Thai editorial: Road ahead for NCPO is set to get bumpier

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EDITORIAL
Road ahead for the junta is set to get bumpier
The Nation

With the initial phase of its work done, the hard business of reform and rearranging the electoral system is set to begin

BANGKOK: -- If the "honeymoon" is not over already, it must be at the stage when the National Council for Peace and Order and the Thai people are taking their trip back home - to biting realities.

The declaration of an interim charter, the prosecution of ex-prime minister Yingluck Shinawatra and the imminent formation of an interim Cabinet, Parliament and a constitution-drafting committee are seriously testing the awkward relationship that sceptics have always doubted would last very long.

The interim charter is not very pleasant, but those who "understand the motives" have not stuck their necks out to say this yet. It gives the NCPO a lot of powers in administering the country even after the formation of an interim Cabinet, and in drafting a permanent constitution. Whether the NCPO was doing what it had to do does not matter much now.

At the end of a honeymoon, complaints normally take precedence over sweet words.

What happens to Yingluck will be closely watched. Accusing her of turning a blind eye to corruption is one thing; implicating her in graft and thus making her face imprisonment is another. The Supreme Court's political division will have a final say on her fate, but the bulk of compliments or criticism will fall on the NCPO when the final verdict comes. Whatever happens will be tricky, and a lot will depend on it, not least the chance to ease national strife and achieve real reform.

Talking about reform, critics have already sharpened their knives because the interim charter seems to give the NCPO a big say on selecting people who matter. Nominations will be scrutinised and reform proposals will be put under a microscope. Resetting Thailand and bringing back good political ethics and national harmony are a tough goal that virtually all elected politicians fail to reach.

Can coup-makers do it? Many critics are not optimistic.

The NCPO's heavy-handed handling of the media has prompted outcries from professional umbrella groups. The junta has alternated between getting tough, testing the water and pulling back. What is certain is that it has not won many friends. This is an era where freedom of information and expression is cherished, so every hint or threat of a clampdown will always spark an uproar.

The next few weeks are very critical as far as the NCPO is concerned. Criticism has been expected, but what the junta is experiencing now will be nothing compared to what it will face if the reform process is perceived to be prejudiced or lukewarm. The uneasy relationship with a big portion of the public, specifically those who "understand" the coup, could unravel at the first signs of insincerity.

NCPO leader General Prayuth Chan-ocha's "Give us a chance" song was beautiful on first hearing it, but now he has to walk the talk or the song will fast lose its magic. He has navigated the West's storms of protest, but a lot harder task is preventing the public's patience from reaching its limits. After all, what the song asks for - patience - is politics' rarest commodity.

Prayuth needs to be sincere, tolerant, open-minded and effective. Some may suggest that good advisers are needed, too. But if he can be all four, the rest should take care of itself. Based on his roadmap, it seems time is still on his side. But if we consider the honeymoon to be over or nearly over, the clock could start ticking any time.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/opinion/Road-ahead-for-the-junta-is-set-to-get-bumpier-30239585.html

[thenation]2014-07-28[/thenation]

[Gsxrnz]

Tick......Tock.......

 

It sounds like The Nation is saying Prayuth still has a chance to decide (by his future actions) whether he is ultimately judged to be Captain Hook or Peter Pan.

[ramrod711]

What happens to Yingluck will be closely watched. Accusing her of turning a blind eye to corruption is one thing; implicating her in graft and thus making her face imprisonment is another.

 

Justice cannot be served in a system where what people think take precedence over guilt or innocence. The courts must be able to render verdicts without fear.

[WitawatWatawit]

The big question is, what action will the junta take - and how far will it go - if the people start to express their disgruntlement through more vocal channels and physical demonstrations. The junta is living in cuckoo land if it thinks it can continue to manipulate people's mood. Today it's dance around the Maypole singing tralalala, but as said, hard decisions are waiting - indict YL on criminal charges and the great mass of hardcore red shirt supporters are going to stir again (aided, inevitably by Mr Macroencaphaly). Fail to do so if the evidence warrants it, and everything the junta has done so far, every bit of goodwill it has built up, will vanish like deckchars on Bangtao beach. I think the military have reached a new point in their history - in the past. when they've taken over, the people have generally acquiesced and behaved. I have a feeling this time that the people are no longer going to jump when the military says jump. That'sc because this coup has been preceeded by bouts of violence on a scale never seen before. In other words, more people are ready to face down their opponents on the streets - maybe.

[noitom]

Big question this and uncertainty that. Thailand is stumbling and bumbling, floundering along. The military dictator will become the pm, the NLA is composed of 100 military officers, and establishment bureaucrats. What should we expect? The Thai drama will keep you on the edge of your seat.

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What happens to Yingluck will be closely watched. Accusing her of turning a blind eye to corruption is one thing; implicating her in graft and thus making her face imprisonment is another.

 

Justice cannot be served in a system where what people think take precedence over guilt or innocence. The courts must be able to render verdicts without fear.

 

Agree.

 

And IMHO we should expect better than this floppy comment from the Nation. A newspaper that wants to be taken seriously should be advocating and using a theme of total respect for the law / complete and appropriate application of the law no matter who the suspect is.

 

Nobody would claim that reform is easy. So far the generals have done a damn good job, and no doubt they know full well that there's still some quite difficult steps ahead and there will be bumps.

 

Given their track record so far I'm very willing to give them the support they need to get through the bumps.

 

Quote: "The next few weeks are very critical as far as the NCPO is concerned. Criticism has been expected, but what the junta is experiencing now will be nothing compared to what it will face if the reform process is perceived to be prejudiced or lukewarm. The uneasy relationship with a big portion of the public, specifically those who "understand" the coup, could unravel at the first signs of insincerity."
 

Perhaps the Nation could explain why they are starting to say pessimistic things and why they are even mentioning anything about the generals being insincere. In my understanding there is no valid reason whatever to talk like this.  So what is the Nation trying to do, plant seeds of discontent?

 

I say again I expect better than this from the Nation.

 

Go generals go!

 

 

 

[IamNoone88]

Equality in prosecution must prevail. If Yingluck faces charges, so must Suthep and others for the laws they have broken. The Elite and their representatives must also face the music, including their ilk. The law is for everyone and should be applied to everyone. This is the true litmus test.

[SOTIRIOS]

....what is your point.....what are you trying to sell...corruption over accountability......???

[chotthee]

What happens to Yingluck will be closely watched. Accusing her of turning a blind eye to corruption is one thing; implicating her in graft and thus making her face imprisonment is another.

 

Justice cannot be served in a system where what people think take precedence over guilt or innocence. The courts must be able to render verdicts without fear.

 

What is the point of a court verdict, it it can be overturn by junta at will.

Might just as well go ask NCPO on how all verdict should be.

Save time for everyone.

 

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/745890-former-national-police-chief-pol-general-patcharawat-wongsuwan-reinstated/

[WitawatWatawit]

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"Perhaps the Nation could explain why they are starting to say pessimistic things and why they are even mentioning anything about the generals being insincere."

Part of a newspaper commentator's job is to read the prevailing winds and expound upon what they see. You're mistaking pessimism for a logical assessment of the situation. You honestly don't think the honeymoon can go on forever, do you?

[fab4]

What happens to Yingluck will be closely watched. Accusing her of turning a blind eye to corruption is one thing; implicating her in graft and thus making her face imprisonment is another.

 

Justice cannot be served in a system where what people think take precedence over guilt or innocence. The courts must be able to render verdicts without fear.

 

 "The courts must be able to render verdicts without fear"

 

 

You, and most likely, they, have forgotten the most important part of that frequently used homily,

 

without fear, favour or prejudice.

[rickirs]

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Tick......Tock.......

 

It sounds like The Nation is saying Prayuth still has a chance to decide (by his future actions) whether he is ultimately judged to be Captain Hook or Peter Pan.

 

Both being fantasy characters - how appropriate.

[rickirs]

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What happens to Yingluck will be closely watched. Accusing her of turning a blind eye to corruption is one thing; implicating her in graft and thus making her face imprisonment is another.

 

Justice cannot be served in a system where what people think take precedence over guilt or innocence. The courts must be able to render verdicts without fear.

 

 

Agree.

 

And IMHO we should expect better than this floppy comment from the Nation. A newspaper that wants to be taken seriously should be advocating and using a theme of total respect for the law / complete and appropriate application of the law no matter who the suspect is.

 

Nobody would claim that reform is easy. So far the generals have done a damn good job, and no doubt they know full well that there's still some quite difficult steps ahead and there will be bumps.

 

Given their track record so far I'm very willing to give them the support they need to get through the bumps.

 

Quote: "The next few weeks are very critical as far as the NCPO is concerned. Criticism has been expected, but what the junta is experiencing now will be nothing compared to what it will face if the reform process is perceived to be prejudiced or lukewarm. The uneasy relationship with a big portion of the public, specifically those who "understand" the coup, could unravel at the first signs of insincerity."
 

Perhaps the Nation could explain why they are starting to say pessimistic things and why they are even mentioning anything about the generals being insincere. In my understanding there is no valid reason whatever to talk like this.  So what is the Nation trying to do, plant seeds of discontent?

 

I say again I expect better than this from the Nation.

 

Go generals go!

 

 

 

 

"A newspaper that wants to be taken seriously should be advocating and using a theme of total respect for the law / complete and appropriate application of the law no matter who the suspect is."

 

You place a low threashhold of trust and belief in a legal system created by a military Junta that overthrew an elected government operating in accordance to the Constitution and the Rule of Laws established by the 2006 Junta, Parliament House and Senate. A Junta that now grants itself amensty from its violation of the 2007 Constitution and enjoins to establish absolute power over the Interim Government and rule by edits that are not subject to review or approval. The Nation offers a candid and appropriate viewpoint.

 

I would shout as well your statement "Go generals go," but perhaps in a different vain.

 

 

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What happens to Yingluck will be closely watched. Accusing her of turning a blind eye to corruption is one thing; implicating her in graft and thus making her face imprisonment is another.

 

Justice cannot be served in a system where what people think take precedence over guilt or innocence. The courts must be able to render verdicts without fear.

 

 

Agree.

 

And IMHO we should expect better than this floppy comment from the Nation. A newspaper that wants to be taken seriously should be advocating and using a theme of total respect for the law / complete and appropriate application of the law no matter who the suspect is.

 

Nobody would claim that reform is easy. So far the generals have done a damn good job, and no doubt they know full well that there's still some quite difficult steps ahead and there will be bumps.

 

Given their track record so far I'm very willing to give them the support they need to get through the bumps.

 

Quote: "The next few weeks are very critical as far as the NCPO is concerned. Criticism has been expected, but what the junta is experiencing now will be nothing compared to what it will face if the reform process is perceived to be prejudiced or lukewarm. The uneasy relationship with a big portion of the public, specifically those who "understand" the coup, could unravel at the first signs of insincerity."
 

Perhaps the Nation could explain why they are starting to say pessimistic things and why they are even mentioning anything about the generals being insincere. In my understanding there is no valid reason whatever to talk like this.  So what is the Nation trying to do, plant seeds of discontent?

 

I say again I expect better than this from the Nation.

 

Go generals go!

 

 

 

 

"A newspaper that wants to be taken seriously should be advocating and using a theme of total respect for the law / complete and appropriate application of the law no matter who the suspect is."

 

You place a low threashhold of trust and belief in a legal system created by a military Junta that overthrew an elected government operating in accordance to the Constitution and the Rule of Laws established by the 2006 Junta, Parliament House and Senate. A Junta that now grants itself amensty from its violation of the 2007 Constitution and enjoins to establish absolute power over the Interim Government and rule by edits that are not subject to review or approval. The Nation offers a candid and appropriate viewpoint.

 

I would shout as well your statement "Go generals go," but perhaps in a different vain.

 

 

 

And you have attempted to take advantage of my post.

 

My post was clearly not meant in any way as a comment on the junta.

 

It was clearly meant as an overriding and timeless comment about respect for the law.

[Hawk]

What happens to Yingluck will be closely watched. Accusing her of turning a blind eye to corruption is one thing; implicating her in graft and thus making her face imprisonment is another.
 
Justice cannot be served in a system where what people think take precedence over guilt or innocence. The courts must be able to render verdicts without fear.

 
 "The courts must be able to render verdicts without fear"
 
 
You, and most likely, they, have forgotten the most important part of that frequently used homily,
 
without fear, favour or prejudice.

In this country there are no free and fair trials. Guilty unless one can prove otherwise, and proving otherwise is normally very expensive.

[adamtwilley]

The NCPO have overlooked some major flaws in the censorship of the media.

We live in a highly advanced technology era and can use this to fight censorship which has been and still is a very effective and efficient tool at protecting our right of free speech.

Using services such as Tor or advanced VPN's we can not only hide our identity but also the information contained, reducing fear of prosecution. Even government's are not going to bother with heavily encrypted unknown source traffic.

This method breaks the chinese censorship which is by far the most extreme in the world. Giving people the forum to speak in and the safety to say what needs to be said.

I do not believe the media should make governments happy nor the implementation of local laws which hide or distort the events in the news, particularly at a time like this when people need the truth.

Social media is the best tool for public applying pressure to a Government, it is full world public view, so can and will be monitored by the international community. If the chances of internal resolution die and human rights are being breached then international support would come wether they like it or not.

I belive many governments misunderstand todays technology, and just how censorship is not really possible anymore.

IMHO media censorship has normally been to hide the wrong doings of a military force in power and for me history speaks loudest. What do the NCPO have to hide?

[Hawk]

In the army soldiers are taught to obey, they work as a team but a country is not a military unit and never will be. Army regimes in the past, in various countries around the world have tried to oppress and pacify their people but have never succeeded. Every dictatorship has always ended in failure, so will this latest coup be any different?
I not being a pessimist but a realist basing my outlook not only on history but the general inability of the Thai people to work together for a united country.
Thailand is still feudal and therefore the army's task of trying to make everyone into good, law abiding citizens is absolutely impossible. Their successes to date are both minor and shortlived as you all will see. Thailand is like a school playground, mayhem and chaos, and no way the army can keep control for long. Too many factions, too many greedy people, too many ass*oles.
Think what you can do for your country has long gone, now its only what your country can do for you.

[ginjag]

 

What happens to Yingluck will be closely watched. Accusing her of turning a blind eye to corruption is one thing; implicating her in graft and thus making her face imprisonment is another.

 

Justice cannot be served in a system where what people think take precedence over guilt or innocence. The courts must be able to render verdicts without fear.

 

 "The courts must be able to render verdicts without fear"

 

 

You, and most likely, they, have forgotten the most important part of that frequently used homily,

 

without fear, favour or prejudice.

 

 

Usual OTT re censorship -propaganda as per normal ---in 2 months bash for the sake of it Fab.

[ginjag]

In the army soldiers are taught to obey, they work as a team but a country is not a military unit and never will be. Army regimes in the past, in various countries around the world have tried to oppress and pacify their people but have never succeeded. Every dictatorship has always ended in failure, so will this latest coup be any different?
I not being a pessimist but a realist basing my outlook not only on history but the general inability of the Thai people to work together for a united country.
Thailand is still feudal and therefore the army's task of trying to make everyone into good, law abiding citizens is absolutely impossible. Their successes to date are both minor and shortlived as you all will see. Thailand is like a school playground, mayhem and chaos, and no way the army can keep control for long. Too many factions, too many greedy people, too many ass*oles.
Think what you can do for your country has long gone, now its only what your country can do for you.

 

Blame the army--history of juntas--anything will do.  Some dictatorships do end in failure, Thaksins was what we call a sweet dictatorship.  3 years of an elected government who governed for themselves and put the country up the Swanee.

 

Agree with a lot of what you say, but the only hope now is to back the army and let us see the outcome---nothing to lose--that was lost in the last 3 years (and maybe the 7 years before it)

[Orac]

In the army soldiers are taught to obey, they work as a team but a country is not a military unit and never will be. Army regimes in the past, in various countries around the world have tried to oppress and pacify their people but have never succeeded. Every dictatorship has always ended in failure, so will this latest coup be any different?
I not being a pessimist but a realist basing my outlook not only on history but the general inability of the Thai people to work together for a united country.
Thailand is still feudal and therefore the army's task of trying to make everyone into good, law abiding citizens is absolutely impossible. Their successes to date are both minor and shortlived as you all will see. Thailand is like a school playground, mayhem and chaos, and no way the army can keep control for long. Too many factions, too many greedy people, too many ass*oles.
Think what you can do for your country has long gone, now its only what your country can do for you.

Having seen some pictures of the methods used by the army to teach soldiers to obey on the internet i dread to think what i may come across in a park one day if they try the same with the general population.


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[Dah fahrang]

 

 

What happens to Yingluck will be closely watched. Accusing her of turning a blind eye to corruption is one thing; implicating her in graft and thus making her face imprisonment is another.
 
Justice cannot be served in a system where what people think take precedence over guilt or innocence. The courts must be able to render verdicts without fear.

 
 "The courts must be able to render verdicts without fear"
 
 
You, and most likely, they, have forgotten the most important part of that frequently used homily,
 
without fear, favour or prejudice.

In this country there are no free and fair trials. Guilty unless one can prove otherwise, and proving otherwise is normally very expensive.

 

Thought it was largely the other way round. 

Innocent, irrespective of the crime, while "backers" stump up, and/or stalling for time means the case never ends up in court for a verdict of any sort to be delivered.

[Hawk]

 

 

What happens to Yingluck will be closely watched. Accusing her of turning a blind eye to corruption is one thing; implicating her in graft and thus making her face imprisonment is another.
 
Justice cannot be served in a system where what people think take precedence over guilt or innocence. The courts must be able to render verdicts without fear.

 
 "The courts must be able to render verdicts without fear"
 
 
You, and most likely, they, have forgotten the most important part of that frequently used homily,
 
without fear, favour or prejudice.

In this country there are no free and fair trials. Guilty unless one can prove otherwise, and proving otherwise is normally very expensive.
 

Thought it was largely the other way round. 
Innocent, irrespective of the crime, while "backers" stump up, and/or stalling for time means the case never ends up in court for a verdict of any sort to be delivered.

No, guilty until payment has been made, then innocent.

[Hawk]

In the army soldiers are taught to obey, they work as a team but a country is not a military unit and never will be. Army regimes in the past, in various countries around the world have tried to oppress and pacify their people but have never succeeded. Every dictatorship has always ended in failure, so will this latest coup be any different?
I not being a pessimist but a realist basing my outlook not only on history but the general inability of the Thai people to work together for a united country.
Thailand is still feudal and therefore the army's task of trying to make everyone into good, law abiding citizens is absolutely impossible. Their successes to date are both minor and shortlived as you all will see. Thailand is like a school playground, mayhem and chaos, and no way the army can keep control for long. Too many factions, too many greedy people, too many ass*oles.
Think what you can do for your country has long gone, now its only what your country can do for you.

 
Blame the army--history of juntas--anything will do.  Some dictatorships do end in failure, Thaksins was what we call a sweet dictatorship.  3 years of an elected government who governed for themselves and put the country up the Swanee.
 
Agree with a lot of what you say, but the only hope now is to back the army and let us see the outcome---nothing to lose--that was lost in the last 3 years (and maybe the 7 years before it)

I cannot recall a single dictatorship that ever succeeded in anything but rather that every dictatorship succeeded only in destroying their own countries.

Thailand is fast running out of time, reminding me of Nero playing the fiddle while Rome burned to the ground. The general is ill equipped and unqualified for the task of running this country, he is a soldier, and soldiers are too rigid, too tunnel visioned, lack imagination and business sense. The army are supposed to serve not control.

[Ricardo]

Equality in prosecution must prevail. If Yingluck faces charges, so must Suthep and others for the laws they have broken. The Elite and their representatives must also face the music, including their ilk. The law is for everyone and should be applied to everyone. This is the true litmus test.

 

I agree that the law needs to be applied to everyone, and am pleased to see the cases arising from 2010 against Suthep & former-PM Abhisit proceeding, and hope you would also agree that the several stalled-cases against former-PM Thaksin should similarly proceed ?

 

Perhaps he might instruct his lawyers/P.R.-people, that he will be willing for them to proceed in court, despite his not actually being there, to hear the charges read out ? In the interests of justice, for which he has claimed to be fighting, and reconciliation, for which many people hope ?

 

Meanwhile one must accept that courts will sometimes produce unpalatable verdicts, or sentences which are perceived as weak, recent suspended-sentences for example. And that it would be good if the courts were to be seen to act without pressure, or attempts to bribe them, and influence their verdicts.

 

 

Looking back to the OP, it seems to me a little soon, to call time on the NCPO's honeymoon. Former-PM Yingluck asked for, and was given, six months to show what she could do. Don't the military deserve a similar period of time ?

[ramrod711]

You place a low threashhold of trust and belief in a legal system created by a military Junta that overthrew an elected government operating in accordance to the Constitution and the Rule of Laws established by the 2006 Junta, Parliament House and Senate

 

You are joking, right? Operating in accordance to the constitution and the rule of law, PTP, please! The constitution, and universal parliamentary rules stipulate that a bill not be amended between readings, it must be resubmitted for first reading. I think amending a bill, sending the opposition home, then illegally having a second reading and passing the bill would count as unconstitutional.

[h90]

Tick......Tock.......

 

It sounds like The Nation is saying Prayuth still has a chance to decide (by his future actions) whether he is ultimately judged to be Captain Hook or Peter Pan.

 

The problem is some believe he is the born again Jesus, while other expect he is the devil from hell.

But he is something between. He won't be able to fix all problems of Thailand, but he'll improve some things. People need to be realistic.

[geodesic]

With regard to Yingluck's impending trial, a blog that I truly enjoy reading just reminded me of an old saying I had long since forgotten since my time in school:

 

As the Roman Stoics used to say: "Fiat iustitia, ruat caelum", or paraphrased in English "Let justice be done, even if it brings the sky crashing down."

 

Nobody can guarantee the future will be better than today. Gen. Prayuth's job is to stoically push forward with reforms no matter what the populous may think, because that is the right thing to do. I believe Prayuth is a genuinely good man with best wishes for his country and he will do the right thing. That is one thing people often forget - unlike politicians, soldiers at least have a sense of duty drilled into them their entire career. That doesn't mean they are selfless, but it does mean they at least accept the premise that there is something bigger and more meaningful than themselves that they are tasked to fight for. It is only when they forget that ther own self is not the same thing as this larger something that they become tyrants. Prayuth has demonstrated through all his actions to date that he has not yet forgotten this.

 

If only someone in Dubai had this same mentality, the country would be a much better place.

 

[JAG]

 

 

 

What happens to Yingluck will be closely watched. Accusing her of turning a blind eye to corruption is one thing; implicating her in graft and thus making her face imprisonment is another.
 
Justice cannot be served in a system where what people think take precedence over guilt or innocence. The courts must be able to render verdicts without fear.

 
 
Agree.
 
And IMHO we should expect better than this floppy comment from the Nation. A newspaper that wants to be taken seriously should be advocating and using a theme of total respect for the law / complete and appropriate application of the law no matter who the suspect is.
 
Nobody would claim that reform is easy. So far the generals have done a damn good job, and no doubt they know full well that there's still some quite difficult steps ahead and there will be bumps.
 
Given their track record so far I'm very willing to give them the support they need to get through the bumps.
 
Quote: "The next few weeks are very critical as far as the NCPO is concerned. Criticism has been expected, but what the junta is experiencing now will be nothing compared to what it will face if the reform process is perceived to be prejudiced or lukewarm. The uneasy relationship with a big portion of the public, specifically those who "understand" the coup, could unravel at the first signs of insincerity."
 
Perhaps the Nation could explain why they are starting to say pessimistic things and why they are even mentioning anything about the generals being insincere. In my understanding there is no valid reason whatever to talk like this.  So what is the Nation trying to do, plant seeds of discontent?
 
I say again I expect better than this from the Nation.
 
Go generals go!
 
 
 

 
"A newspaper that wants to be taken seriously should be advocating and using a theme of total respect for the law / complete and appropriate application of the law no matter who the suspect is."
 
You place a low threashhold of trust and belief in a legal system created by a military Junta that overthrew an elected government operating in accordance to the Constitution and the Rule of Laws established by the 2006 Junta, Parliament House and Senate. A Junta that now grants itself amensty from its violation of the 2007 Constitution and enjoins to establish absolute power over the Interim Government and rule by edits that are not subject to review or approval. The Nation offers a candid and appropriate viewpoint.
 
I would shout as well your statement "Go generals go," but perhaps in a different vain.
 
 

 
And you have attempted to take advantage of my post.
 
My post was clearly not meant in any way as a comment on the junta.
 
It was clearly meant as an overriding and timeless comment about respect for the law.

Then why did it end with a rallying cry for the junta?

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Edited July 28, 2014 by JAG

[ginjag]

 

 

In the army soldiers are taught to obey, they work as a team but a country is not a military unit and never will be. Army regimes in the past, in various countries around the world have tried to oppress and pacify their people but have never succeeded. Every dictatorship has always ended in failure, so will this latest coup be any different?
I not being a pessimist but a realist basing my outlook not only on history but the general inability of the Thai people to work together for a united country.
Thailand is still feudal and therefore the army's task of trying to make everyone into good, law abiding citizens is absolutely impossible. Their successes to date are both minor and shortlived as you all will see. Thailand is like a school playground, mayhem and chaos, and no way the army can keep control for long. Too many factions, too many greedy people, too many ass*oles.
Think what you can do for your country has long gone, now its only what your country can do for you.

 
Blame the army--history of juntas--anything will do.  Some dictatorships do end in failure, Thaksins was what we call a sweet dictatorship.  3 years of an elected government who governed for themselves and put the country up the Swanee.
 
Agree with a lot of what you say, but the only hope now is to back the army and let us see the outcome---nothing to lose--that was lost in the last 3 years (and maybe the 7 years before it)

I cannot recall a single dictatorship that ever succeeded in anything but rather that every dictatorship succeeded only in destroying their own countries.

Thailand is fast running out of time, reminding me of Nero playing the fiddle while Rome burned to the ground. The general is ill equipped and unqualified for the task of running this country, he is a soldier, and soldiers are too rigid, too tunnel visioned, lack imagination and business sense. The army are supposed to serve not control.

 

Quote " fast running out of time"    don't make me laugh, ridiculous.  I would call Thaksins regime more of a dictatorship than the army clean up, in the aftermath of a disgraced government.

 

You talk out of your propaganda, better I put it that way.     He is that good he can do both---serve and control.

PTP served (themselves) and with Yingluck as defense minister  JOKE and you say the army are not qualified.   Yingluck qualified ??  Chalerm qualified ??  PTP cabinet qualified ???      If they were qualified -what happened. ????   (Sutheps fault) ??  talk sense -make sure your ex government were competent before slagging off the army.

[The Deerhunter]

Equality in prosecution must prevail. If Yingluck faces charges, so must Suthep and others for the laws they have broken. The Elite and their representatives must also face the music, including their ilk. The law is for everyone and should be applied to everyone. This is the true litmus test.

BUt, but, but Suthep..........     It never stops