Palestinian leader accuses Israel of 'genocide' at UN

[Lite Beer]

Palestinian leader accuses Israel of 'genocide' at UN

NEW YORK: -- Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas has accused Israel of carrying out a "war of genocide" in Gaza in his speech at the UN General Assembly.

Israeli Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman said it was a "speech of incitement filled with lies".

Mr Abbas said Israeli "war crimes" in Gaza should be punished, but stopped short of saying he would take the issue to the International Criminal Court.

The 50-day conflict left about 2,100 Palestinians and 73 Israelis dead.

The UN says that most of the Palestinian dead were civilians. Israel says the high civilian death toll was because of Hamas fighters launching attacks from residential areas, including schools and mosques, drawing return fire.

Read More: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-29387079

-- BBC 2014-09-26

[Ulysses G.]

If Israel intended to commit 'genocide', they would have wiped the Palestinians out when they attacked Israel in 1948 or in the other wars that the Arabs started and lost afterwards. Instead, the Palestinians have one of the fastest growing populations in the world with one of the highest obesity rates. As usual Abbas is just blowing smoke up the world's posterior.

[ezzra]

Yes Mr. Abbas, Israel is the worst country in the world, and the Palestinians are model citizens,

not a terrorist among them, all are pious people, continuing with these worn out accusations

will get you no where, maybe more money from Un that been funding you for the last 70 years

and that your nation is the oldest, "refuges" on this earth, while countless other nations have

prospered and went to achieve greatness, your people still live in mud huts riding donkeys

waiting for the world's hands out year after year after year...

[yankee99]

Its sad that civilans have to die buts thats war. I would hardly define 2100 killed genocide.

[2befrank]

Notice he didn't mention what he thought of Hamas who routinely fired rockets at Israel then ran away keeping the civilians locked in their homes to take the return fire, and if they left their homes were shot dead.

Many other things.... Google it, there are lots of TRUE Palestinian accounts of what has been going on in Gaza regards Hamas. They are hated more than the Israelis. Even when the Israelis stopped aggression to allow aid in, the Hamas were taking it all for themselves.

Hamas took over their hospitals for their fighters only and left the people with no real medical refuge.

The list is endless. A lot of palestinians actually want Israel to get rid of Hamas so they can go back to work in Israel and earn good money.

Yes.... No mention of that from Mahmoud, but then again he has been installed by Hamas..... He is the real genocidal terrorist. How the hell the likes of HIM has a seat in the UN I will never know.

[Ulysses G.]

One can almost feel the venom dripping out of the above article, usually, commenting

on such baseless statements are waste of time, but just one of the baseless comment

you have made that Israel never led one peace initiative...

2001, Clinton-Arafat- Israeli Pm Barack at Sharem a shiek offered the Palestinians 95%

their land back in echange for peace...... Arafat flatly refused....

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/jan/03/israel2

In 2008, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert offered to withdraw from almost the entire West Bank and partition Jerusalem on a demographic basis. Another blown opportunity by the Palestinians.

[Munsterman]

One can almost feel the venom dripping out of the above article, usually, commenting

on such baseless statements are waste of time, but just one of the baseless comment

you have made that Israel never led one peace initiative...

2001, Clinton-Arafat- Israeli Pm Barack at Sharem a shiek offered the Palestinians 95%

their land back in echange for peace...... Arafat flatly refused....

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/jan/03/israel2

In 2008, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert offered to withdraw from almost the entire West Bank and partition Jerusalem on a demographic basis. Another blown opportunity by the Palestinians.

Are you disingenuous or just ill-informed? Abbas was told NOT to sign the offer by Israel's Foreign Minister, Tzipi Livni, as she was replacing Ohlmert while he resigned to fight allegations of corruption. Abbas did not know who he should be dealing with. He appears to have made the mistake of thinking that he might get a better deal from Livni. In retrospect, a huge mistake. Your inference that Abbas somehow did not want peace or the realisation of a 2 state solution is way off the mark. He was just misread the entrails.

[Scott]

A reported racist post which was inflammatory has been removed along with replies. Please stay on topic and keep the discussion civil.

[Munsterman]

Genocide is too strong a word for what just happened in Gaza. Rather, it was just another episode on the on-going ethnic cleansing of Palestinians by Israel. There seems no doubt that war crimes were committed - by both sides, although the Israeli Army crimes are far more murderous in their scale and methods. But that is still not genocide.

[ezzra]

One can almost feel the venom dripping out of the above article, usually, commenting

on such baseless statements are waste of time, but just one of the baseless comment

you have made that Israel never led one peace initiative...

2001, Clinton-Arafat- Israeli Pm Barack at Sharem a shiek offered the Palestinians 95%

their land back in echange for peace...... Arafat flatly refused....

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/jan/03/israel2

In 2008, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert offered to withdraw from almost the entire West Bank and partition Jerusalem on a demographic basis. Another blown opportunity by the Palestinians.

Are you disingenuous or just ill-informed? Abbas was told NOT to sign the offer by Israel's Foreign Minister, Tzipi Livni, as she was replacing Ohlmert while he resigned to fight allegations of corruption. Abbas did not know who he should be dealing with. He appears to have made the mistake of thinking that he might get a better deal from Livni. In retrospect, a huge mistake. Your inference that Abbas somehow did not want peace or the realisation of a 2 state solution is way off the mark. He was just misread the entrails.

Strange how the Palestinians leadership keep making "mistakes" over and over again.. all the while

looking for the best deal they can get while their people wallowing in misery and poverty which

plays to the agenda of the PA leadership to solicit more donations and more pity from the world...

[JDGRUEN]

Israel is armed with nuclear bombs and missiles but not hundreds and hundreds ... They have these and their enemies know it. They are possessed as defense - under the idea similar to MAD - mutually assured destruction - but not exactly the same as the old concept ...Nuclear armed just in case a host Islamic nation such as Iran decided to send a nuclear missile to Israel or give nuclear arms to terrorists. The threat of nuclear retaliation by Israel cannot be done away with by any aggressor because Israel has a few hidden away with the delivery aircraft and they could never be found in time by any invader who brought millions of armed fighters to overwhelm Israel or plant a nuclear mine in the ground to be detonated. Any host country sponsoring such activity would as they say 'reap the whirlwind'... To top it off Israel has a least five or more German built - very modern diesel submarines with Poseidon / Polaris type nuclear tipped missiles... One can only imagine where they are stationed ... almost anywhere within reach of the Middle East...

[Ulysses G.]

Abbas did not know who he should be dealing with. He appears to have made the mistake of thinking that he might get a better deal from Livni. In retrospect, a huge mistake. Your inference that Abbas somehow did not want peace or the realisation of a 2 state solution is way off the mark. He was just misread the entrails.

The Palestinian Arabs have been making these "mistakes" since the early 1900s. They turned down their own state and have refused peace deal after peace deal. I am far from convinced that they really want peace and that includes Abbas. His main claim to fame is that he is not part of Hamas, but Fatah - his party - has plenty of hate filled nutcases in their ranks too.

[rickirs]

So long as Hamas is willing to fight to the death of every last Plalstinian, peace between Israel and Palestine will remain elusive. The Palestine Authority must find a credible and reliable Arab sponsor to rid itself of Hamas rule so that it alone can negotiate with Israel in a nonthreatening environment. Such association may require the Sponsor to occupy Palestine to completely suppress and eliminate Hamas control and terrorism. Egypt seems a likely candidate.

[ezzra]

Israel is armed with nuclear bombs and missiles but not hundreds and hundreds ... They have these and their enemies know it. They are possessed as defense - under the idea similar to MAD - mutually assured destruction - but not exactly the same as the old concept ...Nuclear armed just in case a host Islamic nation such as Iran decided to send a nuclear missile to Israel or give nuclear arms to terrorists. The threat of nuclear retaliation by Israel cannot be done away with by any aggressor because Israel has a few hidden away with the delivery aircraft and they could never be found in time by any invader who brought millions of armed fighters to overwhelm Israel or plant a nuclear mine in the ground to be detonated. Any host country sponsoring such activity would as they say 'reap the whirlwind'... To top it off Israel has a least five or more German built - very modern diesel submarines with Poseidon / Polaris type nuclear tipped missiles... One can only imagine where they are stationed ... almost anywhere within reach of the Middle East...

Good post, and just to add an not widely known fact that Israel was seriously thinking of deploying

it's " judgment day's weapon " back in 1973 war where it seem for a while that the Arab armies may over run the country,

but they have managed to rally back to win the war...

[Wat dee]

Israel is armed with nuclear bombs and missiles but not hundreds and hundreds ... They have these and their enemies know it. They are possessed as defense - under the idea similar to MAD - mutually assured destruction - but not exactly the same as the old concept ...Nuclear armed just in case a host Islamic nation such as Iran decided to send a nuclear missile to Israel or give nuclear arms to terrorists. The threat of nuclear retaliation by Israel cannot be done away with by any aggressor because Israel has a few hidden away with the delivery aircraft and they could never be found in time by any invader who brought millions of armed fighters to overwhelm Israel or plant a nuclear mine in the ground to be detonated. Any host country sponsoring such activity would as they say 'reap the whirlwind'... To top it off Israel has a least five or more German built - very modern diesel submarines with Poseidon / Polaris type nuclear tipped missiles... One can only imagine where they are stationed ... almost anywhere within reach of the Middle East...

Good post, and just to add an not widely known fact that Israel was seriously thinking of deploying

it's " judgment day's weapon " back in 1973 war where it seem for a while that the Arab armies may over run the country,

but they have managed to rally back to win the war...

I just hope I live long enough to witness these weapons in action.

[pumpuy]

I remember that a few years ago I took the ferry from Surat to Samui and I was sitting next to a few Israeli soldiers . They were talking english that everybody could understand when they said " a good Arab is a dead Arab , we will kill them all ...! Then they have been joking and having a good time . PURE RACISM ! Just as bad as Hitler !

They killed more than 400 palestine kids in their recent last war , But of cours these kids , ( part of them killed deliberatly by snipers ) , must have been a serious threat to Israeli security , just as their dead mothers and all the other civilians killed by the faschist State of Israel ?!

All these lies by the Israelis ...it is always the fault of the other one , they are only protecting themselves ... Yak uak ...just look at he facts !!

I am not a muslim , I am not of arabic origin , I am a buddhist . I have no more sympathy for most of Israeli people , but for the few Israeli soldiers who recently refused continuing their fight against the Arabs , I respect these people , they kind of prove that not all are bad ! What about he land stolen from the palestinians ? All these destroyed and burnt down olive trees ...

Hey Ulysses and ezzra , if there would be a dead arab with 10 knife wounds in his back lying in front of you , the knife still stuck in his back I am sure that you would say he "commited suicide " , no ?

No , I do not like violence , I do not like these agressive Idiots who are filled with hate and aggression , no matter if they are muslims or jews . If you people want to kill each other , than , at least , leave the innocent , ( kids and their mothers , elders not being able to fight etc ) , out of your pervert game !

Edited September 27, 2014 by pumpuy

[lwilk]

Who Likes Israel ?

If you do support Israel, then tell me, name any country, which is closest to Israel that Israel has a great relationship with and sees eye to eye with them !

Who is Israel's closest busom buddy country ?

[h90]

If Israel intended to commit 'genocide', they would have wiped the Palestinians out when they attacked Israel in 1948 or in the other wars that the Arabs started and lost afterwards. Instead, the Palestinians have one of the fastest growing populations in the world with one of the highest obesity rates. As usual Abbas is just blowing smoke up the world's posterior.

genocide is too hard, but they try hard to get them away and take their land.

When you steal the farmers land, than he'll be the next terrorist or freedom fighter.

On the other hand shooting rockets won't make Israel more friendly as well.

[Jingthing]

The Israel demonizers who still argue Israel should have never existed and shouldn't exist now ... what do you propose be done with the millions of Jewish Israelis. mostly born there? Short of actual genocide against them (a clearly stated goal of Hamas which Abbas has disgustingly allied himself with) will you invite these many millions of Israeli Jews to settle in your country now? People obsessed with demonizing Israel and/or Jews don't seem to like them when they have power (now a strong state) or when also they don't have power (most of Jewish history). Jews have collectively "chosen" that having more power (of a strong state) is a better position.

Edited September 27, 2014 by Jingthing

[Jingthing]

I remember that a few years ago I took the ferry from Surat to Samui and I was sitting next to a few Israeli soldiers . They were talking english that everybody could understand when they said " a good Arab is a dead Arab , we will kill them all ...! Then they have been joking and having a good time . PURE RACISM ! Just as bad as Hitler !

...

Some moronic soldiers shooting the sheit on a boat are as bad as Hitler?

Does anyone actually believe that?

Back to reality.

20 percent of Israeli citizens are Arabs.

The potential Palestinian state will not be inviting in ANY Jews. None.

Which side is more racist?

No, of course there is no denying there is racism among Israeli Jews. There is racism in every country in the world. Including Thailand.

Edited September 27, 2014 by Jingthing

[dexterm]

Israel has been ethnically cleansing Palestinians for more than 100 years now, so nothing new in the recent Gazan War.

A completely unnecessary war planned and provoked by Israel smashing up Palestinian homes and imprisoning hundreds of Hamas supporters on the pretext of looking for the 2 murderers of the Israeli teens on June 12.

Result: 490 innocent children murdered, 100,000 refugees refugees once more and homeless. Electricity, water, sewerage infrastructure deliberately destroyed by Israeli bombs courtesy of Uncle Sam.

Google Images children killed Gaza to see the IDF’s genocidal handiwork, and the IDF’s popular “1 shot 2 kills” T shirts depicting a pregnant Palestinian woman caught in crosshairs.

My advice to Abbas and the Palestinians. Keep your heads down – don’t give Israel an excuse to ethnically cleanse further.

Take your case for statehood, war crimes and stolen land to the UN and the International Criminal Court. Flood the social media with images of the daily beatings, murder and humiliations you have to suffer at the hands of an occupying Israeli army.

One day Israel will have to absorb all the Palestinians it is presently occupying, make them citizens and only then will the genocide cease.

[Jingthing]

Read the Hamas charter to understand why it is impossible for Israeli Jews to make peace with that mindset.

The radical Islamic Jihadist ideology of ISIS and Hamas are in synch when it comes to Jews.

Much of the world is now dealing with the harsh reality of the Jihadist ideology, which is a throwback from the dark ages. Israel is just much closer to it geographically. It's the same conflict.

You don't "negotiate" with such forces by singing Kumbaya.

Edited September 27, 2014 by Jingthing

[Ulysses G.]

The difference is that the Arabs were the ones that started the violence in the first place. In both cases, the Jews were not.

Whoever started the violence is not so important anymore ...

It is important when ignorant people try to compare Jews to Nazis as you did in the post that I was replying to.

[pumpuy]

Israel is armed with nuclear bombs and missiles but not hundreds and hundreds ... They have these and their enemies know it. They are possessed as defense - under the idea similar to MAD - mutually assured destruction - but not exactly the same as the old concept ...Nuclear armed just in case a host Islamic nation such as Iran decided to send a nuclear missile to Israel or give nuclear arms to terrorists. The threat of nuclear retaliation by Israel cannot be done away with by any aggressor because Israel has a few hidden away with the delivery aircraft and they could never be found in time by any invader who brought millions of armed fighters to overwhelm Israel or plant a nuclear mine in the ground to be detonated. Any host country sponsoring such activity would as they say 'reap the whirlwind'... To top it off Israel has a least five or more German built - very modern diesel submarines with Poseidon / Polaris type nuclear tipped missiles... One can only imagine where they are stationed ... almost anywhere within reach of the Middle East...

Good post, and just to add an not widely known fact that Israel was seriously thinking of deploying

it's " judgment day's weapon " back in 1973 war where it seem for a while that the Arab armies may over run the country,

but they have managed to rally back to win the war...

I just hope I live long enough to witness these weapons in action.

You really want to see nuclear bombs explode ? Are you MAD ?

[Scott]

Off-topic, inflammatory posts and replies deleted. Please stay on topic.

[coma]

Same old records being played by the same old DJ's. YAWN

[Mosha]

Live in a country that cannot afford to lose a war, I suppose it kind of warps your understanding of life.

[Chicog]

Who Likes Israel ?

If you do support Israel, then tell me, name any country, which is closest to Israel that Israel has a great relationship with and sees eye to eye with them !

Who is Israel's closest busom buddy country ?

North Korea?

[Scott]

Off-topic post and replies deleted.

[Jingthing]

Prime Minister Netanyahu responds to the ridiculous lies / false charges of "genocide" from the Palestinians:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEdIgEiHIxs