Swedes rally in support of mosques after arson attacks

[robblok]

How would you feel if you get pushed out of Thailand.. I take it Thailand is now your home ?

Can you understand that they are a bit pissed if their mosques get burned.. I am sure you would protest too if someone did stuff like that with you. You can hate Muslims all you want but this was a crime committed against them and they have every right to protest about that.

How much has Thai society been forced to change its culture and its religious practices because Westerners have moved here? Do we set up zones of influence and demand to be treated by a separate code of Christian Law (granted for the British, the comparison is a problem)? Do we attack, utter insults, and chase down Thais because they behave in a manner consistent with their own civilization? If there are Western practices being adopted in Thailand, it's because the Thais want them. I don't know of too many non-Muslim parts of the world that want to adopt Muslim practices.

Fair point.. but you must have seen Pattaya ?

Most muslims are ok no problems whatsoever but some idiots that make a lot of noise and try to change things. Same here with farangs most are ok but there are some nutcases that are a problem.

And for looking down on Thais.. one should only read all the Thaibashing on this forum.

We are just as bad as normal muslims (not bad at all), and those idiot extreme foreigners are as bad as the extreme muslims.

In my time working with Muslims in the Netherlands is that most of them just want a place to live and make money. Then you got some idiots that try to change things and are radical. Its the same everywhere there always bad elements.

I am pretty sure you don't consider farang criminals as the norm, but the Thais do identify them with us too. Just like we identify all Muslims with a few bad ones. Does not sound fair does it ?

I, too, have criticized much of the knee-jerk unthinking criticism of Thailand that appears on TVF. But the often time crude remarks we see here are as nothing when compared to taking over parts of a city and instituting your own laws on a de facto basis. In your own Netherlands it is unsafe to criticize Muslims--you can be killed for it. I don't know anywhere in Thailand that Thais are unsafe because of rampaging farangs. There is of course one place in Thailand where bombings, murder, and assassination are a common occurrence. But that is in Thailand's far south and the element doing the terrorism is a Muslim one.

How is it unsafe to criticize Muslims in the Netherlands ? I know of only 1 guy who died because of it and they got the person who did it. It happened before I even left for Thailand (if i still remember correctly) That is not too bad that is 1 incident in more then 10 years.

Your remark about Muslims doing the bombing in Thailand and killing.. you are right.. but you forget one important thing. They kill other Muslims there too. So how do you explain that if its all aimed at Buddists or if all Muslims are bad.. why then do these Muslims get killed by other Muslims.

[Steely Dan]

No, this was a Muslim rally, just look the pictures.

My question is only:

HOW MANY church are there in Muslim countries?

Uuppsss ....

They are the most most pushy and violent people.

Why don't they go home simply instead of any rally ???

How would you feel if you get pushed out of Thailand.. I take it Thailand is now your home ?

Can you understand that they are a bit pissed if their mosques get burned.. I am sure you would protest too if someone did stuff like that with you. You can hate Muslims all you want but this was a crime committed against them and they have every right to protest about that.

Aside from the number of supposed attacks on Mosques which turn out to be anything but there is the issue of Muslims in Europe attacking the religious buildings of other faiths, such as the shots fired recently at a Paris Synagogue or Muslims bursting into a Christmas church service in Germany shouting insults at the congregation. The press seems strangely silent when Muslims are the aggressors though.

[Steely Dan]

How would you feel if you get pushed out of Thailand.. I take it Thailand is now your home ?



Can you understand that they are a bit pissed if their mosques get burned.. I am sure you would protest too if someone did stuff like that with you. You can hate Muslims all you want but this was a crime committed against them and they have every right to protest about that.

How much has Thai society been forced to change its culture and its religious practices because Westerners have moved here? Do we set up zones of influence and demand to be treated by a separate code of Christian Law (granted for the British, the comparison is a problem)? Do we attack, utter insults, and chase down Thais because they behave in a manner consistent with their own civilization? If there are Western practices being adopted in Thailand, it's because the Thais want them. I don't know of too many non-Muslim parts of the world that want to adopt Muslim practices.

Fair point.. but you must have seen Pattaya ?

Most muslims are ok no problems whatsoever but some idiots that make a lot of noise and try to change things. Same here with farangs most are ok but there are some nutcases that are a problem.

And for looking down on Thais.. one should only read all the Thaibashing on this forum.

We are just as bad as normal muslims (not bad at all), and those idiot extreme foreigners are as bad as the extreme muslims.

In my time working with Muslims in the Netherlands is that most of them just want a place to live and make money. Then you got some idiots that try to change things and are radical. Its the same everywhere there always bad elements.

I am pretty sure you don't consider farang criminals as the norm, but the Thais do identify them with us too. Just like we identify all Muslims with a few bad ones. Does not sound fair does it ?

I, too, have criticized much of the knee-jerk unthinking criticism of Thailand that appears on TVF. But the often time crude remarks we see here are as nothing when compared to taking over parts of a city and instituting your own laws on a de facto basis. In your own Netherlands it is unsafe to criticize Muslims--you can be killed for it. I don't know anywhere in Thailand that Thais are unsafe because of rampaging farangs. There is of course one place in Thailand where bombings, murder, and assassination are a common occurrence. But that is in Thailand's far south and the element doing the terrorism is a Muslim one.

How is it unsafe to criticize Muslims in the Netherlands ? I know of only 1 guy who died because of it and they got the person who did it. It happened before I even left for Thailand (if i still remember correctly) That is not too bad that is 1 incident in more then 10 years.

Your remark about Muslims doing the bombing in Thailand and killing.. you are right.. but you forget one important thing. They kill other Muslims there too. So how do you explain that if its all aimed at Buddists or if all Muslims are bad.. why then do these Muslims get killed by other Muslims.

Point of fact Ayaan Hirsi-Ali left the Netherlands because the police could not guarantee her safety. Indeed it is not just the Netherlands but the whole of Europe where criticism of Islam risks your safety, a Danish cartoonist springs to mind but there are many more.

[Jingthing]

While it is no doubt true that religions other than Islam are not tolerated well in a number of Islamic dominated nations, it doesn't follow that in liberal western democracies that justifies irrational intolerance to any religious group, Islam, Judaism, or whatever. Hopefully, western democracies are BETTER than that! If there are criminal individuals of any background in any country, go after them as individuals, but wholesale attacks on mosques deserve condemnation.

Edited January 3, 2015 by Jingthing

[robblok]

How would you feel if you get pushed out of Thailand.. I take it Thailand is now your home ?

Can you understand that they are a bit pissed if their mosques get burned.. I am sure you would protest too if someone did stuff like that with you. You can hate Muslims all you want but this was a crime committed against them and they have every right to protest about that.

How much has Thai society been forced to change its culture and its religious practices because Westerners have moved here? Do we set up zones of influence and demand to be treated by a separate code of Christian Law (granted for the British, the comparison is a problem)? Do we attack, utter insults, and chase down Thais because they behave in a manner consistent with their own civilization? If there are Western practices being adopted in Thailand, it's because the Thais want them. I don't know of too many non-Muslim parts of the world that want to adopt Muslim practices.

Fair point.. but you must have seen Pattaya ?

Most muslims are ok no problems whatsoever but some idiots that make a lot of noise and try to change things. Same here with farangs most are ok but there are some nutcases that are a problem.

And for looking down on Thais.. one should only read all the Thaibashing on this forum.

We are just as bad as normal muslims (not bad at all), and those idiot extreme foreigners are as bad as the extreme muslims.

In my time working with Muslims in the Netherlands is that most of them just want a place to live and make money. Then you got some idiots that try to change things and are radical. Its the same everywhere there always bad elements.

I am pretty sure you don't consider farang criminals as the norm, but the Thais do identify them with us too. Just like we identify all Muslims with a few bad ones. Does not sound fair does it ?

I, too, have criticized much of the knee-jerk unthinking criticism of Thailand that appears on TVF. But the often time crude remarks we see here are as nothing when compared to taking over parts of a city and instituting your own laws on a de facto basis. In your own Netherlands it is unsafe to criticize Muslims--you can be killed for it. I don't know anywhere in Thailand that Thais are unsafe because of rampaging farangs. There is of course one place in Thailand where bombings, murder, and assassination are a common occurrence. But that is in Thailand's far south and the element doing the terrorism is a Muslim one.

How is it unsafe to criticize Muslims in the Netherlands ? I know of only 1 guy who died because of it and they got the person who did it. It happened before I even left for Thailand (if i still remember correctly) That is not too bad that is 1 incident in more then 10 years.

Your remark about Muslims doing the bombing in Thailand and killing.. you are right.. but you forget one important thing. They kill other Muslims there too. So how do you explain that if its all aimed at Buddists or if all Muslims are bad.. why then do these Muslims get killed by other Muslims.

Point of fact Ayaan Hirsi-Ali left the Netherlands because the police could not guarantee her safety. Indeed it is not just the Netherlands but the whole of Europe where criticism of Islam risks your safety, a Danish cartoonist springs to mind but there are many more.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/31/george-tiller-killed-abor_n_209504.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence

Now i can say that all Christians are violent and should protest against this to prove otherwise.

That is kinda what you guys are asking from Muslims

[mania]

That is kinda what you guys are asking from Muslims

Robblok you will more easily pass a camel thru the eye of a sewing needle than

convince/change those that would pigeonhole any group/religion/race as all being the same.

There is not the slightest crack in a bigoted person to let any light at all into their fixed opinion

Good of you to try though

Edited January 3, 2015 by mania

[robblok]

That is kinda what you guys are asking from Muslims

Robblok you will more easily pass a camel thru the eye of a sewing needle than

convince those that would pigeonhole any group/religion/race as all being the same.

There is not the slightest crack in a bigoted person to let any light at all into their fixed opinion

Good of you to try though

I should have known better, but in the past I was quite anti Muslim / immigrants. That was until I lived here a while and understood they faced the same stuff we face. I also understand that the majority just like the majority of foreigners here are good people who just want to be left alone.

I feel absolutely no responsibility for the actions of others and fail to see why others should feel that way.

I am not saying that there is not a problem with Muslims, there is of course.. however many immigrants hate the extremists too. Plus most violence from Muslim terrorists is aimed at other Muslims.

[mania]

I should have known better,

I often get caught up in it myself

But like you I tend to see all groups have their bad & their good.

Funny too many times it is the governments/militants that the whole group is likened too.

Yet those in power/those positions represent but a fraction of the whole.

[ABCer]

So technically they weren't swedes, just immigrants calling themselves swedes.

Well, "technically" they *are* Swede. You may be among those who wish nationality were based on race. But in fact, it isn't. So, both technically, and actually (not to mention linguistically), you are incorrect.

T

Thakkar, - you may win a race in Le Man or at Dakar, but you are still a Toyota.

Technically you may be a Swede, your passport may say so and nobody cares about your race, as long as you act and behave like Swede.

BUT!

- if you are short and dark and stick your behind up and have 10 children and are on welfare and get an uncontrolled erection seeing a blond hair strand and create a no-go zones in Sweden for other Swedes and are trying to convert Sweden from a country with almost zero crime rate into a European capital of rape and if instead of "tingle bells" you sing "Allah Ackbar" and etc. etc. etc. -

THEN

you should not be surprised that one day you are technically, actually, linguistically, legally, politically, ethnically, religiously, unfairly etc. asked a simple question:

- what was your nationality before Swedish?

- where the < edit> did you come from?

- do you want to go back? with all your relatives!

- and the answer 'NO' is not an option.

Edited January 3, 2015 by ABCer

[Thakkar]

So technically they weren't swedes, just immigrants calling themselves swedes.

Well, "technically" they *are* Swede. You may be among those who wish nationality were based on race. But in fact, it isn't. So, both technically, and actually (not to mention linguistically), you are incorrect.

T

Sorry to say, you are way off, by citizenship they might be Swedish, but most of the immigrants will never be Swedish, that is NOT based on citizenship, something that's very easy to hand out.

I myself aren't much of a racist, I wouldn't have married a Thai woman if I was, but WE DO have a huge problem with especially muslims in my native country, Sweden.

Being a Swede means so much more than color of you skin, religious beliefs or ethnicity, it's more a state of mind, openness, acceptance of others, care for others.

But that is all gone now, thanks to all the good doers in Sweden who without discrimination let anyone in to our country. I could elaborate more about this but won't just now.

If we (our politicians "good doers") would have made sure we integrated these people in to our culture and society, most of todays problems wouldn't have been problems but with ALL good doers, they DO A LOT, but they DON'T follow up on their actions. These people are the ones I hate with all my heart and soul.

Being Swedish, or Brit, or Chinese is not a static thing. After years of trying, the Brits are still nowhere near to meaningfully defining what it means to be British.

The fact that policies have been implemented over a fair period of time that have facilitated immigration, and that such policies aren't created in a vacuum, means that acceptance of different peoples to become Swedish is part of what it means to be Swedish.

I agree that immigrants everywhere need to do more to try and integrate without necessarily utterly discarding their previous cultures, but somehow subsuming one into the other. This often occurs to varying degrees, depending on individuals and their various circumstances. We have to recognize though that this isn't an easy task, particularly for first generation immigrants. Better communications, easier and cheaper travel and pervasive world trade have paradoxically made it easier for immigrants to remain insular longer as "home" is just a Skype call away and regular home comforts like spices are easily available at the local supermarket or corner store.

It's easy to say that such people should have anticipated the difficulties and either prepared themselves better or not come at all. However, people immigrate for many reasons. Often, the decision is forced on them, as with refugees. Some have muddled reasons, are over optimistic or succumb to wishful thinking about their prospects.

This brings me to my second agreement with you. Receiving governments and their embassies in origin countries need to do more to help prepare, and once landed, help immigrants integrate better.

Apart from humanitarian reasons, which is a commendable part of what it is to be Swedish, there are also good, practical reasons for Sweden and others to accept immigrants. Immigrants (as a whole) bring new ideas, new vibrancy, good work ethics and help reverse the trend of declining populations.

Those who are concerned about immigration but aren't racist, would do better to direct their energies towards pressuring their governments to help more with integration and getting directly involved in being more welcoming to immigrants and to help them integrate.

All this "get off my lawn" wailing is doing nobody any good.

T

[hugh2121]

Quote:

Not all muslims are terrorists. However, all terrorists are muslims.

It may not be 100% accurate but it ain't far short.

Edited January 3, 2015 by hugh2121

[ABCer]

Quote:

Not all muslims are terrorists. However, all terrorists are muslims.

It may not be 100% accurate but it ain't far short.

hugh2121, you are almost right, but

I'm an old man and I've seen many different groups of terrorists come and go. They were of different faith.

What you should keep in mind is this:

No other group of terrorists were compelled and openly coerced into terrorism by their Religion except Muslims!

Absolutely and categorically! Anybody who want to dispute this - go and read Koran!

[JDGRUEN]

@ robblok - Post # 32

"Your remark about Muslims doing the bombing in Thailand and killing.. you are right.. but you forget one important thing. They kill other Muslims there too. So how do you explain that if its all aimed at Buddists or if all Muslims are bad.. why then do these Muslims get killed by other Muslims."

WHY? "why then do these Muslims get killed by other Muslims".

In far south Thailand, when Muslims kill other Muslims - the vast majority of Muslims killed by other Muslims in acts of violence are killed as accidental collateral damage while trying to kill Thai Buddhists or are killed in retaliation for collaboration with the Thai Government / School System, etc. and therefore are insulting Islam thus considered traitors ... or just because they refuse to also enter into acts of violence against Buddhists.

[zydeco]

@ rob

Realize that this isn't even an Arab issue. Arab Christians in Egypt, the West Bank, Lebanon, Syria, and Iraq are being exterminated even as I write. You also mention your good standing with Turks back in the Netherlands. Turkey is a prime example that you never know what goes own beneath the surface. For almost 100 years, Turkey passed itself off as a secular state, worthy of admission to the EU in latter years. Yet we now see a full fledged Islamic despot in charge, one who becomes more and more extreme with each passing year.

--better stop. This is going way off topic. And I don't mean to do that. This is about what essentially was a fake rally of a few hundred Muslims coordinating their efforts with Muslims throughout Europe (the Netherlands, for example) to complain about attacks on mosques. Might be nice if Muslims were equally concerned with the destruction of churches in Egypt and Syria. Maybe start by returning Hagia Sophia to its rightful owners in Constantinople.

[zydeco]

That is kinda what you guys are asking from Muslims

Robblok you will more easily pass a camel thru the eye of a sewing needle than

convince those that would pigeonhole any group/religion/race as all being the same.

There is not the slightest crack in a bigoted person to let any light at all into their fixed opinion

Good of you to try though

I should have known better, but in the past I was quite anti Muslim / immigrants. That was until I lived here a while and understood they faced the same stuff we face. I also understand that the majority just like the majority of foreigners here are good people who just want to be left alone.

I feel absolutely no responsibility for the actions of others and fail to see why others should feel that way.

I am not saying that there is not a problem with Muslims, there is of course.. however many immigrants hate the extremists too. Plus most violence from Muslim terrorists is aimed at other Muslims.

Really? This is quite sanctimonious and self righteous of you. The fact is immigration in any country is a matter for citizens of that country to determine for their benefit. Please tell me of one nation in the world that is better off because it brought in Muslim immigrants. For all the disparaging and drunken remarks some farangs sometimes make about Thailand, most Thais seem to regard the presence of Westerners throughout the centuries as a positive experience. I can say the same thing, for the most part, about Chinese, Japanese, and Vietnamese coming to the US. The benefits usually outweighs the negatives. Where has that happened with Muslim immigrants?

[AyG]

@ robblok - [/size]

Post # 32

"Your remark about Muslims doing the bombing in Thailand and killing.. you are right.. but you forget one important thing. They kill other Muslims there too. So how do you explain that if its all aimed at Buddists or if all Muslims are bad.. why then do these Muslims get killed by other Muslims."

WHY? "why then do these Muslims get killed by other Muslims".

In far south Thailand, when Muslims kill other Muslims - the vast majority of Muslims killed by other Muslims in acts of violence are killed as accidental collateral damage while trying to kill Thai Buddhists or are killed in retaliation for collaboration with the Thai Government / School System, etc. and therefore are insulting Islam thus considered traitors ... or just because they refuse to also enter into acts of violence against Buddhists.

The characterisation of the conflict in southern Thailand as being a religious one is way off the mark. The slaughter of both Buddhists and Moslems is terrorism at its most basic: acts to create fear in the hearts of the population. Most certainly the deaths of Moslems are not "accidental collateral damage". Slitting the throat of Moslem rubber tappers in the field is in no way an accident.

More accurate to label the conflict as (1) separatist, and (2) a cover for illegal activities such as smuggling and extortion. With the multitude of groups involved, some are more into one than the other. I rather doubt any of them is acting purely from a religious motivation.

Edited January 3, 2015 by AyG

[HughJass]

Sweden is heading to be 40% muslim by 2030 so u can understand why the indigenous population are getting fed up with the liberal immigration policies that the NWO controlled govt is pursuing...northern europe is going to have big trouble soon

[Steely Dan]

Is it not ironic that we are discussing Muslim victim hood in Sweden when recently the police in Malmö had to close off some roads to prevent attacks on police stations by Muslims. Still I'm sure the politically correct Swedish police will investigate the Islamophobic attacks whilst aiding and abetting their leaders in their policy of national suicide.

http://10news.dk/malmo-sweden-after-36-bombs-in-2014-and-several-attacks-on-police-stations-streets-are-cordoned-off-to-protect-police-station-against-bombings/

[Scott]

There a quite a few off-topic posts. Please try to stick to the topic and if you are going to discuss other countries do so with an eye towards a comparison to the situation in Sweden.

[jacky54]

At least there will be no retaliation in Saudi Arabia, no Churches will be attacked in revenge- they are not allowed!

[jacky54]

Is it not ironic that we are discussing Muslim victim hood in Sweden when recently the police in Malmö had to close off some roads to prevent attacks on police stations by Muslims. Still I'm sure the politically correct Swedish police will investigate the Islamophobic attacks whilst aiding and abetting their leaders in their policy of national suicide.

http://10news.dk/malmo-sweden-after-36-bombs-in-2014-and-several-attacks-on-police-stations-streets-are-cordoned-off-to-protect-police-station-against-bombings/

About 25% of Malmo is now Muslim, this is the sort of action that takes place when their numbers increase, parts of Malmo are no go areas and an Islamic law unto themselves.

[connda]

Can't wait until Sharia Law has been imposed nationwide in Sweden. I'm sure news will be spun completely different when it's cathedrals that are burning and Christians being killed and injuries. Sort of like Syria right now. So there's your 'crystal ball'. Have a good gaze at the future.

[JockPieandBeans]

Your remark about Muslims doing the bombing in Thailand and killing.. you are right.. but you forget one important thing. They kill other Muslims there too. So how do you explain that if its all aimed at Buddists or if all Muslims are bad.. why then do these Muslims get killed by other Muslims.

Some people are so driven that they do not care if they inflict casualties that are collateral damage.

Sunni and Shia Muslims have been killing each other for over a 1000 years, it is not a new phenomena.

Sweden, along with various other EU Countries have a major problem. That problem is being suppressed. I would take a guess that the thought of admitting to it, does not bear thinking about.

[JDGRUEN]

@ robblok - [/size]

Post # 32

"Your remark about Muslims doing the bombing in Thailand and killing.. you are right.. but you forget one important thing. They kill other Muslims there too. So how do you explain that if its all aimed at Buddists or if all Muslims are bad.. why then do these Muslims get killed by other Muslims."

WHY? "why then do these Muslims get killed by other Muslims".

In far south Thailand, when Muslims kill other Muslims - the vast majority of Muslims killed by other Muslims in acts of violence are killed as accidental collateral damage while trying to kill Thai Buddhists or are killed in retaliation for collaboration with the Thai Government / School System, etc. and therefore are insulting Islam thus considered traitors ... or just because they refuse to also enter into acts of violence against Buddhists.

The characterisation of the conflict in southern Thailand as being a religious one is way off the mark. The slaughter of both Buddhists and Moslems is terrorism at its most basic: acts to create fear in the hearts of the population. Most certainly the deaths of Moslems are not "accidental collateral damage". Slitting the throat of Moslem rubber tappers in the field is in no way an accident.

More accurate to label the conflict as (1) separatist, and (2) a cover for illegal activities such as smuggling and extortion. With the multitude of groups involved, some are more into one than the other. I rather doubt any of them is acting purely from a religious motivation.

I have read quite a bit about the history of the far south conflict and I disagree with your assessment.

The nature of the problem in the far South is far from just a separatist situation. It is deeply rooted in the ideology - actually embedded in the nature of Islam - that they are destined to be the dominate and only 'religion' and they wish to cast out any non believers from THEIR area. This is no different than any action they take around the world - except it has just been in slow motion in south Thailand. There has been a long history in far south of Thailand with the Muslims pushing and the Buddhist resisting... Separatism based on the teachings of Islam -- move the Infidels out - take control of the land totally.

But elsewhere - where they have not been endemic for so long - the pace is quicker. Relatively new Muslim 'immigrants' in the U.K, or Germany or Sweden, increase their numbers quickly, insist on special privilege, create enclaves - nudging then shoving the Infidels out... scream and demand tolerance - all the while showing none for others. Soon the Muslims proclaim Sharia law and are often violent in their pursuit and begin attacking Christians.

One difference however in Asia there is no hindrance of 'white Christian falsely applied guilt' holding them back. So the Asians in parts of Myanmar, Indonesia and far south Thailand - the Buddhist Fight Back from the beginning and establish their rights and defend themselves. The Buddhist fight back with bloody counter-attacks as they are not foolishly intimidated.

This is the reason that the so called 'separatist' movement in far south Thailand has taken hundreds of years -- The neighbors are not Europeans or Americans who cannot figure out that they have to Fight Back from the beginning - or they will be subjugated.

And just to add a note: I have seen reports on Thai TV news and read on line of the killings in the far south of Thailand over the months just this year... And it was definitely stated that in one instance a Muslim teacher was killed because he kept teaching in the Government School when told not to. And the same kind of reports told of Muslim bystanders killed by Muslim terrorist - even though they were not the targets. And reports of Muslims being found dead and the family explaining that he refused to fight and kill others.

[Bakeman]

To each their own until they invade my space and my beliefs.

[Mosha]

"Muslim community leaders addressed the gathering preaching tolerance." Meanwhile, their friends around the world behead infidels and stone women to death.

Really? All friends are they? Infidels getting beheaded in all countries around the world where there are muslims ? And women get stoned to death in all countries where there are muslims? You must in the lead for the prize for making the dumbest comment yet. Why don't you be honest and just write "I hate muslims and I am quite happy to write complete, misleading crap, and that feeds the current "Let's not let the truth get in the way, let's all just hate muslims!"

Hey, NickNick! Why don't you just nick off.

Please, let me be honest!

It is not true that Muslims behead people!

It is not true that Muslims engage in terror acts blessed by their God!

It is not true that Muslims can not engage in reasonable debates about Mohammed and Koran!

It is not true that Muslims stone Women!

It is not true that Muslims rape non-Muslim women as soon as they see their hair or legs or faces!

It is not true that Muslims use non-Muslim women and children as slaves and sex slaves!

It is not true that Muslims in many countries only observe Shariat Laws and want everybody else do the same!

All the above is only true for Bad Muslims. Good Muslims never do this.

Now, to quote you, - "let's not let the truth get in the way" - give us all the definition of a Good Muslim!

Oh heck thanks! I haven't such a laugh in a long while!!

Did you really write "...It is not true that Muslims rape non-Muslim women as soon as they see their hair or legs or faces!"??

Priceless!

You must an American!

Or from Rotherham.

[Steely Dan]

To each their own until they invade my space and my beliefs.

You would have hoped that would have applied to the Swedes, but instead they are as passive as the Eloi to their Morlock oppressors.

And as for whoever downplayed the rape epidemic Sweden suffers, the odds of a Swedish woman being raped during her lifetime is one in four, would you fancy those odds for your family?

Edited January 4, 2015 by Steely Dan

[jacky54]

There is no religion in the world excepts killing if you don't belong to their religion.

Wrong, Islam does, read the Koran

[Scott]

Off-topic posts removed.

Please note that this topic is not about Southern Thailand. It's about Sweden.

[robblok]

@ robblok - Post # 32

"Your remark about Muslims doing the bombing in Thailand and killing.. you are right.. but you forget one important thing. They kill other Muslims there too. So how do you explain that if its all aimed at Buddists or if all Muslims are bad.. why then do these Muslims get killed by other Muslims."

WHY? "why then do these Muslims get killed by other Muslims".

In far south Thailand, when Muslims kill other Muslims - the vast majority of Muslims killed by other Muslims in acts of violence are killed as accidental collateral damage while trying to kill Thai Buddhists or are killed in retaliation for collaboration with the Thai Government / School System, etc. and therefore are insulting Islam thus considered traitors ... or just because they refuse to also enter into acts of violence against Buddhists.

Yes they get killed because they are peaceful and don't want to kill others, or they have helped the government.

So if there are Muslims who do that, then for sure not ALL Muslims are bad and terrorist like so many farangs here are posting.

It totally proves my point and that is why i made that point.

So thanks for explaining what others might not have understood.