Popular Post webfact Posted October 9, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 9, 2014 Reforms to Be Unbiased, Except Against 'People Like Thaksin': NRC MemberJermsak Pinthong reported for duty as a member of the National Reform Council on 8 Oct 2014.BANGKOK — A prominent member of the recently-formed National Reform Council (NRC) says the reform process will benefit all Thais, except those like former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra “who abuse their power.”"'The drafting of the Constitution needs to produce long-term benefits without bias against any individual, but if the drafting is meant to prevent people who abuse their power - people like Thaksin - from entering politics, it can be done," Jermsak Pinthong said yesterday."Personally, I intend to reform the power wielded by the state, especially the aspect of election," he added, without elaborating on the details.Jermsak is a staunch anti-Thaksin critic and former leader of the protest group that staged street demonstrations against Thaksin's sister, former PM Yingluck Shinawatra, for seven months until the military intervened and staged a coup on 22 May.Other core leaders of the protest movement, such as Naowarat Pongpaiboon, Sombat Thamrongthanyawong, and Charas Suwanmala, were also appointed by the junta to join the NRC.The NRC has been tasked with implementing sweeping reforms over the next year before a national election is held, schedueld for October 2015 at the earliest. This "roadmap to democracy," as the junta calls it, closely resembles the former anti-government protesters' demands for "reforms before election."Many Redshirts and critics of the coup say the NRC's membership was lockspec, or rigged by the junta to create a body bent on eliminating Thaksin's influence from Thai politics.Full story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1412844878§ion=11&typecate=06 -- Khaosod English 2014-10-09 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Suriya4 Posted October 9, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 9, 2014 So not all men are equal. And the law cannot be universally applied. No wonder Thaksin is the only one in Thailand who have to pay capital gain tax from selling SHIN shares. He deserves it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Snig27 Posted October 9, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 9, 2014 In other words, the endgame is pre-determined. What a facade and a joke. 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post h90 Posted October 9, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 9, 2014 So not all men are equal. And the law cannot be universally applied. No wonder Thaksin is the only one in Thailand who have to pay capital gain tax from selling SHIN shares. He deserves it. I like laws that are biased against people who are corrupt, abuse of power, do vote buying and let kill 3000 people in his war against drugs.... You'll find out that most countries laws are biased against such people. Usually they even put them into jail.... 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StealthEnergiser Posted October 9, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 9, 2014 Excellent news Thaksin and his puppets are slowly being stopped , the Junta saved many lives by taking the control of the situation great to see strong steps being taken to avoid the same occuring again . 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thailand Posted October 9, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 9, 2014 So not all men are equal. And the law cannot be universally applied. No wonder Thaksin is the only one in Thailand who have to pay capital gain tax from selling SHIN shares. He deserves it. I like laws that are biased against people who are corrupt, abuse of power, do vote buying and let kill 3000 people in his war against drugs.... You'll find out that most countries laws are biased against such people. Usually they even put them into jail.... Yes, we can't have laws applying equally to all. Whatever next, democracy? 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Snig27 Posted October 9, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 9, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> So not all men are equal. And the law cannot be universally applied. No wonder Thaksin is the only one in Thailand who have to pay capital gain tax from selling SHIN shares. He deserves it. I like laws that are biased against people who are corrupt, abuse of power, do vote buying and let kill 3000 people in his war against drugs.... You'll find out that most countries laws are biased against such people. Usually they even put them into jail.... Most democracies hope that people are at least slightly informed - and if if you think that the war on drugs and the death toll from it were solely Thaksin's responsibility and that others a little closer to the current power centre played no role, you've just failed that test. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tbthailand Posted October 9, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 9, 2014 Reforms to Be Unbiased, Except Against 'People Like Thaksin': NRC Member or in other words, "Reforms to be biased" "Personally, I intend to reform the power wielded by the state, especially the aspect of election," said like the true anti-democrat he is. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post h90 Posted October 9, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 9, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> So not all men are equal. And the law cannot be universally applied. No wonder Thaksin is the only one in Thailand who have to pay capital gain tax from selling SHIN shares. He deserves it. I like laws that are biased against people who are corrupt, abuse of power, do vote buying and let kill 3000 people in his war against drugs.... You'll find out that most countries laws are biased against such people. Usually they even put them into jail.... Most democracies hope that people are at least slightly informed - and if if you think that the war on drugs and the death toll from it were solely Thaksin's responsibility and that others a little closer to the current power centre played no role, you've just failed that test. It was Thaksin who ordered it and who also was proud of it. And it was the POLICE not the army who did it. The current power is not the police. And his numerous cases of corruption were solely his responsibility. Which means neither that the current government is good or bad. It means that Thaksin did many bad things. 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ramrod711 Posted October 9, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 9, 2014 "'The drafting of the Constitution needs to produce long-term benefits without bias against any individual, but if the drafting is meant to prevent people who abuse their power - people like Thaksin - from entering politics, it can be done," Jermsak Pinthong said yesterday. Good for Jermsak, addressing the issue directly and honestly, basically saying " there is no way that runaway,crooked, self serving, bag of crap is going to run this country from Dubai". Jermsak, my hero. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JAG Posted October 9, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 9, 2014 Sutheps mates and backers really have got everything they wanted haven't they! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petercool Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 A crude derogatory post removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Robby nz Posted October 9, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 9, 2014 It will be bias against those who commit crime, corruption or election fraud regardless of who they are. That Thaksin has done all of these only make him a great example. There were clauses in both previous constitutions barring those with criminal records from being MP's or senators but still those, like for instance Jutaporn and Weng and others who were on bail for serious charges, managed to be made MP's. It is obvious therefor that there needs to be changes made to stop this in the future and to stop any other convicted criminal on the run from running a Government. Another recently mentioned change is to abolish the statute of limitations for political crime, a good move which should be extended to other crimes as well, think red bull. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Sutheps mates and backers really have got everything they wanted haven't they! with cherry on top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post robblok Posted October 9, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 9, 2014 Sutheps mates and backers really have got everything they wanted haven't they! Yes they did.. and the beauty of it is that without Thaksins push for his amnesty this would never have happened. I bet the guy hates himself for over reaching. I bet quite a few red lovers here on the forum will be sad for many months to come. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Robby nz Posted October 9, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 9, 2014 Sutheps mates and backers really have got everything they wanted haven't they! And Thaksin got the coup that he pushed so hard for, an effort that cost so many lives. But unfortunately for him and fortunately for the country the army was awake to him and prevented the next step of the plan to bring out the armed element of the reds to create a civil war. He has been outthought at every step of the way and now people "Like him" note the like, no matter who they are, once new measures are put in place, will no longer be able to cheat the country. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
love1012 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Ohhhhhhhhh its not fair democracy is for wanted criminal theif murderers too!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiamondKing Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 So Basically anyone who supports THAKSIN which is the majority of thai people who voted him and his family in MULTIPLE TIMES lol Yep sounds unbiased to me LOL Its a Joke just like the Koh Tao Fiasco 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robespiere Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> So not all men are equal. And the law cannot be universally applied. No wonder Thaksin is the only one in Thailand who have to pay capital gain tax from selling SHIN shares. He deserves it. I like laws that are biased against people who are corrupt, abuse of power, do vote buying and let kill 3000 people in his war against drugs.... You'll find out that most countries laws are biased against such people. Usually they even put them into jail.... Most democracies hope that people are at least slightly informed - and if if you think that the war on drugs and the death toll from it were solely Thaksin's responsibility and that others a little closer to the current power centre played no role, you've just failed that test. It was Thaksin who ordered it and who also was proud of it. And it was the POLICE not the army who did it. The current power is not the police. And his numerous cases of corruption were solely his responsibility. Which means neither that the current government is good or bad. It means that Thaksin did many bad things. So now we all know that you are not at least slightly informed. Well done 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMHomeboy78 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 (edited) Sutheps mates and backers really have got everything they wanted haven't they! Yes, but minus Suthep. The situation is better now than it was before. What comes next is anybody's guess. Edited October 9, 2014 by CMHomeboy78 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiaranO Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 The law should be equal to all Thai citizen and I suspect this guy will disappear from the NRC very quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 "'The drafting of the Constitution needs to produce long-term benefits without bias against any individual, but if the drafting is meant to prevent people who abuse their power - people like Thaksin - from entering politics, it can be done," Jermsak Pinthong said yesterday." While I have nothing but contempt for thaksin and his acolytes who abused their time in power and were responsible for the extra judicial butchery that masqueraded as a war on drugs, likewise the economic ineptitude and criminal methods of rule that was PT, you can't bar "certain people" from power. Make them responsible for their anise of power, gaol them for their criminal actions, strip them of their ill gained wealth, yes. But you cannot bar people from standing for office because of their name or family. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunna Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 "'The drafting of the Constitution needs to produce long-term benefits without bias against any individual, but if the drafting is meant to prevent people who abuse their power - people like Thaksin - from entering politics, it can be done," Jermsak Pinthong said yesterday." While I have nothing but contempt for thaksin and his acolytes who abused their time in power and were responsible for the extra judicial butchery that masqueraded as a war on drugs, likewise the economic ineptitude and criminal methods of rule that was PT, you can't bar "certain people" from power. Make them responsible for their anise of power, gaol them for their criminal actions, strip them of their ill gained wealth, yes. But you cannot bar people from standing for office because of their name or family. I think what he is saying is not to ban just Shinawatras, but to make sure anyone who is a convicted criminal, no matter what colour their shirt is, will not only not be able to be in Government, but to also limit their influence on politics and the police. eg Thailand should never again have a PM, Parliament & Heads of Police and DSI who are answerable to a convicted criminal living overseas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
See the bears Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Bias against Thaksin, just as those who bemoaned the sale of Shicorp, but didn't batter an eyelid when deals of similar magnitude were done by CP & others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 "'The drafting of the Constitution needs to produce long-term benefits without bias against any individual, but if the drafting is meant to prevent people who abuse their power - people like Thaksin - from entering politics, it can be done," Jermsak Pinthong said yesterday." While I have nothing but contempt for thaksin and his acolytes who abused their time in power and were responsible for the extra judicial butchery that masqueraded as a war on drugs, likewise the economic ineptitude and criminal methods of rule that was PT, you can't bar "certain people" from power. Make them responsible for their anise of power, gaol them for their criminal actions, strip them of their ill gained wealth, yes. But you cannot bar people from standing for office because of their name or family. I think what he is saying is not to ban just Shinawatras, but to make sure anyone who is a convicted criminal, no matter what colour their shirt is, will not only not be able to be in Government, but to also limit their influence on politics and the police. eg Thailand should never again have a PM, Parliament & Heads of Police and DSI who are answerable to a convicted criminal living overseas If that's his intention, then that's fair enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuiburi Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Tired of reading the word democracy , its a lie whne it starts , give the general time . Governing a country needs people with dicipline and honour . The general has both and love for the country and its people . Time for all of us , Thai and foreignor to put effort in making Thailand a better place . Maybe its time that we "farangs " and Thais start to respect eachother and learn from eachother . We are all human beings living in the same country , there is no superiour race . excuse for my bad english . but good luck to all of us 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diplomatico Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 So much for 'reform' and 'true democracy'. Business as usual in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fab4 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 So not all men are equal. And the law cannot be universally applied. No wonder Thaksin is the only one in Thailand who have to pay capital gain tax from selling SHIN shares. He deserves it. I like laws that are biased against people who are corrupt, abuse of power, do vote buying and let kill 3000 people in his war against drugs.... You'll find out that most countries laws are biased against such people. Usually they even put them into jail.... kill 3000 people - Is there a universal law that dictates that the number of "war on drugs" deaths quoted is inversely proportional to IQ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fab4 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 (edited) Sutheps mates and backers really have got everything they wanted haven't they! Well bearing in mind that at least two of them are cabinet ministers, unfortunately that is not surprising. Edited October 9, 2014 by fab4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
englishoak Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 PFFT they dont even know the meaning of reform, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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