Russian mafia boss arrested in Thailand

[csabo]

Well, he'd only been here ......... unnoticed and untraced for 5 years ....... doing visa runs on a false passport .......... must have been a very good forgery

[csabo]

Visa runs are required on retirement visas?

[Jay Sata]

I think you are all being a bit unfair on the Russians.

Two of the biggest culprits currently before the courts are British and American and both have falsely claimed to be lawyers and ran legal companies exploiting their fellow expats.

Thailand is a country where you are taken at face value and no one checks real documentation.

Indeed some of the major political players have dodgy qualifications from dubious universities.

Thaksin and his sister have qualifications from Kentucky University which sadly never improved their basic English ability.

Frankly I trust Thai qualifications as much as I trust a fake press card from a shop on the Khao San. Rd.

Edited June 25, 2014 by Jay Sata

[JSixpack]

That sleazy Sattahip! What a cesspit.

[pitrevie]

another loser russian ''putin on the dog''..................if russia didnt have xxx porn star woman woman and gas for sale, they wouldnt have a freind in the world..

Funny how when a scumbag Russian is arrested, for some people all Russians become objects of contempt. Yet we forget it was Russia/USSR that defeated napoleon and nazi germany to free Europe from two megalomaniac dictators.

Yes but Stalin was quite happy to sign a treaty with one of those dictators in the belief that the capatalists west would tear itself apart without any help from him. Shame he didn't read Mein Kampf.

What you mean the same dictator that chamberline signed a pact with for "peace in our time" or Joseph Kennedy supported?

And is that the same Stalin who wanted to sign a pact with Britain and France, a desire the British took so seriously they sent their diplomats on a long slow boat journey to Russia? That Stalin? Of course there were always planes for hitler.

You were the one claiming that it was Russia that kept Europe free when it was Stalin's original intention to see Europe go under to the Nazi dictator and only when Hitler turned on him did he stop his day dreaming and realize that Hitler was a threat to the Soviet Union as great as to that of Europe. Far from keeping Europe free, half of Europe was given the Communist jackboot to replace the Nazi jackboot.

Edited June 26, 2014 by pitrevie

[jmccarty]

I rarely venture out of a very small comfort zone, but bumped into a seemingly good humoured couple of fellows in a pub not far from my house last weekend. The place was very slow with a little background music and a few older retired types having a quiet drink. These 2 young guns showed up and announced they were from Latvia, guess my buddy asked though no idea why. My mate then asked "What do you do here" The guy that spoke said "Forex!". Then proceeded to expose himself to the old lady behind the bar. Surprised, I commented we don't usualy see anything that small around here, not that I had been there before. He laughed, sat back and drank his beer a bit more. Then out it came again, standing on his toes to ensure all could see! I know these pubs on the darkside can be on the wild side. But this seemed so out of place with the quiet crowd gathered. I could not help but comment that I had never seen such a small example of #en^s before. Then he got angry and said "that is not funny!!" I thought I was being set up to answer that it was very funny! But with his frown apparent, said, "I apologize if I have offended you". He and his quiet but tall side-kick left in a huff, mumbling on the way out the door. My mate and I finished our beer and got on our way. One of the other 2 old blokes got up and left, the other said, though a little guy, he and his mate would have backed us if it went that way! Odd for such an innoccuous afternoon. CIS citizens are not known to have a sense of humour I suppose!

A few minutes later. outside, accross the soi, those two Latvians were in a crowd of Thais, holding a chicken...looked like setting up a chicken fight. Maybe a cock fight was his intention all along in the pub? No doubt a bright future for both of those guys above the radar for everyone to see!

Anyway, not good behaviour in anycase and good reason not to mix with a volatile group like that.

[neverdie]

more foreign scum located in Thailand, how many more are hiding under the rocks?

I guess that depends on your definition of 'Scum'. Mines fairly broad, as you might imagine. I'd say 10's of thousands, possible 100's of thousands, still hiding here under the so called rocks.

If foreign scumbags could fly, Thailand would be a central airport.

[zydeco]

Bye bye Boris

This all dee valt of mooose and squirrel.

[siampolee]

With any luck Alexan Matusov will engage as his defence lawyer the same lawyer who defended Mikhail Khodorkovsky i.e.Robert Amsterdam .

Then we will be sure that another criminal will indeed be serving time.

[ikke]

matusov.jpg

Alexander Matusov. Now, first of all does that sound like a Russian name?

http://www.timescolonist.com/russian-mafia-boss-arrested-while-living-in-thailand-on-retirement-visa-1.1156832

http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_06_25/Thai-police-arrest-Russian-crime-lord-5317/

More excrement on its way out.

In OP it says fake American passport, in one of the links you provided it says fake Korean passport

Is it hard to tell which passport belongs to which country?

"Armenian", not American.

[Bluespunk]

Yes but Stalin was quite happy to sign a treaty with one of those dictators in the belief that the capatalists west would tear itself apart without any help from him. Shame he didn't read Mein Kampf.

What you mean the same dictator that chamberline signed a pact with for "peace in our time" or Joseph Kennedy supported?

And is that the same Stalin who wanted to sign a pact with Britain and France, a desire the British took so seriously they sent their diplomats on a long slow boat journey to Russia? That Stalin? Of course there were always planes for hitler.

You were the one claiming that it was Russia that kept Europe free when it was Stalin's original intention to see Europe go under to the Nazi dictator and only when Hitler turned on him did he stop his day dreaming and realize that Hitler was a threat to the Soviet Union as great as to that of Europe. Far from keeping Europe free, half of Europe was given the Communist jackboot to replace the Nazi jackboot.

No, I'm the one saying that Russians saved Europe twice from megalomaniac dictators.

The USSR wanted buffer states between itself and the west due to it's experiences during WW1, the civil war and the Russo-Polish wars in the early 1920s when Russia was invaded and occupied by external forces. The last thing he and the USSR military wanted was a Germany occupying the whole of Europe.

The USSR tried to set up a pact with France and the UK to keep Germany at bay. This was treated in a dismissive manner by the UK who sent low level officials by boat [ a long slow journey] who had no power to conclude a treaty. Stalin recognised this for what it was, delaying tactics while Western Europe did what it could to appease hitler and avoid giving him cause to claim they were plotting against him by signing a treaty with the USSR. He did to the west what they were willing to do to him. I don't justify it but don't make out stalin was the only one looking out for his own position at the expense of others. Do I admire stalin, no I don't. He was a vicious, paranoid, murderous, sadistic thug.

What happened at the end of WW2 was a travesty but hardly surprising given the history of the past 31 years when Russia/USSR suffered four invasions and massive loss of life due to invasions from or backed by the west.

However all that is moot.

My original point was that to denigrate all Russians because of the actions of the more contemptible types is wrong and we should all remember the huge sacrifices ordinary citizens from Russia/USSR made in the past to defeat those who would have made Europe their empire.

Edited June 26, 2014 by Bluespunk

[pitrevie]

Yes but Stalin was quite happy to sign a treaty with one of those dictators in the belief that the capatalists west would tear itself apart without any help from him. Shame he didn't read Mein Kampf.

What you mean the same dictator that chamberline signed a pact with for "peace in our time" or Joseph Kennedy supported?

And is that the same Stalin who wanted to sign a pact with Britain and France, a desire the British took so seriously they sent their diplomats on a long slow boat journey to Russia? That Stalin? Of course there were always planes for hitler.

You were the one claiming that it was Russia that kept Europe free when it was Stalin's original intention to see Europe go under to the Nazi dictator and only when Hitler turned on him did he stop his day dreaming and realize that Hitler was a threat to the Soviet Union as great as to that of Europe. Far from keeping Europe free, half of Europe was given the Communist jackboot to replace the Nazi jackboot.

No, I'm the one saying that Russians saved Europe twice from megalomaniac dictators.

The USSR wanted buffer states between itself and the west due to it's experiences during WW1, the civil war and the Russo-Polish wars in the early 1920s when Russia was invaded and occupied by external forces. The last thing he and the USSR military wanted was a Germany occupying the whole of Europe.

The USSR tried to set up a pact with France and the UK to keep Germany at bay. This was treated in a dismissive manner by the UK who sent low level officials by boat [ a long slow journey] who had no power to conclude a treaty. Stalin recognised this for what it was, delaying tactics while Western Europe did what it could to appease hitler and avoid giving him cause to claim they were plotting against him by signing a treaty with the USSR. He did to the west what they were willing to do to him. I don't justify it but don't make out stalin was the only one looking out for his own position at the expense of others. Do I admire stalin, no I don't. He was a vicious, paranoid, murderous, sadistic thug.

What happened at the end of WW2 was a travesty but hardly surprising given the history of the past 31 years when Russia/USSR suffered four invasions and massive loss of life due to invasions from or backed by the west.

However all that is moot.

My original point was that to denigrate all Russians because of the actions of the more contemptible types is wrong and we should all remember the huge sacrifices ordinary citizens from Russia/USSR made in the past to defeat those who would have made Europe their empire.

I think maybe you should tell the occupants of the Soviet satellite states that they were saved from a megalomaniac dictator. However I agree with you about the sacrifice of the soviet people many of whom were also liquidated by Stalin but also gave their lives in a great struggle against Nazism.

[me313]

Too many other bosses vying for power in Thailand---

[Bluespunk]

Yes but Stalin was quite happy to sign a treaty with one of those dictators in the belief that the capatalists west would tear itself apart without any help from him. Shame he didn't read Mein Kampf.

What you mean the same dictator that chamberline signed a pact with for "peace in our time" or Joseph Kennedy supported?

And is that the same Stalin who wanted to sign a pact with Britain and France, a desire the British took so seriously they sent their diplomats on a long slow boat journey to Russia? That Stalin? Of course there were always planes for hitler.

You were the one claiming that it was Russia that kept Europe free when it was Stalin's original intention to see Europe go under to the Nazi dictator and only when Hitler turned on him did he stop his day dreaming and realize that Hitler was a threat to the Soviet Union as great as to that of Europe. Far from keeping Europe free, half of Europe was given the Communist jackboot to replace the Nazi jackboot.

No, I'm the one saying that Russians saved Europe twice from megalomaniac dictators.

The USSR wanted buffer states between itself and the west due to it's experiences during WW1, the civil war and the Russo-Polish wars in the early 1920s when Russia was invaded and occupied by external forces. The last thing he and the USSR military wanted was a Germany occupying the whole of Europe.

The USSR tried to set up a pact with France and the UK to keep Germany at bay. This was treated in a dismissive manner by the UK who sent low level officials by boat [ a long slow journey] who had no power to conclude a treaty. Stalin recognised this for what it was, delaying tactics while Western Europe did what it could to appease hitler and avoid giving him cause to claim they were plotting against him by signing a treaty with the USSR. He did to the west what they were willing to do to him. I don't justify it but don't make out stalin was the only one looking out for his own position at the expense of others. Do I admire stalin, no I don't. He was a vicious, paranoid, murderous, sadistic thug.

What happened at the end of WW2 was a travesty but hardly surprising given the history of the past 31 years when Russia/USSR suffered four invasions and massive loss of life due to invasions from or backed by the west.

However all that is moot.

My original point was that to denigrate all Russians because of the actions of the more contemptible types is wrong and we should all remember the huge sacrifices ordinary citizens from Russia/USSR made in the past to defeat those who would have made Europe their empire.

I think maybe you should tell the occupants of the Soviet satellite states that they were saved from a megalomaniac dictator. However I agree with you about the sacrifice of the soviet people many of whom were also liquidated by Stalin but also gave their lives in a great struggle against Nazism.

Which was my point all along.

[chooka]

more foreign scum located in Thailand, how many more are hiding under the rocks?

I guess that depends on your definition of 'Scum'. Mines fairly broad, as you might imagine. I'd say 10's of thousands, possible 100's of thousands, still hiding here under the so called rocks.

If foreign scumbags could fly, Thailand would be a central airport.

and I bow to you SIR Neverdie, you have no argument from me.

[neverdie]

more foreign scum located in Thailand, how many more are hiding under the rocks?

I guess that depends on your definition of 'Scum'. Mines fairly broad, as you might imagine. I'd say 10's of thousands, possible 100's of thousands, still hiding here under the so called rocks.

If foreign scumbags could fly, Thailand would be a central airport.

and I bow to you SIR Neverdie, you have no argument from me.

No, you and I were never going to disagree on this subject 55555

[ultimate weapon]

Get him kicked out and let the Russian guys deal with him. Maybe he will be one of the first people to say "please let me stay in a Thai jail, Don't send me back"

So it's safe to say russian jail cells are tougher than thai ones but since he isn't any ordinary criminal but wanted for killings and murders he probably won't even be sent to any ordinary russian cell but one specifically made for him that includes physical tortures.

[BlueSkyCowboy]

Get him kicked out and let the Russian guys deal with him. Maybe he will be one of the first people to say "please let me stay in a Thai jail, Don't send me back"

No. The first who said that was probably Viktor Bout.

Oh no. Victor is in a 4 star like prison in the US

[The Deerhunter]

matusov.jpg

Alexander Matusov. Now, first of all does that sound like a Russian name?

http://www.timescolonist.com/russian-mafia-boss-arrested-while-living-in-thailand-on-retirement-visa-1.1156832

http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_06_25/Thai-police-arrest-Russian-crime-lord-5317/

More excrement on its way out.

In OP it says fake American passport, in one of the links you provided it says fake Korean passport

Is it hard to tell which passport belongs to which country?

Read more carefully. OP says Fake Armenian, not Fake American.