New technology traps cheating Thai girlfriends

[Tywais]

OP will not be back. A discussion or any explanation wasn't the point of posting the advert.

If haven't noticed he or his assistant has been answering questions for a while now under the name of Summertime1. So they have been back.

[CantSpell]

0.30 cent per day: 9 USD per month....

Find 1000 very credulous men that are silly enough to send money from the other side of the world to a Thai girl, while thinkg she is not dropping her pants AT ALL for anyone....

Makes 9K US revenue per month....

Good business

[evadgib]

Given the ease & frequency by which names & ID cards are changed the only way this could work is by using bio technology as per passports / surveillance systems elsewhere. I suspect the computer crimes act (Thailand) or data protection legislation (EU/US/OZ) will need looking at too.

Edited December 3, 2014 by evadgib

[Rusty Keyhole]

Sorry, I would have preferred the moon, but that was already taken over by someone else in 1969. The sale of acres from the moon is a story published in international newspapers.

The story about Heidelberg is a true story, but only the beginning of the story - a horror love story.

This is related to the topic to demonstrate that you can make anything out of anything, and data need to be put in a context to become information.

I though your last post was bad but this one really is Ze Wurst.

[dchesham]

as long as you are staying with ur gfriend you can use keylogger on your computer as long asboth are using it

[cjchaos]

Regarding some other posts on this thread, I very much doubt this application has access to peoples ID card numbers and if it did, I don't think people are asked for such information on dating sites. They are registering on a dating sit enot applying for a mortgage.Most people search engines check with email, usernames, real names, age, starsign, date of birth. My ex wife was cheating using Badoo and something called myyearbook which is now meetme, I found both the profiles using google... all I did was use the her maiden surname on a google search and she had been cheating for months before I even tried searching. I got suspicious since she started locking her laptop in a padlocked case so I couldn't access it and checking my history even though I didn't cheat or anything, I had nothing to hide so I didn't make my laptop so hard to access.... I didn't intentially see the padlocked laptop but noticed it when going into the wardrobe, hardly smart to keep something unenterable and put it in plain sight. This application is probably disigned to subscribe to so people can have it monitored on their behalf, so they don't sit their weekly googling etc.. Too many people want to find out if their partner is cheating but when they do, what do you do then? Divorce or stay with this person? I have been there and too many times the person says they will never do it again and they did it because they were lonely etc..... and try to blame the victim. Some people have made fake profiles and talk to their wifes to see how far they are going to cheat and sometimes it can be a shocking experience for the husband and they find out their partners true colours as opposed to the pack of lies you may get confronting the issue the moment you find it. If you find your partner on Badoo, tell them about it and fight about it they will probably delete their profile and make a new bogus one even harder to find so you are better playing dumb... however there are legal implecations in making fake profiles on dating sites so no method is concrete. I heard some people used their own picture and changed it using photoshop to make them unrecognisable so they weren't breaking the law by using a picture of another person.

[Summertime1]

OP will not be back. A discussion or any explanation wasn't the point of posting the advert.

Thank you yes we have been replying to the blogs under Summertime1 but as you can appreciate yesterday was a very busy day for us with a lot of new clients so it was just impossible to comment or reply to them all.

We are a legitimate company and the CEO is an ex Scotland Yard detective with years of experience specialising in fraud and abusive relationships. Also for everybody’s information this submission to Thai Visa was originally submitted as an ‘Ad’ but somehow it was posted as news, no deception was intended.

Reading some of the comments in the Forum it is clear that most of you are a fairly worldly wise and cynical bunch, who know and understand the risks in dating in Thailand and you can recognise and avoid trouble and deception. However, there are many who are new to your world and don’t. Who of you don’t know of somebody who has fallen (emotionally and financially) fowl of a girlfriend who has told him that she loved him and needed money to send to her family and stop working in the bar when in reality she was spending it on parties, gambling, drink, going with customers and with numerous boyfriend dotted around the globe? ......... be honest.

I don’t know about you, but in my books lying to somebody about how you feel about them and what you need money for in order to obtain a financial advantage is fraud.

There are men who have lost a lot of money in Thailand believing their girlfriend genuinely loved them when, in fact, the relationship (on her part), was money making exercise and when it was all gone... so would she be.

I appreciate that the site is not full proof as it relies upon both of the boyfriends registering the same girlfriend but at least it gives a guy a fighting chance of learning the truth at a reasonable price $29.99 a month (less if you subscribe for longer). Also, as the size of our database increases our chances of helping, or reassuring people, improve. We appreciate different names and nicknames can be used by the girls to avoid detection so we have designed the site so we search across a range of data to look for matches, if we find one and it is suspected a girl is being unfaithful with two or more clients one of our detectives investigate further to verify the facts.

Nobody is disrespecting Thai girls or the Thai people but, let’s be candid, some of the more unscrupulous girls are scamming unsuspecting men unmercifully and leaving them stranded, broken hearted and penniless.

Like I said we are just trying to give the guys who want to keep track of a girlfriend’s faithfulness but don’t want to pay for a Private Investigator a chance. This doesn’t stop them employing a Thai private investigator should they wish; in fact we often advise further investigation by somebody based locally.

I hope this helps explains things.

FidelityCheckOnline.com

[cjchaos]

as long as you are staying with ur gfriend you can use keylogger on your computer as long asboth are using it

This will indeed get you passwords, URL and even chats... some take screenshots of the screen even min or so, so having the computer slow down on any computer older than 2008 at regular intervals can be a give away to an I.T person. The free ones may be a scam and could try and steal your confidential detials and perhaps bank information, even while it is appearing to work. If you know a reputable site or company it is better than just using anything. It is best to find legitimate paid software and have the firewall worked around restricting the external connection to the application which takes I.T knowledge. Also Anti-Virus and Malware scanners will usually pick these up..so they would need configuring also. Not to mention it could be illegal to track without knowledge in some countries. I doubt the average person will be both an I.T expert and a Lawyer.

Edited December 3, 2014 by cjchaos

[Summertime1]

as long as you are staying with ur gfriend you can use keylogger on your computer as long asboth are using it

Local laws vary but as a general rule you can use a key logger on a jointly owned computer or software on phone but not secretly on a device owned by somebody else.

FidelityCheckOnline.com

Check with a laywer first.

[Summertime1]

So, the way I read it, if one chooses to sign up their gf and pay for this service, they can "make contact" with other people paying for this service.

Example, John is sending Sally money each month and signs her up. Joe comes to town and hooks up with Sally, but Joe isn't a paying member of the site. How does John get to know Joe is hooking up with Sally?

Correct me if I am wrong but basically unless you are both paying towards this site and you are both "dating" the same girl, this service is useless.

Thank you yes we have been replying to the blogs under Summertime1 but as you can appreciate yesterday was a very busy day for us with a lot of new clients so it was just impossible to comment or reply to them all.

We are a legitimate company and the CEO is an ex Scotland Yard detective with years of experience specialising in fraud and abusive relationships. Also for everybody’s information this submission to Thai Visa was originally submitted as an ‘Ad’ but somehow it was posted as news, no deception was intended.

Reading some of the comments in the Forum it is clear that most of you are a fairly worldly wise and cynical bunch, who know and understand the risks in dating in Thailand and you can recognise and avoid trouble and deception. However, there are many who are new to your world and don’t. Who of you don’t know of somebody who has fallen (emotionally and financially) fowl of a girlfriend who has told him that she loved him and needed money to send to her family and stop working in the bar when in reality she was spending it on parties, gambling, drink, going with customers and with numerous boyfriend dotted around the globe? ......... be honest.

I don’t know about you, but in my books lying to somebody about how you feel about them and what you need money for in order to obtain a financial advantage is fraud.

There are men who have lost a lot of money in Thailand believing their girlfriend genuinely loved them when, in fact, the relationship (on her part), was money making exercise and when it was all gone... so would she be.

I appreciate that the site is not full proof as it relies upon both of the boyfriends registering the same girlfriend but at least it gives a guy a fighting chance of learning the truth at a reasonable price $29.99 a month (less if you subscribe for longer). Also, as the size of our database increases our chances of helping, or reassuring people, improve. We appreciate different names and nicknames can be used by the girls to avoid detection so we have designed the site so we search across a range of data to look for matches, if we find one and it is suspected a girl is being unfaithful with two or more clients one of our detectives investigate further to verify the facts.

Nobody is disrespecting Thai girls or the Thai people but, let’s be candid, some of the more unscrupulous girls are scamming unsuspecting men unmercifully and leaving them stranded, broken hearted and penniless.

Like I said we are just trying to give the guys who want to keep track of a girlfriend’s faithfulness but don’t want to pay for a Private Investigator a chance. This doesn’t stop them employing a Thai private investigator should they wish; in fact we often advise further investigation by somebody based locally.

I hope this helps explains things.

FidelityCheckOnline.com

[cjchaos]

So, the way I read it, if one chooses to sign up their gf and pay for this service, they can "make contact" with other people paying for this service.

Example, John is sending Sally money each month and signs her up. Joe comes to town and hooks up with Sally, but Joe isn't a paying member of the site. How does John get to know Joe is hooking up with Sally?

Correct me if I am wrong but basically unless you are both paying towards this site and you are both "dating" the same girl, this service is useless.

Thank you yes we have been replying to the blogs under Summertime1 but as you can appreciate yesterday was a very busy day for us with a lot of new clients so it was just impossible to comment or reply to them all.

We are a legitimate company and the CEO is an ex Scotland Yard detective with years of experience specialising in fraud and abusive relationships. Also for everybody’s information this submission to Thai Visa was originally submitted as an ‘Ad’ but somehow it was posted as news, no deception was intended.

Reading some of the comments in the Forum it is clear that most of you are a fairly worldly wise and cynical bunch, who know and understand the risks in dating in Thailand and you can recognise and avoid trouble and deception. However, there are many who are new to your world and don’t. Who of you don’t know of somebody who has fallen (emotionally and financially) fowl of a girlfriend who has told him that she loved him and needed money to send to her family and stop working in the bar when in reality she was spending it on parties, gambling, drink, going with customers and with numerous boyfriend dotted around the globe? ......... be honest.

I don’t know about you, but in my books lying to somebody about how you feel about them and what you need money for in order to obtain a financial advantage is fraud.

There are men who have lost a lot of money in Thailand believing their girlfriend genuinely loved them when, in fact, the relationship (on her part), was money making exercise and when it was all gone... so would she be.

I appreciate that the site is not full proof as it relies upon both of the boyfriends registering the same girlfriend but at least it gives a guy a fighting chance of learning the truth at a reasonable price $29.99 a month (less if you subscribe for longer). Also, as the size of our database increases our chances of helping, or reassuring people, improve. We appreciate different names and nicknames can be used by the girls to avoid detection so we have designed the site so we search across a range of data to look for matches, if we find one and it is suspected a girl is being unfaithful with two or more clients one of our detectives investigate further to verify the facts.

Nobody is disrespecting Thai girls or the Thai people but, let’s be candid, some of the more unscrupulous girls are scamming unsuspecting men unmercifully and leaving them stranded, broken hearted and penniless.

Like I said we are just trying to give the guys who want to keep track of a girlfriend’s faithfulness but don’t want to pay for a Private Investigator a chance. This doesn’t stop them employing a Thai private investigator should they wish; in fact we often advise further investigation by somebody based locally.

I hope this helps explains things.

FidelityCheckOnline.com

Just some questions I have, a lot of data on dating sites have an option to take it off search engines, does your company have a way of finding profiles that won't show on search engines? and how does the new EU legasliation right to be forgotten effect the information you keep for the database? Does it make use of the new search with photo features seen on some search engines?

Edited December 3, 2014 by cjchaos

[Summertime1]

So, the way I read it, if one chooses to sign up their gf and pay for this service, they can "make contact" with other people paying for this service.

Example, John is sending Sally money each month and signs her up. Joe comes to town and hooks up with Sally, but Joe isn't a paying member of the site. How does John get to know Joe is hooking up with Sally?

Correct me if I am wrong but basically unless you are both paying towards this site and you are both "dating" the same girl, this service is useless.

Thank you yes we have been replying to the blogs under Summertime1 but as you can appreciate yesterday was a very busy day for us with a lot of new clients so it was just impossible to comment or reply to them all.

We are a legitimate company and the CEO is an ex Scotland Yard detective with years of experience specialising in fraud and abusive relationships. Also for everybody’s information this submission to Thai Visa was originally submitted as an ‘Ad’ but somehow it was posted as news, no deception was intended.

Reading some of the comments in the Forum it is clear that most of you are a fairly worldly wise and cynical bunch, who know and understand the risks in dating in Thailand and you can recognise and avoid trouble and deception. However, there are many who are new to your world and don’t. Who of you don’t know of somebody who has fallen (emotionally and financially) fowl of a girlfriend who has told him that she loved him and needed money to send to her family and stop working in the bar when in reality she was spending it on parties, gambling, drink, going with customers and with numerous boyfriend dotted around the globe? ......... be honest.

I don’t know about you, but in my books lying to somebody about how you feel about them and what you need money for in order to obtain a financial advantage is fraud.

There are men who have lost a lot of money in Thailand believing their girlfriend genuinely loved them when, in fact, the relationship (on her part), was money making exercise and when it was all gone... so would she be.

I appreciate that the site is not full proof as it relies upon both of the boyfriends registering the same girlfriend but at least it gives a guy a fighting chance of learning the truth at a reasonable price $29.99 a month (less if you subscribe for longer). Also, as the size of our database increases our chances of helping, or reassuring people, improve. We appreciate different names and nicknames can be used by the girls to avoid detection so we have designed the site so we search across a range of data to look for matches, if we find one and it is suspected a girl is being unfaithful with two or more clients one of our detectives investigate further to verify the facts.

Nobody is disrespecting Thai girls or the Thai people but, let’s be candid, some of the more unscrupulous girls are scamming unsuspecting men unmercifully and leaving them stranded, broken hearted and penniless.

Like I said we are just trying to give the guys who want to keep track of a girlfriend’s faithfulness but don’t want to pay for a Private Investigator a chance. This doesn’t stop them employing a Thai private investigator should they wish; in fact we often advise further investigation by somebody based locally.

I hope this helps explains things.

FidelityCheckOnline.com

Just some questions I have, a lot of data on dating sites have an option to take it off search engines, does your company have a way of finding profiles that won't show on search engines? and how does the new EU legasliation right to be forgotten effect the information you keep for the database? Does it make use of the new search with photo features seen on some search engines?

We don't intusivly hunt for any personal info or store any unnecessary information, we compare data, so once you register your girlfriends data (including social media address) we check to see if that address is being used to communicate with another man who has her registered as his girlfriend. We use the last five numbers of bank accounts/ tel numbers/ID cards in the same way. If the last five numbers of any of these accounts are the same as the partner of another guy on the database we are alerted and investigate further. We might ask you for more information to help comfirm any match. Once alerted to a possible match we will perform a physical check and compare photographs of the girl.

When you stop being a member all of the partner data is permanently deleted from the site so there is no evidence they were ever registered so the right to be forgotten doesn't apply.

We do not store data unnecessarily and we are not building up a historical database.

Hope this helps

FCOL

[Summertime1]

Never seen this here before - an ad masquerading as a post. Is this the start of a new policy/trend? Why not at least highlight it as a commercial piece (in the heading), as newspapers and magazines do when advertisers submit pieces designed to look like news articles.

We are a legitimate company and the CEO is an ex Scotland Yard detective with years of experience specialising in fraud and abusive relationships. Also for everybody’s information this submission to Thai Visa was originally submitted as an ‘Ad’ but somehow it was posted as news, no deception was intended.

Reading some of the comments in the Forum it is clear that most of you are a fairly worldly wise and cynical bunch, who know and understand the risks in dating in Thailand and you can recognise and avoid trouble and deception. However, there are many who are new to your world and don’t. Who of you don’t know of somebody who has fallen (emotionally and financially) fowl of a girlfriend who has told him that she loved him and needed money to send to her family and stop working in the bar when in reality she was spending it on parties, gambling, drink, going with customers and with numerous boyfriend dotted around the globe? ......... be honest.

I don’t know about you, but in my books lying to somebody about how you feel about them and what you need money for in order to obtain a financial advantage is fraud.

There are men who have lost a lot of money in Thailand believing their girlfriend genuinely loved them when, in fact, the relationship (on her part), was money making exercise and when it was all gone... so would she be.

I appreciate that the site is not full proof as it relies upon both of the boyfriends registering the same girlfriend but at least it gives a guy a fighting chance of learning the truth at a reasonable price $29.99 a month (less if you subscribe for longer). Also, as the size of our database increases our chances of helping, or reassuring people, improve. We appreciate different names and nicknames can be used by the girls to avoid detection so we have designed the site so we search across a range of data to look for matches, if we find one and it is suspected a girl is being unfaithful with two or more clients one of our detectives investigate further to verify the facts.

Nobody is disrespecting Thai girls or the Thai people but, let’s be candid, some of the more unscrupulous girls are scamming unsuspecting men unmercifully and leaving them stranded, broken hearted and penniless.

Like I said we are just trying to give the guys who want to keep track of a girlfriend’s faithfulness but don’t want to pay for a Private Investigator a chance. This doesn’t stop them employing a Thai private investigator should they wish; in fact we often advise further investigation by somebody based locally.

I hope this helps explains things.

FidelityCheckOnline.com

[cjchaos]

Regarding some other posts on this thread, I very much doubt this application has access to peoples ID card numbers and if it did, I don't think people are asked for such information on dating sites. They are registering on a dating sit enot applying for a mortgage.Most people search engines check with email, usernames, real names, age, starsign, date of birth. My ex wife was cheating using Badoo and something called myyearbook which is now meetme, I found both the profiles using google... all I did was use the her maiden surname on a google search and she had been cheating for months before I even tried searching. I got suspicious since she started locking her laptop in a padlocked case so I couldn't access it and checking my history even though I didn't cheat or anything, I had nothing to hide so I didn't make my laptop so hard to access.... I didn't intentially see the padlocked laptop but noticed it when going into the wardrobe, hardly smart to keep something unenterable and put it in plain sight. This application is probably disigned to subscribe to so people can have it monitored on their behalf, so they don't sit their weekly googling etc.. Too many people want to find out if their partner is cheating but when they do, what do you do then? Divorce or stay with this person? I have been there and too many times the person says they will never do it again and they did it because they were lonely etc..... and try to blame the victim. Some people have made fake profiles and talk to their wifes to see how far they are going to cheat and sometimes it can be a shocking experience for the husband and they find out their partners true colours as opposed to the pack of lies you may get confronting the issue the moment you find it. If you find your partner on Badoo, tell them about it and fight about it they will probably delete their profile and make a new bogus one even harder to find so you are better playing dumb... however there are legal implecations in making fake profiles on dating sites so no method is concrete. I heard some people used their own picture and changed it using photoshop to make them unrecognisable so they weren't breaking the law by using a picture of another person

Since I can't edit now I am using the cross out function to highlight incorrect information I put before I knew the full details.

Edited December 3, 2014 by cjchaos

[micmichd]

Dear FCOL,

your scam procedure is looping.

Please provide an exit condition and use it, someone might get bored.

Thank you.

[micmichd]

For a better understanding you should take into consideration that

1. your clients in spe come from another culture than your spam targets

2. your results will necessarily give all way to misunderstandings and need inter-cultural mediation.

[micmichd]

Dear Farangs,

please keep in mind they are checking (Farang) dating sites only, and you might be able to find 'better' spyware somewhere else if you are so addicted to stalking.

[micmichd]

Dear scam stalkers or stalk scammers, I can't believe it.

You really believe the more idiots you find the bigger your idiot database?

Please pay me a small advance fee for feeding your database

[micmichd]

xCuse me for calling it an idiot database.

You're all clean cut kids when back home in your Farang countries. You like Christmas very much, and you are very well educated. You know by experience there's nothing more annoying than a Xmas present you already have. In cases something like this is happening you would certainly love to hand it over to your next love.

Why not set up a database to avoid dual gifts from Farangs to Thai ladies when tthey mess around with other men?

Something like ....

what would you like not to have or to keep for yourself?

[Summertime1]

xCuse me for calling it an idiot database.

You're all clean cut kids when back home in your Farang countries. You like Christmas very much, and you are very well educated. You know by experience there's nothing more annoying than a Xmas present you already have. In cases something like this is happening you would certainly love to hand it over to your next love.

Why not set up a database to avoid dual gifts from Farangs to Thai ladies when tthey mess around with other men?

Something like ....

what would you like not to have or to keep for yourself?

Thank you I am happy you understand what we are trying to do.

FCOL

[ttthailand]

Wouldn't it be better to ask guys to submit info fir free on the babes who already cheated them and have people pay to see if their new gf is on the list.

[ttthailand]

As the effectiveness of this site depends on membership numbers I wonder how many you currently have listed as of say today?

[Summertime1]

As the effectiveness of this site depends on membership numbers I wonder how many you currently have listed as of say today?

Hi

It's difficult to say, the numbers change daily as people join and leave. Most of our clients have girlfriends in the Far east, our second biggest market is the US where people are checking people out they have met on dating sites.

FCOL

[sustento]

Is Summertime1 a Thaivisa member or an employee of the sponsor?

[Lucifer]

As the effectiveness of this site depends on membership numbers I wonder how many you currently have listed as of say today?

Hi

It's difficult to say, the numbers change daily as people join and leave. Most of our clients have girlfriends in the Far east, our second biggest market is the US where people are checking people out they have met on dating sites.

FCOL

Ducking and diving, wheeling and dealing.

[micmichd]

Wouldn't it be better to ask guys to submit info fir free on the babes who already cheated them and have people pay to see if their new gf is on the list.

Maybe someone on the list has changed her mind or found the true love of her life.

Would you still like her to be on the list?

[Maestro]

Given the ease & frequency by which names & ID cards are changed the only way this could work is by using bio technology as per passports / surveillance systems elsewhere. I suspect the computer crimes act (Thailand) or data protection legislation (EU/US/OZ) will need looking at too.

A Thai national's Thai ID number remains unchanged for life. Some people do change their name, for example when a fortune teller tells them it will bring them good luck, and I don't now if this name change will get reflected on the ID.

[NeverSure]

If you are dumb enough to send money to a slapper, you're dumb enough to sign up for this service.

Why not cut out the middleman? Forget having a gf and just send money to the service.

[KhunMoo]

Oh Dear, Nok from Pattaya seems to be having affairs with other men.

(768 to be exact)

And I thought I was the only one.

WHAT? She told me, her name was Lek.....!

[micmichd]

Are you sure that's not the name of her underwear?

They obviously love to give names to everything, cat's called 'Miao', buffalo 'Moo', telephone 'telephone' - you never know. Someone said they like Farangs as pillows. They are simply naughty, they will never go to heaven, they go everywhere.