in 7 month iam 50. Marriage sour. Visa advice please

[Mentors]

My marriage is going downhill. My extensions based on marriage runs out in July. I get 50 in 7 month.

Im not shure if i should do a extensions based on marriage again on Juli or i better leave Thailand for a multi visa.

in 7 month im 50 years and i think about doing then a retirement appl.

Any advice/idea

[iancnx]

Suck up to the missus.... Be the perfect man, the perfect husband. Get your extension based on marriage for another year. Deep breath. You then have 9 months to get your retirement funds in place, and 9 months to think clearly. Good luck

[Mentors]

yes, thanks ian cnx. My head is running already on a high speed level. Will try a deep breath.

[NanLaew]

The path of least resistance is to do one more marriage extension, work out a mutually agreeable separation and then convert the marriage extension to retirement end of next year. However, the spouses participation is required for the marriage extension and the OP hasn't said exactly how sour things have gone.

[Dibbler]

If you have a child from the marriage and the child is Thai, and a birth certificate with your name on it to prove you are the father, you can get an "O" visa based on your dependent. Then no need to have the wife's consent for your visa if you separate.

[glcdc]

Run. Cut yourself off from misery immediately and enjoy your life. If the only reason you're married is for a visa then seems a pretty sad existence and you must ask yourself about what it is you really want in life. Please dont cry because i'm being upfront but seriously please think about what you're asking - get away from her and take care of yourself unless younstill need your mommy to dress you then i'd say stick it out boy.

[Cent]

Pack your bags and move out. Don't tell her where you are going. File for a divorce after you turn fifty and have your retirement visa in hand. Even though you have moved out you are still legally married (you do have a copy of your marriage papers, yes?). If you have the money, fly back to your home country before your O M visa runs out, and use your marriage papers to get a 1 year O visa marriage with the nearest Thai consulate general or embassy, and then return to where ever you are living in the LOS, unbeknownst to your wife. You're only talking about 7 months here until you are 50. After you turn 50 go get your marriage visa changed to a retiree visa. Simple and legal. You are merely seperated, and that not even legally, and not divorced until you go through the divorce process.

If you are certain it is over do what is best for yourself, and for any children you might possibly have from the marriage.

Edited June 6, 2014 by Cent

[Gandtee]

What happens if when having a visa based on marriage the wife snuffs it?

[Mario2008]

What happens if when having a visa based on marriage the wife snuffs it?

If on an actual visa, nothing happens. You would just not get a new visa.

If on an extension of stay, you will need to find a new reason to stay in Thailand. Technically it means your permission to stay ends the day the marriage ends (death or divorce), but in the case of death immigration doesn't expect you to leave the country right away. There are no official rules for, but often they allow you to stay till the end of the permission to stay.

[Mario2008]

1 off topic post and reply to it removed.

[BWPattaya]

Simple answer. Next month renew ypur marriage extension. That will last until next July. Get a divorce. Next July apply for an extension based on retirement.

[belg]

I tought a visa based on your child is only good for 90 days ? or am i wrong? than you have to leave ?

Edited June 6, 2014 by belg

[cardinalblue]

I agree with the poster said it's a sad existence to be married for the green card I mean marriage visa...

BFD...take off and set up shop elsewhere either in Thailand or travel. Get a tourist visa which gives you 6 months to get you to age 50 if need be...

Best to start retirement visa process in your home country anyway...

CB

[DavidMavec]

Run now. Just get multiple tourist visas until you're eligible for a retirement visa.

[Jimbolai]

Run Forest, Run.

[Jimbolai]

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The path of least resistance is to do one more marriage extension, work out a mutually agreeable separation and then convert the marriage extension to retirement end of next year. However, the spouses participation is required for the marriage extension and the OP hasn't said exactly how sour things have gone.

Run now and sue for divorce. It is not going to get better ever. Marriage extension is one more ball on the chain. Go home, enough time to get divorced. Claim she abandoned you and come back retired and fresh. No brainer.

There is no such thing as a mutually agreeable separation. Talk to a paralegal at home, you may not even need a lawyer. No brainer. Oooops sorry I am not a lawyer never been on Broadway and I am not giving legal adv. just common sense.

[davidmann]

go back to your own country think your self lucky to get out of thailand alive

[Sheryl]

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The path of least resistance is to do one more marriage extension, work out a mutually agreeable separation and then convert the marriage extension to retirement end of next year. However, the spouses participation is required for the marriage extension and the OP hasn't said exactly how sour things have gone.

Run now and sue for divorce. It is not going to get better ever. Marriage extension is one more ball on the chain. Go home, enough time to get divorced. Claim she abandoned you and come back retired and fresh. No brainer.

There is no such thing as a mutually agreeable separation. Talk to a paralegal at home, you may not even need a lawyer. No brainer. Oooops sorry I am not a lawyer never been on Broadway and I am not giving legal adv. just common sense.

You do not need to "sue" to get divorced in Thailand. As long as both parties agree, it is a simple visit to the Ampur to arrange.

Whether or not you want/need a divorce, only you can decide.

Likewise only you know how feasible it is for you to remain married for another 7 months.

[smotherb]

I agree with the poster said it's a sad existence to be married for the green card I mean marriage visa...

BFD...take off and set up shop elsewhere either in Thailand or travel. Get a tourist visa which gives you 6 months to get you to age 50 if need be...

Best to start retirement visa process in your home country anyway...

CB

While I agree there is no need to continue a bad situation or kow-tow to a bitch, you don't need to be in your home country to get the non-imm O and retirement extension--get a tourist visa now, or wait in Cambodia where the visa is easier, and do the O and retirement extension in 7 months time.

[mrfaroukh]

It is easier and cheaper if you just run away from your so called marriage.

[Benmart]

yes, thanks ian cnx. My head is running already on a high speed level. Will try a deep breath.

Having been down a similar situation, all I can suggest is one day at a time. When I was going through rough times, the conversations about my impending divorce would not stop running in my head.

I couldn't sleep and opted for professional help to be able to get some rest.

Good luck to you. This To Shall Pass.

[Benmart]

It is easier and cheaper if you just run away from your so called marriage.

I too used to run away or do a "Geographical" as they are sometimes called. What I found, is that the resentments, memories and assorted baggage wasn't left behind after I had departed the scene.

I now deal with life on life's terms and learn from past mistakes. I no longer run...not even for a Visa.

Good luck to the OP.

[wilgoster]

Sorry, no advice, just best wishes. Good luck.

[Briggsy]

Dude, have you been reading Thaivisa too much or what!

Sorting out the basis for the yearly extension is the least of your worries. You have got your priorities totally out of whack. Reading posts on here all day you might end up thinking that life's biggest challenge is how to get permission to stay in Thailand. How wrong you would be!

[CharlesHH]

I recommend divorce and your departure.

It would help to know your nationality and hers, where the marriage was obtained, and if you would really consider living in Thailand (I hope not for your sake).

I hope not much property is involved and both can sign the divorce immediately.

If your relationship is this far along, time to face real facts, yes?

I hear no love of Thailand living so maybe best to just go.

[sirchai]

My marriage is going downhill. My extensions based on marriage runs out in July. I get 50 in 7 month.
Im not shure if i should do a extensions based on marriage again on Juli or i better leave Thailand for a multi visa.
in 7 month im 50 years and i think about doing then a retirement appl.

Any advice/idea

1.) Were you a part of IT, that IT WENT "DOWNHILL?"

2.) Buy a fishermen's wife.-Please see photo. Doesn't eat, doesn't speak, doesn't annoy you, doesn't want money, doesn't want maak maak........

Edited June 6, 2014 by sirchai

[cbluck58]

don't sweat it - leave the miserable marriage and get on with your life - maximum overstay fine is 20kTHB even if you overstay 10 years or more so why worry.....

[RedQualia]

Start attending classes at a TEFL school. One of those schools that will provide you with a one year visa. They gave me a non-imm O when I did that 12 years ago. The school was finished after 2-3 months, then I had the rest of the year to look for employment (90 day visa runs required). Several such schools exist, in Bangkok, Pattaya, Chiang Mai, and surely many other cities. Decide where's best for you at least in part, based on the need to exit every 90 days. And too, with the idea of possibly repairing the marriage, I'd hope. Some time apart might help in that regard.

There may be a list of such schools on thaivisa somewhere, their cost, rating, duration, visa info, etc. There are also several listed on ajarn.com. Never hurts to acquire new skills or brush up on old ones.

Choke dee...

Edited June 6, 2014 by RedQualia

[Mentors]

Thank you for all replies.

In my marriage there is no property involved, no kids.

After 4 years living in the very country side (South) most of the time with nearly daily powercuts (sometimes for 30 hours) and poor infrastructure im not able to live there anymore.

If have started to get a depression about this.

And the time of love is gone anyway.

My wife seems to understand that i can not stay in the sticks for longer anymore than for example 2-3 weeks in line.

For the last couple of weeks i have travelled/stayed in Bkk, Pattaya, Chiang Mai.

Now i have to go back to do the 90 Days show face report and after that next month my marriage visa ext. Is running out.

In January i get 50.

So, this is the situation i ask about what to do.

it really gives me headache.

Edited June 6, 2014 by Mentors

[glegolo]

It is easier and cheaper if you just run away from your so called marriage.

I too used to run away or do a "Geographical" as they are sometimes called. What I found, is that the resentments, memories and assorted baggage wasn't left behind after I had departed the scene.

I now deal with life on life's terms and learn from past mistakes. I no longer run...not even for a Visa.

Good luck to the OP.

But may be run because of the knife than!!

Glegolo