Koh Tao murders: Father swears his son is innocent

[freedom4life]

And this ...

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So why not a suspect?

[Baerboxer]

Well there are hundreds of protesters marching to Downing Street today.

When people are protesting in the streets, then it shows the general feeling in the UK.

More fuel for the press.... I wonder how Prayuth would take it knowing that there are protests on the streets because of Thai police corruption, and probably military government corruption to boot.

How does he think that reflects on Thailand on the world stage??

Basically.... You have been found out. This time it is NOT going to go away.

Milan fully clogged of Thais coming from all Europe to protest too. Hundreds of italians joined them. I though italians didn't care about Thailand much, but it is amazing the number of people on the streets.

Lot of wealthy Thai in Europe. Just take time off, travel to Milan, accommodation, food, loss of earnings, etc.

They must feel pretty strongly then to all spontaneously decide to do that

I know Milan pretty well having worked there. Which parts are "fully clogged" and how many demonstrators do you estimate clogged all of Milan?

Are you suggesting they are all protesting about the Police investigation into the horrific KT murders?

[CapGary]

I have decided to give up posting about this, or any other thread on here, it's really tiring now and I am so tired of -

- The Aussie's with their immense chip on the shoulder berating the 'whinging poms' when someone even mentions the UK

- The arrogant supercilious posters who reply with a cocky or rude comeback

- The repeat posts by those not reading earlier questions

- Those taking themselves waaaaaay too seriously

- back and forth mind numbing arguments that clog up entire pages

- the generalisations.

- the repeat posts by those not reading earlier questions.

- the lack of respect for other cultures.

- the Belgians, every single one of them.

Have at it!

Terrible post...except for the bit about the Belgians.....

[bkkstooge]

Don't know if this has been posted yet but was on Twitter 45 mins ago:

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-29655934?ocid=socialflow_twitter

[JOC]

Well there are hundreds of protesters marching to Downing Street today.

When people are protesting in the streets, then it shows the general feeling in the UK.

More fuel for the press.... I wonder how Prayuth would take it knowing that there are protests on the streets because of Thai police corruption, and probably military government corruption to boot.

How does he think that reflects on Thailand on the world stage??

Basically.... You have been found out. This time it is NOT going to go away.

Oh you poms are soooo important!!

In your dreams!

An horrific murder, by any standards, of two seemingly nice young people. Many lives ruined and affected.

Social media causing a frenzy, questionable police behavior, graphic crime scene photographs on the internet, people stirred to action and little closure or comfort for the bereaved families.

And your intelligent comment - a cheap racial slur based on your and your countries feelings of inadequacy. (The laughable Abbott continues in his quest to make the backward Australia look important on the world stage with announcements that Sir Les Patterson would be proud of).

Nobody gives a toss what your opinions of Britain are but try to show some respect for all the victims affected by this appalling crime.

Go and have a vegemite sandwich there's a good Brucie.

Hate to spoil your day, but I am not from Australia!!

Just getting tired of the British posters selfinflated opinion about their superiority, which turns many threads into pissing-contests! (Our army, our economy, Scotland Yard and so on)

This is not about the victims anymore, but about posters polishing their ego's to earn a few "likes" from likeminded posters taking part in the social media frenzy!

Btw. I am very saddened by the killing of the two young Brits.

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Well if the dirty rich family's son is truly the murderous SOB in this case then, regardless of the outcome of the current criminal case, they can be the subject of a wrongful death civil suit under Thai Civil Code statutes.

No use filing a civil suit against someone who is not in a position to be 'bound to make compensation' for a wrongful act.

Dang it. And there we all were, hoping for judicial reform ... an' that

[Mooner]

Has anyone seen any suggestion anywhere that either of the two accused is some kind of martial arts expert capable (as the RTP claims) of single handedly killing a much bigger and stronger opponent without suffering any injury himself?

HUH?

Hit by a massive blow to the head In a blitz attack and there is no fighting back.

If it was one hit to back of the head that done it why is there multiple wounds around the chin and right side of Davids face? Maybe done before? Well that would rule out the surprise attack from behind.

What im saying is that if he was hit from behind to take him out there would be no marks on his face unless he was being attacked by both men which would explain both types of injuries ( the blow to the back of head and the marks on davids face). The only thing is wouldn't Hannah be screaming her head off or running for help at this point??

[chrischronic]

Check out the new post on facebook from the Thai Community!

There is a new suspect who is employee of AC bar Nomsot and his uncle and seen with the victims.

He is of interest because

1.this man was one of the footballers who went to party at the AC bar which is the same night Hannah and David got murdered.

2.he had left Ko Tao immediately and came back after the Burmese men were arrested.

2. Has stingray tail ring that can inflict and seems to match the wounds suffered by David Miller, and Hannah Witheridge .. Pictures on CSI LA

3.This ring is seen in pictures on his left side hand... the wounds are mostly on Davids right side and suggest a series of left hand punches.

4. this man is of a size and build that may be able to overpower David.

4. This man was accused of trying to rape Supannee Deighton two years ago and escaped him by jumping from a balcony.. you can read her story

and see wounds she suffered .

Burmese workers on the island are also starting to speak up and say they saw The headman's son on the island drinking till 12am with Sean the night of the murders..

Im not saying this person did it or if what others say is true but it is worth looking at and forming your own opinion.

The police should be investigating all these leads there is picture evidence and in some areas expert testimony.. If the police were not covering up for someone they would be questioning and investigating all these leads.

Looks like the citizens are doing there job for them..

interesting but one point is wrong. this "suspect" wears the ring on his right hand not left hand. otherwise some good points.

Yes I did write this wrong.. This is why people need to research themselves because any one can say anything, but when you look at the pictures and connections you can help with a case by correcting the wrongs...

There is multiple cases that police investigators are using social media to solve crimes...just google it..... The fact that the Police are not using the connections and pictures brought up by social media shows there lack of really wanting to solve this case.

Thank you for pointing out my error..

[mango66]

Has anyone seen any suggestion anywhere that either of the two accused is some kind of martial arts expert capable (as the RTP claims) of single handedly killing a much bigger and stronger opponent without suffering any injury himself?

you try to get Thai boxing with the Bigger one !!

or you take a gun !!

In Thai you could call also the bad Ghost !!

[chrisinth]

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Look into the eyes of this ice cold mother#@$!r - I'd trust him as far as I could thrown a piano! And I think one of his famous garden tools is the hoe...

Pity he's not wearing his ring in the photo with the hoe, that would have really make him guilty before the facts..................

As for his eyes, looks like he has been on a bit of a bender., but everyone sees things differently. Makes me wonder where they dug that picture from to include in this compilation considering the implications of the hoe.

[mango66]

I wonder if Kent is passing on the strong message not to quote him, the Embassy or the British government without proper authority ?

Somehow i doubt it.

for me it seems your cameron and kent are " spineless bodys ""( weak, wobble pudding, like jelly fish )

( in my country we call people like this ),

so they dont want to get in clinch with this Super Power country and his military gvt ;

All help I think must come from civil courage of people like us and undependant news papers and TV;

It would be 100% different if hanna would have been a relative of the royals - even in 100 grade down !!

That is our society today , if we not try to change this !

[mango66]

Has anyone seen any suggestion anywhere that either of the two accused is some kind of martial arts expert capable (as the RTP claims) of single handedly killing a much bigger and stronger opponent without suffering any injury himself?

HUH?

Hit by a massive blow to the head In a blitz attack and there is no fighting back.

If it was one hit to back of the head that done it why is there multiple wounds around the chin and right side of Davids face? Maybe done before? Well that would rule out the surprise attack from behind.

What im saying is that if he was hit from behind to take him out there would be no marks on his face unless he was being attacked by both men which would explain both types of injuries ( the blow to the back of head and the marks on davids face). The only thing is wouldn't Hannah be screaming her head off or running for help at this point??

I think they drugged down Hanna for the rape,

so she were not really realicing what was going on,

therefore you also dont see any defence wounds on her hands or so;

Did they do a drug test on the victims ??

[cookee68]

Pathetic isn't it.

pathetic that every one presumes they are innocent, even if they are guilty they possibly believe they are innocent now, every one is starting to scream that they did not do it, and me as a father would say my son was innocent, because that is nature, I do not see a lot of evidence that they are innocent, only that they are guilty, I know they withdrew their confessions, but that was obvious with the amount off press and people saying they were innocent, lets see how it all pans out, and what the real evidence is against them, because if and I say if, they are guilty we will all look like dicks trying to get people off the charge of murder and rape, remember there are lots of people out there saying they are innocent who know nothing about the people or the case, just only what they have heard off a friend,

[minikev]

Look into the eyes of this ice cold mother<Deleted!>- I'd trust him as far as I could thrown a piano! And I think one of his famous garden tools is the hoe...

Catweazle where did the pic of the man with the hoe come from? I can't see it on csi is it the same man as pic on the left?

I'm not sure.

[Rykbanlor]

Well there are hundreds of protesters marching to Downing Street today.

When people are protesting in the streets, then it shows the general feeling in the UK.

More fuel for the press.... I wonder how Prayuth would take it knowing that there are protests on the streets because of Thai police corruption, and probably military government corruption to boot.

How does he think that reflects on Thailand on the world stage??

Basically.... You have been found out. This time it is NOT going to go away.

Oh you poms are soooo important!!

In your dreams!

An horrific murder, by any standards, of two seemingly nice young people. Many lives ruined and affected.

Social media causing a frenzy, questionable police behavior, graphic crime scene photographs on the internet, people stirred to action and little closure or comfort for the bereaved families.

And your intelligent comment - a cheap racial slur based on your and your countries feelings of inadequacy. (The laughable Abbott continues in his quest to make the backward Australia look important on the world stage with announcements that Sir Les Patterson would be proud of).

Nobody gives a toss what your opinions of Britain are but try to show some respect for all the victims affected by this appalling crime.

Go and have a vegemite sandwich there's a good Brucie.

Hate to spoil your day, but I am not from Australia!!

Just getting tired of the British posters selfinflated opinion about their superiority, which turns many threads into pissing-contests! (Our army, our economy, Scotland Yard and so on)

This is not about the victims anymore, but about posters polishing their ego's to earn a few "likes" from likeminded posters taking part in the social media frenzy!

Btw. I am very saddened by the killing of the two young Brits.

And what good will generalising do. I'm a Brit, I'm Scottish. I'm reasonably self aware as much as I don't believe I have an over-inflated opinion of myself or my country.

[TomJoad]

"Kent said media freedom came with responsibilities, adding that it was important for the media to observe professional ethics."

Princess Diana would have agreed. Tabloids observing such "professional ethics" in the West and all.

[CantSpell]

Look into the eyes of this ice cold mother<Deleted!> - I'd trust him as far as I could thrown a piano! And I think one of his famous garden tools is the hoe...

Catweazle where did the pic of the man with the hoe come from? I can't see it on csi is it the same man as pic on the left?

I'm not sure.

Man with the hoe I think is from Koh Tao (if I remember properly), that pic is already a a old thread on those same forums.

This pic was published a few days after the murders when some Island Residents started the "No sex on our beach" campaign....

That guy apparently found funny to take pic with the hoe few days after the murder...

[Jonmarleesco]

'... as a representative of British people to tell of an issue new [to the Thai media] regarding the violation of personal rights.' It's hardly new to the Thai media. And it most certainly isn't new to the British media.

[sambum]

This 'loving father' has zero credibility and is probably an accessory after the fact. If he is so sure his little didums is innocent, why not send off his DNA for testing in the UK? Then we will all believe it.

Maybe doesn't know how to, or more likely can't afford to. His Government had to pay to get him here, and look after him - how is he going to pay for expensive DNA testing? Ah, he could ask someone to do it on his behalf Any ideas?

[Greenhill]

The pic of the Ambassador of a democratic sovereign state and representative of the Queen of England & duly accredited to the Kingdom of Thailand, 'wai-ing' lower than a regular civil servant, pains me!!!! Why has he got no self-respect and demeans the whole UK, whom he represents!!

[KOZMO]

Has anyone seen any suggestion anywhere that either of the two accused is some kind of martial arts expert capable (as the RTP claims) of single handedly killing a much bigger and stronger opponent without suffering any injury himself?

What have you been smoking???? Must be an "ENTER THR DRAGON FAN" Sorry these two are not descendents og Bruce Lee

[KOZMO]

The pic of the Ambassador of a democratic sovereign state and representative of the Queen of England & duly accredited to the Kingdom of Thailand, 'wai-ing' lower than a regular civil servant, pains me!!!! Why has he got no self-respect and demeans the whole UK, whom he represents!!

Same as Obama bowing to the King of Saudi!!! No US president has ever done such a thing. Disgusting!

[KOZMO]

One dirty, rich family protecting it's son's murderous acts & in effect teaching their son that murder is ok is destroying a perfectly good & morally intact family.

It was so fast that the RTP dropped all comment and accusations which included the rich kids son wearing the shorts of the young brit on cctv as soon as

1 million BAHT showed up!!!!!!

[Varangkul]

I have decided to give up posting about this, or any other thread on here, it's really tiring now and I am so tired of -

- The Aussie's with their immense chip on the shoulder berating the 'whinging poms' when someone even mentions the UK

- The arrogant supercilious posters who reply with a cocky or rude comeback

- The repeat posts by those not reading earlier questions

- Those taking themselves waaaaaay too seriously

- back and forth mind numbing arguments that clog up entire pages

- the generalisations.

- the repeat posts by those not reading earlier questions.

- the lack of respect for other cultures.

- the Belgians, every single one of them.

Have at it!

You might like to add . "My dad's bigger than your dad" attitude!

[A1Str8]

No need to swear. Everybody knows it.

[mikiea]

Well if the dirty rich family's son is truly the murderous SOB in this case then, regardless of the outcome of the current criminal case, they can be the subject of a wrongful death civil suit under Thai Civil Code statutes.

No use filing a civil suit against someone who is not in a position to be 'bound to make compensation' for a wrongful act.

[mikiea]

wow, ambulance chaser are you ? for the thai peeps a ambo chaser is 2 levels above a pedo-butt man & 1 level below a arsonist. you have already convicted them? suks to be u

[freedom4life]

Look at the bureaucrat bowing...nice lunch and dinner meetings while living off the system, is pretty much what they're good at; chair/sofa sitting and pencil-pushing minions.

[JacChang]

If these two gets charged with murder, and the scums are not arrested.

I am going to North Korea and tearing my passport.

[freedom4life]

Mark Kent ? who the <deleted> is he, oh the British Ambassador another soft <deleted> like D Cameron Mr yesterdays man both talk the talk but CANNOT walk the walk

Agreed. Party-line puppets and useless living-off the system bureaucrats. Worse of them all are from commonwealth countries...you cannot obtain a position such as his, unless you have a Charlie Brown persona.