slapout Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I think tingtong described the majority of Thai cyclists. Chiang Mai is noted for its Sunday bicycle ride, all decked out in latest fashion, with some bragging rights as to most expensive rig. On the other hand the tourists seem to like the bicycle, especially the Chinese, but not in rain. But this so called high season seems to have a much larger number of cyclists on the roads in CM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabbie Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 (edited) I support the realistic idea of bicycle lanes as these are much cheaper, more healthy and good for both commuting & pleasure. Edited November 14, 2014 by nabbie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Somtam Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Nobody rides a bicycle in Thailand! They take the car or motorbike to get a Fanta @ 50 meters distance! 18 months ago your post might have been correct, in the last 1-2 years bicycles have become a fashion in bkk, In my area there are bicycle lanes although in the last month they broke up from use with heavy trucks, but infact the thais here even have a place to store their very expencive bicycles then ride by motocyc on the wrong side of the road without helmets to where the bikes are kept under lock and key, On arrival they put on the lycra gear and bike helmets and ride up and down the same road for a few hours till its time to ride the motocyc home without a helmet on the wrong side of the road, Not kidding some of these bicycles have carbon fiber frames and wheels, soft drink stalls and coffee shops have set up where they stop and exchange info and brag about the cost of the bike being over 100k, These cyclists dont regard the bicycle as a mode of transport but rather a prestige fashion statement and nothing more. Millions of cars and motorbikes vs à couple of hundred fashionista cyclists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingtongfarang Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I think tingtong described the majority of Thai cyclists. Chiang Mai is noted for its Sunday bicycle ride, all decked out in latest fashion, with some bragging rights as to most expensive rig. On the other hand the tourists seem to like the bicycle, especially the Chinese, but not in rain. But this so called high season seems to have a much larger number of cyclists on the roads in CM. I believe there are quite some places fitting my description around bkk, largest may be around the airport, the majority of these people only ride in the evening but in my hood the numbers look close to 200 cyclists, Could it be that some of these guys have high friends...therefor all this action and talk on planned bike lanes, I feel its just a fashion which will be gone as fast as it came Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuchulainn Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Why not put steel girders across the paths every 1km or so. May be a pain in the arse for cyclists, but at least it will stop the low life, brain dead scum on motorbikes flying past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kriswillems Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 20 million baht for bicycle lanes all over Thailand? That's what we pay in Europe for 500 meters ... magical! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MESmith Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I enjoy my recreational cycling. I live out in the countryside, with light traffic. mostly I take my bike in the back of my truck to even quieter areas to ride. Ride in the city (Chiang Mai)? Never!! Bike lanes will never work here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rametindallas Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 When the government can prove they can keep cars and motorcycles off the sidewalks, then I would still have doubts regarding the safety of bicycling in Bangkok. Unless there are heavy concrete barriers installed to delineate the lanes, it will be an invitation to die as the bus drivers act as if they get extra points for taking out a bicycle. I ride a motorcycle and drive defensively but I know my life may be taken at any moment. Only practicing Buddhists, and tourists who don't know any better, will use these. Bangkok ain't Amsterdam; there is no culture of bicycling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkgooner Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I would love to cycle to work every day but it will never be a reality in this country, sometimes I really do think the Thais just don't care very much about their own country. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongtak Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 New lanes for Thais to park their cars, install food stalls and do other things that will screw their society even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy50 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Tourists should try avoid the Thai roads,forget the cycle lanes,put the money towards the orphanages. I cycle 300 k a week in issan. Last weekend I went to a race in Chiang Khan, more than 300 riders took part, young and old- male and female. There are 3/4 such events every weekend in Thailand. Every evening I see others like me out and about enjoying this great sport. Nearly all towns have cycling clubs. I estimate I have cycled 30000 k in Thailand, I crashed badly once when I was knocked off by a dog. As for tourists, they can rent bikes at just about every popular location in Thailand. Your post just saddens me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surangw Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 aren't the in place now disguised as sidewalks ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aforek Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Tourists should try avoid the Thai roads,forget the cycle lanes,put the money towards the orphanages. I cycle 300 k a week in issan. Last weekend I went to a race in Chiang Khan, more than 300 riders took part, young and old- male and female. There are 3/4 such events every weekend in Thailand. Every evening I see others like me out and about enjoying this great sport. Nearly all towns have cycling clubs. I estimate I have cycled 30000 k in Thailand, I crashed badly once when I was knocked off by a dog. As for tourists, they can rent bikes at just about every popular location in Thailand. Your post just saddens me. I agree with you ; I know somebody who lives in Issan and he told me about it already ; Thai people ( some at least ) love bicycle I live myself in the sector Cha am - Hua hin, many many bicycles here, Thai, farangs ; I ride my bicycle every day, feel very safe; people in cars pay much more attention than when I am with my motobike I knowThai men who belong to a club in Cha am, they love bicycle, not a fashion at all, I see them often between Petchaburi and Hua hin Thailand is big, people here don't see everything ; bicycle has a future in Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thongkorn Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I suppose at least the car drivers know exactly where the Cyclist are , its a better Target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexicanFarang Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Every Thai driver will respect those lines on the pavement and would never break the law and drive their car or motorbike in those lanes. Thai People #1 in World in Optimism 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJP Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Will these bicycle lanes be constructed to a standard sufficient to take the weight of the articulated lorries that will be driving on them? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Sata Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Will these bicycle lanes be constructed to a standard sufficient to take the weight of the articulated lorries that will be driving on them? Why would they do that? The roads are not constructed to that standard and they do take overloaded trucks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJP Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Will these bicycle lanes be constructed to a standard sufficient to take the weight of the articulated lorries that will be driving on them? Why would they do that? The roads are not constructed to that standard and they do take overloaded trucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Sata Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I have spent a longtime in Thailand and know all the tricks. The concrete delivery trick where once the driver has delivered the first time he tries to do a deal to supply the stuff at a better rate the next time but you have to be prepared for the phone call to say he is coming now. Your cubic metre is someone else's loss. Government roads and infrastructure are a gold mine for the rip off merchants who supply the concrete for the bosses new house or shop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJP Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I have spent a longtime in Thailand and know all the tricks. The concrete delivery trick where once the driver has delivered the first time he tries to do a deal to supply the stuff at a better rate the next time but you have to be prepared for the phone call to say he is coming now. Your cubic metre is someone else's loss. Government roads and infrastructure are a gold mine for the rip off merchants who supply the concrete for the bosses new house or shop. I've seen this. Strange how the unrequired part load from the other job is always around 5.5 cubic metres (a fully mixer load). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gomangosteen Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 other cycle lane thread and this post - for all the experts, the coast highway Trat-Chanthaburi-Rayong This weekend hosts a 157km cycle race Rayong-Chanthaburi-Rayong - turning point about 200m from above photo at coast resort of Khung Wiman Chanthaburi - East Coast Challenge Cycle Race Cycling road race 16 November 2014 following the coast highway (Chaloem Burapha Chonlathit Road) from Rayong to Khung Wiman bay (Chanthaburi) and return, total 151km. Also a ‘couples’ option 117km return. Recent social/family fun ride, over 400 riders. But from what I've read, no one rides cycles in Thailand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post burgdawg Posted November 14, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 14, 2014 re: bicycle lane improvement in the Kingdom. Am all for it, two thumbs up. Even if a publicity stunt, a few bike lanes oughta get built somewhere. True enough, municipal bicycle lanes need improvement and expansion throughout the Kingdom. Bicyclists are a tough lot and if the surface is decent enough, we'll pedal it. What makes bicycle touring in the Kingdom so inviting? All of it. The bus system, the ห้องพัก, the food, the people, the moobahns. I've been bicycling in the Kingdom for 8 years now, nothing but praise from my point of view. I would the assist the General in any way possible. He is onto a winning strategy for the cities and everyone's beloved Kingdom. For example: I jump bus #99 to Nakhon Phanom last December when the cold front from China swept down Asia and pedaled BACK to Chonburi. Fantastic ride. Granted, the hardest aspect was the long bus ride, no matter. I pop off in Nakhon Phanom, view the city, the amazing Wat and then headed south to Mukdahan. Yes, have GPS, maps and all that. Hands down the BEST maps and most accurate are the Nokia-ovi maps on my Nokia smartphone. Blown away. The zoom-ability of the Ovi maps off network is what makes them a gem. Sure, Google maps are superb, but are a battery and network nightmare. Give the Maps a try on your Nokia. (Ovi maps are contained in 95% of vehicles on the road, btw) From Mukdahan, a series of loops and I ended up for the night at กุดชุม --Gut Chum-- NE of Yasothon on Hwy 2169. I really thought I had died and got sent to Bicycle Heaven. I wish I could spin a yarn about how dangerous Thailand is, sorry, cannot. Thailand, imho, is the BEST BICYCLING country in the world, hands down. The biggest ordeal is the heat and rehydration is paramount. Yes, I am fully aware of past bicycle tragedies. These happen worldwide. Thailand does not have a special affinity for road tragedy. Hey, try VietNam if you want harrowing experiences. No alternate routes many times. Is there room for improvement? Of course. I feel that General Prayuth Chan-ocha wants to stress multiple platforms in his decree: public works projects for various municipalities (work for highway contractors), stress fitness and health, and prepare for the next generation. If we all recall our own memories of Thailand, pedi-cabs were once in abundance, now viewed as an ornament. From Yasothon, a long haul to Surin. The biggest ordeal of pedaling in the Kingdom? My sore arms from waving to kon Tai. I did get stopped by various farmers for marriage proposals to their daughters. I could not take a road break without curious kon Tai wondering if I was from another planet. They yelled out "LANCE: all the time due to my yellow jersey. Amazing Thailand. Surin is great because there are bicycle shops, pedi-cabs and pedi-trucks still in use after generations. Amazing to sit at their central ตลาด to view the various forms of pedal power. Onto Grasang, Buriram, south to Nang Rong and Aranyaprathet. My longest day of pedaling was from Aranyaprathet to Chonburi, 313km in one day. Fun stuff. Give it a try. In closing, I would not label the bike lanes as "bicycle lanes." It is a misnomer. I call then "the parade lane." Why? At any one time, monks, pedestrians, sam-lors, school kids, broken down vehicles, vendors, etc are all occupying this "Parade Lane." My fave was photographing a flock of ducks waddling away in the bicycle lane in Isaan someplace. Allow General Prayuth some support with his decree. Cycling in the hinterlands of Thailand will require upgrading of the municipal bike paths. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Sata Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 other cycle lane thread and this post - for all the experts, the coast highway Trat-Chanthaburi-Rayong This weekend hosts a 157km cycle race Rayong-Chanthaburi-Rayong - turning point about 200m from above photo at coast resort of Khung Wiman Chanthaburi - East Coast Challenge Cycle Race Cycling road race 16 November 2014 following the coast highway (Chaloem Burapha Chonlathit Road) from Rayong to Khung Wiman bay (Chanthaburi) and return, total 151km. Also a couples option 117km return. Recent social/family fun ride, over 400 riders. But from what I've read, no one rides cycles in Thailand. That looks great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJP Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 ^^ That's some really tidy civil's work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fforest1 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 20 million baht for bicycle lanes all over Thailand? After the brown envelops have been passed around that 20 million will be gone after 5-10-15 kilometers of roads are painted with a bike lane then promptly forgotten about. If your a bike lover you would be better off moving to Amsterdam. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 There are three kinds of people riding bikes, Thai yuppies, misguided and misinformed farangs, and poor Thai people who can't afford to buy a motorbike, and unless they will come up with a bike that has air-condition in it, this will be another waste of money.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolgeoff Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 It will be motorbikes that will be using the space the cyclists will be pushed out great idea.make it easy for me on my scooter in time.best thing is not use pedal too dangerous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realenglish1 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Good idea in principle but you have to bad motorcycles from clogging them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catweazle Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Great!!! So the Yaa Baa and testosteron-pumped loosers on their pimped up Honda Clicks can race along there then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovekorat Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Bicycle lanes????? I've got a good idea.. 1.lets have a meaningful driving test 2. Let's have rules on the roads 3. Let's have the police enforcing those rules 4. Let's have driving bans for those that break them 5. Lets stop people driving the wrong way on the hard shoulder of dual carriageways especially without lights 6. Let's have an MOT test to get rid of dangerous vehicles Oh dear......must have been a dream I've just woken up 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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