NLA accepts lawyers' plea to defer Yingluck's impeachment proceedings

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NLA accepts lawyers' plea to defer Yingluck's impeachment proceedings
The Nation

BANGKOK: -- The National Legislative Assembly (NLA) yesterday voted to postpone impeachment proceedings against former prime minister Yingluck Shinawatra after her lawyers insisted that she needed enough time to prepare her defence as indicated in the NLA meeting protocol.

Yingluck's three lawyers were present at the NLA meeting to explain why they wanted the first round of impeachment proceedings to be deferred by 30 days.

NLA president Pornpetch Wichitcholchai said the National Anti-Corruption Commission (NACC) had delivered the copy of the writ to the NLA on October 14, and that copies of the writ had been distributed among NLA members on October 28.

He added that officials had been instructed to contact Yingluck's lawyers to tell them that the write had been delivered to her, but her legal team said she had not returned from an overseas trip. He then went on to say that he had copies of the writ delivered to Yingluck's home twice - on October 29 and November 7 - and both times somebody had signed to receive the documents.

However, the former PM's lawyer Anek Kamchum said that in accordance with NLA's meeting protocols, the NACC writ should be delivered to the accused at least 15 days before the first meeting on the impeachment proceedings are held. The first such meeting was scheduled to be held yesterday.

He also pointed out that Yingluck had returned to Thailand on November 2, so she did not have enough time to prepare her defence. He said that if the documents were delivered to Yingluck on November 7, as claimed by the NLA president, then she would only have five days to study the 3,870 pages of the writ.

He also called on the NLA president to allow Yingluck's legal team to make copies of the 3,870 pages, even though they were classified documents.

Four NLA members, including Saowanee Suwannacheep and Monthian Buntan, took to the floor asking the lawyers why they did not contact Yingluck while she was overseas to alert her about this development, especially since the news had been widely covered by the media.

Norwit Lalaeng, another member of Yingluck's team of lawyers, said that according to the NLA meeting protocols, the defendant has to receive the documents officially, not be informed over the phone.

The NLA voted 167:16, with seven abstentions, to defer the first meeting of the impeachment proceedings to November 28 as proposed by the NLA whip secretary Somchai Swangkarnwith.

Pornpetch said Yingluck's lawyers would be allowed to copy all the 3,870 pages of the writ, provided the copying was done only during official hours.

The NACC has accused Yingluck of failing to stem corruption and massive losses in the rice-pledging scheme as well as intentionally breaching Article 178 of the 2007 Constitution, Article 11 of the State Administration Act, Article 58 of the Constitution Organic Law on Prevention and Suppression of Corruption Act.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/NLA-accepts-lawyers-plea-to-defer-Yinglucks-impeac-30247651.html


-- The Nation 2014-11-13

[Bluespunk]

"Money and corruption are ruining the land, crooked politicians betray the working man, pocketing the profits and treating us like sheep, and we're tired of hearing promises that we know they'll never keep."

Ray Davies

[RustBucket]

The lawyers may be getting a little wriggle room on deferring the inevitable, but it won't make a jot of difference to the outcome.

She is toast. She won't even read the massive writ, she wouldn't even understand it. She is an airhead.

The lawyers already had all this, it is those who will be doing the scrutinizing and providing the defence, she is merely the puppet.

If and when she is impeached I hope the NACC then push for criminal prosecution of gross criminal negligence. She after all AWARDED herself the job of chairperson of the scam scheme, and pretty much claimed the salary and refused to do the job at ANY level.

She stole that salary and allowed Thailand to lose over 700 Bn baht in the process.

20 years prison might straighten her out, all her acolytes with her.

[jaidam]

Here we go again. Justice getting fenestrated in all orifices, next up is another financial announcement about a ridiculously wealthy policeman's portfolio expansion. He really has the Midas touch.

[Mango Bob]

For all you who complain about given her time to prepare think back to the Airport blockage by the Yellow terrorist who have been dragging this case out for years.

[Robby nz]

I see the lawyers conveniently forgot about the Oct 29 date.

Is it the fault of the NLA that Yingluck decided she must go on an overseas trip at that time and did she not stay longer than planned, must they adjust their schedule for a defendant ?

I see she got less than the 30 asked for, more days to think up another excuse to not attend.

[The stuttering parrot]

This is a blow for the yellows on here yet another set back because Yingluck and her team are just to smart for this lot.

Bumping her up the list and rushing to get something anything other is just showing the bias towards yingluck and the PTP.

The fact is she is just to popular and the peoples choice and this mob have no idea what to do about it because the backlash at the polls is already going to sweep the PTP back into power and if she's the leader the yellows will be decimated.

Hence the targeting while those before are on the very very back burner .

[ChrisY1]

The lawyers may be getting a little wriggle room on deferring the inevitable, but it won't make a jot of difference to the outcome.

She is toast. She won't even read the massive writ, she wouldn't even understand it. She is an airhead.

The lawyers already had all this, it is those who will be doing the scrutinizing and providing the defence, she is merely the puppet.

If and when she is impeached I hope the NACC then push for criminal prosecution of gross criminal negligence. She after all AWARDED herself the job of chairperson of the scam scheme, and pretty much claimed the salary and refused to do the job at ANY level.

She stole that salary and allowed Thailand to lose over 700 Bn baht in the process.

20 years prison might straighten her out, all her acolytes with her.

You obviously have little understanding of how the Thai justice system works for people of her status.......

[ramrod711]

Norwit Lalaeng, another member of Yingluck's team of lawyers, said that according to the NLA meeting protocols, the defendant has to receive the documents officially, not be informed over the phone.

But obviously the lawyers can inform her of the documents over the phone. I don't even know why they're dodging and avoiding the inevitable, she will be impeached and receive a ban, but like the rest of the family she will never do time. This country will never change until someone with money and influence goes to jail.

[ginjag]

For all you who complain about given her time to prepare think back to the Airport blockage by the Yellow terrorist who have been dragging this case out for years.

Oh yeah, bad as it was for Tourism, it wasn't 1 trillion Baht worth of blockage. There was a message in the airport blockage, what message was there in Yinglucks case ?? cheat, rob Thailands coffers.

[ginjag]

This is a blow for the yellows on here yet another set back because Yingluck and her team are just to smart for this lot.

Bumping her up the list and rushing to get something anything other is just showing the bias towards yingluck and the PTP.

The fact is she is just to popular and the peoples choice and this mob have no idea what to do about it because the backlash at the polls is already going to sweep the PTP back into power and if she's the leader the yellows will be decimated.

Hence the targeting while those before are on the very very back burner .

She is popular with those who are part of the 1 trillion loss.

[kamahele]

It's a plausible scenario. It just pushes the inevitable to a later date.

[Pierrefun]

For all you who complain about given her time to prepare think back to the Airport blockage by the Yellow terrorist who have been dragging this case out for years.

Three days in a row, you make the same post:

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/775425-yingluck-summoned-to-appear-at-nla-on-november-12-for-delayed-impeachment-request/?view=findpost&p=8652977

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/775720-ex-pm-yinglucks-impeachment-hearing-tentatively-postponed/page-2#entry8659230

and for three days in row, they have been replied to:

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/775425-yingluck-summoned-to-appear-at-nla-on-november-12-for-delayed-impeachment-request/?view=findpost&p=8654265

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/775720-ex-pm-yinglucks-impeachment-hearing-tentatively-postponed/page-2#entry8660099

As yet, all have gone unanswered.

Perhaps today is the forum lucky day and you will address your inconsistency and hypocrisy.

Or not.

.

Edited November 13, 2014 by Pierrefun

[Commerce]

Come on guys... fair dues when due... she's ONLY had 10 MONTHS.

[Pierrefun]

I see the lawyers conveniently forgot about the Oct 29 date.

Is it the fault of the NLA that Yingluck decided she must go on an overseas trip at that time and did she not stay longer than planned, must they adjust their schedule for a defendant ?

I see she got less than the 30 asked for, more days to think up another excuse to not attend.

She has had good family coaching.

eg. her sister-in-law requested the court delay a hearing against her because she was seeking medical treatment in Singapore for a headache.

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Thaksin_ordered_back_to_Thailand_on_stock-sale_charges

eg. her nephew requested a delay in his court hearing so that he could complete his vacation in Japan.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2006/12/26/headlines/headlines_30022565.php

[boomerangutang]

Just part of the 'delay of justice' game which rich and important people play. Here are some others, besides, 'DELAY'

>>> put on monks robes

>>> claim to be too old or infirm

>>> run off to another country

>>> claim it was someone else in charge

>>>> Claim, (as an excuse by some of Thaksin's former Ministers): when indicted: "Oh, that happened when I was Minister of __fill in the blanks__, but since I'm no longer Minister, then there's no malfeasance."

[chainarong]

The defence now has their wishes granted , no more deferrals , you have no more excuses , prepare your brief in response and lets proceed with fairness and without fear , get this case over and done with.

[Thanet]

For all you who complain about given her time to prepare think back to the Airport blockage by the Yellow terrorist who have been dragging this case out for years.

Oh yeah, bad as it was for Tourism, it wasn't 1 trillion Baht worth of blockage. There was a message in the airport blockage, what message was there in Yinglucks case ?? cheat, rob Thailands coffers.

Apart from your usual soundbites, you don't seem to know much about economics. Most governments run deficits these days. That doesn't mean that they have pocketed the cash themselves.

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/

How do explain that Yingluck and Prayuth both have a similar net worth - around 600 million Baht each? Prayuth's army salary was 117,000 Baht per month. Yingluck's corrupt, but Prayuth's a good saver, right?

[ginjag]

For all you who complain about given her time to prepare think back to the Airport blockage by the Yellow terrorist who have been dragging this case out for years.

Oh yeah, bad as it was for Tourism, it wasn't 1 trillion Baht worth of blockage. There was a message in the airport blockage, what message was there in Yinglucks case ?? cheat, rob Thailands coffers.

Apart from your usual soundbites, you don't seem to know much about economics. Most governments run deficits these days. That doesn't mean that they have pocketed the cash themselves.

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/

How do explain that Yingluck and Prayuth both have a similar net worth - around 600 million Baht each? Prayuth's army salary was 117,000 Baht per month. Yingluck's corrupt, but Prayuth's a good saver, right?

Your economics are not bright when you call Yinglucks "mistake-I did not do wrong" a Quote "deficit" 1 trillion ??

If you want to put on the table where the money came from --Yingluck/prayuth then do otherwise it is not your business.

Thailands peoples money is the concern here NOT your explanation.

[Thanet]

For all you who complain about given her time to prepare think back to the Airport blockage by the Yellow terrorist who have been dragging this case out for years.

Oh yeah, bad as it was for Tourism, it wasn't 1 trillion Baht worth of blockage. There was a message in the airport blockage, what message was there in Yinglucks case ?? cheat, rob Thailands coffers.

Apart from your usual soundbites, you don't seem to know much about economics. Most governments run deficits these days. That doesn't mean that they have pocketed the cash themselves.

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/

How do explain that Yingluck and Prayuth both have a similar net worth - around 600 million Baht each? Prayuth's army salary was 117,000 Baht per month. Yingluck's corrupt, but Prayuth's a good saver, right?

Your economics are not bright when you call Yinglucks "mistake-I did not do wrong" a Quote "deficit" 1 trillion ??

If you want to put on the table where the money came from --Yingluck/prayuth then do otherwise it is not your business.

Thailands peoples money is the concern here NOT your explanation.

I'll repeat the question:

How do explain that Yingluck and Prayuth both have a similar net worth - around 600 million Baht each?

[Mango Bob]

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For all you who complain about given her time to prepare think back to the Airport blockage by the Yellow terrorist who have been dragging this case out for years.

Oh yeah, bad as it was for Tourism, it wasn't 1 trillion Baht worth of blockage. There was a message in the airport blockage, what message was there in Yinglucks case ?? cheat, rob Thailands coffers.

we are talking about foot dragging here. why change the subject. plus the cost keeping going up and up every time you post. time you take a few days off of TV and relax and gain your senses back. but of course this is a typical yellow tactic to change the subject when it don't suit them.

[rickirs]

It's very entertaining to see how something so blase can be spun completely away from reallity by TV readers. It's one reason I read TV as much as I do the comics.

Yingluck's attorneries request the NLA follow its own protocols. The NLA votes and agrees to follow its protocols. Yingluck gets 15 more days to review the charges as per protocol. In itself hardly blockbuster news. No conspiracy, no collusion, no conflict of interest - boring news.

Thank goodness for TV readers!

[ginjag]

Your economics are not bright when you call Yinglucks "mistake-I did not do wrong" a Quote "deficit" 1 trillion ??

If you want to put on the table where the money came from --Yingluck/prayuth then do otherwise it is not your business.

Thailands peoples money is the concern here NOT your explanation.

I'll repeat the question:

How do explain that Yingluck and Prayuth both have a similar net worth - around 600 million Baht each?

It is off topic----not your or my business. unless you know where they received the wealth then print it.

So I'll put the question to you ON TOPIC, how is she going to get out of the DEFICIT ???

[rametindallas]

She is, even now, planning her next trip to coincide with the next writ delivery so they can restart the clock again on her return. What a fun game. I'm really beginning to believe all Thai laws are written by people who fully expect to be prosecuted by them and they have built in many, many loopholes.

[ginjag]

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For all you who complain about given her time to prepare think back to the Airport blockage by the Yellow terrorist who have been dragging this case out for years.

Oh yeah, bad as it was for Tourism, it wasn't 1 trillion Baht worth of blockage. There was a message in the airport blockage, what message was there in Yinglucks case ?? cheat, rob Thailands coffers.

we are talking about foot dragging here. why change the subject. plus the cost keeping going up and up every time you post. time you take a few days off of TV and relax and gain your senses back. but of course this is a typical yellow tactic to change the subject when it don't suit them.

TOPIC Yingluck, DEFICIT. her feet dragging. not your spin about uncle Tom Cobley.

[Nickymaster]

This is a blow for the yellows on here yet another set back because Yingluck and her team are just to smart for this lot.

Bumping her up the list and rushing to get something anything other is just showing the bias towards yingluck and the PTP.

The fact is she is just to popular and the peoples choice and this mob have no idea what to do about it because the backlash at the polls is already going to sweep the PTP back into power and if she's the leader the yellows will be decimated.

Hence the targeting while those before are on the very very back burner .

What a desperate post.

They are keeping The Shins on a leash and you don't see that. Love it.

[EnglishJohn]

For all you who complain about given her time to prepare think back to the Airport blockage by the Yellow terrorist who have been dragging this case out for years.

Terrorists ?. I have no idea where you get that term from. Nobody was in terror. It was a peaceful protest as far as I remember.

Unlike the people who murdered those same people during the recent protests with grenades of course. Now they were REAL terrorists.

[Bluespunk]

This is a blow for the yellows on here yet another set back because Yingluck and her team are just to smart for this lot.

Bumping her up the list and rushing to get something anything other is just showing the bias towards yingluck and the PTP.

The fact is she is just to popular and the peoples choice and this mob have no idea what to do about it because the backlash at the polls is already going to sweep the PTP back into power and if she's the leader the yellows will be decimated.

Hence the targeting while those before are on the very very back burner .

It doesn't matter if she is the peoples choice or not if she broke the rules. She has to face the consequences of her actions regardless of popularity.

As should all politicians.

[EnglishJohn]

This is a blow for the yellows on here yet another set back because Yingluck and her team are just to smart for this lot.

Bumping her up the list and rushing to get something anything other is just showing the bias towards yingluck and the PTP.

The fact is she is just to popular and the peoples choice and this mob have no idea what to do about it because the backlash at the polls is already going to sweep the PTP back into power and if she's the leader the yellows will be decimated.

Hence the targeting while those before are on the very very back burner .

Mr Parrot : just a bit of advice for you. When you make posts like this one (and all of yours are like this one), do you have any idea what you are doing to the image everybody has of the typical red-shirt ?.

It reads like some illiterate brat from North Korea with a grudge wrote it. I for one would be much more willing to look at it from your side if you presented some clear and logical arguments which have some basis in fact.

You are one more post away from the honour of being the first on my ignore list ..

[Bluespunk]

For all you who complain about given her time to prepare think back to the Airport blockage by the Yellow terrorist who have been dragging this case out for years.

Gaol them as well, fine by me.

The more people that realise that there are actually consequences for wrongdoing, the better.

Edited November 13, 2014 by Bluespunk