hobz Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 What makes you think that? The cops have video evidence he was in the area at the time, and he confessed. Like I said, what could they offer an innocent person to confess to murder? "Here's 1m baht. Lie and say you did it, oh, and you'll be executed by a firing squad next week, are you cool with that ? " Why am I not suprised a Burmese man got pulled in and forced to confess? This stinks of a set up. The international pressure on the police meant this was going to happen. Here's what I would have told him if i was in the position of the police that was trying to find a patsy .."We will kill you anyway,, but if you confess there's a chance you wont be executed.. plus we'll make sure your family is well off .. plus we will beat the shit out of you even more if you don't do as we say .. oh and did we mention that we can put you back in that rotten jail cell and just forget about you for a couple of years.. who's going to look for you? we own this place.. you'll just be a missing person.. anyone saying otherwise will be dealt with .. and oh ,, btw,, see this needle im holding? it's full of hiv .. you want that injected into you right now?? " And the police probably have more ways that i can't think of right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bander Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> This latest farang assault, rape, and murder needs a university study. What is it the draws Kampuchean and Burmese illegals to Siam in search of western prey? In almost every case of violence against western tourists, it's always the Burmese or Cambodians behind it. Golly, since the Thais are obviously pure as the driven snow, why not close the borders with Myanmar and Kampucha right now. Problem solved. If they close the borders and send every migrant worker home, who are they going to blame when it's a new rape and murder in the near future? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanBP Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Thai Police find a suspect who confesses and you still don't believe it. I know a thai person could not do these crimes. This is why we're suspicious....statements like your coming form Thai people...'I know a thai person could not do these crimes' - Thai people are capable of any crime like people from any other nation, you're not 'special' It reminds me that when I gently, and I emphasize 'gently', told a Thais doctor that her manner was offensive to to me she replied in typical Thai manner ' It is not possible for me to offend you, I am a Buddhist, we are trained not to offend people, you are mistaken, perhaps it is you who causes offence by speaking to a doctor this way' .......Ok, she got fired immediately and I got a new specialist. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warriorbangkok Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 It seems clear to me now that the 'village head' has spread some money around, and now this has been pinned on the immigrant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simondan Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Maybe, maybe not. One things for sure, when the pressure is on and no credible suspect has been identified, they always seem to suddenly find a Myanman or Cambodian lurking in the shadows. Maybe they really did it. Maybe they didnt. I doubt we will ever find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smotherb Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 I don't believe the confession. I don't believe the Brit guy and girl were having sex, or even together. She was dragged off and attacked, he ran to help, now that story makes sense. I believe it was a Thai related to the head man who is guilty, else why would they covered up for so long. I have been expecting a story from police along these lines: the UK girl had sex on the beach with two Asian men and the UK guy got jealous and attacked her with a hoe. The two Asians guys then killed the UK man in an attempt to defend and rescue the UK girl, but alas, they were too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon467367354 Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 it just seems the whole investigation took a turn when the "powerful village headsman" came up with a cash reward. I can't get around that. The Thai authorities openly admit to mafia and corruption IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnzoRippo Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Police conducts the DNA test using the recycled fake bomb detectors bought by the army a couple of years already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jucel Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Independent investigation absolutely necessary to confirm DNA results. Thai police simply cannot be trusted with something as imortant as this. Catching people not wearing motorbike helmets is one thing, condemning 3 people to a life behind bars or worse is another. Also what of the victims families if they are fobbed off with some convenient scapegoats ? The British goverment must demand an independent investigation to corroborate the RTP results. What do you think is more important to the British government, the lives of two of it's own citizens or a continued good relationship with Thailand? To me the answer to this is obvious. Britain will never put any serious pressure on Thailand over this. IMO, of course. When you travel overseas you are on your own. Not many people understand this, they think their country/embassy will protect them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy country Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 If this does not scream "Frame!" and "Patsy", I don't know. Dunno how many bones they have broken in that guy to make him sign this crap, but this is B S ! If anyone here has seen the uncensored crime scene photos (I unfortunately did), he/she knows that this was a hate crime. If a rape is the plan, a culprit would knock the guy out and the girl, but not destroy their skulls completely and beyond recognition (as with poor Hannah). If rape is the intitial motive, a rapist would not bash the victim's head into a mush (nothing there reminded of a person anymore, letting alone a girl), unless he is into necrophelia. Something went completely wrong there from day one onwards and it makes me wanna scream!!! Bashing David's and Hannahs heads into a bloody pulp was an act of hatred; of revenge. Someone lost his face (Thais tend to do that, not Burmese) and felt the need to show the white people who is in charge on that island. I feel so sorry for the victims and their families that words can hardly describe it. What a shame this whole case has become, what an insult to the words justice and to the human race itself... !00% agree, all out of likes today, so many in here who know what really goes on with the local mafia.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donutz Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 (edited) Is it impossible? No, but with all the fraud, blunders and other BS that we have seen in the past with Thai police "investigating" crimes, I'd be rather sceptical. Take the deaths of Sherry Ann Duncan (1986), Kirsty Jones (2000), Leo DelPinto (2008) and Koldijk (2012, Evil man from Krabi). Or various suicides by hanging of people with their hands tied behind their backs... is it imposible? No. But I'm sceptical. Could have been any entoxicated or person under the infuence of drugs, short fuess etc. who attacked these two tourists and raped the woman. The rapist(s) and murderer(s) do not even have to be the same person(s). So I remain sceptical unless an indepdant international third part confirms the evidence and can verify that the evidence itself has not been misplaced or tampered with... Thai Police find a suspect who confesses and you still don't believe it. I know a thai person could not do these crimes. Are you trolling, sarcastic or is it an ill attempt at humour? Any person of any race, nationality, religion, social class, proffesion, age etc. could commit crimes such as these (murder, rape, ...). Edited October 2, 2014 by Donutz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taony Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 This sucks big time. Unfortunately TV was right all along and justice is not served yet again. I'd rather they called it suicide, at least three innocent people wouldn't be in jail and their families back home left without breadwinners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bander Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Thai Police find a suspect who confesses and you still don't believe it. I know a thai person could not do these crimes. So tell me why Thai jails is full of rapists and murderers, are all from Burma and Cambodia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benw10 Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Thai Police find a suspect who confesses and you still don't believe it. I know a thai person could not do these crimes a thai person could not do these crimes. are you for real? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emilymat Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Is not the General - sorry PM - currently on a visit to Burma?. We arrest them, they can serve time in Burma, families get a hand out and everyone is happy. Surely not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieseldave1951 Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Three days to an (1) person arrest ------2hrs later no 2 days (1) person to an arrest --------no no arrest to day three people Burmeese not Thai how pridictable was this Thailand has spoken and we must belive this,after all he has confessed so it must be true, no need for DNA because they have probaly beaten it out of him or used drugs How can anyone belive the ludicrous statement given the farcicle way this has been investigated This apperent confession now needs verification by and independant force NOT Thai, I think as the victims were UK citizens it should be the UK police, then aand only then can this be seen to be true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roamer Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 It's true that the Thai police force tend to jump to conclusions and are blinkered in their outlook. A characteristic shared by many posters here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soiyamoto Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 I was unfortunate to see photo of what they did to that poor beautiful young lady (facebook)it was horrific .hopefully the truth will come out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nativealien Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Thai Police find a suspect who confesses and you still don't believe it. I know a thai person could not do these crimes. no What about the Thai doctor that killed his wife and hacked up her body? And, only served 6 years!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunPer Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 I don't believe the confession. I don't believe the Brit guy and girl were having sex, or even together. She was dragged off and attacked, he ran to help, now that story makes sense. I believe it was a Thai related to the head man who is guilty, else why would they covered up for so long. I’m afraid AnotherOneAmerican’s theory sounds more plausible than the news story – however, there may be details we don’t know, like the DNA-test of the Head-of-Village family member(s) did not match; think the news never mentioned a DNA-test, only about some alibi proven up he was up BKK... But further news or press conference tomorrow may unveil everything... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmer Gantry Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 lol who writes these stories? so poorly edited As a newbie I suggest you stay off this topic as you are just showing your moronic ignorance,now go crawl back under your self made cesspit where you belong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevepompey Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Again poor policing A confession like this is thin evidence. Needs verification with MORE evidence. These police officers are fools and the headman has organized it. Sham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhizBang Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Total horseshit. An obvious scapegoat. No motive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyFeet Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 (edited) FYI everyone, Thai people seem to be in agreement with this thread that this is a setup. The Khaosod facebook post in Thai about the arrests has over 500 (EDIT: 5000) comments. I expanded it to show 500 and did a search. The word แพะ appears 173 times. แพะ is the Thai word for goat, and also has the same English meaning as scapegoat. Thai people are on the short end of police corruption and incompetence way more than foreigners. They know what's going on here. Edited October 2, 2014 by SandyFeet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycallahan Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 So many here seem convinced this is another police frame-up. Can someone please provide any links to stories where the Thai police have a history of framing innocent people in a capital murder case? In the USA, if a cop did that, they'd be eligible for the death penalty in some states. I'm new to Thailand, so I'd really like to know. Thanks. This is an excellent start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Bradley Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Police chief Somyos rushes to Samui following suspect's confession BANGKOK: -- Police Commissioner General Pol Gen Somyos Pumphanmuang is leaving Bangkok for Koh Tao at 5 pm Thursday after a Myanmar worker "confessed" he killed two British tourists on the island. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/Police-chief-Somyos-rushes-to-Samui-following-susp-30244631.html Why has Nation Multimedia put quotation marks around the word CONFESS? Are they trying to suggest something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garet Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 I don't believe the confession. I don't believe the Brit guy and girl were having sex, or even together. She was dragged off and attacked, he ran to help, now that story makes sense. I believe it was a Thai related to the head man who is guilty, else why would they covered up for so long. Fortunately, the investigation won't follow the whims of forum posters who assume it's a cover up. Let's see what the DNA tests show. Perhaps it really was this foreign worker and his friends. They already investigated others, including Thais. Thais have been convicted of killing foreigners many times in the past, so to assume the police want to protect Thais is perhaps taking this conspiracy theory too far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy country Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 KOH TAO MURDERS Myanmar worker confesses killing British tourists The Nation KOH TAO: -- A Myanmar worker has confessed killing two British tourists on Koh Tao in Surat Thani, acting Deputy Police Commissioner General Pol Gen Jakthip Chaijinda said Thursday. Following the confession, Police Commissioner General Pol Gen Somyos Pumphanmuang rushed to Koh Tao at 5 pm Thursday to get prepared for holding a press conference Friday. According to a source from the investigation team, the worker was identified as Win, 21. He worked at a bar on Koh Tao. The source said Win was taken into custody and detained pending DNT test along with two other Myanmar workers - Maw, 23, and Saw, 21. Maw and Saw were captured on Koh Tao while Win on the mainland of Surat Thani. Police are waiting for DNT test results to match those found on cigarette but and other evidences at the scene. Maw told police that he played guitar on the beach and smoked the cigarette but he returned home and knew nothing about the murder. But Win later admitted that he saw the two tourists having sex so he made the attack with a plan to rape the woman. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Myanmar-worker-confesses-killing-British-tourists-30244632.html -- The Nation 2014-10-02 DNT results??? So not only is it a stitch up, now the Danish National Trekkers decide whether he's guilty by evidence. haha, well spotted, pretty sure DNT stands for do not tell, they briefed and payed the Patsy and he passed the Do not tell test...Case solved!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilsonandson Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 B o y c o t t --- K o. T a o Hannah Witheridge and David Miller deserve real justice. We shall never forget this unjust, corrupt case and we all know who did this. Until Mon and Worat are behind bars we shall forever boycott your gangster run island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerbalEd Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 how did they make them confess? beating? torture? e-shock? threat of familyß Read the entire story again. The police didn't make "them" confess. According to the story, only one of them confessed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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