKOK TAPWATER and I'm still alive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 When you do water testing, you have to test specificly, for each trace element you are looking for and there are over 300 different elements which are bad for you in water from a plastic bottle. You cant just put a water bottle in a car for a month or more and then take it out an say now lets test it for chemicals. Not possible. If the pH-Value are 6.5 or 7 its safe to drink no chemicals are in the water. If the pH-Value on water is lower or higher dont drink it since heavy metals are water soluable. If it is ass low as 3.5 in pH there is Aluminiom or Cadmium in it and that is pure poison. a Good rule is dont lets water get over 70 degrees C in a plastic bottle, since that is also when some chemicals get released into the water. But its your life. I know I am not drinking water left in a hot car, for many days. Cheers I wondered when the tin foil hatter's were going to turn up on this thread... I drink BANGKOK TAPWATER and I'm still alive. Too bad you can't read your autopsy report 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WhizBang Posted June 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2014 When you do water testing, you have to test specificly, for each trace element you are looking for and there are over 300 different elements which are bad for you in water from a plastic bottle. You cant just put a water bottle in a car for a month or more and then take it out an say now lets test it for chemicals. Not possible. If the pH-Value are 6.5 or 7 its safe to drink no chemicals are in the water. If the pH-Value on water is lower or higher dont drink it since heavy metals are water soluable. If it is ass low as 3.5 in pH there is Aluminiom or Cadmium in it and that is pure poison. a Good rule is dont lets water get over 70 degrees C in a plastic bottle, since that is also when some chemicals get released into the water. But its your life. I know I am not drinking water left in a hot car, for many days. Cheers Actually there are methodologies that allow you to test for, identify, and quantitate, unspecified chemicals in water. I am an analytical chemist and own and operate an environmental testing laboratory. There are no metals (or at least there shouldn't be) in plastic. Most of the bottles are low density polyethylene. Quite safe. The pH of the water should be around 7, if it is significantly off that value, it did not happen in the bottle, and the entire production run that filled that production lot is suspect and should be recalled. As for "dont lets water get over 70 degrees C in a plastic bottle, since that is also when some chemicals get released into the water", well it is very dependent on the chemical not the temperature. It will depend on the solubility of the particular chemical in question. Temperature simply increases the solubility. There is no 70 degree actuation point. Water that got hot after bottling is just that... water that got hot. Nothing more. No need for fear mongering. Ever boiled water, to let it cool down before use? 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 When you do water testing, you have to test specificly, for each trace element you are looking for and there are over 300 different elements which are bad for you in water from a plastic bottle. You cant just put a water bottle in a car for a month or more and then take it out an say now lets test it for chemicals. Not possible. If the pH-Value are 6.5 or 7 its safe to drink no chemicals are in the water. If the pH-Value on water is lower or higher dont drink it since heavy metals are water soluable. If it is ass low as 3.5 in pH there is Aluminiom or Cadmium in it and that is pure poison. a Good rule is dont lets water get over 70 degrees C in a plastic bottle, since that is also when some chemicals get released into the water. But its your life. I know I am not drinking water left in a hot car, for many days. Cheers I wondered when the tin foil hatter's were going to turn up on this thread... I drink BANGKOK TAPWATER and I'm still alive. Too bad you can't read your autopsy report but I am sure you have seen your mental health report ?...or at least discussed it with your health professional 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABloke Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 When you do water testing, you have to test specificly, for each trace element you are looking for and there are over 300 different elements which are bad for you in water from a plastic bottle. You cant just put a water bottle in a car for a month or more and then take it out an say now lets test it for chemicals. Not possible. If the pH-Value are 6.5 or 7 its safe to drink no chemicals are in the water. If the pH-Value on water is lower or higher dont drink it since heavy metals are water soluable. If it is ass low as 3.5 in pH there is Aluminiom or Cadmium in it and that is pure poison. a Good rule is dont lets water get over 70 degrees C in a plastic bottle, since that is also when some chemicals get released into the water. But its your life. I know I am not drinking water left in a hot car, for many days. Cheers Those silly Thai scientists...probably just drank the water and if they didn't get the runs declared the water carcinogen free. I'll forward your post to the Director General so that he can teach them how to do their jobs Sent from my GT-S7270 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGS1244 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 When you do water testing, you have to test specificly, for each trace element you are looking for and there are over 300 different elements which are bad for you in water from a plastic bottle. You cant just put a water bottle in a car for a month or more and then take it out an say now lets test it for chemicals. Not possible. If the pH-Value are 6.5 or 7 its safe to drink no chemicals are in the water. If the pH-Value on water is lower or higher dont drink it since heavy metals are water soluable. If it is ass low as 3.5 in pH there is Aluminiom or Cadmium in it and that is pure poison. a Good rule is dont lets water get over 70 degrees C in a plastic bottle, since that is also when some chemicals get released into the water. But its your life. I know I am not drinking water left in a hot car, for many days. Cheers OK so now we all walk around carrying a PH meter, get real, also there are virtually no trace metals in plastic bottles. As a chemical pathologist I tested many a plastic bottle and did not find any problems. If it became 3.5 or lower then you have real problems as it would be acidic probably stronger than vinegar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldie09 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I believe the very flimsy water bottles, the ones that relax when the gas is released and that are around now are dangerous as they collapse when picked up. Could be a very simple cause of an accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Boon Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 NO, its not safe ... infrared heat releases the plasticizing agents (that make the plastic soft) into the water and is toxic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMarlow Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Actually there are methodologies that allow you to test for, identify, and quantitate, unspecified chemicals in water. Is a methodolody the same as a method? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l3fty Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I see a lot of experts on this subject and no sources cited. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoonman Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Drinking water from plastic bottles is safe probably includes 'whilst driving along the tollways at 120Km/h', too here!.... Ahh so your one of the slow ones that hold up traffic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon467367354 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I wonder why they are talking about dioxin, it's Bisphenol A that is found in plastic that is carcinogenic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wirat69 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I drink BANGKOK TAPWATER and I'm still alive. Too bad you can't read your autopsy report but I am sure you have seen your mental health report ?...or at least discussed it with your health professional Actually, the water intake to Bangkok reticulation is potable water meeting international drinking water standards. However, the reticulation system is very old and the outlet is contaminated with iron, copper and whatever else is in the pipe system... I use a tapside filter and the result makes damned good coffee.... but I do not think I would try to drink straight out of the sink tap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogy Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 seems the Nation has been "ripping" their opening text from the British cancer organization... exact same sentence... http://www.cancerresearchuk.org/cancer-info/healthyliving/cancercontroversies/Plasticbottles/ and not considering ambient temperatures......LOL..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MESmith Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 What about all the plastic bottles of water for sale in every shop here? Reckon they've been out in the sun before they got to the shop...... And those freebies at petrol stations are usually stored in the sun. Mine go straight in the trash, after emptying on the lawn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belg Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 hahaha this is over the top so lets invite some of those academics that claim this... it has been proven that those plastics can leech into the water or food ... thainess, no need for a degree, if you bought one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greer Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 When you do water testing, you have to test specificly, for each trace element you are looking for and there are over 300 different elements which are bad for you in water from a plastic bottle. You cant just put a water bottle in a car for a month or more and then take it out an say now lets test it for chemicals. Not possible. If the pH-Value are 6.5 or 7 its safe to drink no chemicals are in the water. If the pH-Value on water is lower or higher dont drink it since heavy metals are water soluable. If it is ass low as 3.5 in pH there is Aluminiom or Cadmium in it and that is pure poison. a Good rule is dont lets water get over 70 degrees C in a plastic bottle, since that is also when some chemicals get released into the water. But its your life. I know I am not drinking water left in a hot car, for many days. Cheers Not true at all. Studies have looked into these claims and found there is nothing leaches out of the plastic bottle when left in the sun in the car. "You cant just put a water bottle in a car for a month or more and then take it out an say now lets test it for chemicals. Not possible." What rubbish - what difference does it make where the water has been - that's the reason you are testing it - and the reason tests don't show anything is because it is not there. Where did all the Aluminium and Cadmium come from? If the water had a pH of 3.5 after just sitting in the sun, there is something MUCH more going on, and it's got nothing to do with being in the sun - please study chemistry before making claims like this and spreading this pseudo-science. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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