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Thai news are showing happy farmers lining up at the agricultural bank to collect their 1000 Bht per rai subsidies being handed out by the Junta to rice farmers. These payments are up to 15 rai maximum so if you have 15 rai or more rice paddy you can pick up 15k Bht from the bank! Anyone benefitting from this?

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In general I am agains subsidies for farmers and such. But unlike the rice scam of the ptp this one is sustainable and targets the small farmers leaving out the big ones. So it really targets the right people. It also does not make people produce more rice (no quantity over quality) well thought out junta.

To bad for the land less farmers but you cant make everyone happy. Light-years ahead of the PTP.

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In general I am agains subsidies for farmers and such. But unlike the rice scam of the ptp this one is sustainable and targets the small farmers leaving out the big ones. So it really targets the right people. It also does not make people produce more rice (no quantity over quality) well thought out junta.

To bad for the land less farmers but you cant make everyone happy. Light-years ahead of the PTP.

Hi sorry you have it wrong it is for the man who works the land not for the lesser of the land but some of the Thais around me are sucking in the farmers who works the land and the money is to help out for next years rice but you see when a thai gets money for free he or she will spend it and I agree with you sibsidies is not great but it happen in the western world as will and I dont agree with it there as will , a farm will say he is poor when they have a bad year but when they have a very good year you never ever hear from them .

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Yep. The missus registered last week and was 'measured up' this week by a group of surveyors.

just waiting for the 15,000 Baht.

The wife got hers last week..tongue.png

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Seems only TV members with Thai wives/GF's into farming are entitled to read/post on this subject...

Anyway, GF had her brother register her rice field at the tessabaan in the hope to get 1k baht/rai, seems she as the title deed in her name can not claim the money.

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Yep. The missus registered last week and was 'measured up' this week by a group of surveyors.

just waiting for the 15,000 Baht.

The wife got hers last week..tongue.png

Seems to be paid out faster as the rice scheme biggrin.png

Someone said i was incorrect, that people who rent the land get it too.. I thought it was a thing only for the owners.. that being the only drawback in this scheme. Because then the landless and poor farmers are not helped. The capping at 15 rai is a good thing else the big (presumably richer) farmers get it too.

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Yep. The missus registered last week and was 'measured up' this week by a group of surveyors.

just waiting for the 15,000 Baht.

The wife got hers last week..tongue.png

Seems to be paid out faster as the rice scheme biggrin.png

Someone said i was incorrect, that people who rent the land get it too.. I thought it was a thing only for the owners.. that being the only drawback in this scheme. Because then the landless and poor farmers are not helped. The capping at 15 rai is a good thing else the big (presumably richer) farmers get it too.

Wifes Daughter rents 15 rie, and they will get it,when do not know,probaly spend it on fertilzer and fule for the Kwie Lec pumping water to try and get a dry season crop in.

Can not see the lodic of the subsidy,encouraging farmers to grow more, when they are millions of ton in stock from last year.

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this one is sustainable and targets the small farmers leaving out the big ones. So it really targets the right people.

The purpose of a business is to make a profit, not to become a burden to the tax payer. A farmer trying to raise a family on 8 rai rice plot is quite obviously a recipe for failure. In other countries a single family may have 1000 rai for tiny farm. Thailand must one day embrace economy of scale. This type of government program hurts the country and prevents it from developing which will create a longer and deeper level of poverty than it should have to bear.

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this one is sustainable and targets the small farmers leaving out the big ones. So it really targets the right people.

The purpose of a business is to make a profit, not to become a burden to the tax payer. A farmer trying to raise a family on 8 rai rice plot is quite obviously a recipe for failure. In other countries a single family may have 1000 rai for tiny farm. Thailand must one day embrace economy of scale. This type of government program hurts the country and prevents it from developing which will create a longer and deeper level of poverty than it should have to bear.

There are 20mn farmers and no social system in Thailand.

They can dress it up whichever way they like. In the developed world families receive than 15k in benefits for all sorts of things.

So call it a farmers benefit. Problem solved. Moaning that subsidies are somehow immoral when the option is that people starve and live in complete poverty isn't very constructive.

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this one is sustainable and targets the small farmers leaving out the big ones. So it really targets the right people.

The purpose of a business is to make a profit, not to become a burden to the tax payer. A farmer trying to raise a family on 8 rai rice plot is quite obviously a recipe for failure. In other countries a single family may have 1000 rai for tiny farm. Thailand must one day embrace economy of scale. This type of government program hurts the country and prevents it from developing which will create a longer and deeper level of poverty than it should have to bear.

There are 20mn farmers and no social system in Thailand.

They can dress it up whichever way they like. In the developed world families receive than 15k in benefits for all sorts of things.

So call it a farmers benefit. Problem solved. Moaning that subsidies are somehow immoral when the option is that people starve and live in complete poverty isn't very constructive.

Like with the 1000 baht they still wont be in poverty.........................lol.

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this one is sustainable and targets the small farmers leaving out the big ones. So it really targets the right people.

The purpose of a business is to make a profit, not to become a burden to the tax payer. A farmer trying to raise a family on 8 rai rice plot is quite obviously a recipe for failure. In other countries a single family may have 1000 rai for tiny farm. Thailand must one day embrace economy of scale. This type of government program hurts the country and prevents it from developing which will create a longer and deeper level of poverty than it should have to bear.

There are 20mn farmers and no social system in Thailand.

They can dress it up whichever way they like. In the developed world families receive than 15k in benefits for all sorts of things.

So call it a farmers benefit. Problem solved. Moaning that subsidies are somehow immoral when the option is that people starve and live in complete poverty isn't very constructive.

And who many of those farmers living in complete poverty, are going to use all, or part of they subsidie on a deposit for a new motorbike that thay do not need, or can afford.

There is a Thai saying Har Wun Ginn Wun,or think one day at a time,which is a true for a lot of Thai farmers.

One day money management will arrive in Thailand ,untill then a farmers lot will not improve ,to much much relience on Tor- Kor- Sor, BAAC.

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this one is sustainable and targets the small farmers leaving out the big ones. So it really targets the right people.

The purpose of a business is to make a profit, not to become a burden to the tax payer. A farmer trying to raise a family on 8 rai rice plot is quite obviously a recipe for failure. In other countries a single family may have 1000 rai for tiny farm. Thailand must one day embrace economy of scale. This type of government program hurts the country and prevents it from developing which will create a longer and deeper level of poverty than it should have to bear.

There are 20mn farmers and no social system in Thailand.

They can dress it up whichever way they like. In the developed world families receive than 15k in benefits for all sorts of things.

So call it a farmers benefit. Problem solved. Moaning that subsidies are somehow immoral when the option is that people starve and live in complete poverty isn't very constructive.

And who many of those farmers living in complete poverty, are going to use all, or part of they subsidie on a deposit for a new motorbike that thay do not need, or can afford.

There is a Thai saying Har Wun Ginn Wun,or think one day at a time,which is a true for a lot of Thai farmers.

One day money management will arrive in Thailand ,untill then a farmers lot will not improve ,to much much relience on Tor- Kor- Sor, BAAC.

not unlike in the West, where the social security, unemployment, and whatever benefits never been sent to alcohol, cigarette, gambling, and such...

personally I think the best would be to give this 1000thb/rai in credit to buy fertilizer, seed, or pay for tractor work/harvesting...

yet I think all should agree this is still a lot better way to distribute money than buying rice an inflated price.

not to mention, big shots cant smuggle 15 rai plots in from Cambodia.

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this one is sustainable and targets the small farmers leaving out the big ones. So it really targets the right people.

The purpose of a business is to make a profit, not to become a burden to the tax payer. A farmer trying to raise a family on 8 rai rice plot is quite obviously a recipe for failure. In other countries a single family may have 1000 rai for tiny farm. Thailand must one day embrace economy of scale. This type of government program hurts the country and prevents it from developing which will create a longer and deeper level of poverty than it should have to bear.

There are 20mn farmers and no social system in Thailand.

They can dress it up whichever way they like. In the developed world families receive than 15k in benefits for all sorts of things.

So call it a farmers benefit. Problem solved. Moaning that subsidies are somehow immoral when the option is that people starve and live in complete poverty isn't very constructive.

Like with the 1000 baht they still wont be in poverty.........................lol.

15000 baht can feed a family for several months in the village.

Would you prefer not to give them any assistance. ?

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Girlfriend hadn't heard about this so rushed down to farmers office to get the forms then had to find the local headman and get him to stand next to her at the land with the rice crop as the background for a photo then to the photo shop to get it printed,back to the office to hand in the forms with a copy of the chanote and the photo.Now just waiting for the money to come through.

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