Bredbury Blue Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Worth a read http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stats-manchester-city-too-reliant-8919895 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 I think this figure has changed. To One. Since Sheikh Mansour bought City in the summer of 2008 not one English player developed by the club has started in the Premier League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbojangles Posted March 26, 2015 Author Share Posted March 26, 2015 I think this figure has changed. To One. Since Sheikh Mansour bought City in the summer of 2008 not one English player developed by the club has started in the Premier League. But we have won two prem titles, a FA Cup and a League Cup, ending 30+ yrs of misery for me. So quite frankly, I don't give a fig 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bredbury Blue Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 I think this figure has changed. To One. Since Sheikh Mansour bought City in the summer of 2008 not one English player developed by the club has started in the Premier League. But we have won two prem titles, a FA Cup and a League Cup, ending 30+ yrs of misery for me. So quite frankly, I don't give a fig Frankly, the best post on here of 2015 to date. Well said/done MrBojangles!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roo860 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 I think this figure has changed. To One. Since Sheikh Mansour bought City in the summer of 2008 not one English player developed by the club has started in the Premier League. But we have won two prem titles, a FA Cup and a League Cup, ending 30+ yrs of misery for me. So quite frankly, I don't give a fig Should be ashamed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 I think this figure has changed. To One. Since Sheikh Mansour bought City in the summer of 2008 not one English player developed by the club has started in the Premier League. But we have won two prem titles, a FA Cup and a League Cup, ending 30+ yrs of misery for me. So quite frankly, I don't give a fig So all those posts jerking off about your brilliant academy were all wind and piss then. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bredbury Blue Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 I think this figure has changed. To One. Since Sheikh Mansour bought City in the summer of 2008 not one English player developed by the club has started in the Premier League. But we have won two prem titles, a FA Cup and a League Cup, ending 30+ yrs of misery for me. So quite frankly, I don't give a fig Should be ashamed Of and why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bredbury Blue Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 I think this figure has changed. To One. Since Sheikh Mansour bought City in the summer of 2008 not one English player developed by the club has started in the Premier League. But we have won two prem titles, a FA Cup and a League Cup, ending 30+ yrs of misery for me. So quite frankly, I don't give a fig So all those posts jerking off about your brilliant academy were all wind and piss then. Just searched "academy" in this forum and couldn't find any such posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bredbury Blue Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Jeff and Jim...those were the days eh! http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/jeff-whitley-goes-football-car-8927417 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbojangles Posted March 27, 2015 Author Share Posted March 27, 2015 I think this figure has changed. To One. Since Sheikh Mansour bought City in the summer of 2008 not one English player developed by the club has started in the Premier League. But we have won two prem titles, a FA Cup and a League Cup, ending 30+ yrs of misery for me. So quite frankly, I don't give a fig Should be ashamed After due consideration and long soul searching, I have reached a conclusion. And you won't like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbojangles Posted March 27, 2015 Author Share Posted March 27, 2015 I think this figure has changed. To One. Since Sheikh Mansour bought City in the summer of 2008 not one English player developed by the club has started in the Premier League. But we have won two prem titles, a FA Cup and a League Cup, ending 30+ yrs of misery for me. So quite frankly, I don't give a fig So all those posts jerking off about your brilliant academy were all wind and piss then. It is a fantastic new facility and hopefully we will produce some good talent but sometimes you can't have your cake and eat it. If winning silverware was at the cost of not developing English players, then my statement stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 It is a fantastic new facility and hopefully we will produce some good talent but sometimes you can't have your cake and eat it. If winning silverware was at the cost of not developing English players, then my statement stands. Well the big question is will Dyke's draconian new laws force the big clubs to develop quality, highly professional English players or will we all be stuck with a bunch of English chavs are are more interested in the birds, booze and cars than a lengthy football career? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbojangles Posted March 27, 2015 Author Share Posted March 27, 2015 It is a fantastic new facility and hopefully we will produce some good talent but sometimes you can't have your cake and eat it. If winning silverware was at the cost of not developing English players, then my statement stands. Well the big question is will Dyke's draconian new laws force the big clubs to develop quality, highly professional English players or will we all be stuck with a bunch of English chavs are are more interested in the birds, booze and cars than a lengthy football career? I fear in the main, it will be the latter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 It is a fantastic new facility and hopefully we will produce some good talent but sometimes you can't have your cake and eat it. If winning silverware was at the cost of not developing English players, then my statement stands. Well the big question is will Dyke's draconian new laws force the big clubs to develop quality, highly professional English players or will we all be stuck with a bunch of English chavs are are more interested in the birds, booze and cars than a lengthy football career? Ahhh putting the great back in Britain! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roo860 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I think this figure has changed. To One. Since Sheikh Mansour bought City in the summer of 2008 not one English player developed by the club has started in the Premier League. But we have won two prem titles, a FA Cup and a League Cup, ending 30+ yrs of misery for me. So quite frankly, I don't give a fig Should be ashamed Of and why? Get home grown talent on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jellydog Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 It is a fantastic new facility and hopefully we will produce some good talent but sometimes you can't have your cake and eat it. If winning silverware was at the cost of not developing English players, then my statement stands. Well the big question is will Dyke's draconian new laws force the big clubs to develop quality, highly professional English players or will we all be stuck with a bunch of English chavs are are more interested in the birds, booze and cars than a lengthy football career? Therein lies the rub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bredbury Blue Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I think this figure has changed. To One. Since Sheikh Mansour bought City in the summer of 2008 not one English player developed by the club has started in the Premier League. But we have won two prem titles, a FA Cup and a League Cup, ending 30+ yrs of misery for me. So quite frankly, I don't give a fig Should be ashamed Of and why? Get home grown talent on the pitch. If home grown talent at any club isn't as good as talent in the team they don't get in. Not sure exactly what home grown talent at other Premier clubs we're supposed to be in awe of, like which players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I think this figure has changed. To One. Since Sheikh Mansour bought City in the summer of 2008 not one English player developed by the club has started in the Premier League. But we have won two prem titles, a FA Cup and a League Cup, ending 30+ yrs of misery for me. So quite frankly, I don't give a fig Should be ashamed Of and why? Get home grown talent on the pitch. If home grown talent at any club isn't as good as talent in the team they don't get in. Not sure exactly what home grown talent at other Premier clubs we're supposed to be in awe of, like which players? It's not as if it matters to you lot, if you see anyone you want you just tap them up through their agents, and dip into the Shaikh's pot of the Emirates people's gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bredbury Blue Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I think this figure has changed. To One. Since Sheikh Mansour bought City in the summer of 2008 not one English player developed by the club has started in the Premier League. But we have won two prem titles, a FA Cup and a League Cup, ending 30+ yrs of misery for me. So quite frankly, I don't give a fig Should be ashamed Of and why? Get home grown talent on the pitch. If home grown talent at any club isn't as good as talent in the team they don't get in. Not sure exactly what home grown talent at other Premier clubs we're supposed to be in awe of, like which players? It's not as if it matters to you lot, if you see anyone you want you just tap them up through their agents, and dip into the Shaikh's pot of the Emirates people's gold. See you didn't answer my query which was: what home grown talent at other Premier clubs are we supposed to be in awe of, like which players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilai Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 ^Jack Rodwell, Scott Sinclair etc etc....oh wait, that was a couple of years back. For now, Barkley and Sterling do ya? Mind you, given your recent fetish for Chiq's boys, may I suggest Coquelin and Gnabry might just be on the Sheik's radar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 ^Jack Rodwell, Scott Sinclair etc etc....oh wait, that was a couple of years back. For now, Barkley and Sterling do ya? Mind you, given your recent fetish for Chiq's boys, may I suggest Coquelin and Gnabry might just be on the Sheik's radar? I don't think they count as home grown any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I think this figure has changed. To One. Since Sheikh Mansour bought City in the summer of 2008 not one English player developed by the club has started in the Premier League. But we have won two prem titles, a FA Cup and a League Cup, ending 30+ yrs of misery for me. So quite frankly, I don't give a fig Should be ashamed Of and why? Get home grown talent on the pitch. If home grown talent at any club isn't as good as talent in the team they don't get in. Not sure exactly what home grown talent at other Premier clubs we're supposed to be in awe of, like which players? It's not as if it matters to you lot, if you see anyone you want you just tap them up through their agents, and dip into the Shaikh's pot of the Emirates people's gold. See you didn't answer my query which was: what home grown talent at other Premier clubs are we supposed to be in awe of, like which players? Oh do learn how to quote Blue. It doesn't matter who Manchester Dhabi buy, they just want the numbers, or to stop other teams getting players. Since when did the Shaikh worry about blowing a few quid on rubbish players? It's not his money, is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bredbury Blue Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I think this figure has changed. To One. Since Sheikh Mansour bought City in the summer of 2008 not one English player developed by the club has started in the Premier League. But we have won two prem titles, a FA Cup and a League Cup, ending 30+ yrs of misery for me. So quite frankly, I don't give a fig Should be ashamed Of and why? Get home grown talent on the pitch. If home grown talent at any club isn't as good as talent in the team they don't get in. Not sure exactly what home grown talent at other Premier clubs we're supposed to be in awe of, like which players? It's not as if it matters to you lot, if you see anyone you want you just tap them up through their agents, and dip into the Shaikh's pot of the Emirates people's gold. See you didn't answer my query which was: what home grown talent at other Premier clubs are we supposed to be in awe of, like which players? Oh do learn how to quote Blue. It doesn't matter who Manchester Dhabi buy, they just want the numbers, or to stop other teams getting players. Since when did the Shaikh worry about blowing a few quid on rubbish players? It's not his money, is it? Still avoiding answering my question I see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bredbury Blue Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 ^Jack Rodwell, Scott Sinclair etc etc....oh wait, that was a couple of years back. For now, Barkley and Sterling do ya? Mind you, given your recent fetish for Chiq's boys, may I suggest Coquelin and Gnabry might just be on the Sheik's radar? Your comment on Rodwell and Sinclair I didn't get, but the other 4, is that it? I'd agree Sterling (developed by QPR) is a huge talent and the scousers are lucky to have him, Barkley looked special but now the jury is out, Coquelin looks a talent since the turn of the year only but will it last (joined the Arse at aged 17 so developed by them or the french teams he was with before) and Gnabry has played a handful of games so bit early to say whether we should be in awe of Arsenal developing him (thought Arse bought him from a german team...see my comment on Colquelin). So in summary, only in awe of (QPR's or Liverpool's) Sterling...but where was his strike partner Sturridge developed? I'm expecting to get bombarded here with suggestions of players, worthy of a position in the current City or Chelsea team, who've been home developed by a Premier clubs own development scheme...so far we've got Sterling...and? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 But as I said, your chairman will go and buy anyone just to meet the criteria, even if he sticks them on the bench. That means any English player would be up for grabs. You're the ones that pay stupid money for players.I agree most of them aren't worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bredbury Blue Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 But as I said, your chairman will go and buy anyone just to meet the criteria, even if he sticks them on the bench. That means any English player would be up for grabs. You're the ones that pay stupid money for players. I agree most of them aren't worth it. Stick to the point that YOU raised that since Sheik M took over in 2008 only one english player developed by the club has featured in the Premier to which I have countered with what home grown talent at other Premier clubs are we supposed to be in awe of, like which players? My point is we are no different than any other team. We develop plenty of players who go on to feature for other clubs lower down but its difficult to develop talent good enough to get in the first team of international players. So go on then answer my question and prove me wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbojangles Posted March 28, 2015 Author Share Posted March 28, 2015 But as I said, your chairman will go and buy anyone just to meet the criteria, even if he sticks them on the bench. That means any English player would be up for grabs. You're the ones that pay stupid money for players. I agree most of them aren't worth it. Stick to the point that YOU raised that since Sheik M took over in 2008 only one english player developed by the club has featured in the Premier to which I have countered with what home grown talent at other Premier clubs are we supposed to be in awe of, like which players? My point is we are no different than any other team. We develop plenty of players who go on to feature for other clubs lower down but its difficult to develop talent good enough to get in the first team of international players. So go on then answer my question and prove me wrong. BB, if we just look at the England starting 11 last night, there isn't a single prem club who can claim to be a centre of excellence for developing home grown talent. 01 Hart - City since he was 19 and Shrewsbury before that 02 Clyne - Southampton for 2 years and developed at Palace 05 Cahill - Chelsea but developed at Villa 06 Jones - Man U but developed at Blackburn 03 Baines - Everton but developed at Wigan 04 Henderson - Liverpool but developed at Sunderland 08 Carrick - Man U but developed at West Ham and Spurs 11 Delph - Villa but developed at Leeds 07 Sterling - Liverpool but could be argued QPR developed him. 10 Rooney - Man U but developed at Everton 09 Welbeck - Arsenal but developed at Man U Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfieconn Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 But as I said, your chairman will go and buy anyone just to meet the criteria, even if he sticks them on the bench. That means any English player would be up for grabs. You're the ones that pay stupid money for players. I agree most of them aren't worth it. Stick to the point that YOU raised that since Sheik M took over in 2008 only one english player developed by the club has featured in the Premier to which I have countered with what home grown talent at other Premier clubs are we supposed to be in awe of, like which players? My point is we are no different than any other team. We develop plenty of players who go on to feature for other clubs lower down but its difficult to develop talent good enough to get in the first team of international players. So go on then answer my question and prove me wrong. BB, if we just look at the England starting 11 last night, there isn't a single prem club who can claim to be a centre of excellence for developing home grown talent. 01 Hart - City since he was 19 and Shrewsbury before that 02 Clyne - Southampton for 2 years and developed at Palace 05 Cahill - Chelsea but developed at Villa 06 Jones - Man U but developed at Blackburn 03 Baines - Everton but developed at Wigan 04 Henderson - Liverpool but developed at Sunderland 08 Carrick - Man U but developed at West Ham and Spurs 11 Delph - Villa but developed at Leeds 07 Sterling - Liverpool but could be argued QPR developed him. 10 Rooney - Man U but developed at Everton 09 Welbeck - Arsenal but developed at Man U The dippers won't like you saying that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 But as I said, your chairman will go and buy anyone just to meet the criteria, even if he sticks them on the bench. That means any English player would be up for grabs. You're the ones that pay stupid money for players. I agree most of them aren't worth it. Stick to the point that YOU raised that since Sheik M took over in 2008 only one english player developed by the club has featured in the Premier to which I have countered with what home grown talent at other Premier clubs are we supposed to be in awe of, like which players? My point is we are no different than any other team. We develop plenty of players who go on to feature for other clubs lower down but its difficult to develop talent good enough to get in the first team of international players. So go on then answer my question and prove me wrong. Have you even produced any English players that have gone on to play with other premier league clubs? My point is why bother when you can go out and buy who you like and pay them what you like? Why do you think Sagna isn't complaining about warming the bench on 100K a week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 The dippers won't like you saying that I always have a chuckle when I hear the tiny totts singing "he's one of our own" about Kane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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