Five Thai products may not be removed from US child, forced labour abuse watch lists

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Five Thai products may not be removed from US child, forced labour abuse watch lists

By Digital Content

BANGKOK, Sept 9 -- Thai Ministry of Labour and business operators are drafting their request for the US to remove five Thai products from its list of products involving child labour and forced labour when the US Department of Labour reviews the list in early October, according to a senior official of Department of Foreign Trade.

Panjit Pisawong, deputy director-general of the Department of Foreign Trade, however, said she was not certain if they would be removed from the list.

She said Brazil took three years to get off the list, while Thailand is just beginning its attempt this year.

The five products are shrimp, fish, sugarcane, garments and pornographic media.

The US Department of Labour changes the time frame of its announcement of the list to every two years and the next announcement is due in October 2016. Including Thai item does not cause US government agencies to stop importing Thai products, Ms Panjit said.

Meanwhile, the Ministry of Social Development and Human Security and other concerned agencies planned to report Thailands efforts against human trafficking and labour abuse by next March to convince the US to remove Thailand from its worst human-trafficking watch list next June.

Thailand has made much progress in the efforts due to the policies of the National Council for Peace and Order to legalize and protect alien labour in Thailand and suppress human traffickers.

As Thailand enters the Tier 3 watch list, the US president is authorized to implement non-trade sanctions against the country within 90 days after being included in the list. (MCOT online news)

-- TNA 2014-09-09

[BigBadGeordie]

Five Thai products may not be removed from US child, forced labour abuse watch lists

By Digital Content

BANGKOK, Sept 9

The five products are shrimp, fish, sugarcane, garments and pornographic media.

-- TNA 2014-09-09

Please tell me this is a typo!

[DrLom]

"the Ministry of Social Development and Human Security and other concerned agencies planned to report Thailand’s efforts against human trafficking and labour abuse by next March to convince the US to remove Thailand from its worst human-trafficking watch list next June."

Convince???????

She's gotta be kidding! Little has been done; very little.

[jonclark]

Five Thai products may not be removed from US child, forced labour abuse watch lists

By Digital Content

BANGKOK, Sept 9

The five products are shrimp, fish, sugarcane, garments and pornographic media.

-- TNA 2014-09-09

Please tell me this is a typo!

Isn't porn illegal?

[DrLom]

Five Thai products may not be removed from US child, forced labour abuse watch lists

By Digital Content

BANGKOK, Sept 9

The five products are shrimp, fish, sugarcane, garments and pornographic media.

-- TNA 2014-09-09

Please tell me this is a typo!

Isn't porn illegal?

[kimamey]

Five Thai products may not be removed from US child, forced labour abuse watch lists

By Digital Content

BANGKOK, Sept 9

The five products are shrimp, fish, sugarcane, garments and pornographic media.

-- TNA 2014-09-09

Please tell me this is a typo!

Isn't porn illegal?

Possibly not if you don't call it porn.

[jonclark]

Five Thai products may not be removed from US child, forced labour abuse watch lists

By Digital Content

BANGKOK, Sept 9

The five products are shrimp, fish, sugarcane, garments and pornographic media.

-- TNA 2014-09-09

Please tell me this is a typo!

Isn't porn illegal?

Possibly not if you don't call it porn.

Ahh right ..gotcha...Biological reference material it then sir!

[DrLom]

Please tell me this is a typo!

Isn't porn illegal?

Possibly not if you don't call it porn.

Ahh right ..gotcha...Biological reference material it then sir!

Depends whether or not the exposure is transparent or opaque, does it not?

[kimamey]

Please tell me this is a typo!

Isn't porn illegal?

Possibly not if you don't call it porn.

Ahh right ..gotcha...Biological reference material it then sir!

Not at all it's cultural.

As proof look at these pictures taken at Kae Dam. I think this is what my wife calls a 'naughty festival'.

As well as the usual phallic models http://www.panoramio.com/photo/4069126 (I think that's a dictaphone) there's also culturally significant pictures

http://www.panoramio.com/photo/4069186

Check out the other pictures as well as they aren't all 'naughty'.

[Halion]

What escapes this nation is that simply saying you are doing something is a far cry from actually doing something.

It is fixed because I said it was fixed, case closed time for lunch.

[FireMedic]

Considering shrimp, fishing, garments, and porn are the major exporters, I doubt anything will be done. Here is a fine example of how it's regulated.

[ratcatcher]

Five Thai products may not be removed from US child, forced labour abuse watch lists

By Digital Content

BANGKOK, Sept 9

The five products are shrimp, fish, sugarcane, garments and pornographic media.

-- TNA 2014-09-09

Please tell me this is a typo!

Isn't porn illegal?

Isn't prostitution illegal?

[pisico]

Considering shrimp, fishing, garments, and porn are the major exporters, I doubt anything will be done. Here is a fine example of how it's regulated.

I can see the daggers from the Thai apologists going your way.

It is not a secret that all that, and more, goes on not only in Pattaya.

Last year, during a road trip to the North, we stopped at a roadside eatery where there were several girls ages 10 to 13 milling about, approaching males at he tables and asking if they wanted boom-boom or yum-yum. Some of the little girls showed to be prematurely endowed like women.

We were all guys and were both bemused and shocked by the scene. At one point a Thai man approached our table and pointed to the girl who was nearly fully developed and around 12. He said that we could have her for 50,000 Baht. He was not offering her for a short time: he was selling her!

We laughed and continued our lunch. But he was serious. Before we left, he approached us and lower the price to 40,000 Baht. One of us, fluent in Thai asked what assurances we would have that the girl would be ours. He replied that the girl had no family and that he had bought her from one of her relatives near Vientiane. You buy her. She will be happy with Farang. If you don't like her, you can sell her later.

Detail:, during the time we were there we saw motorcycle cops going into the eatery and into the back rooms with some of the girls.

We felt revulsion and impotent at the same time. True incident.

[pisico]

What escapes this nation is that simply saying you are doing something is a far cry from actually doing something.

It is fixed because I said it was fixed, case closed time for lunch.

So true!

I remember one time when I was pondering the purchase of a condo the seller promising that he would fix this and add that, etc. as soon as I gave him the down payment.

My reply was: I promise to give you the down payment AFTER you fix and add what you promised.

That is not fair! he nearly yelled. He was visibly irritated.

Therein lies the essence of Thainess

[theslime]

Considering shrimp, fishing, garments, and porn are the major exporters, I doubt anything will be done. Here is a fine example of how it's regulated.

I feel sick and impotent, normally I try and be civil, but the Criminals who do this should be given over to a Mob of Women, to decide what to do to them. Rip their bloody arms off. I feel like shit.

[Jeremy50]

Considering shrimp, fishing, garments, and porn are the major exporters, I doubt anything will be done. Here is a fine example of how it's regulated.

I can see the daggers from the Thai apologists going your way.

It is not a secret that all that, and more, goes on not only in Pattaya.

Last year, during a road trip to the North, we stopped at a roadside eatery where there were several girls ages 10 to 13 milling about, approaching males at he tables and asking if they wanted boom-boom or yum-yum. Some of the little girls showed to be prematurely endowed like women.

We were all guys and were both bemused and shocked by the scene. At one point a Thai man approached our table and pointed to the girl who was nearly fully developed and around 12. He said that we could have her for 50,000 Baht. He was not offering her for a short time: he was selling her!

We laughed and continued our lunch. But he was serious. Before we left, he approached us and lower the price to 40,000 Baht. One of us, fluent in Thai asked what assurances we would have that the girl would be ours. He replied that the girl had no family and that he had bought her from one of her relatives near Vientiane. You buy her. She will be happy with Farang. If you don't like her, you can sell her later.

Detail:, during the time we were there we saw motorcycle cops going into the eatery and into the back rooms with some of the girls.

We felt revulsion and impotent at the same time. True incident.

'endowed like women' Also known as teenagers. It sounds to me that you have been watching youtube videos about Svay Pak. 'Yum Yum' is a Cambodian expression, I have never heard it used over here.

[pisico]

Considering shrimp, fishing, garments, and porn are the major exporters, I doubt anything will be done. Here is a fine example of how it's regulated.

I can see the daggers from the Thai apologists going your way.

It is not a secret that all that, and more, goes on not only in Pattaya.

Last year, during a road trip to the North, we stopped at a roadside eatery where there were several girls ages 10 to 13 milling about, approaching males at he tables and asking if they wanted boom-boom or yum-yum. Some of the little girls showed to be prematurely endowed like women.

We were all guys and were both bemused and shocked by the scene. At one point a Thai man approached our table and pointed to the girl who was nearly fully developed and around 12. He said that we could have her for 50,000 Baht. He was not offering her for a short time: he was selling her!

We laughed and continued our lunch. But he was serious. Before we left, he approached us and lower the price to 40,000 Baht. One of us, fluent in Thai asked what assurances we would have that the girl would be ours. He replied that the girl had no family and that he had bought her from one of her relatives near Vientiane. You buy her. She will be happy with Farang. If you don't like her, you can sell her later.

Detail:, during the time we were there we saw motorcycle cops going into the eatery and into the back rooms with some of the girls.

We felt revulsion and impotent at the same time. True incident.

'endowed like women' Also known as teenagers. It sounds to me that you have been watching youtube videos about Svay Pak. 'Yum Yum' is a Cambodian expression, I have never heard it used over here.

Therefore, only that which you heard before exists.

How would you know what I watch and don't watch?

How would you know about Svay Pak? Tell us about your experience and finite knowledge on the matter.

For your information every taxi driver in Bangkok, Pattaya and Phuket uses such terminology when alone in the taxi with a Farang who seems looking for that kind of "action".

Based on the narrowness of you comment it sounds that you live a restricted, limited life fused to an arm chair in front of a computer.

Hurl innuendo at others and it can boomerang to you.

[craigt3365]

An off topic troll post have been removed from view and a member warned. Please stay on topic.

[chooka]

So Thailand is forcing Children into pornography. Totally disgusting and good on the U.S for refusing to import this kiddy porn

[timewilltell]

So Thailand is forcing Children into pornography. Totally disgusting and good on the U.S for refusing to import this kiddy porn

That is not right. Thailand is not forcing children into pornography but it is standing idly by, impotent, because it has a dysfunctional corrupt police force and a dysfunctional society in many respects that allow it to happen unfettered.

Incidentally many societies including the UK and USA are dysfunctional too but for entirely different reasons which are not connected with the OP.

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[rametindallas]

Five Thai products may not be removed from US child, forced labour abuse watch lists

By Digital Content

BANGKOK, Sept 9

The five products are shrimp, fish, sugarcane, garments and pornographic media.

-- TNA 2014-09-09

Please tell me this is a typo!

Isn't porn illegal?

So, the US said Thailand's pornographic media was using child labor, forced labor and, therefore, was on a watch list? I know US government employees watch a lot of porn at work, maybe it was because Thai pornographic media was on the watch list. http://www.pcworld.com/article/194932/federal_workers_caught_watching_porn_at_work.html

How much pornographic media was being exported to the US?

How much pornographic media is Thailand wanting to export to the US?

This seems very strange to me that 'pornographic media' rises to such importance that the Thai government is making it an issue to remove it from US watch lists, equal to fish, shrimp, sugar cane, and garments.

Edited January 4, 2016 by snoop1130

[IsaanUSA]

This seems very strange to me that 'pornographic media' rises to such importance that the Thai government is making it an issue to remove it from US watch lists, equal to fish, shrimp, sugar cane, and garments.

This watch list is about child labor and forced labor, so the materials produced apparently must feature children or forced labor. Why does that seem strange?

[rametindallas]

This seems very strange to me that 'pornographic media' rises to such importance that the Thai government is making it an issue to remove it from US watch lists, equal to fish, shrimp, sugar cane, and garments.

This watch list is about child labor and forced labor, so the materials produced apparently must feature children or forced labor. Why does that seem strange?

My thinking it is strange has nothing to do with the possible fact that children were exploited in some way (the OP does not give any details and it is a well known fact that children, the world over, are exploited by pornographers) or that Thailand's pornographic media is on the US watch list, but for the fact that the Thai GOVERNMENT would want to get their 'pornographic media' off some watch list. Can you name another country in the history of the world that lobbied to get its 'pornographic media' removed from another government's watch list? Is that not strange? Or is that common in your World? Maybe I just don't get out much but for Thailand's government to be wanting Thai pornographic media off the US watch list seems like very strange behavior for a government to me.

[lovetotravel]

If this is correct, it's pretty scary:

http://www.globalslaveryindex.org/country/thailand/

Despite being one of the wealthiest countries in its region, Thailand has the highest estimated prevalence of modern slavery in the South-East Asia area. It is considered a hub of exploitation within the Greater Mekong sub-region, with victims of slavery originating from both within and outside Thailand’s borders. Modern slavery affects some men, women and children from within Thailand, however victims are largely migrant workers from surrounding countries.5

Human trafficking is a significant problem in Thailand, with people trafficked out of Thailand to countries like China, Germany, Israel, Japan, South Africa and the USA. Thai women are particularly vulnerable to trafficking into the forced domestic and sex industries in countries all over the world, lured by seemingly genuine job offers, but often exploited via debt bondage.6 Alternatively, victims originating from Cambodia, Myanmar, Lao PDR and Vietnam are also subject to slavery within Thailand.7

Thailand’s recent growing economic prosperity, and extremely low levels of unemployment (the fourth lowest worldwide with a rate of only 0.7% unemployment.8) has resulted in a labour shortage to be filled by migrants. Thailand has approximately 3.1 million migrant workers9, some of which are vulnerable to exploitation. Victims of modern slavery, from both within and outside Thailand have been identified in various industries, including the sex industry, and fishing, construction and agricultural industries, low-end garment production, domestic work and street begging.10

Of known cases, many of these children are enslaved for sexual exploitation, including child prostitution and pornography. Thai girls, often aged between 12 and 16 years from the hill tribes of northern Thailand are subjected to commercial sexual exploitation under ‘prison-like’ conditions.23 The majority of these known victims, however, come from outside Thailand, with the highest number coming from Myanmar.

From the front page of the link:

The countries with the highest numbers of enslaved people are India, China, Pakistan, Nigeria, Ethiopia, Russia, Thailand, Democratic Republic of Congo, Myanmar and Bangladesh. Taken together, these countries account for 76% of the total estimate of 29.8 million in modern slavery.