opalred Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 the wifes family kids come around and this year put up christmas tree telling the children to write a letter to santa they have been good children all year and put there letter to santa under tree also telling them as santa travels long way around world have to leave a beer and cake out for him is it ok in this country to do 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritManToo Posted December 6, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2014 Personally, I don't like lying to children. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stat088 Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Your english has improved. Not perfect but alot better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Anthony5 Posted December 6, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2014 I think you should be careful with that. Since Saint Nicholas has become a racist in recent years for use of black Pete's, there is a high possibility that Santa Claus soon will be accused of animal cruelty for the use of his reindeer's, and you don't want to get involved in that. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mango Bob Posted December 6, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2014 I seen no problem with it but I would leave out the beer and maybe milk or water but not beer. Plus the remarks about your English is insulting and should be reported. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gerry123 Posted December 6, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2014 sure go ahead hardly a lie not by Thai standards its just a bit of very harmless fun for the kids giving sharing all good basic learning 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mango Bob Posted December 6, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Personally, I don't like lying to children. So maybe you think lying to adult would be better? I guess we should also add there is no God. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerry123 Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Personally, I don't like lying to children. ba humbug 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HooHaa Posted December 6, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2014 why would it be wrong? unless, gasp, my parents were wrong too.nothing wrong with sharing traditions, though the explanation of the tradition might be a harder sell. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opalred Posted December 6, 2014 Author Share Posted December 6, 2014 kids just asked what time of a night he will come can they stay up to see him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarloKnight Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 OP, I'm not answering your question cause I'm in UK but....... If the kids believe get them on NORAD on Xmas eve so they can track Santa and see him going around the world kids over here love it :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CarlTyson Posted December 6, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2014 But what about next spring? You will have to go thru the crucifixion and the easter bunny routine? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerry123 Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 But what about next spring? You will have to go thru the crucifixion and the easter bunny routine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Personally, I don't like lying to children.So maybe you think lying to adult would be better? I guess we should also add there is no God. Teaching children that lying is OK from a very young age is encouraging them to grow up to be liars. I try to teach by example, if they ask me about god or Santa, I tell them what I believe the truth to be. Adults can take care of themselves, lying to adults, no problem. I often wonder what some children think when they discover their parents have deliberately and systematically lied to them for years? And over such trivial and pointless matters. What lesson is that teaching those children? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AhFarangJa Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 I think you should be careful with that. Since Saint Nicholas has become a racist in recent years for use of black Pete's, there is a high possibility that Santa Claus soon will be accused of animal cruelty for the use of his reindeer's, and you don't want to get involved in that. Also do not forget the slave labour case for all his elves, not to mention the cruelty to midgets lawsuit. Oh, and driving the sleigh while under the influence of 150 Gallons of sherry... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post sipi Posted December 6, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2014 Tell them the truth Opaired, and nothing but the truth.. Santa comes "in the middle of the night to good kids". They're kids, let them enjoy their innocence. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Suradit69 Posted December 6, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2014 sure go ahead hardly a lie not by Thai standards its just a bit of very harmless fun for the kids giving sharing all good basic learning "sure go ahead hardly a lie not by Thai standards " Always interesting to see how the Thai bashers can turn any topic into a knock on Thailand. Now Thais are to blame for western tales about Santa and the Easter bunny being foisted on their farang children for centuries. Anyway, I thought many farang came to Thailand to escape hearing the truth ... about their appearance, age, weight and personal hygiene. By comparison a few children's fairy tales are pretty tame. Considering the tales on TV about farang being so easily taken in by Thai women ("you sexy man"), this news about Santa not being real could come as another devastating bit of news for them. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Suradit69 Posted December 6, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2014 (edited) Personally, I don't like lying to children.So maybe you think lying to adult would be better? I guess we should also add there is no God. Teaching children that lying is OK from a very young age is encouraging them to grow up to be liars. I try to teach by example, if they ask me about god or Santa, I tell them what I believe the truth to be. Adults can take care of themselves, lying to adults, no problem. I often wonder what some children think when they discover their parents have deliberately and systematically lied to them for years? And over such trivial and pointless matters. What lesson is that teaching those children? "I tell them what I believe the truth to be" So the truth and what you believe to be the truth are somehow the same thing? And if a small child hands you a messy crayon drawing, you tell them it looks like some unfathomable crap ? Or if your kid is in a play at school and makes a total balls up . you tell him/her that it was a disaster? If your kid has some dreadful disease, you make sure to tell him how bad it is and how horrible the treatment will be? And you teach your children to tell their mother whenever the food she's prepared for them really sucks? The truth can be painfully brutal as most children do understand. We all lie. Many of the lies are meant to spare people's feelings or to make them feel good about themselves. Anyone who claims he only ever speaks the truth or that he only wants to hear the truth is lying and amazingly self-unaware. Selectively telling the truth only when it suits you is not being consistently honest. Being polite, well-mannered, considerate, caring all require that we discern when to be honest and when to lie diplomatically. Succeeding in business or politics may require that we know the importance of honesty, but survival means we know when it's prudent to prevaricate. Your children will be better prepared for life if you're truthful about what it will take to succeed. Edited December 6, 2014 by Suradit69 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kitsune Posted December 6, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2014 Personally, I don't like lying to children.So maybe you think lying to adult would be better? I guess we should also add there is no God. Teaching children that lying is OK from a very young age is encouraging them to grow up to be liars. I try to teach by example, if they ask me about god or Santa, I tell them what I believe the truth to be. Adults can take care of themselves, lying to adults, no problem. I often wonder what some children think when they discover their parents have deliberately and systematically lied to them for years? And over such trivial and pointless matters. What lesson is that teaching those children? Santa is not a lie, it's a legend 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgs Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 'Santa' is not part of their culture. All you are really doing is opening the floodgate of 'I want' - something that is already bad enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 As we accept selected parts of Thai culture why not share some of our European culture with them especially the less harmful traditions. The Thais have already adopted the gift giving and the Christmas tree so give the kids some fun but also when they are ready let them know it is only a myth or a tradition designed to bring a bit of joy and goodwill . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David48 Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 "I tell them what I believe the truth to be" So the truth and what you believe to be the truth are somehow the same thing? And if a small child hands you a messy crayon drawing, you tell them it looks like some unfathomable crap ? Or if your kid is in a play at school and makes a total balls up . you tell him/her that it was a disaster? If your kid has some dreadful disease, you make sure to tell him how bad it is and how horrible the treatment will be? And you teach your children to tell their mother whenever the food she's prepared for them really sucks? The truth can be painfully brutal as most children do understand. We all lie. Many of the lies are meant to spare people's feelings or to make them feel good about themselves. Anyone who claims he only ever speaks the truth or that he only wants to hear the truth is lying and amazingly self-unaware. Selectively telling the truth only when it suits you is not being consistently honest. Being polite, well-mannered, considerate, caring all require that we discern when to be honest and when to lie diplomatically. Succeeding in business or politics may require that we know the importance of honesty, but survival means we know when it's prudent to prevaricate. Your children will be better prepared for life if you're truthful about what it will take to succeed. Mate, sometimes I don't agree with what you post ... but full marks for that missive ... . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David48 Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Santa is not a lie, it's a legend Ditto KittyKat ... nice expression ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David48 Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 IMHO, if you are not going to be with the kids for a number of Christmases then I probably wouldn't mention Santa Claus. You can celebrate Christmas and some exchange of presents without introducing the 'Claus'. In a lot of the West, the whole gig is set up for it ... Thailand isn't. Enjoy the spirit of Christmas. Don't think that the Kids need to know where the Pressies have come from. Be their personal 'Santa' for the Day ... white beard is Optional ... . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 (edited) "I tell them what I believe the truth to be"[/size] So the truth and what you believe to be the truth are somehow the same thing?[/size] And if a small child hands you a messy crayon drawing, you tell them it looks like some unfathomable crap ? Or if your kid is in a play at school and makes a total balls up . you tell him/her that it was a disaster? If your kid has some dreadful disease, you make sure to tell him how bad it is and how horrible the treatment will be? And you teach your children to tell their mother whenever the food she's prepared for them really sucks? The truth can be painfully brutal as most children do understand.[/size] We all lie. Many of the lies are meant to spare people's feelings or to make them feel good about themselves. Anyone who claims he only ever speaks the truth or that he only wants to hear the truth is lying and amazingly self-unaware. Selectively telling the truth only when it suits you is not being consistently honest.[/size] Being polite, well-mannered, considerate, caring all require that we discern when to be honest and when to lie diplomatically. Succeeding in business or politics may require that we know the importance of honesty, but survival means we know when it's prudent to prevaricate. Your children will be better prepared for life if you're truthful about what it will take to succeed.[/size] Praising failure, and rewarding mistakes, sounds like the Thai way to me, well done. There is a difference between lying to save someone's feelings and pointless lying. Santa is a pointless lie. It achieves nothing. My children will be better prepared for life because they understand their parents don't lie to them. Your children will quickly learn their dad is a liar. Edited December 7, 2014 by BritManToo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CarlTyson Posted December 7, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2014 (edited) "I tell them what I believe the truth to be"[/size] So the truth and what you believe to be the truth are somehow the same thing?[/size] And if a small child hands you a messy crayon drawing, you tell them it looks like some unfathomable crap ? Or if your kid is in a play at school and makes a total balls up . you tell him/her that it was a disaster? If your kid has some dreadful disease, you make sure to tell him how bad it is and how horrible the treatment will be? And you teach your children to tell their mother whenever the food she's prepared for them really sucks? The truth can be painfully brutal as most children do understand.[/size] We all lie. Many of the lies are meant to spare people's feelings or to make them feel good about themselves. Anyone who claims he only ever speaks the truth or that he only wants to hear the truth is lying and amazingly self-unaware. Selectively telling the truth only when it suits you is not being consistently honest.[/size] Being polite, well-mannered, considerate, caring all require that we discern when to be honest and when to lie diplomatically. Succeeding in business or politics may require that we know the importance of honesty, but survival means we know when it's prudent to prevaricate. Your children will be better prepared for life if you're truthful about what it will take to succeed.[/size] Praising failure, and rewarding mistakes, sounds like the Thai way to me, well done. There is a difference between lying to save someone's feelings and pointless lying. Santa is a pointless lie. It achieves nothing. My children will be better prepared for life because they understand their parents don't lie to them. Your children will quickly learn their dad is a liar. My dad lied to me about Santa Clause. He bought toys, decorated the house with lights/christmas tree, bought me a Lionel Train. I figured it out when I was around 7 years old... liar!!!! Christmas morning, all those toys, all that fun. What a farce. Just a big lie. I'll never put my kids thru that! Edited December 7, 2014 by CarlTyson 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opalred Posted December 7, 2014 Author Share Posted December 7, 2014 when my kids and grandchildren were young they would ask santa for dolls or toys can you believe what the kids here have asked santa for in there letters a dog or cat how do you wrap 5dogs and 3 cats up to put under xmas tree/? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatboy Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Tell them the truth Opaired, and nothing but the truth.. Santa comes "in the middle of the night to good kids". They're kids, let them enjoy their innocence. they allready know about the farang santa that comes and leaves the ATM. card under their mums pillow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David48 Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 You bunch of miserable Gits (not you meatboy) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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