webfact Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Ebola outbreak: NY doctor Craig Spencer tests positive(BBC) A New York doctor who recently returned from Ebola-hit Guinea in West Africa has tested positive for the disease.Dr Craig Spencer, who treated Ebola patients while working for the charity Medecins Sans Frontieres (MSF), came down with a fever on Thursday, days after his return, officials say.He is the first Ebola case diagnosed in New York, and the fourth in the US.More than 4,800 people have died of Ebola - mainly in Liberia, Guinea and Sierra Leone - since March.Dr Spencer, 33, left Guinea on 14 October, and returned to New York City on 17 October via Europe. On Tuesday he began to feel tired and developed a fever and diarrhoea on Thursday.Full story: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-29751495-- BBC 2014-10-24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thailiketoo Posted October 24, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 24, 2014 The Doctor said he quarantined himself but still took the subway and went bowling. What a bunch of buffalo sh**. The authorities say he was not contagious because he had no symptoms but they have locked down his apartment and are trying to get in touch with anyone who was on the subway with him or jogged with him.How dumb do they think people are? Self quarantine does not mean jogging, subway rides and going bowling. They should put the dummy in quarantine is jail. He is a doctor who treated Ebola patients!!!! What a nut case. Do the authorities in NYC not now know this guy is a loon...... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 He thought he would not come down with it. Hope springs eternal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Bob Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Anyone who should have know better he should have. What a stupid move on his part. The government should have also done something with a person in his position returning here and not be quartine 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attrayant Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 (edited) The Doctor said he quarantined himself Can you quote where it says this in the linked report. Edited October 24, 2014 by attrayant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDGRUEN Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 August WHO report... The doctor adds to the lengthening list... http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/766871-us-ebola-patient-thomas-duncan-dies-in-hospital/page-14#entry8576881 To date, more than 240 health care workers have developed the disease in Guinea, Liberia, Nigeria, and Sierra Leone, and more than 120 have died. And other WHO links relative to the virus and disease... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lite Beer Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 New York confirms first Ebola case, world ralliesNEW YORK (AFP) - A doctor who recently returned to New York from treating Ebola patients in Guinea tested positive for the deadly virus on Thursday, the first confirmed case in the United States' largest city.The doctor, Craig Spencer, was placed in isolation at Manhattan’s Bellevue Hospital Center earlier Thursday after suffering Ebola symptoms including a 103-degree Fahrenheit (39.4 Celsius) fever and nausea.New York Mayor Bill de Blasio confirmed Spencer’s positive test at a late-night press conference, but urged residents not to panic, insisting the city was fully prepared to stop the disease in its tracks."We want to state at the outset, (this) is no reason for New Yorkers to be alarmed. Ebola is an extremely hard disease to contract. It is transmitted only through contact with an infected person’s blood or other bodily fluids," said de Blasio.New York Governor Andrew Cuomo said city officials had already identified four people believed to have crossed paths with Spencer, and said he did not expect a repeat of the situation in Dallas, where hospital staff appeared to have been caught off-guard by the arrival of the disease that has killed almost 4,900 people in West Africa."Dallas was caught before they could really prepare. We had the advantage of learning from their experience," he said. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/New-York-confirms-first-Ebola-case-world-rallies-30246166.html -- The Nation 2014-10-24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klauskunkel Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 no reason for New Yorkers to be alarmed. Ebola is an extremely hard disease to contract. it is so hard to contract that mostly doctors and nurses seem to catch it in the west... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcusd Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 So hard to get that thousands have now died within months. Doctors are not certain if their are mutant strains the cannot control. Refer to nightly news aljazeera and Asia news and sky news. It's hot topic and very frightening. Ps what happened to the 179 people on air France in Spain last week? That has gone awfully quiet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Health workers are at risk at contact with fluids from infected people showing symptoms. I think the subway people are OK unless he was vomiting or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 So hard to get that thousands have now died within months. Doctors are not certain if their are mutant strains the cannot control. Refer to nightly news aljazeera and Asia news and sky news. It's hot topic and very frightening. Ps what happened to the 179 people on air France in Spain last week? That has gone awfully quiet The reality of it is bad enough in Africa. What's the purpose of jazzing up scare tactics about things that haven't happened yet and probably never will? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailiketoo Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 The Doctor said he quarantined himself Can you quote where it says this in the linked report. While authorities said Spencer attempted to self-quarantine after feeling ill, and Bassett noted he took his temperature twice a day, he went on a 3-mile run and was at a pair of bowling spots in Willliamsburg, Brooklyn, on Wednesday. He took subways — the 1, A and L lines — went to the High Line and a restaurant and took an Uber cab home, officials said. http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/doctor-treated-ebola-patients-rushed-bellevue-fever-article-1.1984941 I was listening to CNN in Thailand as I was writing and heard it on there. I would think NYC papers have better information than the BBC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JDGRUEN Posted October 24, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 24, 2014 So hard to get that thousands have now died within months. Doctors are not certain if their are mutant strains the cannot control. Refer to nightly news aljazeera and Asia news and sky news. It's hot topic and very frightening. Ps what happened to the 179 people on air France in Spain last week? That has gone awfully quiet The reality of it is bad enough in Africa. What's the purpose of jazzing up scare tactics about things that haven't happened yet and probably never will? I think what generates fearful talk of the spread of Ebola - which becomes not much more than rumors... is the total resistance by some so called Western government leaders to stop the entrance of residents of the Ebola ridden countries into Western Countries. People around the world know that it is counter-intuitive to not stop issuing visas to these people... But these pontificated presidents and pm's know better than the mere citizens. In short STOP allowing residents of Sierra Leone, Guinea and Liberia from entering other countries by stopping issuance of visas. And make quarantine of returning Ebola Aid Workers mandatory ... When these two things are done - the rumor mill and the under the surface panic will take a deep dive... But politically correctness will prevail and so will Ebola. Note - the doctor in discussion passed the screening test - had he been subjected to a humane 21 day quarantine ... this item would not be in the news as it is ... but a rather calm report about how a returning brave doctor who went valiantly into West Africa to help others has come down with Ebola while in quarantine... No one else was in contact with the doctor since his return except trained and protected health workers ... Let us all rally and wish him well in his treatment and recovery. This is what the story should be - but it isn't ... people all over New York have to be checked out -- followed up on ... money - money - money - money spent... people unnecessarily worried about their future health, etc, etc. All because of FAILURE of LEADERSHIP at the TOP LEVELS. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attrayant Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Hard to piece together a timeline from that story. But he seems to have felt okay up until Thursday morning. Since he self-quarantined "after feeling ill", I read that as a fancy way of saying that he stayed home all morning until the paramedics took him to Bellevue around noon. The socializing was done the previous evening while he was still asymptomatic. I would still be concerned about anyone he had close personal contact with (girl friend, et al.) the previous night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAMHERE Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 These doctors without borders are not gonna rest until they get Ebola without borders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkcanuck8 Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Assuming this doctor survives ebola, his medical license should be revoked for unethical behaviour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 His licensed should be revoked for treating the sick? When he showed symptoms, he took action. That is the responsible thing to do. Ebola is not contagious before you show signs of illness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDGRUEN Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 (edited) This article is an excellent account of what has happened to people who have appeared in the U.S. with Ebola after arriving and /or acquired it from someone who brought it into America from West Africa ... concise and accurate ... a helpful piece of information ... NYC Ebola Patient Is Ninth Case In America. Here's What Happened To The Other Eight. http://www.forbes.com/sites/dandiamond/2014/10/23/nyc-ebola-patient-is-ninth-case-in-america-heres-what-happened-to-the-other-eight/ Edited October 24, 2014 by JDGRUEN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attrayant Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Assuming this doctor survives ebola, his medical license should be revoked for unethical behaviour. Perfect match between avatar & post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post F430murci Posted October 24, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 24, 2014 For sure these docs and health care workers need to isolated for 21 days upon their return from treating Ebola sickened individuals in impacted areas. Snyderman was supposed to be in isolation, so why not this doctor. Holy cow, I cannot believe I actually voted for Obama. He is a spineless, pandering wimp. I once thought he was smart, but now I am starting to believe he simply was a good orator with an even better speech writer. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 The key to this is education and it seems to be working. The disease is not all that easy to catch. Of the people who were closest to Duncan, including his girlfriend, none of them contracted Ebola. Health care workers seem to be at the highest risk, but they are also the people with the greatest chance of coming in contact with bodily fluids over a period of time. The President is hardly responsible for the fact that some people are slipping through the net. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeeya Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 just putting it out there. but i dont give a flying hoot about ebola. This is the biggest crock of ..... It'll blow over and then we'll be onto the next one, I heard its a new crocodile super flu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attrayant Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Obama should fence-off Florida immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 So hard to get that thousands have now died within months. Doctors are not certain if their are mutant strains the cannot control. Refer to nightly news aljazeera and Asia news and sky news. It's hot topic and very frightening. Ps what happened to the 179 people on air France in Spain last week? That has gone awfully quiet The reality of it is bad enough in Africa. What's the purpose of jazzing up scare tactics about things that haven't happened yet and probably never will? I think what generates fearful talk of the spread of Ebola - which becomes not much more than rumors... is the total resistance by some so called Western government leaders to stop the entrance of residents of the Ebola ridden countries into Western Countries. People around the world know that it is counter-intuitive to not stop issuing visas to these people... But these pontificated presidents and pm's know better than the mere citizens. You are like a badly broken record. The reason they don't want to block people from travelling is that then they have no way of tracking them if they go another route. Plus it does not work to stop the spread of the virus. Can you please stop regurgitating this nonsense as if it's some kind of good idea, just because you heard on the Alex Jones show that their neighbours have banned them and have armed troops ready to kill them if they try and cross the border. It is a load of tripe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F430murci Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 The key to this is education and it seems to be working. The disease is not all that easy to catch. Of the people who were closest to Duncan, including his girlfriend, none of them contracted Ebola. Health care workers seem to be at the highest risk, but they are also the people with the greatest chance of coming in contact with bodily fluids over a period of time. The President is hardly responsible for the fact that some people are slipping through the net. He is the captain of the ship when it comes to the nations safety and welfare. Breakdowns here are his responsibility for the lack of clear, unequivocal directives. He kind of tip toes around things and always leaves am out or wiggle room presumably so he does not step on someone's toes. That is bad leadership when it comes to issues of national safety. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 So hard to get that thousands have now died within months. Doctors are not certain if their are mutant strains the cannot control. Refer to nightly news aljazeera and Asia news and sky news. It's hot topic and very frightening. Put simply these news channels are talking mostly rubbish and want your continued custom. There is nothing to be frightened about, you face a higher risk of death leaving your abode and crossing the road. Does that scare you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 The key to this is education and it seems to be working. The disease is not all that easy to catch. Of the people who were closest to Duncan, including his girlfriend, none of them contracted Ebola. Health care workers seem to be at the highest risk, but they are also the people with the greatest chance of coming in contact with bodily fluids over a period of time. The President is hardly responsible for the fact that some people are slipping through the net. He is the captain of the ship when it comes to the nations safety and welfare. Breakdowns here are his responsibility for the lack of clear, unequivocal directives. He kind of tip toes around things and always leaves am out or wiggle room presumably so he does not step on someone's toes. That is bad leadership when it comes to issues of national safety. Perhaps if they could get a Surgeon General confirmed then the captain would have a first mate during these medically-difficult times, but that might be too much for Congress to approve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDGRUEN Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 I have just viewed using several sources a video of NYC police officers discarding rubber gloves and masks after leaving the apartment of the Ebola patient Dr. Spencer - placing the possibly contaminated articles into a sidewalk open trash container... Seems the lessons of Dallas Texas and Ebola are not being learned or passed on ... I cannot post a link to this video because of excessive protectionism of the video where it is mixed into an array of still photos and videos making a clear link to view it nearly impossible ... Hopefully a clear - clean link will surface. However - what I viewed shows a continuation of ignorance beyond any reason for people who are supposed to be trained to protect the public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDGRUEN Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 The key to this is education and it seems to be working. The disease is not all that easy to catch. Of the people who were closest to Duncan, including his girlfriend, none of them contracted Ebola. Health care workers seem to be at the highest risk, but they are also the people with the greatest chance of coming in contact with bodily fluids over a period of time. The President is hardly responsible for the fact that some people are slipping through the net. The so called president of the United States of America will not institute a ban on issuing visas to people of the Ebola stricken West African Nations to visit America.. obama is most certainly responsible for the initial and continued entrance of Ebola infected people into America. Similarly - obama WILL NOT institute a mandatory 21 day quarantine for returning Americans who have served valiantly in the fight against Ebola in West Africa -- BUT who should never the less be quarantined by Federal order anyway... This is not an example of leadership --- it is an example of the old fashioned phrase 'COP OUT' or rather simply put - evading the responsibilities of the Office of the President of the United States. Most likely done to be Politically Correct or Expedient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailiketoo Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 I have just viewed using several sources a video of NYC police officers discarding rubber gloves and masks after leaving the apartment of the Ebola patient Dr. Spencer - placing the possibly contaminated articles into a sidewalk open trash container... Seems the lessons of Dallas Texas and Ebola are not being learned or passed on ... I cannot post a link to this video because of excessive protectionism of the video where it is mixed into an array of still photos and videos making a clear link to view it nearly impossible ... Hopefully a clear - clean link will surface. However - what I viewed shows a continuation of ignorance beyond any reason for people who are supposed to be trained to protect the public. You should have heard CNN trying to explain that away today when it was breaking news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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