Better Not Buy Computer Parts Online And Be Negatively Surprised..

[lostinisaan]

Hello,

Sorry, for opening a new thread about an old topic. I posted a thread a few days ago regarding a battery replacement for a DELL 1440.

I finally went to an "Advice" shop, told them to order one for me, which is 1,200 baht. The big surprise was when I tried to put it into my notebook. It didn't fit in, seemed that some contacts were not straight, or any other issues.

The good part of the story is that the nice girl had ordered a few more and part number two fit in. Just thought about when ordering something online, as I first wanted to order one from China.

So what would you do with such a non functioning part? Send it back to China?......

I didn't charge it full, just wondering when using it, connected to the charger, shouldn't it go up to 100 % full when constantly connected?

It stops at 90.4 %.

I still have the opportunity to "try" another one, should they still have one. I'm using this program somebody posted, called:" BatteryBar."

What's your input? Thanks a lot in advance.

[lostinisaan]

Now all in a sudden after using it disconnected, it goes up. I'm at 95.7 % now.

[phil2]

Did you order from Aliexpress? They usually start behaving badly if they fall down.

The first one I got didn't fit properly, and it stopped working after falling down a couple of days later, but the second one was fine. Both cost about 1,200.

[Tywais]

Try discharging the battery completely then charge again. Sometimes they need 'conditioned'.

[thedemon]

There are no aftermarket battery manufacturers in Thailand and I would wager a bet that every single aftermarket battery on sale in Thailand was made in China. Other posters already suggested that you buy online directly from China via Aliexpress.

If you feel nervous about buying via this organisation that very recently had the worlds largest ever IPO at approx 25 Billion dollars then you could consider ordering through eBay where you will have several layers of buyer protection.

Why do you feel safer to buy a battery through a shop in Nakhon Nowhere that buys from a distributor that buys from an importer that buys their batteries in China?

[DogNo1]

Warning! Aliexpress has scam sellers on it who will charge you for an item and then not send it. You can usually dispute the charge and get a refund but it's a bother. It's best to select the vendors who report many customers and appear to be legitimate.

[lostinisaan]

There are no aftermarket battery manufacturers in Thailand and I would wager a bet that every single aftermarket battery on sale in Thailand was made in China. Other posters already suggested that you buy online directly from China via Aliexpress.

If you feel nervous about buying via this organisation that very recently had the worlds largest ever IPO at approx 25 Billion dollars then you could consider ordering through eBay where you will have several layers of buyer protection.

Why do you feel safer to buy a battery through a shop in Nakhon Nowhere that buys from a distributor that buys from an importer that buys their batteries in China?

I thought I'd already explained why. I went to "Advice" in our city, they ordered a few and I have a one year warranty. The first battery didn't even fit in, so what would I have done, when receiving it via post from China?\

Would I send it back to China?

So this is not a Nakhon nowhere shop. They do have shops all over the country and usually have the best parts on stock. I have my one year warranty and can get my money back within seven days after purchase.

Ordering it from China would only be 300 baht less.

So why would anybody on this planet would like to have such a headache, when you've got such a great shop in town?

It stops charging again at 85% now and I can go back to the shop, which is on my way home from work and get another one, until it works well.

I hope that this answered your question.

[lostinisaan]

Try discharging the battery completely then charge again. Sometimes they need 'conditioned'.

Pretty funny. On the package is written in German and English that you shouldn't let it drain completely.

I don't see a red light anymore, when it's charging, will try my old battery when I come home from work. Really weird. Seems that the battery doesn't charge when computer's switched off?

Sooner, or later I'll believe in ghosts.

[KhunBENQ]

Pretty funny. On the package is written in German and English that you shouldn't let it drain completely.

True!

I bought a new Li-Io pack two days ago as the old one was completely dead (after being "weak" before).

For this occasion I investigated into the matter and was surprised.

Don't discharge the battery to its limit if you want to have a long battery life.

Recharging at 30% seems to be a good compromise.

(yes I know: you loose 30% uptime)

See the tables in this article e.g.:

http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries

One of the last things I did with the old pack: discharged it to the absoulte limit by disabling Windows alarm/shutdown settings.

I guess that was the end of the old pack

Those cells are a scientific matter to handle

Just read about the multiple factors that influence charging, capacity and lifetime.

Don't store them empty, don't store them fully loaded. 50% is fine and so on.

Not a good idea: battery attached and most of the time connected to A/C (so battery is full and not discharged).

A fairly common scenario I guess.

Better detach at 50% charged and keep in the fridge

BTW: it seems quite normal that the last few percent of charging take unusally long (changing from constant current to constant voltage).

Edited November 28, 2014 by KhunBENQ

[lostinisaan]

Pretty funny. On the package is written in German and English that you shouldn't let it drain completely.

True!

I bought a new Li-Io pack two days ago as the old one was completely dead (after being "weak" before).

For this occasion I investigated into the matter and was surprised.

Don't discharge the battery to its limit if you want to have a long battery life.

Recharging at 30% seems to be a good compromise.

(yes I know: you loose 30% uptime)

See the tables in this article e.g.:

http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries

One of the last things I did with the old pack: discharged it to the absoulte limit by disabling Windows alarm/shutdown settings.

I guess that was the end of the old pack

Those cells are a scientific matter to handle

Just read about the multiple factors that influence charging, capacity and lifetime.

Don't store them empty, don't store them fully loaded. 50% is fine and so on.

Not a good idea: battery attached and most of the time connected to A/C (so battery is full and not discharged).

A fairly common scenario I guess.

Better detach at 50% charged and keep in the fridge

BTW: it seems quite normal that the last few percent of charging take unusally long (changing from constant current to constant voltage).

Yeaah, computer batteries seem to be similar to the Thai educational system. Had it charging up to 97 % yesterday ,then had to go.

Now it's back to normal and stops at exactly 85.2%

I don't see the charging light anymore when the machine is plugged in and switched off. Have to try it with my old one when I come home. If that works with my old one, which isn't really dead, I'll go back and see if they have ordered another one.

The amazingly good looking and young girl from Advice last time when I put the second part in after the first didn't fit. She must have thought about the same, I did.

When I said that there's not enough electricity to boot, she said: " Chan mee fai lek, duai." I said: " Pomm mee fai lek duai, tamm song fai lek mee fai Yai leo, au mai khrap?"

"Au kha" came out of her beautiful mouth.... and she wants to learn English......

She said yes that would be okay and played with her long hair that goes down to her bottom....god is she nice. The battery, of course.....

Edited November 28, 2014 by lostinisaan

[lostinisaan]

-Short Update-

Just came back from the shop and the good looking girl. There's no more battery on stock, but she's still as beautiful as she was yesterday.

Then something weird happened. I had to take it out to show her..( I mean the laptop battery) then put it in really slowly, when her eyes were watching all my moves.

Okay, see you soon, will come by if the battery doesn't get better..........a lovely goodbye and I drove home with butterflies in my computer bag..\

I drove home and switched the damn DELL on and all in a sudden it showed 100, or 99 % full. Seems that the good looking girl has magic powers and could heal my battery.

Now I could solve the battery problem, the next one will be posted in another forum. My wife's reaction when I tell her that I want the girl from the shop to move in to be my Mia Noi.

All she wants is a tiny little BMW, a small house with a tiny pool and a Harley Davidson. That's okay, being a teacher here enables you to live a good life.

Thanks for all the help and good advice. Wish all experts, but also expats a wonderful weekend, surrounded by thousands of eye candies.

Edited November 28, 2014 by lostinisaan

[NanLaew]

The amazingly good looking and young girl from Advice...

Pictures or it didn't happen.

[Paul944]

You only want an excuse to go back to the shop to see the girl

Those charging numbers are also influenced by temperature. The only relevant numbers are:

How long does the laptop last on a charged battery? 2 or 3 hours working time seems reasonable for a Dell 1440 to me.

How long does the battery lasts? Mostly after 2 or 3 years there is a huge decrease in capacity.

How long does it take to charge the battery. This will be several hours. Your power supply has to be able to charge the battery and run the laptop simultaneously.

[edmartech]

For laptop batteries, I use ebay. Pay via Paypal.

If the item is not as advertised, you can file a dispute and you can get your money back.

[lostinisaan]

For laptop batteries, I use ebay. Pay via Paypal.

If the item is not as advertised, you can file a dispute and you can get your money back.

I can get my money back within seven days, without a problem. But then I'd have to find a new excuse to see her.

Thank god that batteries have a life span......