Chili con carne

[MZurf]

I've tried asking on TV before without much success, but I'm not giving up. So here goes (again);

Where can I get a decent chili con carne in Pattaya - preferably with baked beans?

[NeverSure]

Chili con carne is very easy to make. Recipes abound on google. It's a peasant food meaning it's made from things the locals can either grow or harvest in the wild. Peasant food the world over is often the best there is, and is usually what's served in a restaurant ie Chinese, Indian, Cajun, etc.

It is slow cooked in one pot after soaking the beans in water overnight. Baked beans are just as easy. So if you really like it, it keeps well in a refrigerator for at least a week and it's cheap to make. What you'll buy in a restaurant probably has ground beef in it but Mexicans also use pork if that's what they have.

If you fry the ground beef just enough to brown it first, it caramelizes it and really improves the flavor.

[jimmybkk]

Jamesons does a pretty decent chili con carne. Although I think they use kidney beans not baked beans.

[MZurf]

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Chili con carne is very easy to make. Recipes abound on google. It's a peasant food meaning it's made from things the locals can either grow or harvest in the wild. Peasant food the world over is often the best there is, and is usually what's served in a restaurant ie Chinese, Indian, Cajun, etc.

It is slow cooked in one pot after soaking the beans in water overnight. Baked beans are just as easy. So if you really like it, it keeps well in a refrigerator for at least a week and it's cheap to make. What you'll buy in a restaurant probably has ground beef in it but Mexicans also use pork if that's what they have.

If you fry the ground beef just enough to brown it first, it caramelizes it and really improves the flavor.

Thanks for the tip but I don't cook, and neither does my wife. We are experts at ordering in restaurants though!

Jamesons does a pretty decent chili con carne. Although I think they use kidney beans not baked beans.

Thanks, I'll try it.

[Jingthing]

Baked beans sounds like the cooking style rather than type of beans.

The dish is not baked.

Beans are an option.

Traditionally there are no beans.

Versions here will have beans.

[Guderian]

The Sportsman on Soi 13 does a good chilli.

[bangsaenguy]

Baked beans sounds like the cooking style rather than type of beans.

The dish is not baked.

Beans are an option.

Traditionally there are no beans.

Versions here will have beans.

+1. Beans do not belong in chili con carne. I do have to cook it differently in Thailand as my wife can't eat beef. Porks works ok

[khunjamesjohnson]

I had a chilli burger at Carls Jr.

Does that count?

[NanLaew]

As a former contestant, winner, loser and judge in the Houston Hydrographic Society's Annual Superbowl Chili Cook-off, I can safely say that including beans in any shape or form will make you at the least an also-ran or worst case, contender of the 'Road Kill' category.

Having said that, my preference is for a small amount of red beans in my home-made efforts and any that I may buy. I would recommend checking at the Wild Chicken at the second road end of Soi 13/2 (Soi Post Office). The chili there checks most of the regulars boxes. Plus the owner has probably the most varied selection of chili sauces in Pattaya for those who want to tart it up to their tastes.

I haven't heard of baked beans in a chili. Does the OP mean like in Heinz Baked Beans? That tomato sauce would bugger up an decent chili, no?

Edited September 24, 2014 by NanLaew

[khunjamesjohnson]

Frasers in Jomtien have it.

[jimmybkk]

Actually if you Google "chili con carne in pattaya" you get quite a few options...

[MZurf]

Please note that I'm not a member of the "Real and Authentic" mafia (and you know who you are ). What I'm after is something that tastes good and I could not give a rodent's behind if it's done according a "real and authentic" recipe

The best chilies I have eaten have had baked beans added, where the tomato sauce has been removed - delicious!

Thanks for the tip regarding the Google search. They may be the biggest threat to privacy ever but I constantly underestimate their search engine's capabilities.

[Jingthing]

Aren't "baked beans" usually loaded with sugar? Authenticschmauthentic, you really don't want sweet chile con carne, do you? Really?

[MZurf]

Aren't "baked beans" usually loaded with sugar? Authenticschmauthentic, you really don't want sweet chile con carne, do you? Really?

No, I don't want sweet chili con carne, Korean BBQ chicken or any other sweet food for that matter, real and authentic or not. Don't know how they did it, I'm a lousy cook. But it the food had tasted sweet I'd never have eaten it. Baked beans in tomato sauce is very sweet, but apparently if you don't use the sweet tomato sauce and don't use too much of the beans the chili doesn't taste sweet. BTW, do baked beans only exist in that horribly sweet tomato sauce from Heinz et al? Surely it must be possible to get ahold of that without the sauce.

No idea why I've found chili con carne with baked beans so tasty. I guess it's probably to do with the fact that baked beans are completely soft/mushy, while most other types of beans that are used are a lot harder and that changes the texture of the dish.

[rmicheald]

Tesco has canned Hormel chile. You can spice it up with a little chile powder if you want. I get a Jones for chile dogs once in a while, so I buy the cheese sausages and some extra cheese, chop up some onion and dump the whole mess on a chewy roll...

[jaywalker]

Yeah they have Hormel chili in the can at many stores & I LOVE it! Just dump it in a bowl & microwave it a few minutes.

[NeverSure]

To be clear, baked beans are another recipe made with beans.

Chili con carne (con/with carne/meat) or chili with meat also has pinto beans in recipes we are used to. This is where the beans are soaked overnight in water and then added to the recipe.

Again, if the meat, even hamburger is browned first in a skillet it caramelizes it and really improves the flavor.

Recipes abound on google and can be adjusted to taste, especially with the chile.

OFF TOPIC Spanish is quite easy to learn for English speakers because the words also derive from Latin. Carne = meat, remember carnivore. Casa = house or home, remember castle. Por favor = for favor, means please.

[raro]

The English language does not derive from Latin, unlike Spanish and other Romanic languages. English belongs to the Germanic language family and is a parallel development.

Both language families belong to the Indogermanic languages and have indeed lots of common words. So is kissing in Bavarian dialect "bussi" and in Farsi (the language of Iran) "busidan", both words being related from very ancient times.

And no beans in chili!

[seasia]

As a former contestant, winner, loser and judge in the Houston Hydrographic Society's Annual Superbowl Chili Cook-off, I can safely say that including beans in any shape or form will make you at the least an also-ran or worst case, contender of the 'Road Kill' category.

Having said that, my preference is for a small amount of red beans in my home-made efforts and any that I may buy. I would recommend checking at the Wild Chicken at the second road end of Soi 13/2 (Soi Post Office). The chili there checks most of the regulars boxes. Plus the owner has probably the most varied selection of chili sauces in Pattaya for those who want to tart it up to their tastes.

I haven't heard of baked beans in a chili. Does the OP mean like in Heinz Baked Beans? That tomato sauce would bugger up an decent chili, no?

Hi

Is the restaurant called Wild Chicken or might it have had a name change ?

Probably my poor eyesight but couldn`t spot it last night, I looked on that soi.

I`d like to give it a try.

Thank You.

[Friendly Stranger]

Baked beans sounds like the cooking style rather than type of beans.

The dish is not baked.

Beans are an option.

Traditionally there are no beans.

Versions here will have beans.

I did not know the traditional recipe did not have beans, as I grew up with kidney beans in it. I should find this recipe and try it as I would think the texture would be not as coarse.

[champers]

The English language does not derive from Latin, unlike Spanish and other Romanic languages. English belongs to the Germanic language family and is a parallel development.

Both language families belong to the Indogermanic languages and have indeed lots of common words. So is kissing in Bavarian dialect "bussi" and in Farsi (the language of Iran) "busidan", both words being related from very ancient times.

And no beans in chili!

Will you be selling chilli in your new establishment? Beans or no beans? What's thw English equivalent of Bussi or Busidan? French Baisse is more related. Very much of English is derived from Latin; they occupied us for a while, as did the French. But not the Germans.

[raro]

The French baiser (!) is indeed related.

Yes, the English language has thanks to the invasion of the Normans a bunch of Latin words adopted. Table is one of them (the British were probably sitting on the floor until the 11th century) and so is liberty. The Germanic word would be freedom which has in the English language a slightly different meaning than liberty, whereas in German only one word (Freiheit) exists, which serves both interpretations. Same goes for the French liberte.

We need to distinguish here between the original language and the adapted vocabulary.

For that very reason, Shakespeare used almost twice as many words as Goethe.

We have no chili on the menu right now, but you are giving me ideas..

[MZurf]

The French baiser (!) is indeed related.

Yes, the English language has thanks to the invasion of the Normans a bunch of Latin words adopted. Table is one of them (the British were probably sitting on the floor until the 11th century) and so is liberty. The Germanic word would be freedom which has in the English language a slightly different meaning than liberty, whereas in German only one word (Freiheit) exists, which serves both interpretations. Same goes for the French liberte.

We need to distinguish here between the original language and the adapted vocabulary.

For that very reason, Shakespeare used almost twice as many words as Goethe.

We have no chili on the menu right now, but you are giving me ideas..

If you offer beans as an optional added ingredient I'll be there! Hopefully you have al fresco dining since beans make me socially awkward

[Pongpat]

Rich Man Poor Man on Jomtien Soi 9 has good Chili Con Carne

[thailiketoo]

Don't they hang people in Texas who put beans in chili. No wonder the guy came to Thailand. Probably on the run.

Edited September 29, 2014 by thailiketoo

[farangbigwig]

chilli con carne mmmmm yummy

[bangsaenguy]

Don't they hang people in Texas who put beans in chili. No wonder the guy came to Thailand. Probably on the run.

They should. As a Texan, I cringe at the very thought, especially baked beans. That would just kill the taste. A few more jalapenos maybe

Edited September 29, 2014 by bangsaenguy

[MZurf]

They hang people in Texas for any number of reasons, but even there I don't thinks you'll get offed for using non-real and authentic ingredients in the chili

[Jingthing]

I didn't grow up in a chile con carne popular region of the U.S. and certainly not Texas. So my idea of it was crap out of a can mostly. Always with beans. Then I happened to order it at a famous Mexican restaurant in San Francisco. Certainly no beans. But I still remember how wonderful it was. I remember telling an old friend who had lived in Mexico and she laughed at me, that I could be so impressed with such a "common" dish. That spoiled me and I wouldn't expect anything like that here. Not even close.

But that said, I wouldn't mind trying an OK version of it here (beans expected here) that people might recommend.

I did try it once here but really cannot recommend:

http://moonshineplace.com/index.htm

Edited September 29, 2014 by Jingthing

[thailiketoo]

They hang people in Texas for any number of reasons, but even there I don't thinks you'll get offed for using non-real and authentic ingredients in the chili

Sorry, I should have written, South Texas.