Thai Facebook users suggest death penalty in cases of rape and murder

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Death penalty suggested in cases of rape and murder

BANGKOK, 8 July 2014 (NNT) - Facebook users have set up an online group proposing the death penalty against those responsible for committing rape and murder. The page now boasts at least 6,000 members online.

The group has received wide support after a rape-murder case was reported on July 6th, in which a 13 year-old girl was raped by a 22 year-old man while she was on the train from Surat Thani to Bangkok.

Authorities found her body in a patch of grass in an area located near Pranburi Forest Park. The suspect confessed that he was high on drugs and caught her during the moment she was alone from her parents. He then raped her twice before throwing her off the train, killing her instantly.

Needless to say, the case has sparked serious outrage in the society and among the online community. Members of the group are set to stage a rally at Park Paragon on July 12 at 11:00 am.

By advocating the death penalty, the group hopes to prevent such a tragic incident from repeating itself in future. The admin of the group also posted a slogan saying: “Even one voice can make a difference in changing the law.”

Members of the group are also set to wear black grieving over the loss of the young girl and have invited others to join their movement as well.

-- NNT 2014-07-08

[mrtoad]

Really can't argue with it. I'm sick of hearing how these monsters deserve "human rights" etc, etc when they take away the lives of young children. Incarceration of this type of scum is a burden on society.

[bkkjames]

Not sure if it would make a difference but what about showing what you get if you do this (might be graphic but...) instead of the old re-enactment and finger pointing - not just for these types of crimes either which don't appear to be much of a deterant.

[neverdie]

Too many grubs in society, dispose of people that commit such evil vile crimes.....WAY TO GO !

[Costas2008]

I am against death penalty.

Nobody has the right to take another humans life.

But, in cases like that I would be happy to see this scum going to prison for the rest of his life.

Especially to a Thai prison.

[gmac]

Really can't argue with it. I'm sick of hearing how these monsters deserve "human rights" etc, etc when they take away the lives of young children. Incarceration of this type of scum is a burden on society.

Whilst I'm all in favour of the death penalty in instances like this where there is no doubt about the identity of the perpetrator problems arise when it is left to the justice system to determine the guilt or otherwise of defendants. The system of law throughout the world nowadays seems to be a game between lawyers who appear only interested in making themselves rich and 'winning' their cases with little or no attention paid to actually achieving true justice.

[Morch]

Is having the death penalty about deterrent and prevention or about public outrage and need for revenge?

Not as if a likely perpetrator goes "oh well, lifetime imprisonment, yeah...that's worth it". Doubt if they consider

the difference between potential punishments.

Another point, mistakes and biases are inherent in any legal system. Thailand's legal and law enforcement

reputations are less than stellar, to put it mildly. Not sure that trusting them with such judgements is quite

as reasonable as the wise Facebook users suggest.

[KhunBENQ]

I guess it is actually about enforcing/executing the death penalty.

To my knowledge the death penalty has not been abolished and can still be handed out.

"Only" that there has been no execution for a long time.

But a reasonable number of inmates on death row.

In such a case it is hard to argue against.

[Just1Voice]

Life in a Thai prison with: "Child Rapist & Murderer" tattooed across their forehead and back for all to see.

[oldsailor35]

The least they can bring in should be "Castration" surgery, its quicker.

[oldsailor35]

I am against death penalty.

Nobody has the right to take another humans life.

But, in cases like that I would be happy to see this scum going to prison for the rest of his life.

Especially to a Thai prison.

I agree, but only after Castration !

[Costas2008]

I am against death penalty.

Nobody has the right to take another humans life.

But, in cases like that I would be happy to see this scum going to prison for the rest of his life.

Especially to a Thai prison.

I agree, but only after Castration !

Don't worry, he will loose his appetite for sex, after a week or 2, being in prison.

[Albertosez]

Agree - death penalty is appropriate. The death penalty will eventually deter some people, although there will need to be a few good examples set before some people think twice. It won't deter all of the loonies, but if it deters just 1 person and save just one innocent life then that is worth it my book. Save 1 worthwhile human being as opposed to paying for vile scum to reside in prison at the tax payers expense - why not ? These people contribute nothing positive to society, they are evil and the world will be a much better place without them.

[15Peter20]

Is having the death penalty about deterrent and prevention or about public outrage and need for revenge?

Not as if a likely perpetrator goes "oh well, lifetime imprisonment, yeah...that's worth it". Doubt if they consider

the difference between potential punishments.

Another point, mistakes and biases are inherent in any legal system. Thailand's legal and law enforcement

reputations are less than stellar, to put it mildly. Not sure that trusting them with such judgements is quite

as reasonable as the wise Facebook users suggest.

Exactly. Whilst open to human error or worse, a process which results in state sanctioned killing must always be avoided if at all possible. People can die whilst not being guilty. I know of at least one case where 3 guys were put to death in Thailand for a deed which available evidence suggests they did not commit.

[JeremyBowskill]

Is having the death penalty about deterrent and prevention or about public outrage and need for revenge?

Not as if a likely perpetrator goes "oh well, lifetime imprisonment, yeah...that's worth it". Doubt if they consider

the difference between potential punishments.

Another point, mistakes and biases are inherent in any legal system. Thailand's legal and law enforcement

reputations are less than stellar, to put it mildly. Not sure that trusting them with such judgements is quite

as reasonable as the wise Facebook users suggest.

No its about putting down a rabid dog!

[Cloggie]

Why not let them choose between:

1) lifetime imprisonment in Thai prison

2) dead penalty

Edited July 8, 2014 by Cloggie

[tracklayer]

Never execution. There are far too many revenge accusations. Mandatory Life Sentences yes. No remission. You always need room for fresh evidence. Liars cannot keep secrets. Then a new law mandatory life for fake accusations resulting in a conviction. Your whole life in prison is probably a worse penalty than a swift end.

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[tangcoral]

Life in a Thai prison with: "Child Rapist & Murderer" tattooed across their forehead and back for all to see.

Sounds like death penalty to me, save the ink, use the needle.

[Confuscious]

I guess it is actually about enforcing/executing the death penalty.

To my knowledge the death penalty has not been abolished and can still be handed out.

"Only" that there has been no execution for a long time.

But a reasonable number of inmates on death row.

In such a case it is hard to argue against.

Everybody his own opinion.

And I respect it.

But I am totally against the death penalty for all crimes.

Millions of good people die every year because they have no donor in time to save them.

Lots of good people can have a better life if they would find a donor in time.

The modern transplantation techniques can replace all body parts which are not or badly functioning on some people (eyes, ears, limbs, etc.)

Why kill these people when they can serve very well for other, more noble purposes?

Every person has 2 kidneys.

Many people die every year because a kidney donor is not found in time.

Let's take 1 kidney of these offenders and give it to someone who is dying.

Let's take 1 eye of these offenders and give it to someone who is blind..

And if it comes out that the offender was innocent, he can be released and continue the rest of his life if fairly good condition.

Would you prefer to kill such a person if your child would die because there is no donor to replace his ailing heart/kidney/etc.?

I would prefer to let him/her be sentenced to donate his organs for the community and save several other people.

[Morch]

Is having the death penalty about deterrent and prevention or about public outrage and need for revenge?

Not as if a likely perpetrator goes "oh well, lifetime imprisonment, yeah...that's worth it". Doubt if they consider

the difference between potential punishments.

Another point, mistakes and biases are inherent in any legal system. Thailand's legal and law enforcement

reputations are less than stellar, to put it mildly. Not sure that trusting them with such judgements is quite

as reasonable as the wise Facebook users suggest.

No its about putting down a rabid dog!

And if authorities get the wrong dog?

[AGareth2]

Lex talionis

[Luk Mhee]

“RAPE” should be a capital offence and should carry the death sentence or castration whether committed by adults or by the adolescence in schools or universities on females or males. “RAPE” scars the victim for life. An adolescence rapist should be castrated to prevent a recurrence of this unforgivable crime, an adult rapist, if found guilty, deserves no mercy.

Unfortunately due to the inability of our past administration to curb violence and to implement the law on the masses we live amongst a sick and undisciplined society with little or no morals. However with our new administration one can clearly see a change in the system, just look at abrupt change in the attitudes of our public personnel, as well as law enforcement, the speed at which problems are sorted out, and perpetrators are apprehended is almost unbelievable.

[jacky54]

What do they think should happen when those executed turn out to have been innocent?

[kaobang]

What do they think should happen when those executed turn out to have been innocent?

in this case the members of the court will be executed,of course

[kaobang]

What do they think should happen when those executed turn out to have been innocent?

in this case the members of the court will be executed,of course

but i found amazing that a police chief wishes someone to be tortured to death in thailand,and nobody apparently gives a shit

Edited July 8, 2014 by kaobang

[kuiburi]

Give rapist and pedo's to the family of the victem and let them decide what to do .

[wolf5370]

Such cases are very emotive. It is easy to be angry and call for the most inhumane of recourses (otherwise known as revenge). The simple fact is that the death penalty dos not work as a deterrent (USA has the highest per capita prison population in the world - and the death sentence) - so its use is only either revenge or economics (putting the price of incarceration against the life of a perpetrator). It is sad when someone spends ten years in jail only to be cleared on new evidence years later - cannot do that when they are dead.

People that murder in cold blood and rape, especially with respect to kids, cannot be trusted on the streets. Prison is also not a great place for them. A secure mental hospital with chemical castration and violence suppression, is a better place for such people - just as secure as a class A prison (even as a super-max) is possible. Life time sentence, but able to lead some kind of life, without the danger to society.

[JeremyBowskill]

Is having the death penalty about deterrent and prevention or about public outrage and need for revenge?

Not as if a likely perpetrator goes "oh well, lifetime imprisonment, yeah...that's worth it". Doubt if they consider

the difference between potential punishments.

Another point, mistakes and biases are inherent in any legal system. Thailand's legal and law enforcement

reputations are less than stellar, to put it mildly. Not sure that trusting them with such judgements is quite

as reasonable as the wise Facebook users suggest.

No its about putting down a rabid dog!

And if authorities get the wrong dog?

same applies for life imprisonment, no?

Personally, anything over a decade in a Thai prison and the death penalty would seem like a result.

Edited July 8, 2014 by JeremyBowskill

[kurnell]

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[Albertosez]

When there is scientific evidence to prove that the person charged with the crime " is guilty " of the crime ( as with DNA evidence in rape and murder cases ) then the death penalty is appropriate IMO. Let's flip the coin ; " why keep them alive? "