Kaymcdonnell Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Having lived in Thailand for a reasonable amount of time, i cannot help by being embarrassed by how many times i have been fooled. Only last week i went on a day trip to The sea gypsy village for lunch in Phang Nga. So at the pier whilst arranging the trip with the long tail, I paid the 1,000 but for the trip to the restaurant for lunch and trip back. We only left the pier at 2pm and expected to return at 5pm. I was clear to point out to the long tail operator that i needed 3 hours minimum for lunch. Well i got stung again. The person who took me there insisted we leave after 1 hour or be stranded. When will i ever get the upper edge on how it works here…. even the thai' s do not know…. i will never get the upper edge.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NamKangMan Posted June 7, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2014 The "upper edge" is simply not holidaying or living here, and many are now realising that and going elsewhere. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AnotherOneAmerican Posted June 7, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2014 fun first, pay later! Never a problem then. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaymcdonnell Posted June 7, 2014 Author Share Posted June 7, 2014 fun first, pay later! Never a problem then. Pay first - fun later - expect to be disappointed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaymcdonnell Posted June 7, 2014 Author Share Posted June 7, 2014 fun first, pay later! Never a problem then. Pay first - fun later - expect to be disappointed! Cannot get on the boat if you do not pay - but you have the right idea like me most of the time but every now and again they catch you out 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseFrank Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 No doubt the Thais know that if you leave shore at 2 you can't have lunch for 3 hours and be back at shore at 5. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaymcdonnell Posted June 7, 2014 Author Share Posted June 7, 2014 No doubt the Thais know that if you leave shore at 2 you can't have lunch for 3 hours and be back at shore at 5. Regardless of how long it takes to have lunch and what ever else i want do (shopping - talking) i had the deal to stay there for 3 hours. Back at shore takes 15 mins - so what? I was played and i am not too embarrassed to admit it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDM0712 Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 I think if you engage in tourist type activities you will pay more than we as expat residents feel you should. I remember back in the day when I was a tourist with pockets rammed with drakma, lire, baht, whatever they had in Thailand. Who knew, who cared, it had lots of zeros and didn't have a photo of the Queen, I used to hire a speed boat to take me and mine over to Phi Phi and then back again because I hated the public boats. It was 5000 baht each way. Now that I've been here a week or two would I pay that, no chance. I'd like to go back in time and give myself a slap. SDM PS I'm sure you all know this but if you go down the the Aquarium, Zoo and Imany other places and show your Thai Driving Licence you will pay the Thai price. S 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamKangMan Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 No doubt the Thais know that if you leave shore at 2 you can't have lunch for 3 hours and be back at shore at 5. Regardless of how long it takes to have lunch and what ever else i want do (shopping - talking) i had the deal to stay there for 3 hours. Back at shore takes 15 mins - so what? I was played and i am not too embarrassed to admit it. "I was played and i am not too embarrassed to admit it." - yes, no shame in admitting it. Now look at it from a first time to Thailand/Phuket tourist's perspective - do you think they would be happy? Now look at this particular interaction, and spread the same attitude across their whole holiday, not to mention dealing with tuk-tuk drivers - get the sorry picture? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shot Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 (edited) @ OP. If you are on medication, please increase the dose. If you are not on medication.....get some....quick Edited June 7, 2014 by Shot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDM0712 Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 (edited) Please go to bedI am actually in bed, my back went earlier on and is killing me. Can't seem to get comfortable though.SDM PS I saw the pre-edited version of your post. You should have stuck with it! Edited June 7, 2014 by SDM0712 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindside Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 No doubt the Thais know that if you leave shore at 2 you can't have lunch for 3 hours and be back at shore at 5. Regardless of how long it takes to have lunch and what ever else i want do (shopping - talking) i had the deal to stay there for 3 hours. Back at shore takes 15 mins - so what? I was played and i am not too embarrassed to admit it. "I was played and i am not too embarrassed to admit it." - yes, no shame in admitting it. Now look at it from a first time to Thailand/Phuket tourist's perspective - do you think they would be happy? Now look at this particular interaction, and spread the same attitude across their whole holiday, not to mention dealing with tuk-tuk drivers - get the sorry picture? The thing is, when you are a tourist you go to the travel desk at the hotel / "travel agency" or whatever. They have their boat guy / tour guy etc., you pay more, but the guy generally does whats required or agreed. Many of us expats say screw doing "tourist" things, because we are not willing to pay the extra or have the inclination to negotiate. When some of us do want to do it then we go it alone and get shafted. So we are pretty much damned if we do... damned if we don't. If you have a Thai spouse / family this can usually be circumvented. However some of us are occasionally going to end up in this situation. Myself included. (crap seafood joint on Phuket, most recently) At least that is how I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surangw Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 seems like some thais get extra face points in buddha heaven by screwing over farangs, and get to brag about it to their drinking buddies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post iSabai Posted June 7, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2014 (edited) OP has Troll written all over his (her) last two threads. First one had Timeshare Troll written all over that one! Edited June 7, 2014 by iSabai 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bpuumike Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 No doubt the Thais know that if you leave shore at 2 you can't have lunch for 3 hours and be back at shore at 5.Regardless of how long it takes to have lunch and what ever else i want do (shopping - talking) i had the deal to stay there for 3 hours. Back at shore takes 15 mins - so what? I was played and i am not too embarrassed to admit it. As already posted, never pay in advance. In a previous life, I would never do that for a night's 'companion'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valentine Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 OP has Troll written all over his (her) last two threads. First one had Timeshare Troll written all over that one! Troll & ulterior motives. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chainsaw Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 OP has Troll written all over his (her) last two threads. First one had Timeshare Troll written all over that one! Yep, I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrjlh Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 Forgot about the "low tide" did you? When he meant stranded... he meant STRANDED because you would be walking back in MUD. I laugh at how so many people I see coming back from a long tail ride are walking a half mile thru the muddy water at low tide. And sometimes watching them try to pull the long tail back to shore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansgruber Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 No doubt the Thais know that if you leave shore at 2 you can't have lunch for 3 hours and be back at shore at 5.Regardless of how long it takes to have lunch and what ever else i want do (shopping - talking) i had the deal to stay there for 3 hours. Back at shore takes 15 mins - so what? I was played and i am not too embarrassed to admit it. "I was played and i am not too embarrassed to admit it." - yes, no shame in admitting it. Now look at it from a first time to Thailand/Phuket tourist's perspective - do you think they would be happy? Now look at this particular interaction, and spread the same attitude across their whole holiday, not to mention dealing with tuk-tuk drivers - get the sorry picture? The thing is, when you are a tourist you go to the travel desk at the hotel / "travel agency" or whatever. They have their boat guy / tour guy etc., you pay more, but the guy generally does whats required or agreed.Many of us expats say screw doing "tourist" things, because we are not willing to pay the extra or have the inclination to negotiate. When some of us do want to do it then we go it alone and get shafted. So we are pretty much damned if we do... damned if we don't. If you have a Thai spouse / family this can usually be circumvented. However some of us are occasionally going to end up in this situation. Myself included. (crap seafood joint on Phuket, most recently) At least that is how I see it. If you're an expatriate with a Thai drivers licence you pay Thai price. I can list many attractions that have this policy in Phuket. Phuket zoo. Phuket bird park. Botanical gardens. Water park. Go karts. Siam Narimit. Phuket Fantasy. Even some elephant trek places give you a discount if you prove you live here. Give it try. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hkt83100 Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 The best would have been to not go there. The food is lousy... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valentine Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 The thing is, when you are a tourist you go to the travel desk at the hotel / "travel agency" or whatever. They have their boat guy / tour guy etc., you pay more, but the guy generally does whats required or agreed.Many of us expats say screw doing "tourist" things, because we are not willing to pay the extra or have the inclination to negotiate. When some of us do want to do it then we go it alone and get shafted. So we are pretty much damned if we do... damned if we don't. If you have a Thai spouse / family this can usually be circumvented. However some of us are occasionally going to end up in this situation. Myself included. (crap seafood joint on Phuket, most recently) At least that is how I see it. If you're an expatriate with a Thai drivers licence you pay Thai price.I can list many attractions that have this policy in Phuket. Phuket zoo. Phuket bird park. Botanical gardens. Water park. Go karts. Siam Narimit. Phuket Fantasy. Even some elephant trek places give you a discount if you prove you live here. Give it try. What are the Thai prices at Siam Narimit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDM0712 Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 What are the Thai prices at Siam Narimit? Normally written in Thai script ( & numerals) at the pay desk at these places. Just get a Thai to telephone them and ask the price for Thais. SDM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindside Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 If you're an expatriate with a Thai drivers licence you pay Thai price.I can list many attractions that have this policy in Phuket. Phuket zoo. Phuket bird park. Botanical gardens. Water park. Go karts. Siam Narimit. Phuket Fantasy. Even some elephant trek places give you a discount if you prove you live here. Give it try. Absolutely, and I do make use of my DL for those places when I go / have gone. However, the boat guy who takes you some place new that you read about and want to try - he does not give a toss about your DL. You walk into a restaurant that a Thai friend recommends and you pay double what he did (seafood - prices per kg / seasonal for example). That is what we are meaning. Sometimes when you step out and try something new, you will get ripped - occupational hazard I guess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarenBravo Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 Most Thais in business have the morals of a starving shark. Don't take it too personally, Thais rip-off other Thais whenever the opportunity arises. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwayssunny Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 What pees me off is being told a watch repair will take 1 month, 3 months later and it is still not back, is someone walking from central to Bangkok with it? sorry had to get this in as it is peeing me off!! Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirtless Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 Once money changes hands all conditions seem to change, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suradit69 Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 (edited) i cannot help by being embarrassed by how many times i have been fooled. Not to feel too bad. Some people go through life finding even the simplest tasks overwhelming. Once money changes hands all conditions seem to change, It may seem that way but for some special people, no matter where they are, some things remain remarkably the same. Edited June 8, 2014 by Suradit69 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Roota Posted June 9, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2014 The "upper edge" is simply not holidaying or living here, and many are now realising that and going elsewhere. Let us know how that works out for them. The scams I've seen in Cambodia, Vietnam, Philippines, Malaysia, Indonesia etc. make the Thai hustlers look like good-hearted amateurs. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Flint Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Expect the unexpected when in any country 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggusoil Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 No doubt the Thais know that if you leave shore at 2 you can't have lunch for 3 hours and be back at shore at 5. Thai pointing? I've been stung like this three times. In Australia. Its 'never' a good thing to do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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