Gweiloman Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 I predict that shortly there will be a ban on mentioning his name or posting articles about him here on TVF ? That would be grand! I agree, the sight of Thaksin's face makes me want to puke, and the mention of his name reminds me of dead alleged drug dealers who weren't given an opportunity to go to the Olympics....and not return. Ever tried not reading any threads where his name and/or family name is not mentioned? Or maybe you like puking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robespiere Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 (edited) "You do realise that this is the last coup?" That's what they said about the coup before last coup. "When an un-bastardised version democracy returns to Thailand, which it will, there will most likely be at least a decade of Shinawatra governments before they get voted out." I'd wait for it to happen in the West first. "Thaksin is going to be in the news an awful lot - get used to it." He will be when the PM says he can be. Get used to it. Edited to say: I typed very slowly so that you would get it. Heads up - the speed at which you type does not affect the speed at which I read. (It takes intelligence to be facetious, so I know that's not the case with your edited remarks) No thanks required for the guidance, I'm always happy to help those with intellectual limitations. Edited November 3, 2014 by Robespiere 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gweiloman Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 I agree, the sight of Thaksin's face makes me want to puke, and the mention of his name reminds me of dead alleged drug dealers who weren't given an opportunity to go to the Olympics....and not return. But that's different, they were only drug runners and he (Thaksin) was one of our beloved ex PM's Alleged drug runners, ex judicial executions, no trials. Democracy and justice a la Shin. Strange how you adopt a different stance with respect to the KT murders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Newspapers care about advertisers. Big business is worried about how much money the General has been spending on, of all things, populist policies and the complete lack of planning as to how the spending is going to be funded and ultimately paid back without entirely destroying the economy. In addition to the spending, many of the Generals reforms (foreign business ownership) his image (only ugly girls should wear bikinis) and his lack of leadership in fighting corruption (Koh Toa murders / microphones) is decimating inflows of international capital (investments / tourism). Economy in the tank = no profits for big business = no advertising dollars for newspapers This is why The Nation is now starting to reverse its unquestioning support of the coup.... self preservation. Uhm, the populist policies are funded from budgets allocated in the National Budget with a few years more the same necessary allocation. Normal in most countries. Of course if you think that Big Business rather has 'self-financing schemes' like the RPPS for which the taxpayer happily funds 107 billion Baht per year the next seven years, one may wonder how much more happy they would be if the current government could spent that money rather than use it to pay back what the previous government spent. Anyway, with what some call 'draconian' censorship it would seem that 'self preservation' calls for a different type of reporting. May be the censorship in place isn't that draconian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chotthee Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Thaksin is synonym with corruption. To fight corruption, we have to fight Thaksin. To stop corruption, we have to stop Thaksin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokemachine Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 "If someone is facing lawsuits, the media should avoid reporting anything about him because when they do, questions arise as to why the government would not take action against him." The media should not be focusing in a fugitive anymore. But back to what Mr PM has said, we are indeed very curious to know why the government would not take action against the fugitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robespiere Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Thaksin is synonym with corruption. To fight corruption, we have to fight Thaksin. To stop corruption, we have to stop Thaksin. So it was Thaksin who overpaid for the microphones and framed the two Burmese boys? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gweiloman Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Thaksin is synonym with corruption. To fight corruption, we have to fight Thaksin. To stop corruption, we have to stop Thaksin. So it was Thaksin who overpaid for the microphones and framed the two Burmese boys? Also, I didn't realise that there was no corruption in Thailand until Thaksin became PM. Since he is now out of the picture, I guess there is no more corruption in Thailand either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peptidebomber Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 "If someone is facing lawsuits, the media should avoid reporting anything about him because when they do, questions arise as to why the government would not take action against him." The media should not be focusing in a fugitive anymore. But back to what Mr PM has said, we are indeed very curious to know why the government would not take action against the fugitive. That's a great point, if the General really wanted to stop corruption he would try and get him extradited as he is a fugitive. It would be seen as a great move by the majority of the nation. Is corruption, and fixing the country his real objective? If the Thaksin Regime was so corrupt and criminal why has no one been brought to justice for these crimes (if they really wanted him here in jail he would be)! I wish the General would do something drastic to solve these problems, but history shows (and his assets) that things won't change under military control. They have always been a part of the corruption problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisY1 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 They're all a part of the Thai elite.....all rich and connected....all from the same mold.........none will be incarcerated......none will be called to justify themselves. And....the last thing Prayuth would want, is Thaksin arriving on the doorstep......... But, as someone mentioned....some at the Nation love him! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Lawrence Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 In any event I think the General has problems that are not being reported on because of martial law? A lot of media reports that are being presented lately appear to be contradicted by another report a few days later. Sounds more like a kid that hasn't taken their Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder meds, or this guy sounds worried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robespiere Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Thaksin is synonym with corruption. To fight corruption, we have to fight Thaksin. To stop corruption, we have to stop Thaksin. So it was Thaksin who overpaid for the microphones and framed the two Burmese boys? Also, I didn't realise that there was no corruption in Thailand until Thaksin became PM. Since he is now out of the picture, I guess there is no more corruption in Thailand either. If you're going to talk the talk, you've also got to walk the walk. The General has got the talking bit down pat, it's the walking bit that he's not doing so well in. Now that Thaksin is gone has there been even the slightest of drops in corruption - no, I'm sure time will show it's been quite the opposite and the microphones are just the tip of the ice berg. Only fools bought the corruption story and only fools of the highest order still buy the corruption story. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stone Inscription 1 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 (edited) Yes, follow Thaksin and Yingluck on Twitter and Facebook instead. 555+ Edited November 3, 2014 by metisdead Font reset to default forum font. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peptidebomber Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Thaksin is synonym with corruption. To fight corruption, we have to fight Thaksin. To stop corruption, we have to stop Thaksin. I love the irony in your posts chotthee, and reading the replies of people who take the bait is always amusing :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Posts referring to Thailand or the government as a dictatorship, military dictatorship or other such terms have been removed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rijb Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Thaksin is good for the news business. Just ask ThaiVisa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jesimps Posted November 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 3, 2014 This, in addition to already erasing Thaksin from kids school books, national reconciliation indeed. The General is both envious and jealous of Thaksin. "The main difference between envy and jealousy is that envy is an emotion related to coveting what someone else has, while jealousy is the emotion related to fear that something you have will be taken away by someone else." Envious of Thaksin's enduring mega popularity. Jealous that Thaksin will, in due course, take back government. Ban, censor, suppress, threaten, harass, assault, demean, belittle and trample on the people as much as you like, this all only ends one way, with Thaksin Shinawatra back in the big chair and a great many Generals whiling away the hours in inactive posts. Bomb, cheat, lie, steal, murder, mismanage the funds of the electorate and burn the Capital. Tell your Storm troops that you will be right there with them on the streets of Bangkok....but don't show up, add cowardice to his list of crimes. That Thaksin has the power to endear himself to the weak minded. It's gonna bu@@er up this forum for you and several other rabid junta maniacs if you have no mention of Thaksin to vent your spleen at. Almost feel sorry for you. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod711 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> I predict that shortly there will be a ban on mentioning his name or posting articles about him here on TVF ? That would be grand! alt=whistling.gif> I agree, the sight of Thaksin's face makes me want to puke, and the mention of his name reminds me of dead alleged drug dealers who weren't given an opportunity to go to the Olympics....and not return. If you think that Thaksin was the only one involved in that you really have not paid any attention all. Names a little closer to the current seat of power were just as complicit. Nice of you to admit that he was involved at all, I was beginning to think that he could do no wrong, according to your posts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjag Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 This, in addition to already erasing Thaksin from kids school books, national reconciliation indeed. The General is both envious and jealous of Thaksin. "The main difference between envy and jealousy is that envy is an emotion related to coveting what someone else has, while jealousy is the emotion related to fear that something you have will be taken away by someone else." Envious of Thaksin's enduring mega popularity. Jealous that Thaksin will, in due course, take back government. Ban, censor, suppress, threaten, harass, assault, demean, belittle and trample on the people as much as you like, this all only ends one way, with Thaksin Shinawatra back in the big chair and a great many Generals whiling away the hours in inactive posts. Bomb, cheat, lie, steal, murder, mismanage the funds of the electorate and burn the Capital. Tell your Storm troops that you will be right there with them on the streets of Bangkok....but don't show up, add cowardice to his list of crimes. That Thaksin has the power to endear himself to the weak minded. It's gonna bu@@er up this forum for you and several other rabid junta maniacs if you have no mention of Thaksin to vent your spleen at. Almost feel sorry for you. Most of us will get on pretty much as we used to do. Most of us would not normally even mention Shins etc, but are baited with anti PM propaganda that brings out this Bad comparison and Shins brought back to compare----hadn't you noticed ?? Surely you don't think that the majority of TVF will have un savory posts re Thaksin every day, most are not interested much UNTIL !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realenglish1 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Lesson one in Democracy. There should be no fear about what the media reports as long as it is truthful People can decide for themselves what is worth their attention or not . The government should not say what they believe is or is not news worthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Local Drunk Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 "You do realise that this is the last coup?" That's what they said about the coup before last coup. "When an un-bastardised version democracy returns to Thailand, which it will, there will most likely be at least a decade of Shinawatra governments before they get voted out." I'd wait for it to happen in the West first. "Thaksin is going to be in the news an awful lot - get used to it." He will be when the PM says he can be. Get used to it. Edited to say: I typed very slowly so that you would get it. Heads up - the speed at which you type does not affect the speed at which I read. (It takes intelligence to be facetious, so I know that's not the case with your edited remarks) No thanks required for the guidance, I'm always happy to help those with intellectual limitations. "Heads up - the speed at which you type does not affect the speed at which I read." Interesting. I was worried more about your ability to comprehend what I had typed so very very slowly. "(It takes intelligence to be facetious, so I know that's not the case with your edited remarks)" You missed what the point of my edit... and I typed it very very slowly. "No thanks required for the guidance, I'm always happy to help those with intellectual limitations." As opposed to uneducated, inexperienced, thoughtless knee jerk reactions about how a culture different than your own has any relevance in a modern society? By the way... You only addressed my edit and avoided the rest. Next time I won't edit, just to try your intellect a bit. Very sloppy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOC Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Getting worse by the minute!! Just got this from news on my phone: Prime Minister Prayuth: Security authorities are finding out measures to calm down problematic opponents and maintain order to facilitate national solutions Wonder if Thaivisa posters are considered "problematic opponents?? Anyhow, scary stuff...................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peptidebomber Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Getting worse by the minute!! Just got this from news on my phone: Prime Minister Prayuth: Security authorities are finding out measures to calm down problematic opponents and maintain order to facilitate national solutions Wonder if Thaivisa posters are considered "problematic opponents?? Anyhow, scary stuff...................... This is not necessarily a bad thing, calming down opponents and maintaining order is to be commended. Stifling free speech and eradicating opposition is what would be worrying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiguzzi Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Says it all really. Post WW II the Germans were still taught about Adolf and what happened. Here, the Good General decides to wipe Thaksin History from the schoolbooks. It aint gonna work now or in the long term. Lotta pissed off people in the North and NE. A common thing i hear is "biding our time" and "quietly waiting"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post blaze Posted November 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 3, 2014 Getting worse by the minute!! Just got this from news on my phone: Prime Minister Prayuth: Security authorities are finding out measures to calm down problematic opponents and maintain order to facilitate national solutions Wonder if Thaivisa posters are considered "problematic opponents?? Anyhow, scary stuff...................... No doubt we are-- this should come as no surprise-- the previous coup assigned itself the task of simply redoing a Thaksin proof constitution. It didn't work-- now we have the new lot with a new mandate: create a perfectly harmonious society. Anything less will put to question- what was the coup for if all that was accomplished was the clean up of a few beaches. Even the new constitution can not be guaranteed 'thaksin proof'. To the General's credit, he understands that the roots of the problem are not Thaksin-- but the opposition to the 'system'-- and that Thaksin is simply the current leader of the opposition- that after Thaksiin is dead and gone, the oppositon will remain. Hence his (genuine, I believe) desire to improve the lot of the poor. (and at the same time, bring them into the fold -= that they never again challenge the god given right of the establishement to run the show). Expect more tightening of the screws-- and more rumbling in the underground-- it's a viscious circle-- and a very dangerous one. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiesilver Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Ofcourse he doesnt want the Media to do their job This is a military dicatorship - not a democracy - different rules apply here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Enemy of the state!!images646958_22_11_Thaksin.jpg stop showing that picture, now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 "The media should not publish pictures of anyone who has violated the law. Why have they reported it?" Prayut said. whadda buffoon - but at least he is making the transition from General and using the imperative to 'PM' and using the conditional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaze Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Says it all really. Post WW II the Germans were still taught about Adolf and what happened. Here, the Good General decides to wipe Thaksin History from the schoolbooks. It aint gonna work now or in the long term. Lotta pissed off people in the North and NE. A common thing i hear is "biding our time" and "quietly waiting"... Yes-- and I have hard core yellow friends - sino Thai- Silom road - in Bangkok-- and they now are saying the same thing- to be honest, I was surprised. (at their naivity as much as anything). I asked one- 'you won- so why the yellow shirt now?' He sneered, 'we won nothing-- we wait and see''. (I suppose they expected- perhaps some of their more vocal supporters on this forum can enlighten us-- that the coup would hand power over to the PDRC - immediately.! and recognized that it was Suthep- and none other that has saved gthe nation! Reconciliation? man -- this will be one for the books by the time it has played out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 This, in addition to already erasing Thaksin from kids school books, national reconciliation indeed. The General is both envious and jealous of Thaksin. "The main difference between envy and jealousy is that envy is an emotion related to coveting what someone else has, while jealousy is the emotion related to fear that something you have will be taken away by someone else." Envious of Thaksin's enduring mega popularity. Jealous that Thaksin will, in due course, take back government. Ban, censor, suppress, threaten, harass, assault, demean, belittle and trample on the people as much as you like, this all only ends one way, with Thaksin Shinawatra back in the big chair and a great many Generals whiling away the hours in inactive posts. Bomb, cheat, lie, steal, murder, mismanage the funds of the electorate and burn the Capital. Tell your Storm troops that you will be right there with them on the streets of Bangkok....but don't show up, add cowardice to his list of crimes. That Thaksin has the power to endear himself to the weak minded. It's gonna bu@@er up this forum for you and several other rabid junta maniacs if you have no mention of Thaksin to vent your spleen at. Almost feel sorry for you. Most of us will get on pretty much as we used to do. Most of us would not normally even mention Shins etc, but are baited with anti PM propaganda that brings out this Bad comparison and Shins brought back to compare----hadn't you noticed ?? Surely you don't think that the majority of TVF will have un savory posts re Thaksin every day, most are not interested much UNTIL !!!! Most of us would not normally even mention Shins 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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