FangFerang Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 "The dogs had in the past attacked other villagers" -- sounds like he has a lot of cash hidden in his house to protect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longstebe Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 This is why they are banned in Australia. No ignorance and not properly screening owners and making them responsible for their actions is why they are banned unfortunately in Australia. Most times in these attacks the dogs arent even pedigree A.P.B.T's they are pit dogs or pig dogs or bulldog x's or mastiff x's or bull terrier x's or any combination thereof. The media just loves saying "pitbull" because it makes good copy. Any dog, treated harshly or trained to attack, may bite a person. Any dog can be turned into a dangerous dog. The owner or handler most often is responsible for making a dog into something dangerous. I am not making any apologies here and any dog that is shown to be human aggressive should be immediately put down but eradicating a whole breed due to the irresponsible actions of the owner doesn't make sense. Any dog? Does that include our little shih tzu.....:-) Sent from my GT-I9505 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time Traveller Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 (edited) "He said that his own dog, a local Thai breed, tried to defend his wife but was not able to because it was chained up." ---- A case of those evil foreign dogs coming to Thailand and creating havoc Edited August 2, 2014 by Time Traveller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starky Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 This is why they are banned in Australia. No ignorance and not properly screening owners and making them responsible for their actions is why they are banned unfortunately in Australia. Most times in these attacks the dogs arent even pedigree A.P.B.T's they are pit dogs or pig dogs or bulldog x's or mastiff x's or bull terrier x's or any combination thereof. The media just loves saying "pitbull" because it makes good copy. Any dog, treated harshly or trained to attack, may bite a person. Any dog can be turned into a dangerous dog. The owner or handler most often is responsible for making a dog into something dangerous. I am not making any apologies here and any dog that is shown to be human aggressive should be immediately put down but eradicating a whole breed due to the irresponsible actions of the owner doesn't make sense. Any dog? Does that include our little shih tzu.....:-) Sent from my GT-I9505 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Hopefully not! I am assuming that you are a responsible owner but a Pomeranian killed a 6 month old baby a few years back, so yes, in some respects every dog has the capacity to do damage. Most of the time you will notice we aren't even talking about the true American Pit Bull Terrier it is a "pitbull" type dog pure media sensationalism. Good luck with your little one 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belg Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 mista policemaaaan will find a way to sweep it under the carpet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 It is not the dogs, it is the owner. The dogs most probably just protected their area. Were never trained. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sungod Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I have a Pitt-bull and a Staffordshire bull terrier, and firstly i hope the lady in question gets well soon as no matter what the bread of dog it would be a traumatic experience. but as stated earlier i blame the Owner not the Dog! any owner of this type of dog must be responsible for their dogs actions and take time to socialize the animals with other people and other dogs, discipline and exercise are key points and i very rarely see Thai people walking there pets or training them correctly. I have a staff, brought him up as a family pet , I run the energy out of him twice a day and he's good as gold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zeegator Posted August 2, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2014 This breed of dog should be eradicated Sent from my GT-I9500 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app A typical knee jerk reaction by someone who has no knowledge of the breed. Of course in this case the dogs should be put down immediately. Anyone that knows anything about A.P.B.T knows that the number one trait that couldn't be tolerated was human aggression any known "man biter" would be culled immediately. The pit bull used to be known as a nanny dog because they were so good around the family and children. They still are if raised and socialised correctly. Unfortunately like the Doberman in years gone past then the Alsatian and Rottweiler, dead headed wanna be tough guys, drug dealers and plastic gangsters took these dogs abused them and made them aggressive and dangerous towards humans. It is the owner who should be brought to answer. Not eradicate a breed of dog for attacking a human. Where does it stop? Should we then eradicate every breed that has attacked a human? Why stop there why not eradicate every animal that has ever attacked a human? Let's just start right at the top of the chain then and start eradicating ourselves because we are not too bad at commiting violence against humans either. My family has bred and raised A.B.P.T's for 3 generations in Australia and Thailand and have never had a problem. I do endorse keeping all dogs in a properly enclosed area and in the case of the larger breeds they probably should be tethered as well when the owner is not present. Stop this mindless sort of action and stop BSL "Should we then eradicate every breed that has attacked a human?" Absolutely, yes, except for specifically needed and professionally trained dogs. "Why stop there why not eradicate every animal that has ever attacked a human?" Because that would be illogical, the issue here is domesticated animals with a propensity to kill if not professionally trained. "I do endorse keeping all dogs in a properly enclosed area and in the case of the larger breeds they probably should be tethered as well when the owner is not present." This rather conflicts with your wholly biased opinion that these dogs are "so good around the family and children...if raised and socialised correctly". 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeegator Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 6???? Problems reading? There were 4 and previous report said lightly injured and owner is a cop who was hospitalized, so dogs were not fed since Wednesday(no mention of which week or month) Previous report also states dogs climbed the fence. Owner should also be charged with animal cruelty The reading problems are yours, but what difference does it make to this case whether there were 4 or 6 dogs? If there were only four dogs would that be a mitigating circumstance? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeegator Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I have a Pitt-bull and a Staffordshire bull terrier, and firstly i hope the lady in question gets well soon as no matter what the bread of dog it would be a traumatic experience. but as stated earlier i blame the Owner not the Dog! any owner of this type of dog must be responsible for their dogs actions and take time to socialize the animals with other people and other dogs, discipline and exercise are key points and i very rarely see Thai people walking there pets or training them correctly. I have a staff, brought him up as a family pet , I run the energy out of him twice a day and he's good as gold This is about Pitbulls and there's a bloody big difference between Staffordshires and Pitbulls. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Kwa Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 This is a trash dog breed. No space for them in the modern world. Eradicate all. End of. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sungod Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I have a Pitt-bull and a Staffordshire bull terrier, and firstly i hope the lady in question gets well soon as no matter what the bread of dog it would be a traumatic experience. but as stated earlier i blame the Owner not the Dog! any owner of this type of dog must be responsible for their dogs actions and take time to socialize the animals with other people and other dogs, discipline and exercise are key points and i very rarely see Thai people walking there pets or training them correctly. I have a staff, brought him up as a family pet , I run the energy out of him twice a day and he's good as gold This is about Pitbulls and there's a bloody big difference between Staffordshires and Pitbulls. Hence my reason for bringing it up, I'm glad you recognise the difference, however many on here would label them the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yann55 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 (edited) 'six pit bulls belonging to Police Senior Sergeant Major Kasem Nuansri of the Klong Waan district police station' .... Someone in that police station has a Major problem.... and I know that most dog lovers hate to hear that but owning this kind of dog does say something about the owner. Edited August 2, 2014 by Yann55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod711 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I was walking my malemute when a pit bull attacked without warning, no bark. It had escaped from it's yard, hit my dog in the rear and knocked it down and got hold of her back. I'm 6'2" 250 lbs, I hit that pit bull with my fists until my hands got sore, was like hitting a plank. When I couldn't dislodge it I backed up and kicked it like kicking a field goal. The dog twisted in the air and landed on it's feet and came back at my dog. Fortunately the owner heard the ruckus and called his dog off. There is no way on earth a little Thai woman had a chance against one let alone four. The difference between pit bulls and poodles is, the poodle would never have got back up after I kicked it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WhamBam Posted August 2, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2014 That poor woman. What a terrifying incident. When you consider what only one of those dogs can do, to be attacked like this is almost beyond words. Forever now, she will be terrified of dogs. I hope she makes a full recovery. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starky Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 This breed of dog should be eradicated Sent from my GT-I9500 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app A typical knee jerk reaction by someone who has no knowledge of the breed. Of course in this case the dogs should be put down immediately. Anyone that knows anything about A.P.B.T knows that the number one trait that couldn't be tolerated was human aggression any known "man biter" would be culled immediately. The pit bull used to be known as a nanny dog because they were so good around the family and children. They still are if raised and socialised correctly. Unfortunately like the Doberman in years gone past then the Alsatian and Rottweiler, dead headed wanna be tough guys, drug dealers and plastic gangsters took these dogs abused them and made them aggressive and dangerous towards humans. It is the owner who should be brought to answer. Not eradicate a breed of dog for attacking a human. Where does it stop? Should we then eradicate every breed that has attacked a human? Why stop there why not eradicate every animal that has ever attacked a human? Let's just start right at the top of the chain then and start eradicating ourselves because we are not too bad at commiting violence against humans either. My family has bred and raised A.B.P.T's for 3 generations in Australia and Thailand and have never had a problem. I do endorse keeping all dogs in a properly enclosed area and in the case of the larger breeds they probably should be tethered as well when the owner is not present. Stop this mindless sort of action and stop BSL "Should we then eradicate every breed that has attacked a human?" Absolutely, yes, except for specifically needed and professionally trained dogs. "Why stop there why not eradicate every animal that has ever attacked a human?" Because that would be illogical, the issue here is domesticated animals with a propensity to kill if not professionally trained. "I do endorse keeping all dogs in a properly enclosed area and in the case of the larger breeds they probably should be tethered as well when the owner is not present." This rather conflicts with your wholly biased opinion that these dogs are "so good around the family and children...if raised and socialised correctly". Ok then then we need to eradicate. The Rottweiler and Rottweiler mix was responsibe for 39 human deaths. The German Shepherd dog and mix were responsible for 17 human deaths. The Husky type dog was responsible for 15 human deaths as was the Malamute responsible for 12 human deaths. The Chow Chow was responsible for 8 deaths while the Doberman was responsible for 9 human deaths. The Saint Bernard was responsible for 7 human deaths and the Great Dane was also responsible for 7 deaths. The Akita killed 4 people, the Bulldog 2, the Mastiff 2, the Boxer 2 and believe it or not the Labrador Retriever was responsible for 1 death while Lab mixes were responsible for 4 deaths. The following dogs were responsible for killing one human each during these twenty years: The Bullmastiff, Cheasapeake Bay Retriever, West Highland Terrier, Japanese Hunting Dog, Newfoundland, Coonhound, Sheepdog, Rhodesian Ridgeback and cocker Spaniel. oh and lets not forget the Staffordshire Terrier and Pomeranian, and those are only the ones that have killed you want to exterminate every dog that has ever attacked a human well that list would be too long. So, basically that's only 25 breeds of dog we need to completely eradicate from the earth not including mixes and crosses. Pit bulls have been used in America for years as special needs dogs so then I assume they are exempt? Any responsible dog owner or breeder generally keeps their dog in an enclosed area unless it is a house dog and I wasn't talking specifically about Pit bulls in that instance anyway. There are many people that want this whole breed exterminated on the other end of the scale are those that will try and convince you they are the warmest friendliest dogs on earth. The truth lies somewhere in the middle. They definitely are not a dog for everyone but raised and socialised correctly are no better or worse than any other dog IMO. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starky Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I have a Pitt-bull and a Staffordshire bull terrier, and firstly i hope the lady in question gets well soon as no matter what the bread of dog it would be a traumatic experience. but as stated earlier i blame the Owner not the Dog! any owner of this type of dog must be responsible for their dogs actions and take time to socialize the animals with other people and other dogs, discipline and exercise are key points and i very rarely see Thai people walking there pets or training them correctly. I have a staff, brought him up as a family pet , I run the energy out of him twice a day and he's good as gold This is about Pitbulls and there's a bloody big difference between Staffordshires and Pitbulls. Wrong again champ! All the original Pit bulls where bred out of Staffordshire Terrier and Bulldog stock brought over from England and Ireland 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jacky54 Posted August 2, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2014 This breed of dog should be eradicated Sent from my GT-I9500 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app A typical knee jerk reaction by someone who has no knowledge of the breed What is there to know, they are highly dangerous dogs and even more so under the 'control' of the morons they seem to attract as owners. Continually blaming the owners for these killers behaviour is like the gun argument, it's not the guns but the gun users. We cannot get rid of the dog or gun owners but we can try to get rid of the guns and these vicious, killer dogs. These dogs are weapons, that's why the moron brigade like them so much. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacky54 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I have had 5 pittbulls together for a time .They lived with my family on my two rai property.They run off sometime,but never attacked people.I have one at my farm now running free,never a problem for people if not enter my property.They grow up with my five kids and love them.Better family dogs can u not find.I will by new pittbulls when these pass away. So what you have just been lucky, anyone giving these killers access to children is very irresponsible IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starky Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 The word "American" was added to the name of this very British breed in the 1970's when pit bulls began being imported to the US under the name Staffordshire Bull Terrier. Most registries simply lumped the two dogs together, since they were the same breed. The AKC and UKC did for many years. Yet the two lines of the same breed had changed in some important physical ways. The pit bulls developed in the UK after the turn of the century had been bred strictly for show and pet. Emphasis had been put on a stocky, "bully" look and small size. Top weight for the breed was 35 pounds - in reality the bottom weight for most pit bulls. Because of these differences, the AKC created two breeds where before their had been one (this has been done several times, as with the Norwich and Norfolk terrier to name one example). Because of this division of the same dog, there were now three distinct "breeds" all originating from the good ol' pit bulldog. The American pit bull terrier as registered by the ADBA and UKC, the American Staffordshire as registered by the American Kennel Club (and by the UKC, but as an American pit bull terrier) and the Staffordshire bull terrier as registered by the AKC and now the UKC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacky54 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I was walking my malemute when a pit bull attacked without warning, no bark. It had escaped from it's yard, hit my dog in the rear and knocked it down and got hold of her back. I'm 6'2" 250 lbs, I hit that pit bull with my fists until my hands got sore, was like hitting a plank. When I couldn't dislodge it I backed up and kicked it like kicking a field goal. The dog twisted in the air and landed on it's feet and came back at my dog. Fortunately the owner heard the ruckus and called his dog off. There is no way on earth a little Thai woman had a chance against one let alone four. The difference between pit bulls and poodles is, the poodle would never have got back up after I kicked it. Carry one of those metal expandable battons, I got one for 100 baht. Whack the buggers across the nose with one of those and they should back off, if not give them a few hits across the back, break it if you have to, these dogs ARE killers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 This is a trash dog breed. No space for them in the modern world. Eradicate all. End of. Every year some people die because they get attacked by farmers cows (not wild one) in Europe. In your logic we should eradicate them as well. Of course we should also eradicate humans. Because there are reports from deadly attacks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacky54 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 people usually get killed by cows as they have gone into a field with guess what- bloody dogs off the lead. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post starky Posted August 2, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2014 This breed of dog should be eradicated Sent from my GT-I9500 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app A typical knee jerk reaction by someone who has no knowledge of the breed What is there to know, they are highly dangerous dogs and even more so under the 'control' of the morons they seem to attract as owners. Continually blaming the owners for these killers behaviour is like the gun argument, it's not the guns but the gun users. We cannot get rid of the dog or gun owners but we can try to get rid of the guns and these vicious, killer dogs. These dogs are weapons, that's why the moron brigade like them so much. This really isn't the forum for it but if you did your research there is actually quite a lot to know. From their inception until after 1980 there was never an attack by a pit bull on a human ever recorded in the media. After 1980 when dog fighting took off again in the U.S and they became a status symbol amongst gangs, people started to train them as guard/attack dogs and that was when things got out of hand. Not everyone that owns a pit bull is a moron any more than someone that owns a Doberman, Rottweiller or German Sheperd to name a few. It is true though that a vast majority of morons has managed to give this breed a very bad reputation in a very short amount of time. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post twix38 Posted August 2, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2014 (edited) any normal person who sees the owner of these (type of) dogs must surely look down on them instantly. No residential area should have to put up with these vicious animals or their maladjusted owners. Show me one house with them and i'll show you neighbours sick of the barking, aggresive behavior and concern they cause in general for a safe and peaceful existence. I'd ask what neighborhood should have to put up with the sort of neighbours who keep these animals! eradicate this particular breed of dog in residential areas and put their owners on notice for antisocial behavior! Owning this dog counts as the first strike and a Red Card. Two strikes and you're incarcerated or lobotomized. Edited August 2, 2014 by twix38 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starky Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I was walking my malemute when a pit bull attacked without warning, no bark. It had escaped from it's yard, hit my dog in the rear and knocked it down and got hold of her back. I'm 6'2" 250 lbs, I hit that pit bull with my fists until my hands got sore, was like hitting a plank. When I couldn't dislodge it I backed up and kicked it like kicking a field goal. The dog twisted in the air and landed on it's feet and came back at my dog. Fortunately the owner heard the ruckus and called his dog off. There is no way on earth a little Thai woman had a chance against one let alone four. The difference between pit bulls and poodles is, the poodle would never have got back up after I kicked it. Carry one of those metal expandable battons, I got one for 100 baht. Whack the buggers across the nose with one of those and they should back off, if not give them a few hits across the back, break it if you have to, these dogs ARE killers. ooh you must be a hard bastard needing to walk the streets with a weapon you sound like one of those types that owns a pitbull 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starky Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I was walking my malemute when a pit bull attacked without warning, no bark. It had escaped from it's yard, hit my dog in the rear and knocked it down and got hold of her back. I'm 6'2" 250 lbs, I hit that pit bull with my fists until my hands got sore, was like hitting a plank. When I couldn't dislodge it I backed up and kicked it like kicking a field goal. The dog twisted in the air and landed on it's feet and came back at my dog. Fortunately the owner heard the ruckus and called his dog off. There is no way on earth a little Thai woman had a chance against one let alone four. The difference between pit bulls and poodles is, the poodle would never have got back up after I kicked it. Carry one of those metal expandable battons, I got one for 100 baht. Whack the buggers across the nose with one of those and they should back off, if not give them a few hits across the back, break it if you have to, these dogs ARE killers. oooh you must be a right hard bastard then needing to walk the streets constantly tooled up with your little baton, you sound like one of those types that would own a pitbull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerbalEd Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 The dogs should be put down immediately and the owner charged with aggravated assault.....plus pay compensation to the woman. To keep one vicious dog in a poorly secured area is bad enough, but 6! 6???? Problems reading? There were 4 and previous report said lightly injured and owner is a cop who was hospitalized, so dogs were not fed since Wednesday(no mention of which week or month) Previous report also states dogs climbed the fence. Owner should also be charged with animal cruelty From the OP "Four of the dogs attacked the unfortunate woman while another two stood guard". Whether or not the owner was hospitalized he cannot be there 24 hours a day controlling his dogs. Why should anyone need to keep any dogs which are unpredictable & capable of killing at the drop of a hat for no discernible reason. I agree with BSJ. Again previous report stated 4 dogs and they have not been fed because owner is in the hospital . Previous report has no mention of dogs attacking other people. Previous report states dogs also killed the dog of the victim. Previous report stated dogs attacked her as she came home, this one states she was "sweeping" Previous report stated dogs climbed the fence. Who is lying? The injured wife or the husband who wants money? Are you actually suggesting that the woman may have deliberately provoked the dogs to attack her ... or faked the incident and her wounds?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HerbalEd Posted August 2, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2014 we know these dogs will not be put down, this is Thailand where killing is a sin, yet they almost all eat meat. This dog problem will only get worse and when vicious dogs start to breed with soi dogs then that problem will get worse as well. I don't like to see these killers referred to as pitties or staffies, makes them sound cuddly. They should be eradicated completely, blaming the owners will never solve the problem. There are other ways and people to put down these dogs. I know what I'd do if I lived in that neighborhood. Some laced premium-grade steaks should do the trick. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacky54 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 (edited) I was walking my malemute when a pit bull attacked without warning, no bark. It had escaped from it's yard, hit my dog in the rear and knocked it down and got hold of her back. I'm 6'2" 250 lbs, I hit that pit bull with my fists until my hands got sore, was like hitting a plank. When I couldn't dislodge it I backed up and kicked it like kicking a field goal. The dog twisted in the air and landed on it's feet and came back at my dog. Fortunately the owner heard the ruckus and called his dog off. There is no way on earth a little Thai woman had a chance against one let alone four. The difference between pit bulls and poodles is, the poodle would never have got back up after I kicked it. Carry one of those metal expandable battons, I got one for 100 baht. Whack the buggers across the nose with one of those and they should back off, if not give them a few hits across the back, break it if you have to, these dogs ARE killers. oooh you must be a right hard bastard then needing to walk the streets constantly tooled up with your little baton, you sound like one of those types that would own a pitbull Anyone who walks the sois around here without something to defend themselves is at best an optimist.I have never owned a dog and never will but I like to have something to fend off viscous soi dogs when the need arises. of course where soi dogs are concerned there are no owners to blame. oh dear, Edited August 2, 2014 by jacky54 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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