Key witness says foreigner kills British tourists

[Theforeigner]

One of Sean's photos from Koh Tao. The man on the left looks remarkably like the man caught walking, and running in the CCTV. I find Sean's choice of words continually odd. Such as, wanting to kill us all one by one.

Also listen to the lyrics of this song written and sung by the same Sean McAnna, IMO some very troubling lyrics:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPe49FMbB1o&list=UU7qa1mB8XrbtZvI2xjtO_LA

[SteveFong]

he's pretty good.

[englishoak]

One of Sean's photos from Koh Tao. The man on the left looks remarkably like the man caught walking, and running in the CCTV. I find Sean's choice of words continually odd. Such as, wanting to kill us all one by one.

Also listen to the lyrics of this song written and sung by the same Sean McAnna, IMO some very troubling lyrics:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPe49FMbB1o&list=UU7qa1mB8XrbtZvI2xjtO_LA

Seriously ?? he looks about 18 there lol

Maybe If you play it backwards you might even hear a hidden message from Satan.......

i can imagine what youd say if hed done a cover of Killer on the loose by Thin Lizzy ...

At least try to keep it real here eh ?

[Theforeigner]

One of Sean's photos from Koh Tao. The man on the left looks remarkably like the man caught walking, and running in the CCTV. I find Sean's choice of words continually odd. Such as, wanting to kill us all one by one.

Also listen to the lyrics of this song written and sung by the same Sean McAnna, IMO some very troubling lyrics:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPe49FMbB1o&list=UU7qa1mB8XrbtZvI2xjtO_LA

Seriously ?? he looks about 18 there lol

Maybe If you play it backwards you might even hear a hidden message from Satan.......

i can imagine what youd say if hed done a cover of Killer on the loose by Thin Lizzy ...

At least try to keep it real here eh ?

Take it easy!

Sean Mcanna posted it on his youtube profile himself 04/04/2014.

And Sean Mcanna is the guy to the left, NOT the younger guy to the right playing the guitar, and this video is probably made in 2014.

Thise are the lyrics of the song, or part of it, due to that english is not my first languish I can't get all the words, but maybe somone else can fill the missing parts in (the ??????? parts)

Stole the world by Sean McAnna

I stole the world

with no remorse

for those I killed

I stole the world

with no remorse

for those I killed

I'v got a hunger that's devouring me

and I'm trying to keep my sanity

sanity but I know I got to take it slow

I will be on the run for a while

but as long as I keep on bawling

????????????

????????????

and I stole the world

with no remorse

for those I killed

and I stole the world

with no remorse

for those I killed

I'v got a treasure that's possesing me

and I'm trying to keep my dignity

but I know, my life is done

look at this prodigal son

no were to go, no were to hide, no were to run

I stole the world

with no remorse

for those I'v killed

and I stole the world

with no remorse

for those I'v killed

Take my life if you want it

because I can't choose it anymore

there's the chance I can turn myself in

???????????

???????????

watching me destroy myself

???????????

???????????

and I stole the world

with no remorse

for those I'v killed

and I stole the world

with no remorse

for those I'v killed

This IMHO indeed seem to have bin written by a person who is struggling REALLY HARD with his own deep darkness and what it has led him to do in life...murder??? I don't know but in the context of the whole situation ???... it is IMO a possibilty, add to that all the blood on his guitar which indeed is another serious worry IMO.

[TV7]

I apologize, it was Hannah's DNA not Davids on the outside of the condom. Very sorry this mistake.

It gives more credence to the original theory that they were disturbed while making out on the beach and attacked by two Thais

[englishoak]

Id say its written by a person with a drug abuse problem, typical teen anti society ideas, lack of belonging and no song writing capability ..

songs really arnt a measure, a personal diary maybe but hardly ever are song lyrics acted out in reality..

so how would you view the writer of this ?

Killer on the Loose

Some people they call me Jack

Some people they call me insane
I'm looking for somebody
And I don't even know her name
I might be looking for you
Wherever you may be
For there is something I've got to do to you honey
And it's between you and me
Now you might think it's fun
Or maybe it's a joke
But you've got plenty of reason to worry honey
'Cause you wouldn't stand a hope

There's a killer on the loose again
A killer on the loose
There's a killer on the loose again
A lady killer on the loose

Now I'm not trying to be nasty
Or I'm not trying to make you scared
But there's a killer on the loose
Or haven't you heard
He'll be walking around this town
Just about midnight
Yes, that's Chinatown
That's right
That's right

Now you might think I'm messing
Or he don't exist
But honey I'm confessing
I'm a mad sexual rapist

There's a killer on the loose again
A killer on the loose
There's a killer on the loose again
A ladykiller on the loose

"I'll be standing in the shadows of love
Waiting for you
Don't unzip your zipper
'Cause you know I'm Jack the Ripper
Now don't wail, don't"

There's a killer on the loose again
Standing in the shadows
A killer on the loose
There's a killer on the loose again
Coming to get you
A lady killer on the loose
There's a killer on the loose again
Standing in the shadows of love

A killer on the loose
There's a killer on the loose again
A lady killer on the loose
There's a killer on the loose again
Standing in the shadow
A killer on the loose, of love
There's a killer on the loose again
Oh
A lady killer on the loose.

[Theforeigner]

Id say its written by a person with a drug abuse problem, typical teen anti society ideas, lack of belonging and no song writing capability ..

songs really arnt a measure, a personal diary maybe but hardly ever are song lyrics acted out in reality..

so how would you view the writer of this ?

Killer on the Loose

Some people they call me Jack

Some people they call me insane

I'm looking for somebody

And I don't even know her name

I might be looking for you

Wherever you may be

For there is something I've got to do to you honey

And it's between you and me

Now you might think it's fun

Or maybe it's a joke

But you've got plenty of reason to worry honey

'Cause you wouldn't stand a hope

There's a killer on the loose again

A killer on the loose

There's a killer on the loose again

A lady killer on the loose

Now I'm not trying to be nasty

Or I'm not trying to make you scared

But there's a killer on the loose

Or haven't you heard

He'll be walking around this town

Just about midnight

Yes, that's Chinatown

That's right

That's right

Now you might think I'm messing

Or he don't exist

But honey I'm confessing

I'm a mad sexual rapist

There's a killer on the loose again

A killer on the loose

There's a killer on the loose again

A ladykiller on the loose

"I'll be standing in the shadows of love

Waiting for you

Don't unzip your zipper

'Cause you know I'm Jack the Ripper

Now don't wail, don't"

There's a killer on the loose again

Standing in the shadows

A killer on the loose

There's a killer on the loose again

Coming to get you

A lady killer on the loose

There's a killer on the loose again

Standing in the shadows of love

A killer on the loose

There's a killer on the loose again

A lady killer on the loose

There's a killer on the loose again

Standing in the shadow

A killer on the loose, of love

There's a killer on the loose again

Oh

A lady killer on the loose.

What a stupid comparison.

Those lyrics/song is nothing but a commercial piece of sh.. by the band Thin Lizzy written /inspired by "Jack the Ripper" and "The Yorkshire Ripper".

[siampolee]

Key-witness-says-foreigner-kills-British-tourists.

''Key'' when used in Thai has an interesting meaning and of course it may well be the apt description of the comments made by the commentator.

[Theforeigner]

Here is Sean Mcanna's bloody guitar:

https://twitter.com/andylines/status/514718592714416128

WHY has that blood not been DNA tested ???

[SteveFong]

the cigarette and the unused condom have me thinking what I originally thought before:

David and Hannah were getting started,

they got interrupted by the two asians that they walked past who were smoking,

they decided to take the girl, and killed David first knowing they had time and opportunity and possibly, a lookout

Edited September 29, 2014 by SteveFong

[Albertosez]

One of Sean's photos from Koh Tao. The man on the left looks remarkably like the man caught walking, and running in the CCTV. I find Sean's choice of words continually odd. Such as, wanting to kill us all one by one.

Yes - I looked at this page and had the same thoughts. There is another photo too with a photo taken from a different direction which shows a guy with a lot of tattoos and for some reason I just took an instant dislike to his body language !

[TV7]

the cigarette and the unused condom have me thinking what I originally thought before:

David and Hannah were getting started,

they got interrupted by the two asians that they walked past who were smoking,

they decided to take thee girl, and killed David first

I have thought this the most likely scenario right from the start. The injuries to the back of Davids head and to Hannah's face suggest they were on the ground when attacked. And the bodies were found in a concealed area of the beach. It may have nothing to do with an argument in the AC bar.

[SteveFong]

the cigarette and the unused condom have me thinking what I originally thought before:

David and Hannah were getting started,

they got interrupted by the two asians that they walked past who were smoking,

they decided to take thee girl, and killed David first

I have thought this the most likely scenario right from the start. The injuries to the back of Davids head and to Hannah's face suggest they were on the ground when attacked. And the bodies were found in a concealed area of the beach. It may have nothing to do with an argument in the AC bar.

opportunity crime

they knew they wouldnt be seen

[Plutojames88]

One of Sean's photos from Koh Tao. The man on the left looks remarkably like the man caught walking, and running in the CCTV. I find Sean's choice of words continually odd. Such as, wanting to kill us all one by one.

Also listen to the lyrics of this song written and sung by the same Sean McAnna, IMO some very troubling lyrics:

Seriously ?? he looks about 18 there lol

Maybe If you play it backwards you might even hear a hidden message from Satan.......

i can imagine what youd say if hed done a cover of Killer on the loose by Thin Lizzy ...

At least try to keep it real here eh ?

Take it easy!

Sean Mcanna posted it on his youtube profile himself 04/04/2014.

And Sean Mcanna is the guy to the left, NOT the younger guy to the right playing the guitar, and this video is probably made in 2014.

Thise are the lyrics of the song, or part of it, due to that english is not my first languish I can't get all the words, but maybe somone else can fill the missing parts in (the ??????? parts)

Stole the world by Sean McAnna

I stole the world

with no remorse

for those I killed

I stole the world

with no remorse

for those I killed

I'v got a hunger that's devouring me

and I'm trying to keep my sanity

sanity but I know I got to take it slow

I will be on the run for a while

but as long as I keep on bawling

????????????

????????????

and I stole the world

with no remorse

for those I killed

and I stole the world

with no remorse

for those I killed

I'v got a treasure that's possesing me

and I'm trying to keep my dignity

but I know, my life is done

look at this prodigal son

no were to go, no were to hide, no were to run

I stole the world

with no remorse

for those I'v killed

and I stole the world

with no remorse

for those I'v killed

Take my life if you want it

because I can't choose it anymore

there's the chance I can turn myself in

???????????

???????????

watching me destroy myself

???????????

???????????

and I stole the world

with no remorse

for those I'v killed

and I stole the world

with no remorse

for those I'v killed

This IMHO indeed seem to have bin written by a person who is struggling REALLY HARD with his own deep darkness and what it has led him to do in life...murder??? I don't know but in the context of the whole situation ???... it is IMO a possibilty, add to that all the blood on his guitar which indeed is another serious worry IMO.

Is this sufficient evidence that would at least see him more questioned.?

I think some might answer yes.

The references are about killing.

No remorse .

Etc

And he did arrive the day of murders.

Lets just clear things up some more and ask him in for a few more questions .

Edited September 29, 2014 by Plutojames88

[TV7]

the cigarette and the unused condom have me thinking what I originally thought before:

David and Hannah were getting started,

they got interrupted by the two asians that they walked past who were smoking,

they decided to take thee girl, and killed David first

I have thought this the most likely scenario right from the start. The injuries to the back of Davids head and to Hannah's face suggest they were on the ground when attacked. And the bodies were found in a concealed area of the beach. It may have nothing to do with an argument in the AC bar.

opportunity crime

they knew they wouldnt be seen

Precisely. A pair of sexual opportunists. After killing him they had to kill her. They probably left the island immediately.

[SteveFong]

the cigarette and the unused condom have me thinking what I originally thought before:

David and Hannah were getting started,

they got interrupted by the two asians that they walked past who were smoking,

they decided to take thee girl, and killed David first

I have thought this the most likely scenario right from the start. The injuries to the back of Davids head and to Hannah's face suggest they were on the ground when attacked. And the bodies were found in a concealed area of the beach. It may have nothing to do with an argument in the AC bar.

opportunity crime

they knew they wouldnt be seen

Precisely. A pair of sexual opportunists. After killing him they had to kill her. They probably left the island immediately.

sadly. David and Hannah put themselves in harms way, and, it cost them their lives.

it is amazing how a seemingly innocent act, can become so tragic, so fast.

David may have fought, but, after being hit in the back of the head by a piece of rebar, he had no chance and was quickly drowned.

the poor girl was then defenseless and the last 10 minutes of her life, was painful and gory.

hopefully, her adrenalin and other chemicals caused her to feel less pain

[animatic]

One of Sean's photos from Koh Tao. The man on the left looks remarkably like the man caught walking, and running in the CCTV. I find Sean's choice of words continually odd. Such as, wanting to kill us all one by one.

Also listen to the lyrics of this song written and sung by the same Sean McAnna, IMO some very troubling lyrics:

Seriously ?? he looks about 18 there lol

Maybe If you play it backwards you might even hear a hidden message from Satan.......

i can imagine what youd say if hed done a cover of Killer on the loose by Thin Lizzy ...

At least try to keep it real here eh ?

So we should figure that when Bob Marley sung " I Shot The Sheriff " he actually shot a sheriff to match their words?

Stephen King has killed dozens so he knew how to write about horrible situations?

Styx and The Eagles were Renegades and Desperados so they could write their songs?

Sorry folks it doesn't work that way.

Any and ALL good song and story writers use their imaginations

to create a mindset to fit a story sing or potential character.

You need not live through a ship sinking to image the terror of it.

Some must believe the Beatles bought a submarine for Ringo, Paul really was a Walrus,

and Lucy really was in the sky with diamonds.

This song only shows McAnna has some imagination.

Edited September 29, 2014 by animatic

[JOC]

Scenario # 4356:

David and Hannah on their way to their lovenest walk past 3 people on the beach singing and playing guitar. Those 3 people are Sean and the two younger relatives of the barowner, who in their drunk/drugged state of mind decide to have some "fun". Follows the young couple, a fuse blows in Seans head and he attacks David with a hoe and finish him off by dragging him into the sea and drown him.

In the meantime Hannah is raped by the two Thais, who after they are finished kill her.

That would explain the chase of Sean the following night, because the two local killers (and their families) didn't trust a western druggie to be able to keep his mouth shut. So they were telling him to leave the island immidiately or else........

I don't beleve for one second, that Sean is not involved!

[Theforeigner]

Seems like my post with the Sean's "bloody guitar" link does not work, here is another link that should work, the photo is in 3rd post:

http://www.cambodiaexpatsonline.com/viewtopic.php?t=1965&p=33760

[SteveFong]

Sean was not involved

your theory has already been discredited, Seans DNA swabbed, and he is gone,

he knows the killers though, and gave them up,

it nearly cost him his life

he was wise to flee

[Theforeigner]

Scenario # 4356:

David and Hannah on their way to their lovenest walk past 3 people on the beach singing and playing guitar. Those 3 people are Sean and the two younger relatives of the barowner, who in their drunk/drugged state of mind decide to have some "fun". Follows the young couple, a fuse blows in Seans head and he attacks David with a hoe and finish him off by dragging him into the sea and drown him.

In the meantime Hannah is raped by the two Thais, who after they are finished kill her.

That would explain the chase of Sean the following night, because the two local killers (and their families) didn't trust a western druggie to be able to keep his mouth shut. So they were telling him to leave the island immidiately or else........

I don't beleve for one second, that Sean is not involved!

Sound plausible to me.

And the thing for police to do is;... TEST THE BLOOD ON SEAN'S GUITAR !!!

That would rule him IN or OUT !!!

[JOC]

Sean was not involved

your theory has already been discredited, Seans DNA swabbed, and he is gone,

he knows the killers though, and gave them up,

it nearly cost him his life

he was wise to flee

Try to read my post again!!

Where would Seans DNA show up, if she was raped by the two Thais??

[Theforeigner]

Sean was not involved

your theory has already been discredited, Seans DNA swabbed, and he is gone,

he knows the killers though, and gave them up,

it nearly cost him his life

he was wise to flee

Sean Mcanna has only been ruled out concerning the semen DNA found inside Hannah, the DNA from two asian persons who raped Hannah.

BUT if JOC's theory is correct, that Sean did not participate in the rape, but did kill David and/or Hannah, then Sean would NOT have bin ruled out!

[SteveFong]

I may agree that he was with the two killers,

It does make some sense

where there's smoke there's fire,'

the thai cop and the ac bar manager didnt suggest that they were going to force sean to kill himself, if they weren't covering for someone

I want the kid in the cctv who was running so fast he looked like he was flying, and the look on his face was also, someone who knew and was fearful

you just dont run that fast that time of the morning unless you are running from someone or something,

he also had no shoes, so, that could be what the other guy went back for,

remember they were analysing a perfect pair if barefoot feet at the crime scene

Edited September 29, 2014 by SteveFong

[bunglebag]

Why would a fuse blow in Sean's head and he attack David?

If your scenario is at all close then I'd have thought it more likely that the two asians attacked David (particularly if there had been an earlier altercation). Who knows what could have happened though if people were yaba'd up!? Sean may well have witnessed something though, or know something. But if he is safe now then why not talk? (not here, but to the relevant authorities, unless he has something to hide).

There has been a lot of insinuation from various people that many islanders know much more than they are saying, or even who did it. If this is true then mafia or not, the wall of silence is just shocking. These 2 people deserve some justice if at all possible, offical or unoffical. Whoever did this should not be allowed to get away with it.

Latest Bangkok Post says they think they are looking for 2 asian attackers and one fearful witness

Both sons should blatantly be DNAd too but doesn't seem like that is going to happen. Have seen mention of there being cctv footage from ac bar of the night in question but nothing about whether it shows any altercation or not - one of the few bits of info the police have not been broadcasting! Either there was and it's a major lead imo or there wasn't and whoever said there was was throwing out a red herring.

Edited September 29, 2014 by bunglebag

[SteveFong]

bangkok post has it right,

the fearful witness, may have been sean, but, also may have been a girlfriend of Hannah who was worried she wasnt in her bunk and strolled into the scene, although if a girl, she'd be dead too unless she was a fast runner

am leaning to the two guys sean photo's and sean as the shocked non participant

[Theforeigner]

Why is nobody interested in the blood splatter on Sean's guitar ???

Who's blood is it ???

Sean's blood? Hanna's? David's? or someone else's?

WHY has it not been DNA tested ???!!!

Here is a link to a photo of Sean Mcanna's "bloody guitar", the photo is in 3rd post:

http://www.cambodiaexpatsonline.com/...t=1965&p=33760

Edited September 29, 2014 by Theforeigner

[elektrified]

20 minute news special on this case on the Thai news this morning. Nothing new to report........ Don't know who did it....

[elektrified]

The photo of the blood smeared acoustic guitar owned by the Scottish cross-dresser is shocking. Someone needs to do some forensics on that!

[jucel]

Scenario # 4356:

David and Hannah on their way to their lovenest walk past 3 people on the beach singing and playing guitar. Those 3 people are Sean and the two younger relatives of the barowner, who in their drunk/drugged state of mind decide to have some "fun". Follows the young couple, a fuse blows in Seans head and he attacks David with a hoe and finish him off by dragging him into the sea and drown him.

In the meantime Hannah is raped by the two Thais, who after they are finished kill her.

That would explain the chase of Sean the following night, because the two local killers (and their families) didn't trust a western druggie to be able to keep his mouth shut. So they were telling him to leave the island immidiately or else........

I don't beleve for one second, that Sean is not involved!

You should be banned from posting such inane dross

Do you actually read the stuff your posting and believe it or are you just trolling.

Where are the cuts/bruises on Sean to say he had been in a fight?? David's post mortem said he put up a fight!

What motive did he have for killing David?

Nobody would leave blood on a guitar for over a week if they had been involved in a brutal murder